kingonyi9:

There is a Whatapp group and is very helpful

goukandu:
Good morning all
Please can people that have birthed in Canada this year or last please help us with breakdown
We need updated cats and information as times have changed
All these Dm me and email me is not helping this thread we need to keep the thread alive so other people can benefit from it
Thank you all

Scentiments:
Good evening everyone. Please can you advice on the preferred airline to use from Nigeria to Toronto while pregnant? Someone suggested Lufthansa. However, I heard a transit visa is required. Is this true? Has anyone here experienced Ethiopian airline? Please share your experience.

Didi28:
Hello everyone,
I came to say thank you to you all even though I didn't get direct information when I asked for one but reading the thread from the beginning really helped me to navigate through my journey to Canada, its been blissful though spending my hard earned money but its all worth it, I only came to say thank you and to say if anyone is in Ontario and considering using the Brampton Civic hospital you can reach out to me to connect you to my doctor, he has been so good so far, I will come to share my journey and experience after delivery. Hi dear, I want to use Brampton can you connect me to Brampton civic thank you .
God bless you all

Abercrome:


I’m also headed to Surrey, BC to birth my baby. I don’t have a gynecologist contact though. I was able to book an appointment with a family doctor and it’s after seeing the family doctor that he/she will refer me to a gynecologist.

ogeoflyf:
please can you send a mail here
Tooturntjoseph@gmail.com

Dsquare2017:
Caution: very, very, very, long post alert!!!!
Good day everyone in the house. I’ve been a silent reader, but I have greatly benefited from this thread and decided to give feedback on my journey so far. Thanks to the likes of Hotstepper, candybright, omobendel, and others (abeg forgive me if I no mention you, you are still acknowledged, please chop your accolade!) who were there to give kind guidance all the way. So, I would talk about my experience in stages. I know it’s very detailed but then I’m trying to cover whatever question you may have to ask me. For those who are not patient to read it
all, here are the highlights so far:
• Visa Application was online. Applied in September and approved in December 2018. Application was done before my wife was pregnant, so it was tourism visa.
• Accommodation was in an Airbnb for 10 weeks
• Hospital selected was Humber River Hospital
• Doctor spoken with was Doctor Ted Kosalka (didn’t require any referral)
• Point of Entry was quite easy though carried around to several desks. No unusual question or suspicion.
• Fees (these are the ones I have gotten so far) are as follows:
o Doctor’s fee: 2500 (both vaginal and CS)
o Pediatrician fee: 500 (both doctor and pediatrician fee paid at doctor’s office)
o Epidural: Doctor wasn’t too sure but said it’s about 1000 and will be paid on the day of delivery if required
o Hospital stay per night 3505 (mother and baby)
o Laboratory: 95(blood work) and 28(urine analysis)
o Ultrasound: 82
o Total: 7710 (Paid 6710 so far. Delivery day will determine the epidural cost)
Now to the details in stages.
Visa Application:
The VFS office Abuja was the Visa application center we used for the visa application. We applied for the visitor’s visa online on September 12, 2018. We initially intended to use it solely for tourism. Biometrics was requested for my wife in September 13, 2018 (I had already had my biometrics done in 2014 when I got my first Canadian visa). Passports were requested in November 19, 2018 and visas were issued in December 19, 2018 in London, England. Validity was till 2022 (around the time our passport was to expire). We intended to use visa for tourism in July 2019. However, my wife took-in in February 2019. Plans had to change since it did not make sense for use to arrive in Canada in July with a 5 months pregnancy and attempt to convince the border officer that we are not there for birth. That was how we decided that our baby would be born in Canada. Now I had no idea about what needs to be done for this to happen. So, I decided to make research and ask question. I was initially looking for an agent to help me do all of it. However, after I asked a colleague who had his children in USA how he did it, he directed me to nairaland, and then I realized that I don’t need an agent for this. That was how my search for this thread started. I was so anxious that I wanted to immediately ask all my questions at once. However, I noticed that those who asked were directed to read the thread from the beginning. So, I did the same. I didn’t really read it word for word but took note of experiences that relates to my situation. I saved several of those experiences which were helpful. And it’s true, most of the questions people ask here, have already been answered in previous posts, so for the newcomers, please read the thread from the beginning. Finally, my advice on visa application is to apply before you are pregnant so that you can apply as a tourist. The visa can last for as long as 10 years depending on the expiry date of your passport. So, don’t wait till you are pregnant to apply, just apply for it and get it. You are not required to make the journey after being issued the visa, so you can keep it till you are pregnant
Travel Preparation:
So, with the information I had gathered from the thread, I started making travel arrangement. For accommodation, first, neither my wife nor I have family or close friends to live with in Canada. Second, we actually needed an entire place to ourselves for the advantage of privacy and to be able to bring in visitors if necessary. Third, I needed to find a hospital first before making a final decision on accommodation, so as to make access to hospital facilities easier. So, I was on the internet every now and then looking for hospital and finding doctors. Over 90% of doctors phones go on voicemail and even when voicemails are dropped they don’t call back. However, I managed to get the cost of hospital fees for some hospitals such as St. Michael, Scarborough general, Humber River, and Lakeridge hospital. But getting doctors was the most difficult task. Eventually though I was able to get Dr. Ted Kosalka at Humber River Hospital. I spoke directly with him after his secretary handed me over to him, and he told me to expect to spend between 7000 and 8000CAD for my delivery. He also mentioned that doctor’s fee is 2000CAD for vaginal delivery and 2500CAD for CS. That money will be paid on the second visit. First antenatal visit is 120CAD and subsequent visit is 60CAD. Pediatrician fee is 500CAD and lab test is between 100 – 170CAD. I told him that I don’t have a referral from a family doctor, and he said there was no need for me to get referral. The hospital itself mentioned that hospital stay is 3505CAD per night (2680CAD for mother and 825CAD for baby) I made an oral appointment with the secretary for my wife’s first visit.
With Hospital and Doctor secured, it was time to book accommodation. I was already in discussion with a Nigerian who lives in Whitby, Ontario - one Mr. Folorunso (whom I found his contact on this thread) for accommodation. He had an entire basement that he rents at a very good price. Lakeridge hospital is also very close to his house. However, while Lakeridge hospital’s prices per night was reasonable, I was unable to get any doctor from Lakeridge hospital to answer my calls and the hospital itself said I have to get a referral. Though I would have loved to stay in the man’s house since he’s Nigerian and would understand things from a Nigerian point of view, I had to turn down the accommodation since the place was a little far from Humber river hospital which I eventually decided to use. So, I was back in search for accommodation. I finally got an Airbnb for 70 nights (10 weeks) in York, Ontario which was only about 10 mins drive to the doctor’s office, and about 15mins drive to the hospital. I also got return flight tickets booked as well.
Point of Entry:
Ok so I was a little scared of what will happen at POE because my purpose of visa application was only tourism. So I sent a mail to the Canadian High commission in Abuja in April 2019 to inform them of the change of intent…………… no reply. That got me even scarier. I then figured out that since the visas were issued in London, England, I would send the London office the mail. So I did. Unfortunately, I received an automatic reply that they don’t attend to visas inquiry. So I gave up, but printed the letter I mailed to them as evidence that I did not keep my intention hidden. As God would have it, I received a response one week later from the Canadian High commission in Lagos as a reply to the one I sent to London office. They confirmed that the visas were issued to me and my wife and that I only have to prove to the border officer that I have enough funds to cover the cost of delivery. The joy of that alone was more than the joy of getting visa approval. I immediately printed the letter as evidence.
We took the flight to Toronto, through Frankfurt Germany. Come and see where village people wan follow person cross border..lol. While boarding the flight from Frankfurt to Toronto, an African officer(his accent was not Nigerian though. Seems like he’s from some other African country) who was making checks on passports and boarding passes immediately started questioning us as if we are already at Canadian immigration and he is a CBSA. What’s your purpose of travelling to Canada? (Tourism and birth) Do you have 10000 dollars?(yes) Have you paid for your hospital fees and doctor’s fees already? Where are the receipts? (I have not paid because when I called the doctor….) No no no doctor is a private person, I need to see what you have paid to the hospital, the hospital is what is for the government. (Sir, I also called the hospital and I was told that I have to be in the country first….) No no no sir, that’s not how it works. The procedure is that you have to pay before you get there. Just stand here sir. I have to call the CBSA for you. (Okay, I’ll wait here)
Chaiiii, black man! Black man! Who do us this kain thing? So tey you wan pour sand for your own brother garri? Well after keeping us standing for about 20 mins, he came and showed us pictures of our passport and visa he has taken and that he spoke to the CBSA and that though the procedure is that we have to make payment first, he was able to convince them to let us board the flight. (For my mind I said this one now wan form say he speak on our behalf. Instead of him to acknowledge say he don fall hand and find out the correct procedure, he wan use African sense.) Anyway I thank God say God pass them
So we took the flight and arrived in Toronto International Airport. As soon as we got of the airplane door, some officers were there checking passport. They asked us what’s our purpose of coming to Canada, and we told them we came for tourism and to give birth. He directed us to another of his colleague who asked that we produce two forms of ID. I gave her passport and Nigerian driver’s license. She looked through and asked when the due date is. We told her and then she asked about the food items we were carrying. Then she let us go. We got to immigration and a lady there asked us what’s our purpose of coming to Canada. We told her same thing and she asked for the due date and how much we have on hand. (she didn’t ask to see though). She then directed us to another queue to see another immigration officer.
We eventually met an old man who is CBSA. He asked us our purpose of coming to Canada. We told him the same thing and he asked when is the due date, which hospital we were using, our doctor’s name, if we were on insurance or are cash patients, an estimate how much we have (he didn’t asked to see though), what my occupation is as well as that of my wife, when we planned to leave Canada, and other questions I can’t remember. He then asked if we were sure to leave on date of departure. We said we hope so. Then he added 11 more days to it as our maximum date of departure on the stamp. He gave my wife a document that she should hold on to it, as it would be required when we return. The document contained details that shows that we were not just there for tourism but to also give birth. The name of the doctor and hospital was there in the document. He also advised us to try to apply for the baby’s birth certificate and social insurance number (SIN) before we leave Canada. He told us to be sure it’s the right form we fill for it otherwise it can create problems for us. Generally, the man was extra nice. And that’s it – we were in!

Hospital/Doctor’s Bills
Got to Doctor Ted Kosalka’s Office (we had booked an appointment over the phone back in Nigeria). Front desk lady was quite nice and welcoming and asked if it was first time. Told us first visit is 120CAD and subsequent visit is 60CAD. Paid for the first visit(they accept cash only) and waited to see the doctor. Doctor outlined all bills required. Said Doctor’s fee is 2500CAD (both for vaginal or caesarean section. He said it’s best we pay full so that they wouldn’t have to ask for more money in case it turns out to be a CS). Pediatrician fee is 500CAD. Hospital fee is 3505CAD both for mother(2680CAD) and baby(825CAD) per day. If needed, Epidural fee or other pain management fee can be paid. He wasn’t too sure of Epidural fee but said it’s around 1000CAD. He said Doctor and Pediatrician’s fee is paid there in his office in cash (3000CAD). Hospital fees are paid at the hospital (Humber River Hospital) at the cashier’s office. Then we should go to the 4th floor at Humber River Hospital where the birthing unit is and see those at the registration for further information of what we need to bring along for birthing. He said hospital fees has to be paid well in advance and if possible, we should pay it that day. Also, doctor’s fees can be paid that day, but if not, we can pay it on our next appointment in two weeks. After checking my wife vital signs and doing a scan with a mini scanning machine, he confirmed baby’s ok, but we still need to do a full ultrasound. He gave us referral to laboratory and ultrasound which were in the same building as his office. Laboratory was for blood work (95CAD) and Urine analysis (28CAD). Lab accepted card payment. Ultrasound accepted only cash payment (82CAD).
Then we went to the hospital to make payments. Went first to the 4th floor and the lady at the reception said we were supposed to call first and book an appointment since she doesn’t normally attend to walk-ins. Any way she said we were already here and gave us two forms to fill at home which were basically birth preferences and a pre-operative anesthetic questionnaire. She said we should be sure to bring both forms on the day of delivery and then directed us to the ground floor where the cashier’s office is. We got there and made payment for the first 24hrs of stay for both mother and baby. Got all my receipt and kept them.
So, this has been my journey so far. I would update you guys when the rest of it is over. And I am confident that the God that saw us through the process up until this moment, we see us through to the end.

bimbss:
Hi Everyone currently in Ontario and it’s been a struggle to get a family doctor or gynae. Please I will be very grateful if anyone can recommend or assist me in getting one please thank you 🙏

torture:
Currently looking for a doctor in Ontario (Humber River) Most of the Doctors are not taking new patients (Including Ted Kosalka, his receptionist said they are full till April) I got another DR but they said her fee is CAD5,080 cash, non-refundable. Is this the normal rate? or too much?

Somandla:

Hi i have sent you an email regarding visa on arrival, kindly check your email

2021:
Good everyone
I need your help regarding birthing in Canada. What visa type am i expected to apply for since i dont have anyone in Canada and also would appreciate if you can give me links to affordable birthing agency in Canada?
Thanks

debsol:
Hi Everyone,
Please what do I require to be able to enter into Nigeria with my baby apart from Visa on arrival. Also can anyone help with the contact of anyone that can help process it. I will be travelling back mid March. Kindly respond please.

anabor:
Hello Moyo, please how did you go about Visa on Arrival for your baby back to Nigeria? My wife gave birth in Edmonton December, we intend to come back to Nigeria next month. Please your response and that of others here will be appreciated. Thanks

Tope2580:


Please sir, have you been to any part of Brazil before?

Tope2580:


Please sir, have you been to any part of Brazil before?

Tope2580:


I only asked a simple question, you don't need to tell me whether you have money or not.



But I can tell you for free that Sao Paulo is safe, forget about what you're seeing online.

When you are less busy, two weeks holiday in Sao Paulo will convince you.

Adjo10:


I will recommend you target a Brazilian Passport which is just 1 year away from when you receive your PR. That way, you can do away with the green passport and enjoy the VIP treatment of a blue Brazilian Passport. I also thought of enjoying only the PR but after few travels with my baby and seeing how differently we were treated and the fact that my baby doesn’t have to face any ugly visa officers (for many countries), I’m working towards a
Brazilian Passport now.

chuksozy:

Above for you

Kashamzy91:


Nigeria

oluflourish:

With Brazillian resident permit, you will still need to apply for visas to Europe. But trust me, it’s not difficult to get a visa as long as you meet all the requirements of having a steady source of income. It’s just a smooth process. Even with my Brazilian PR i still need a visa to Europe and i had never problems putting applications or ever been denied visa.

beautyuche:
She can do visa on arrival for the baby. it takes less than 10 min to get when you arrive Nigeria. Although application and approval must be done before leaving Brazil.
She has to go through custom officer of do it herself?

Katt247:
Finally picked up my child’s passport. Thanks be to God �

Brexiteer:

Florianópolis. Everyone should please read before asking questions. Don't disturb the only helpful human on this thread

Nwebele:
You must have registered your baby birth certificate at their local govt called Cartoria.

Then you do the citizenship ID card called RJ (they pronounce it like ehijay), at another govt office called Paupatempo.
You should also have the CPF of yourself (their tax id number).

Then with these documents you go to Policia Federal website and apply for baby passport.
You will be sent a Protocol page with
registration code. With that code you go to schedule appointment at the same website

Nwebele:
I have applied but couldn't get any appointment as it has been overbooked on Policia Federal website. My Police report will expire this month endand my visa in 3 weeks time. Is there anyone here who knows how else I can get a quicker appointment or any city I can walk in and submit without appointment. Please kindly assist if you do

TechSpot:



Congrats


All you need is stated in this link:


http://www.pf.gov.br/servicos-pf/imigracao/cedula-de-identidade-de-estrangeiro/documentos-necessarios-para-

registro/reuniao-familiar/documentos-necessarios-para-autorizacao-de-residencia-com-base-em-reuniao-familiar

afelouz:
Hello everyone,

About three weeks ago, we welcomed our son and I immediately kick start the PR process.

I had to wait and do all this stuff so I can write a comprehensive post and I hope someone will find it helpful..

We had our baby in Sao Paulo, I don’t know if the process is different in another state.
Hello, I have question about the birth certificate. Is it the embassy that did the translation For the birth certificate and was it someone that helped you or you did yourself.I’m in that stage now .

Immediately after the birth of the baby, we were given a document that I took to the Cartorio to register my baby and get the original birth certificate of the new born.

A few days later, I proceeded with the baby’s RG registration at Paupa Tempo, (RG is the citizenship card of the Brazilian child and you need to make an appointment before going to Paupa Tempo), baby’s picture was captured and we were given a date to come and pick up the RG card.

With those two documents, I can now process the PR for my family and also apply for the baby’s International passport.

Below is a list of documents needed to process the PR.

Online application form confirmation page
Photocopy of all passport pages
Child birth certificate
Child RG
Birth cert translation ( embassy)
Police report translation ( embassy)
Original Police report cert in English
applicant CPF
Payment of 168.13 reais, 204.77 reais each or the PR application
A lot of declaracao (declaration) such as:-
Declaraco de endereco electrónico e demais meios de contato
Certidao estadual de criminais
Certidao de distribuição
Declaracao de residencia
Declaracao de manutenção
Prove or address in Brazil ( bill)
2 passport photo

As for the baby’s international passport, documents needed are:-

The Brazilian child birth certificate.
The Brazilian child RG
Parents international passport,
5x7 passport photograph of the Brazilian child
Online application form
Some declaração (declaration)
Payment of 257.25 reais
(Both parents must be present)


After getting all the documents in order, we went to police federal and submitted the PR application. We now have our protocols while waiting for the actual CRNM card...
We applied for the baby’s passport also and still waiting to pick it up.

Now, the process is not so easy as stated here, in fact, I got frustrated and misplaced my phone in the process. Despite reading the requirements here on this thread and having someone who has gone through the PR process here in Sao Paulo who helped me with the list of documents needed, yet, they didn’t collect our application. We went to Policia federal about 4 times before getting the complete documents. If you meet Mr ‘A’ today and he says you only need one documents and everything is good and you go with the requested documents and meet another person, that person will ask for another thing.

The language is a big barrier so Its better to get a sworn translator or anyone who can speak Portuguese to make things easy… they won’t read whatever you translated with your phone at Policia federal and most of all these places

NOTE - The PR application now takes less than two months In Sao Paulo, in fact, my friends who applied around ending of January got the CRMN card first week in March, that’s about a month.

As for the Nigerian visa for the baby, I'm still waiting for the baby’s passport and making enquiries. As soon as I am done with that, I will revert.

We didn’t get to extend our visas as the timing was right and we applied before our 3 months entry stamp expires.

I'm still gathering information on the provisional citizenship. hopefully, I can apply for my daughter before leaving Brazil If I get her CRNM card on time.

Also, If I remember any additional information regarding the PR process, I will come back and share….

Thank you all and good luck to those waiting to get their visas.

Adjo10:


Well said. Also note that for Nigerians, you can extend it for another 90 days at the Polícia Federal office in Brazil. Just make sure that when you go for your renewal, you still appear like a tourist if your baby is not yet born. If they suspect that you have other motives than being a tourist, then they will not extend it for you because your original visa itself is a tourist visa.
What if the babe has been born ? Do you still need it to be extended?
Cheers