Adjovi:


What's Ewe? And what money are you talking about I'm confused sir.

The name is from my tribe....we are the Ewe tribe, found in ghana, togo and benin. Im ghanaian by the way.

You are right on the money means you are correct and I agree with you.

Adjovi:



The reason while I feel I need to rule is because I can't stand seeing people suffer. I read politics in school and I was the Union leader for my set. Now is not the time to pray for Nigeria to be better but to rather work towards making it better. Yes as Christians our kingdom is not of this world, but we are in the world and must live in it. There's a charge for us already. " When the wicked rule the people suffer, but when the just rule, the people rejoice" it's time for the just to go into politics so that the people can rejoice.

I really like you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ made it clear to you from the beginning that His Kingdom is not of this world and His followers are also not of this world, even though they too live in this world.

Maybe a better question to ask yourself is why you feel you need to rule in this world? Do you not Trust God enough to take care of you while you are in this world even as He tool care of Jesus Christ.

Because we are in the world. If we dont rule the world well only anarchy will ensue. I dont think Jesus wants to see women raped and kids beheaded because everyone wants to do what they want.

A bad ruler is better than no ruler....and we both know how bad a bad ruler is... Think about it again.

Adjovi:


This verse you are quoting does not in any way show Jesus being against Christians holding leadership positions. Rather it's saying whomsoever have been made a leader should rather humble himself and serve the people.

This monicker is an Ewe name. Are you an Ewe? Also, ypu are right on the money.

Zoe99:
Bros,this lady just loves to argue.She won't reason with you.

I pray she understands me though...i hoping for the best

Kobojunkie:
Be honest with yourself... forget fantasy! Have you ever met such a leader in your own life - a leader that is instead a servant? Even among the Jews(exclude Jesus) there was none of that.

Martin luther king jnr.

Ghandi

Im sure the list goes on and on. To be a slave doesnt mean to postrate your self to your people or be completely at their mercy....it means putting their well being first and doing every for that very objective....even if it means being a bit harsh on them. Sometimes tough love is good. We just need to know the lines we cannot cross. That's all.

So with that, i have seen multiple.

Moses is one jew that fits the description..

John the baptist.
Jesus.

Just because you are tough doesnt mean you are a bad leader....but there is a threshold you cannot cross

Kobojunkie:
Oh, I see you are chuck full of the deceit that is false teachers and prophets there. In the Kingdom of God, those who are extraordinary are instead those who serves as slaves to the rest.
Jesus Christ told you this in the same context, but since you skipped the first memo, why not skip them all, right?

See, Jesus Christ even tells you that to be first, you have to be a slave/servant to everyone else, just like He was.

So it means as a politician, instead of thinking yourself like a god, you have to humble yourself and serve your fellow mankind. So Jesus didnt preach against leadership, he preached against poor leadership. Am i right in my interpretation?

egopersonified:
Starting to think ladies are lesbians because they wouldn't find a guy who makes them cum.

Stop thinking...go out and research. Talk to people that might help you understand, eg actual gay people. Don't sit somewhere and assume and arrogantly run with it.

ABCthings:
Get a new bible.

learn sarcasm

ABCthings:
did Jesus marry a sinner?

No he married a believer.

Jujitsu:
A goat being worshipped in a church



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IclF_hAjBOs

Lol how is this end times? These have been done even before the time of Jesus. There is no end time anywhere. You guys are too reactionary.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are lost. Did you miss the sign on the door on your way in here? It says "Religion"... back to what I was saying before the distraction.

you are not crazy at all. I see God as I used to see myself a programmer, creating worlds snd universes, over which I have absolute control

Evidence of my work as a creator my creation itself

So you wont answer me now. And i see you just changed your wording to suit your new narrative. Evidence of your work as a creator is your work(it is in fact a valid premise, but may or may not be enough depending on who you are trying to convince). Evidence of your ability as a creator is not your work, but you ability itself. Your work cannot suffice as valid proof in any situation because we have to establish that indeed you have the ability to create. Unless to a person who isn't interested in what a valid proof is. Take it or leave it....sir. Respectfully.

Kobojunkie:
By that everyone can be supposed to be a creator then, not just God.

Be sure that the evidence of a creator is in fact his creation, not his claim of being a creator, a claim which unsubstantiated, means nothing as far as evidence is concerned.

[b]If you tell me you created an app and upon searching I find that you never did create an app, are you still a creator or just one whose claim to be an app creator remains unsubstantiated?

I can not search your mind for to certify that you indeed have the ability to create. I can however judge your creation as evidence of the ability to create.[\b]

In much the same way, God calls on us to judge His ability as a creator by observing His wondrous creations.

Guy you are running around in circles....

The bolded part shows you don't know what constitutes evidence.
1. How do you find out that God(Yahweh) did or did not create the universe?

2. Why would you need to search the mind to find out one can create? If i say i have driven a big truck, my statement would be falsified if i could not even drive Toyota viz. Even though my ability to drive isn't enough to make my claim completely true, its a great premise to help reach a logical conclusion.

3. In order to establish that God is the one who created everything, we need to establish two evidence.

a. That we have met God before, as in, he Exists.
He could reveal himself by talking to us
without physically revealing himself.

b. That we can witness God creating anything at
all.


Until these two conditions are met, we cannot verify that indeed Yahweh created the heavens and earth (not the universe, that was never stated).

If pastor tells me he has created a phone through spiritual means, you can be sure I'm going to doubt the story till proven true.
However if a tech company says they have created a phone, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt till proven otherwise.

Can you tell me why I am biased against and towards the two entities when it comes to the same issue, respectively?

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! A programmer in this context creates universes...not one with just the know-how.

Evidence of a creator is not his creation, but his ability to create. How would one know that that is his or her (creator's) creation?

If i tell you i created an app, would you accept that fact because the app i claim to have created exists? Its not enough evidence, obviously you would need more.

Richnerd69:



Just so you know... plus I studied physics..

He asked for 5 scientists that made the claim. You posted a non accredited website claiming scientists have said so. Its the same thing as you claiming scientists have made that claim

Kobojunkie:
you are not crazy at all. I see God as I used to see myself a programmer, creating worlds snd universes, over which i have absolute control

Evidence of my work being my creation itself

Evidence of you being a programmer is not your finished work. Its your ability to code.

matrixme:
I'm not surprised at anything that comes from Nigerian Pastorpreneurs again. Jesus earlier warned that we would see such in the last days.
I believe that part that said that what good you do should be in secret has torn from his Bible. How many times did he use the word "I"?
So we should not talk about the fact that you bought a private jet inside Covid-19 pandemic when people lost their lives, business and wallowed deeply in debt?
In a country where millions live on less than 1dollar a day, that you build a few police station, paid some school fees and supply some boxes of indomie to the less privileged and still manage to keep 3 private jets, then you should search your conscience. You probably are not doing enough.
We all know how sad the man Jesus instructed to go and sell all his properties and use the proceeds to feed the poor felt. The strong, bearing the burden of the weak is an everyday Biblical principle.
Didn't Jesus say even we humans are going to one day judge the angels? So who are you before God that is beyond scrutiny?
I guess all they want is people that will keep saying"Yes my master" to everything they do and say.

Bro...Get out of here with your Truth. Too much sense in this post....you are in the wrong section charley.

/s

sapphiere:
Hasnt your Bible tells you not to disrespect men of God?

I dont think the bible tells us to respect opportunists in the name "Men of God". What does it even take to be called a man of God these days? These people are not beyond correction my dear. Let's correct them when we need to.

Who here will continue to give to a brother who uses the money to drink alcohol or take drugs or pay prostitutes instead of feeding him or herself? Will any of you judgemental theists continue to give because the bible says to give. Will you make the excuse that God says you should continue to give and leave the drunk, druggie etc to hurt themselves? Or will you be a responsible person and not reinforce the bad behaviour? Im sure most will choose the latter. Im sure just like that our Father in heaven would like us to speak up in church when things go on instead of shutting up about it and waiting on him to fix things. Let's speak up and stop reinforcing bad behaviour. That is another way to show love.

arthurndur:
There is something both the aged and the infant do not know anything about.

The church also has closed her eyes on this particular issue. Nobody wants to talk about it but it is very real.

In case you are not aware my brethren, I want to tell you that: SEXUAL IMMORALITY is the last bullet the kingdom of darkness has thrown against the church of God, and the church is wounded very sore that there seems to be no cure or remedy.

I want to make it so clear and not in jargons or vocabularies that, you cannot count the number of people who go to church and proclaim the name of God, that are still living in immorality. They may either be suffering from lust, masturbation, pornography, adultery, incest, homosexual, lesbianism, sodomy, bestiality and many more which time will fail me to mention.

Hardly will you come across a young lady who has not been misused by 'so called boyfriends'. And every guy is now dating because of sex.

God is watching all those that are having sex with people they haven't married.

It's a headache for God seeing his own created people perishing in a sin called sexual immorality. How many young men today in the church can you count and point fingers at that fornication has not pulled down?

A pastor slept with his junior pastor's wife, impregnated her, and used the name of God to defend himself that it was God who instructed him to do so.

Sex that is supposed to be between husband and wife only, is now between father and daughter in the church, do I need to tell you there is fire on the mountain?

If sex that is only legalized between a man and his wife, is now between a guy and his girlfriend or between a man and his fiancee, do you need angels to come and sound the warning against sexual immorality?

If sex that is a sacred thing in marriage has become a desecrated thing in dating, what else do you want before you prepare the way of the Lord?

PASTOR, WHY ARE YOU QUIET?

Cry aloud, spare not. And tell the house of Jacob their sins, and Israel their transgressions. Pastor why are you not crying aloud? Why are you so mute like ELI? Heaven is shedding tears over the perishing souls every day and you are there raising funds every Sunday to build bigger Auditorium.

You call your members for anointing services and prayer meetings without urging sin out of them.

Some are living together with men that did not pay any dowry on them.

Some commit abortion and cover it up. Some are lesbians and homosexuals. What are you doing about that?

Where has the word of God that says "flee fornication" gone to in your Bible? From henceforth, if you don't take this warning and start declaring war against this strange spirit that has taken over the church, you'll have questions to answer.

And those who claim they love holiness messages with negligence to this particular truth about sex have actually missed the mark.

AND YOU CHURCH MEMBERS!

To be active in church and still be committing immorality, God is watching you.

To be a child of God and still having a boyfriend or girlfriend, God is watching you.

To be a choir member or youth leader and still be doing what the married are doing, if you like continue.

All you need is genuine repentance.

CHRIST'S COMING IS VERY IMMINENT!

YOUR GROUP MEMBERS NEED THIS MESSAGE. YOUR FRIENDS AND ENEMIES ALSO NEED IT. KEEP SHARING UNTIL IT SAVES A SOUL/SOULS FROM THE BONDAGE AND DANGER OF HELL FIRE.

There would come a time when mankind would love five things and forget five things.

1. They will love the enjoyment of this world and forget the day of judgement.

2. They will love money and forget the day of accountability of how they acquired and spend the money.

3. They will fear things that are created and forget the creator.

4. They will love beautiful mansions and forget their grave.

5. They will love sins and forget to seek for God's forgiveness.

Come to think of these?.......

1. Eternal life = free

2. Church entrance = free

3. Christ's salvation = free

4. God's love = free

5. Breath of life = free

A. Cigarette = pay

B. Prostitution = pay

C. Alcohol =pay

D. Nightclub entrance fee= pay

E. Powers to rule the world = pay

Then why are people paying for hell while PARADISE is free?

Think twice

Believe in Christ and you shall be saved..

We always think of

Valentine's day

Birth day

Father's day

Mother's day

Children's day

Farmer's day

Teacher's day

Christmas day

Independence day

Boxing day,

This day,

That day,

Day in Day out.

Have you ever thought of JUDGEMENT DAY, is it going to be a day of celebration or condemnation for you ?

Think about it!
God bless you.

Bro why are you saying sex is only legalised between a man and his wife? That's not true.

But let me ask a question that has been bothering me for long.

For starters, what is sin? Is it simply anything that supposedly makes God unhappy? Or does it have to meet a certain criteria to be classified as one?

The culture of religion has been often misinterpreted as the divine instructions itself. Many christians have proclaimed they have formed a personal relationship with God and Jesus but seems to me they have formed a personal relationship with the bible, which they pick and choose, conveniently.

I have come to believe that if a man loves his girlfriend or lover but can't marry her yet, that doesn't stop them from making love from time to time when they feel like it. Making love is a physical way of showing how you feel towards your partner. This makes your partner happy, makes you happy and the best part, doesn't hurt anyone at all. Now some people will say it hurts God. But why?!!! Why should God be hurt that his children are happy in life while not causing harm to themselves and others? A personal relationship with God tells me my God is not that petty. I am not naive to think that the bible was not written with a cultural perspective and personal biases of the writers in place.

The other sexual immoralities I agree with, because they hurt others, adultery, bestiality, rape, sexual blackmail. Homosexuality, lesianism, pornography are not sins. They hurt no one and are between consenting adults.
Incest is an odd one out: why?! Well it's because if incest is a sin, how did we multiply from adam and eve if not through incest? So how was that good enough then but now is suddenly a sin? Very confusing.


I know many will disagree. But do so respectfully please. I didnt insult any one.

SirMichael1:
Shut up your mouth Oga! You came on my mention first and you're now asking me to respect your opinion? Do you even understand the words to write?

You keep jumping points but no problem. Anyways, I'll refer you to another place again. Go ask God why he gave the devil the right to mess with Job, his children and his wealth even when Job was in right standing with God. Until you understand why Jesus always requested that those he'd heal should go testify and spread the word, you'll never see the reasons for testimonies.

So because i responded to your post without even being rude or insulting....just because i quoted you, I deserve insults and rude remarks? What a fine example you are to the next generation. So now on a public forum, if you post and others respond, that calls for an automatic rude remark. What a sad person you must be. Continue bro. Your remarks doesn't make what i said or the lady you insulted wrong. You could have disagreed in a respectful way but i guess you were not brought up that way. Always triggered to protect your ego.

SirMichael1:
You should go and ask God why he chose to resurrect lazarus and not the whole dead people of Israel or why Jesus had to die before we can be forgiven of sin or maybe you should ask Jesus why the apostles had to die in gruesome manner.

Beside, the reason you think the op's testimony is wrong is because you hold a grudge against God. His thoughts are higher than your thoughts.

What else did i expect. You need to learn how to respect other's opinion bro. Are you the example others are to follow? For shame. The question you asked is the question lots of non believers keep asking. If you can't answer then what is the basis of your faith? Blindness? Go on.

SirMichael1:
You're saying nonsense if you're of the opinion that one shouldn't testify for how God saved his wife. Testimonies are to steer up faith in people, so i don't know what you're saying.

Then again Hezekiah's time on earth was due but God added 15years to him. Saying that it's perhaps not her time is just you saying nonsense.

Bro i know its difficult. Im happy for op but the sister you quoted is right. Why should others die and op's wife survive. Does God love them less...its insensitive to believe so. Its not that op cannot testify, its the way he did it. It makes it seem God chooses whom to save. Is God discrimatory? Are we okay with a God who discriminates? Hmmmmm. Please no one should insult me oo.

CivilAboki:
This is pure ignorance. Anyways may testimony never cease from our lives in Jesus Name So that we will share to the world to see the wonder workings of our God

The irony.

AyobamiIsaac12:
Hmm, this is serious. Engage in warfare prayers especially at midnight against it. You can also go for deliverance if they've started in your branch.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh my God I love this thread.

Adeesther56:
i saw a vision of olamide having sex with me through my techno y3 then i thought i have given birth in real life because he was having sex with me in that phone as if i have just given birth..and i knew am not pregnant not to talk of given birth.this life is full of mysterious things.

What did I just read. Hahahahahahahahahahaha. So you had a wet dream. Nothing mysterious about that. You guys are sooooo weird. Everything is strange and mysterious to you

Those who get made fun of are because they are very judgemental. Only if they were respectful, but No! Everyone who isnt like them is going to hell. You deserved it if you were like that.

youngchopper:

pls stop quoting me out of context
read through my post and you will get the answer to your question

Oh so you were providing life solutions not seeking for diverse opinions to expand your understanding? Im sorry then. Oh wise one please go on and pay no heed to me.

youngchopper:

and I know of a man (my self) who doesn't give a damn about sex.
Oga stop derailing from the topic
sex is not the key
sex is cheap and can't be the key
good character is expensive
and people value what ever that is expensive
pls don't reply me if you can't comprehend

Derailing the thread? You mean I should stop giving counter arguments? I thought you made this thread to hear people's opinion. If you only wanted to hear yourself you shouldn't have posted in a forum.

On topic: Your statement and mine should tell you that while sex is not a key to some, it is a key to others. So your opinion is not set in stone. Everyone is unique, take it or go cry somewhere.

youngchopper:

that's a topic for another day.
today's topic I repeat again
hot sexy can only sustain a relationship but can never never keep a marriage
if you are not yet married
pls ask your daddy

And im telling you...it is both. You cannot be of good character and be terrible in bed and hope that sustains him. It won't. I know men who have stayed in loveless marriages because their wives were amazing in bed. Yes! You heard right. Men love sex.

youngchopper:

yes
but same men never get satisfied and they continue seeking for sex outside marriage
we all know the end result of such habit.
my Bible told me that everything should be consumed in moderation
too much of everything is bad
pls my aim of posting this topic is to advice our women to know from today that sex is not the key
thank you

Same way there are women who have great character still the man cheats. Some men are just cheats and the ladies don't make things easy for their fellow women at all...let's just come to terms with that fact.

Bigotry...that is what God would want. Pure bred Bigotry in Africa, what else is new. Go on, these two love birds wi continue to be happy on their terms, not yours.