We go see how it ends. Russia might win in Ukraine, but we are not scared enough to not send weapons to Ukraine.

StephonClarkS2:

We are doing what we want to do, how we think is best to do it. We put bears in their place all the time, Russia won't be any different.
But we will do it our own way.

StephonClarkS2:

He's angry at Russia's restraints...that's patriotism which I commend. He realizes Russia's capabilities. Unlike the West, Russia has competent leadership and that has been proven even on the battlefield.
Me I want NATO to poke the bear.
Thier weapons which proved very effective in Afghanistan would not save them.

Enough to make the leaders in Russia to be screaming escalation.

Listen to this Russia guy below, he sounds a lot like you. He's angry about the weapons we are sending
and how Russia is not doing enough to set NATO on fire.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBUw5YKUG50

StephonClarkS2:

Those weapons were very successful in Afganistan.

You and your Putin lovers just love throwing "Nazi" around. But it's not working o! We will keep supplying them with weapons, to fight against Russia the invader.

StephonClarkS2:

Those other Ukrainians that terrorized their fellow Ukrainians on behalf of Nazi Germany are also Ukrainians.
Try to dey think.

Did you know that Zelensky is a Jew?

StephonClarkS2:



Don't confuse yourself.
The reincarnated version of "some Ukrainians" is Zelensky and the other Ukrainians terrorizing thier fellow Ukrainians. They still maintain thier Nazi ties with 'rehabilitated' Nazi Germany.
Reminiscent of the past, Ukrainians in the donbass republics have turned to the Soviets (Russia).

Yes, it's saying some sided with Germans, more and more turned(to join) to the Soviets. Not turned against the Soviets.

StephonClarkS2:

"some Ukrainians continued to side with the Germans, more and more turned to the Soviets"

You said "Keep sending ammunition's that won't get there till August." We are sending a lot more than Abrams tanks to Ukraine. So are on their way there. Actually the rumor is that the Abrams will take around 1 year.

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What you bolded said most Ukrainians were part of the USSR arming against Germany.

StephonClarkS2:

Top Russian propagandist complains about problems Russia will face with Western aid to Ukraine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBUw5YKUG50

Russia is the one invading Ukraine.

StephonClarkS2:
Are you aware that Russia granted Ukrainian refugees who were persecuted by thier fellow Ukrainians Russian citizenship?
It's reminiscent of WW2.
"Rehabilitated" Germany yet again is collaborating with Ukrainian Nazis to terrorize their fellow Ukrainians.

Excerpts from history. Pay attention to the bolded.


German leader Hermann Göring went as far as suggesting all Ukrainian men should be killed, and the SS men be sent in to re-populate the land with German blood - a treatment Göring and other Nazi leaders wished to impose on all conquered Eastern European nations. Erich Koch was appointed as the German governor of Ukraine, carrying out such policies. Among the atrocities committed against the Ukrainian people, perhaps the most infamous was the Massacre of Babi Yar, which took place shortly after the arrival of the Germans; in two days in late Sep 1941, 33,771 Ukrainians were killed by Germans. The city of Kharkov, too, suffered dearly during the war, not only from German occupation but also from the four battles between the Germans and the Soviets that saw the destruction of most of the city. As the war went on, while some Ukrainians continued to side with the Germans, more and more turned to the Soviets, with thousands joining the Soviet military.

Today, thousands of Ukrainians in the Donbass republics joined the Russian forces to fight against the Ukrainian Nazi regime of Zelensky.(this is also reminiscent of ww2)

It's not about how long ago, it is not the same. USSR does not equal Russia.

StephonClarkS2:

Is about 70 years ago an old kingdom?
All the 'old kingdoms' you're trying to downplay are relevant to Russia's history.
So you don't know how it ended?

Well they refused Russia's demands. And we support them and will keep supporting. Maybe Russia should have just let Ukraine join NATO if they want and not try to be a bully. In the future we will know who made the right decision.

atmy1:


Morality, history and time are all on Russia side. All Ukraine had to do was stay neutral, leave Crimea alone and grant autonomy to Donbas, they would have been alright.

Defending its people is not the reason Russia invaded.

How did it end? Make sure you give examples that apply to Russia as we know today, not some old kingdoms that don't exist no more. Thank you.

StephonClarkS2:

I don't know the mental gymnastics you went through to come to the conclusion that a country defending it's people against the yoke of Nazism is evil and Germany is now miraculously rehabilitated.
"We will deal with Russia" "We will bring Russia down to her knees." These are statements and lofty illusions of your progenitors.
Do you know how it ended?

Germany use to be the evil. Now it's Russia. And we will deal with Russia.

StephonClarkS2:

And Germany was what "in the past" (to use your own words).
Who are those sponsorsing Nazism in Ukraine today? Germany "in the past"?
Ashraf Ghani has the link.
Contact him.

Maybe you can provide a link about Afghanistan since you keep talking about it.

It was Russia who worked with the Nazis in the past. You keep screaming Nazis, lol
There are people who claim to be Nazis in many countries.

Ukraine, like Russia can be racist. But we will set Ukraine straight as they continue on the journey to join the EU.

StephonClarkS2:

No matter where Russia fights the Nazis, Russia will never be conquered.
Get yourself familiarized with the combat history of the tanks in Afghanistan.

Bottom line is that Germany fought the USSR on the east, that's not the case now. So a different history will be written, which has nothing like the past history. The tanks going to Ukraine will not even be operated by Germans.

StephonClarkS2:

The Soviet union was made up of Ukraine, Russia and other countries.
After the break up of the Soviet Union, Russia emerged as the main successor of the term Soviet.
This is why the SMO is neccessary. There are Ukrainians with Russian roots who have been terrorized by the Nazi regime in Kiev and Russia is obligated to help it's people.

They are not liberating nothing. Russia is already bombarding like crazy.

atmy1:


Now you catch my drift. The Ukrainians are lucky Russia went into this war softly. This is the war with the lowest civilian death ever and yet the west keep screaming genocide. The civilian dead is less than half that of iraqi war in the first 6 months. Arestovych said the Russians didn't want to kill anybody. Unfortunately, only Ukrainians will suffer in this escalation as Russia will just keep escalating in response to the west. At some point Russia will give up on liberation and just keep bombarding.

Russia does not equal Soviets. You obviously have no clue of anything if that's what you think.

Russia has not been able to kill all Ukrainian's old tanks, so I'm not worried. The more tanks they get the better.

StephonClarkS2:

Russia=Soviets.
And history is about to repeat itself.
If the Taliban can do it, why not Russia?

Where are you getting your August from?

Look this up:
The British Challenger 2 tanks will arrive in Ukraine at the end of March, and the training of Ukrainian crews will begin on January 30th.

Poland will be sending Leopards there sooner.

Your intel is obviously wrong.

atmy1:


Keep sending ammunition's that won't get there till August. Meanwhile, Russia continues to advance on all fronts. There is enough time on Russia's hands. If the worst comes to the worst, they will give up on denazifying Ukraine and just constantly destroy the country's infrastructure making it unbearable to govern. If they strike Russia too much, nuclear response and everyone dies. Russia loves the ethnic Russians in Donbas that's why they want to liberate them first before going merciless.

Well this time around, there's no more Soviets. Ukraine was part of it then, so they won't have that, and we will not be suppling Russia no ammo. The ammo will go to the Ukrainians this time. So that history is totally different from what is on ground now.

StephonClarkS2:

I did not forget, German tanks were destroyed by the Soviets in ww2.
History is repeating itself.
The Taliban destroyed 'invincible' Western weapons.

The funny thing is that that all supports Ukraine winning, because it's harder to invade a country that's willing to keep fighting. The only difference here is that Putin doesn't mind destroying the whole place and turn it into a waste land.

StephonClarkS2:

Did you ask Ashraf Ghani for the links?
Ordinary Taliban destroyed 'sophisticated' weapons.

We had to lend-lease weapons to Russia to be able to defeat Germany on the east. Don't forget that.

In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US.

StephonClarkS2:

German tanks getting destroyed in Russia? Yes it's part of history.

What I found speaks really good of them, so I'm sure your info must be coming from somewhere else.

It's easy to say "not my responsibility" when you don't have proof and just talking trash. You've not shied away from making it your responsibility to educate me, but now that I ask for proof, it's no more.

Also if those thanks are so bad, then why is Russia screaming "Escalation!"

StephonClarkS2:

You're unable to find any information of destroyed Abrams and Leopards?
So they're invincible?
I could provide a link but your ignorance is not my responsibility.

They should keep restraining, because history favors us.

StephonClarkS2:

History is the reason why Russia continues to exercise restraints.

Can you please provide a link? Thank you.

I cannot find anywhere online that talks about crazy destruction of these tanks in Afghanistan.

StephonClarkS2:

It forgot to add that they were destroyed in Afghanistan.

We are happy to keep being the greatest evil in the world!

Kingpin1000:
The greatest Evil in the world are America and Britain.. take that to the bank..

We will know when it's all said and done. When the history books are written.

StephonClarkS2:

The problem is...your right time may not be the right time.
Russia isn't waiting and it continues to liberate more territories.
Any idea when this right time would be?

Yes. They are better than what Ukraine has now and better than what Russia has.

The design protects the people inside even when it's hit. There are videos on youtube you can watch. Not the ones that just show it being hit and catching fire, without showing the aftermath.

StephonClarkS2:

Are you familiar with the combat history of the leopards and Abrams?

Na you dey call me "idiot" in your replies, you come dey talk about "stoop low" You funny die.

You clearly don't know what "almost" means. Olodo rabata!

You dey here dey yab Nigeria just because you dey South Africa.

Common South Africa dey shak you like dis! If dem come make mistake give you visit to go better country nko? You go begin call Nigeria the worst name.

Goddson:


The idiot you still don’t get the point, I won’t stoop low to your level… go read my previous messages and you will understand my view point.

Now read the messages again and try to identify use of ambiguous words there. When I said “A for Apple” you should have decoded it. But I ll leave you to gallivant in your ignorance. I guess you never been to tertiary institution, if you have then
So I guess when your lecturer tells you the sky is blue, you have to believe the him and the book? You see why there is no advancement in the educational system in Nigeria, and you also see why your likes are easily propangadized. you are just the face of the decay of the educational system in Nigeria. Your fellow dumb friend will give you a backdate of what led me to make such statement.

They will, and most of the dead tanks in Ukraine belong to the Russians, in case you didn't know.

StephonClarkS2:

I believe these super tanks will fare better than the 2000+ already destroyed.

People will die, what will try to do is to limit that and also make sure we get the weapons there at the right time.
If we rush to get things there too fast, things can go wrong.

You don't just do gragra all the time. It's similar to playing soccer, your system might allow the opponent to have the ball more, in order for you to counter attack. That's also why when Putin talks about nuclear weapons, our leaders don't start screaming that we have them too. We don't need to talk too much. We've used it before and we can use it again. We are monitoring Russia 24/7 All their ships and subs, have a few of ours following their every move.

StephonClarkS2:

So you're gambling with the lives of Ukrainians? Why not send them the weapons they need to prevent more death?
Not that I care about the lives of Nazis.
I'm just drawing attention to the loophole in your argument.

That's what we are doing. We are training Ukrainian soldiers in the west and the Bradleys are in Poland now, on their way to Ukraine.
We are getting a bunch of tanks to send over. We are busy man!

StephonClarkS2:

Put actions to your words.