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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 10:39pm On Jan 06, 2019
NiyiOmoIyunade:
It simply means the batteries were not very far apart in SoC (good news) or one battery is already toast since the voltage fell so sharply in such a short time (bad news)

If you bought the HA02 balancer it can move up to 10A of current between the batteries - that is sufficient charge into a weaker battery to make the voltages appear to converge.

Two tests I do -#1 - with the balancer attached, allow the batteries to drain to 12v each and then slightly beyond e g 11.8v each. If they all stay in sync as per voltage when drained so far, then they are all pretty well matched in capacity and your balancer saved the lesser charged battery from dieing prematurely.

Test #2 - with the balancer attached, measure voltage of each battery when the inverter or CC is in ABSORB - they will likely not stay at perfect sync but it is okay to see .03v of deviation - if you have one battery at 14.8v during absorb and another at 14.1v or less then one of the batteries is out of spec and needs to be identified.

You did not specify if you were using Quanta batteries for this test? Not sure how well they would survive charging at 14.7v




they're actually new batteries...

and no, they're not Quanta. implied it in my first post.

Thanks
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:31pm On Jan 06, 2019
Namzy:

Do battery balancers work that fast..... 5 secs hmmm

well, I don't know exactly how it works. after I connected the balancer and switched ON the input source to the inverter, the meter readings danced around for the first 3 seconds or so and stabilised at 13.9v each.
shut down the inverter and disconnected the balancer. after connecting it again, same thing happened.
just my personal observation, though.
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 5:14pm On Jan 06, 2019
BATTERY BALANCER REVIEW

so, there's been this debate whether battery balancer works or not... well, I 'like just state my observation.

so, I installed a 3.5kva/48v inverter system for this client with 4 batteries, December 2018. all batteries were reading 12.7v at purchase (why I always love Quanta; reads 12.9v at purchase)

As customary, the battery has to charge for at least 8hrs. However they charged it overnight. they only use the system once and drained it to just 48.8v before they shut it down. since they planned on adding four more batteries and solar this January, they decided not to use it again until the whole setup is complete.

last week Friday, I added battery meters and discovered that the batteries weren't just balanced. During charge they're reading 14.5v, 14.3v, 14.7v, 13.8v. (see Pic 1)

so I went and get a battery balancer and install it. 5 seconds later, I got pic 2; all were reading 13.9v

I removed the balancer and the batteries reading went back to pic1. put it back and the batteries reading went back to pic2.

will install the four new batteries tomorrow and carry out another observation.

Cheers

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 6:58pm On Dec 22, 2018
desiji:
So to Giving back my Installation:
. My Solar Systems comprises of the following
1. 15 Pieces of EcoDelta 280Wp Poly Solarmodule
2. 1 complete all in one Inverter FSP502PV-230F-48v Off-Grid
3.100m of Solar cable 4mm black
4. ECO-WORTHY 6 String PV Combiner Joint Box & 15A Circuit Breakers for Solar Panel
5. pylontech US2000B plus 48v
6. ICC software for monitoring
7. Diverses Circuitbreakers and accessories

the 4mm cable, is it to connect the panels to the PV combiner box or to run from the PV combiner box to the SCC?

don't want to believe it's the later

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:23pm On Dec 16, 2018
Also, most times, the suppliers doesn't help matter. If a client demands I supply him 12 batteries. if 12 batteries of same brand are not available at that moment, I'll simply tell him to either go for 8 or just wait.

But then, I've discovered that even most of them don't know any single nothing. They just know "pay and I'll supply". whether you're buying 5 different brands to use on one bank, they don't know the consequences

yet, even those that are fully aware of the consequences will still go ahead with the transaction... after all, what's their business. tomorrow when you start complaining, they'll put all blame on you. that's when you'll know that asking for warranty from our dealers is like asking PMB to resign...

It is well o

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:13pm On Dec 16, 2018
nonoski:

grin
If only u knew the nr of days I soaked Garri to be able to afford 12 batteries (N1.3m) within 6 weeks.

congratulations on the bold step bro. however, after soaking the garri, you still made a mistake. Dmerciful just pointed it out

NEVER mix batteries of different brands; even if they are same capacity and technology. even if they were manufactured the same day and time. They can never ever have exact same characteristics.

few manufacturers do state it in the leaflet that comes with their batteries. Mpower just re-branded their battery. The new ones now comes with a leaflet with battery do's and don'ts. one of the do's is "always use batteries from same manufacturer within a bank of multiple batteries"

it would've even been a little bit manageable if it were maybe, 8 from one brand and 4 from another brand.
nevertheless, mixing batteries from different manufacturers, is just a NO NO

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 11:55am On Nov 09, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Just to add that effectiveness of an SPD in DC applications will now depend on the design tolerance of the equipment you are protecting vs the SPD's trigger threshold.

Since the surge protection device will only begin to divert fault current when it sees voltage rise above the set limit, you must match the SPD to the design tolerance of the equipment you are protecting.

A good CC can withstand a few thousand volts of surge voltage with no damage, your average inverter may not survive that experience grin So it is not sufficient to just install any SPD but rather one suited to protect your target device(s).

If price is not an object, then you may want to look at the Midnite SPD or perhaps Delta or Schneider. Midnite SPDs are practically the gold standard for surge protection and will limit the voltage rise your device sees to safe limits e.g the SPD 300 will begin diverting fault current at 385volts and almost assuredly limit the maximum voltage rise your device sees to under a thousand volts.

Midnite have some interesting videos and comparison tests on their website. I may share these later.




Good morning Niyi,

Now I see why the DC SPD rating is always higher compared to that of the AC.

thanks ... cheers
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:09am On Nov 09, 2018
DMerciful:
Firstly, it is not advisable to use it for AC application since its designed for DC. Secondly, even for DC application, it will only come to play if the surge exceeds 670v

Good morning prof

thanks

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 3:15pm On Nov 08, 2018
Oshomo12:


I want to belief this issue was discussed sometimes back. Please use AC for AC and DC for DC, no reason looking for trouble.

Thanks for your reply... I appreciate

though I think what was actually discussed was for breaker (whether to use AC breakers in DC circuits and vice versa). I'm asking regards to Surge device.

Thanks again
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:02am On Nov 08, 2018
Good morning all,

please, shown is a picture of a Surge Protective Device rated 670VDC

will there really be any consequence if I use it in an AC circuit.? will it work?

thanks... cheers

Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:16pm On Sep 25, 2018
GeorgeD1:
after rain, comes shine.

for those peeps here in the south-south, it seems happy times
are finally here after all the weeks of never-ending rainfall smiley


#the devil is a monkey...#

nice one grand patron... stay blessed

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 9:29am On Sep 13, 2018
[kindly recommend a reliable brand] thank you [/quote]
Sukam falcon plus.. it's 1.6kva. has 15A charging current
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 6:38pm On Sep 11, 2018
ab3458:
Hello house, please what is the difference between the 12v and 24v inverter a friend said that the 24v volts consumes more energy and advised I go for 12v-800w to1kva inverter since its a small set up comprising tv, home theater, dstv, rechargeable fan and 4 bulbs. Ive gotten 2 units of 150ah network batteries. But mercury battery backup time calculator says otherwise. Please advise thank you

first of all, let me say that every voltage system has its advantage and disadvantage... with 12V system, there's no issue of unbalanced voltage among batteries..

with 2 units of 150Ah batteries, you'll need to connect the two batteries in parallel @12V to give you a total of 300Ah battery bank. This means you need a 12V inverter that has a charging current of at least 30A. otherwise, in no distant time you'll be complaining that your batteries aren't sustaining again because sulfate has built some duplex on the plates

with 24V inverter, you'll need at least 15A charging current.

12V inverter will have more conversion loss compared to 24V inverter.

in summary, I'll PERSONALLY recommend at least a 1.5kva/24V inverter. Trust me, a 1kva inverter won't be the ideal inverter for your system. 1kva inverter is only about 800W.
and don't worry about having unbalanced voltage with your 24v setup, as long as you don't frequently discharge your battery bank deeply. or better yet, you can install a battery balancer

cheers

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 10:15am On Sep 03, 2018
efuro:



I have a question for gurus only. is there anyway I can configure 2 separate pv stream on a single 300v DC mnspd. i could not get 115v dc type when I was buying and I had to buy the 300v because any form protection is better than non even though most cc protection is not up to 300v except TriStar

in as much as this question was dedicated to the gurus only, nevertheless let me try small...

if there are 2 separate PV streams, that means you have 2 separate PV arrays. having 2 separate PV arrays means you have 2 separate SCCs; one for each of the PV array.

MNSPDs are usually connected to the upstream of the SCC. so I don't think you can configure "2 separate streams" on one mnspd. if you do that, you've effectively paralleled the 2 PV streams to the mnspds which means you have to use one SCC.

NB: if you're using 2 separate PV arrays, it means that either the 2 streams contain PV modules that are not closely matched together or the 2 streams are on a separate orientation (maybe one is facing west and the other facing east... which is my case). both of these scenarios requires that you use separate SCCs for each of the array; and in both case, the individual SCC should have its own mnspd.
another case might be that both arrays combined together will be larger than the maximum power input of one single SCC

SUMMARY: 2 " separate streams" requires 2 separate SCCs which requires separate mnspds

As always, the above is strictly my personal opinion. if I'm wrong, correct with brotherly love and not critics.
Cheers

over to the gurus...

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 3:13pm On Aug 16, 2018
[ short circuquote author=Barezzi post=70188547]Guys,
Is there any danger connecting the AC output of an Inverter to its AC input?[/quote]

I've seen few responses to this question and I think people are mixing it up.

The question is about "connecting the AC output of an Inverter to its input". for this particular scenario, I've done it to Felicity Inverter and I noticed the inverter was making a 'thud' sound (every 3sec) with the charge light trying to come on. it was as if the inverter was trying to charge the battery with its own source but some intelligent circuitry was also struggling to prevent that.

The other scenario is when you connect the output of an Inverter to its input SOURCE (PHCN or Gen).
now, this is not just a short circuit; it's actually worse than a short circuit. it's like connecting together any 2 phases of a 3 phase system.

#MY PERSONAL OPINION.

Cheers

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 6:40pm On Aug 10, 2018
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:11am On Aug 02, 2018
OnePunchMan:

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 5:33pm On Aug 01, 2018
Disco01:

Thanks dear, this is really helpful.

What could be the wattage of an average 1kw inverter?
1kw

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 5:32pm On Aug 01, 2018
OnePunchMan:


Hello,

We can only place orders on amazon USA for now.

Thank you.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074CX5YLT/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 2:15pm On Jul 30, 2018
OnePunchMan:

Hello,
We can only place orders on amazon USA for now.
Thank you.
OK, thanks
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 2:07pm On Jul 30, 2018
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 3:25pm On Jul 22, 2018
wow... A lot have been said about the CB. nevertheless, I have a small observation with a small question...

It has been stated that most of these DC breakers are polarized and the polarity must be strictly adhered to. I've observed that sometimes a 2-pole DC breaker is used to break only the positive cable. What is been done is that the strand of the positive cable will be divided between the two poles of the 2-ploe breaker.

I've seen it on a Sukam/Mopower 5kva/48v Inverter. A 2-pole breaker was used for the Battery disconnect for only the positive cable. what I can't remember was whether the breaker was actually polarized.

so, is a right practice. as a matter of fact, I just installed the breaker in the attached pic where I did something like that. used it for INVERTER-BATTERY disconnect and also for the SCC-BATTERY disconnect on only the +ve cables with the strands divided...

"You're dead the day you stop learning"

Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:11am On Jul 19, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
This is correct for cold weather and early morning.

What about a 26°C afternoon with full sun and clear skies such as we have seen in the last few days? You can easily overshoot nameplate in that scenario.


exactly... you can overshoot nameplate data at full sun glare.. at which the weather can't be cold.

as the sun intensity increases, the Voc drops while the power and current increases...
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:33pm On Jul 18, 2018
Saipro:

In cold weather, yes.
In cloud edge glare, yes.
When panels are underrated (to oust the competition), yes.
When charge controllers overstate their performance or data, yes.

Could these variables be stacked? Yes.

in cold weather my observation with cold weather and early morning hours is that the Voc tends to rise (in fact, those are the times you have the max Voc) but the power and current stays minimal... close to zero

personal observation though...
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 11:09pm On Jul 12, 2018
hello Niyi,

got any DC/AC clamp meter for sale?

can drop your number, if you don't mind... got few other things I need you might help with.
Thanks
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 1:44pm On Jul 06, 2018
kadorzy:
Hello house, can the head of house and the plenty gurus in the house help me out.
I need a template that can guide me in designing a quotation for an offgrid solar power system.
I have all the facts but lack any formal sample to use for it.

Thanks all.

I hope this helps

cheers

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Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 1:03pm On Jul 02, 2018
kiekie1:


Nice one . mine also works great! See pics of my improvised DC led for individual battery voltage monitoring smiley

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081-350-31951

how much are those LEDs?
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:04pm On Jun 28, 2018
JUO:
Power your fridge, freezer, AC with solar during the day and public power at night when available. Don't kill your batteries with huge load. Price is 16k for 63a

nice one JUO...

please, how exactly does it work?

does it do seamless transfer?
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:02pm On Jun 28, 2018
JUO:
Power your fridge, freezer, AC with solar during the day and public power at night when available. Don't kill your batteries with huge load. Price is 16k for 63a

nice one JUO...

please how exactly does it work? does it do seamless transfer?
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 9:33pm On Jun 22, 2018
pranil:
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even Schinder is looping the neutrals on a neutral busbar for both input and output so I would say you can safely loop them with same size conductor as L input

But then there's one thing with this neutral looping of a thing.

if you must run only one neutral cable to the Inverter and loop the input and output neutral, it means you have to connect that neutral at the neutral bar (at the distribution panel).

what I normally do is that I usually totally separate the inverter loads from the main distribution panel and move them to a separate panel. so all loads that the client want to be on inverter, I remove both their live and neutral from the main DB and connect them directly to the Inverter output through a mini panel.
then the inverter input goes to the main DB. hence 4 wires- 2L and 2N (with ground, of course)

where only one neutral cable will be run to the Inverter, the full separation won't be achieved. you have 3 wires- 2L and 1N

watcha think
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:50pm On Jun 22, 2018
pranil:
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GUYS Are you sure you did not get the US model ( there is L1 and L2 with N) only in US models L1, L2 E and N

for UK/EU 230 V 50 HZ models there is L, N and E for both input output

or is it SW+ with separate generator input

see the snapshot from manual and download link - https://41j5tc3akbrn3uezx5av0jj1bgm-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ML20180101_Conext-SW-230V-Installation-Guide-975-0637-01-01_Rev-F_ENG.pdf



even Schinder is looping the neutrals on a neutral busbar for both input and output so I would say you can safely loop them with same size conductor as L input

thanks Pranil... I guess it's the US model afterall

cheers
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 8:43pm On Jun 22, 2018
VULCAN:
@mcTrinty

Thanks for your reply.

Any idea of a reliable source for any of these CCs or the Mustpower?

The battery number I finally settle with will be decided by whether the inverter I choose is 24 or 48v. I have 1500W panels.

Thanks


hello Vulcan,

for the CC, you can try JUO. he has a very good reputation here. I've had dealings with him. Nevertheless, why I like him is that he always takes time to offer technical support. He's always ready to guide you (via chats, calls and whatsapp video) through connection and wire up of components, even the ones you didn't buy from him.

I've also dealt with Brightsolar

we also have other known sellers here like zeestone, kiekie

Oga Niyi can also help you with regards to the Mustpower inverter. you can trust his recommendation 101%

finally, you can simply buy from SolarDepot. That's where I buy premium inverters and CCs from.

cheers

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