Friend22:


You can say that to your deluded self.
Islaam has nothing to do with their actions.
Stop being an emotional layabout!

I will never attribute the dastard action of Rev King (google it)to christianity.

You keep saying this but what is seen all over the world is different except in those countries or regions where western education has been deepened, adherents of other faiths are in the majority, or the government is really committed to punishing such perpetrators. It may not shock anyone to know that those who perpetrated this act may go unpunished at the end of the day.

tonexman18:
I don’t know how to download it…moreover you are asking the wrong question, “Are they supposed to kill her because of what she said” should be the question…

I asked because you said that you saw it on whatsapp how she was insulting Mohammed. Contrarily, what has been reported is that she was killed for attributing her exam success to Jesus Christ. These are conflicting reports, none for which the killing of the innocent girl was justified.

9gerian:
You are right about the constitution and the rights of all citizens, especially those who are not adherents of the moslem faith. That is why I mentioned- trial in a court of competent jurisdiction, to protect the innocent by all legal means.

However, are you aware that even before the advent of shariah law in the north, people have been killed based on mere accusations? As such accusations are accompanied by jungle justice that removes any chance of the accused getting justice, hence my insistence on fair trials for any accusation whatsoever.

So the target here is to shape the people’s view away from jungle justice to embracing fair trials as a way of addressing their grievances if applicable.

Unfortunately, the issue is not easily a black and white situation citing the constitution. It is very complicated because religion is involved.

Even, the west that introduced to us their brand of civilization, continue to find ways to cooperate with the Arab world, Communist China etc in spite of their very different ways of life, laws and culture.

Shalom!

I got your points.

tonexman18:
Theres a whatsapp audio making rounds on twitter where she said so…

I think it will be better for you to post the video here.

ityP:



Even Tinubu sees nothing wrong with killing someone because of blasphemy. Yoruba Muslims may not have the courage to do same, but deep down, they are happy when their northern brothers do. That's why Tinubu can say Yoruba and North are one

You should thank God that Christianity began in Nigeria through the SW and that Chief Awolowo encouraged free education. Otherwise, may be the SW would have been similar to the North in this act of barbarism with the kinds of MURIC Akintola and his co-travellers.

tonexman18:
Thats very bad..Rip to the deceased

She was in the North for goodnes sake, why did she talk bad about their prophet.. she for just mind her business

So, you saw her when and where she was speaking blasphemy?

9gerian:
Yes, Nigeria is a secular state with conventional courts and laws that have the penal code embedded.

However, years of conflicts have thought us that people allover the world are different with differing laws, customs and religious practices, that may include: from the seemingly sublime to the outrageously barbaric. Overtime some of those laws and practices have evolved, though some faster than the others. Some countries still behead offenders while others who did so in the past have stopped.

And while we may not be able to change all the laws and practices at once, we must at least ensure fairness by subjecting all accusations to judicial trials.

Sokoto and other Northern states appear to practice shariah law, which means blasphemy will likely be an offense. But a competent court would have insisted on proof, which would give the accused the right to a proper defense.

Then the case would have been properly heard to determine whether she really committed any offense or someone just simply set her up, as have reportedly happened in the past.

Personally, I think jungle justice of any sort is injustice, even if it seems okay to the community or mob.

This was the basis of my comment.

As long as you claim to have one Nigeria, Nigeria constitution is supreme to any sharia or customary laws. The constitution guarantees freedom of religion and does not bow to anything called blasphemy. If you want a country where the sharia law is supreme, then you will have to dissolve the country. Besides, sharia law cannot apply to people of other faiths.

GuyWise101:
Nna mehnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I think we should abolish religion in Nigeria and anyone seen worshipping in any mosques or churches should be arrested.

Religion has done more harm than good in Nigeria because people, religion brought boko-haram, we have religion yet there are still news of ritual killings here and there, religion brought the thirst for money and envy because the so called men of God no longer attends the burial of the poor.....(A priest refused to offer mass for a dead member simply because he was owing the church.)

Religion is a cancer to Africa because this is not our way of life.

Leave the church out of it. This kind of barbarism will continue to trend in the North as long as nobody is apprehended and punished for it. Can you sincerely tell us where Christians have ever killed and burnt anyone in the history of Nigeria for blaspheming Jesus Christ or Yahweh? And are you saying this act is the first of its kind in the North?

Corporate2020:


There is no single Igbo coward on Earth. There has never been. Any coward you see bearing Igbo name is definitely a bastard. I went to Catholic primary and secondary schools, so 70% of my classmates are Igbos, 20% Niger Deltans and 10% Yorubas. Almajaris never ever go to school. So, I know whom Igbos are. No single coward in the history of Igbos

There's no tribe without a coward, otherwise the word, 'coward', will not exist in the english language. The earlier you learn to be humble, the better. If a child gets to the house of fear, he will fear. Fear is natural for all mankind. A man that has never feared something in his life since birth is very rear.

Udopasa:
. The argument isn't coming from the point of pride or demand. Rather, from that of equity, justice and fairness.

I'm sure you know that the Abiola saga and the need to compensate the ill done to the South West informed the emergence of Obasanjo in that primaries in a party that Ekwueme almost single handedly founded.

If Nigeria stakeholders could rally round the South West to assuage their ill feelings and heal their wounds. Can't we also rally round the South East to give us a sense of belonging and justice?

Then produce your own "Abiola" first and then let that scenario of 1998 be replayed in the exact manner.

Udopasa:
. The argument isn't coming from the point of pride or demand. Rather, from that of equity, justice and fairness.

I'm sure you know that the Abiola saga and the need to compensate the ill done to the South West informed the emergence of Obasanjo in that primaries in a party that Ekwueme almost single handedly founded.

If Nigeria stakeholders could rally round the South West to assuage their ill feelings and heal their wounds. Can't we also rally round the South East to give us a sense of belonging and justice?

Your definition of equity is not in accordance with the dictionary of the English language and you had better stopped this lie and grandstanding. Have Ibos ever stepped than for Yorubas in a presidential election primary? If you are asking for favour, it's a different thing and you have to plead for it not claiming any equity. If the demand is not coming from the point of pride, then one Umeh who once said that it's wrong to give the speakership to the South West will not be asking the same South West people to concede the position of the president for his people. Sorry, that's a big insult from him. Rather, you should advocate for the restructuring of the country.

Udopasa:
Let the same scenario of 1998/9 be re-enacted.

Continue to wait for it.

Udopasa:
Do you in all honesty think that Obasanjo stood any chance if that contest was left for him and Ekwueme?

Why not? OBJ was once a president and the first military head of state to hand over to a civilian government in Nigeria, even when the fellow he handed over to was not from his tribe. I doubt if you know the honour that the singular act of handing over to a civilian government brought to OBJ globally. On the contrary, Ekwueme was never a president either before or after the 1998 presidential primaries. Whether OBJ had the chance of winning or not, Ekwueme contested with him. If the maxim, one good turn deserves another, is correct, then how are you so sure OBJ wouldn't have won the primary?

Udopasa:
The contest should be left for South Easterners just like that of 1998/9 in line with equity and justice.

Did Ekwueme step down for Obasanjo or contest with him in the primary? So, equity to you is to demand with pride from a people what you can never give those people? So that you can continue to boast of having a "manipulating sense" pass them right? That's an insult. There's no equity in arrogance and sense of manipulation.

Udopasa:
The contest should be left for South Easterners just like that of 1998/9 in line with equity and justice.

No contest was left alone for the SW in 1999 if you are not being untruthful to yourself. AD was a party formed in the West by the Yorubas the same way APGA was formed by the Ibos in the East. AD only formed alliance with APP at the presidential level and APGA is not being stopped from doing same. For PDP, a primary election was conducted before OBJ won. Besides, have you gotten an "MKO" like the SW got before 1999 elections?

You'd better chosen the path of humility to gain the heart of the Yorubas by doing what you're supposed to do rather than this flagrant display of arrogance and blackmail. Humility and Pride are like Light and Darkness.

Udopasa:
Obasanjo didn't do any work.

If the contest was left for only Obasanjo and Late Ekwueme, Obasanjo would have received the greatest defeat of his life.

So, how many candidates contested with OBJ then? Can we now have the contest left alone for an "Obasanjo" and an "Ekwueme" so that that Obasanjo can receive the greatest defeat of his life?

Udopasa:
we do not consider the Yorubas as a threat. We only demand that in the demand for rotation, equity must be of top most priority.

Can you define equity?

From what you are saying, no Yoruba should contest the primaries but should step down for the Ibos. Have the Ibos ever stepped down for a Yoruba man in such a manner before?

APGA is like the AD of 1998 and no Yoruba is stopping Ibo from contesting on the platform of APGA. PDP is still there, I doubt if any Yoruba has come out to contest the primary election in PDP even though Ekwueme contested in the primary with OBJ back then. Even in APC, where the Ibos appear to be late comers, no Yoruba is stopping Ibos from contesting.

Equity is do to others what you would that they do to you. If you cannot step down for the Yorubas in a primary election, then asking them to step down for you is as good as saying they are FOOLISH, WEAK, and LAZY as some of you have always taunted them.

Isn't this the same Umeh that said in 2011 that it was a sin to give the Speakership position to the S/W:

https://www.nairaland.com/672465/sin-give-south-west-speakership-umeh

Why ask for what you can't give?

Udopasa:


Yea, that's the kinda "election" we want for equity's sake.

Then contest. If it's not by contest, then it's not an election.

SwissMass:
They are praying on the posters, court will release them unless they want to play GOD, it is a simple explanation, the poster was not pasted, it was held for GOD to see not for human, makka is a place of communing with GOD, so they commune by holding up the posters, simple

It's still borne out of DESPERATION. Even drinking water excessively can have repercussions.

Illuminatiship:
i nor be Yoruba nor ibo but I prefer Nnamdi kanu to be president of nigeria,compared to that dilapidated tinubu of yours.

" I NOR be..." Who really cares?

LaboPolitics:
I love the assertive nature of Igbo leaders nowadays. Ask for the both tickets to go South East, as it went to the south west in 1999. They are clearly getting the message that I have been passing.

If the SW cannot allow equity to reign but think they can continue to look for ways to insult Ndigbo and reap politically from anti-Igbo sentiments, then let the presidency remain in the north. SW will not be president in 2023, they've taken their turn already.

Simple and clear.

Are you simply being scared of contesting with the people you consider as being lazy, weak, and slimmy? Do you think if the country breaks today or is restructured the SW will suffer? Pride goes before destruction.

You cannot come to the SW, be allowed to make money and live peacefully only to rise up and declare that their ancestral home is a no-man's land, even when you have not become the president.

How are they sure you will not initiate a law to take over their land when eventually you become the president after the manner of the Decree 34 of 1966?

Udopasa:


If you ain't being stupid, why didn't you ask OBJ in 1998/9 to go to AD to contest or you weren't born then?

Exactly. Ibo candidates are allowed to context in the primaries the way other candidates contested with OBJ then. APGA can form an alliance with another party like SDP or PDP for another Ibo candidate to contest the way AD formed an alliance with APP at the presidential level at that time that led to the candidacy of Olu Falae. Weak, lazy, slimmy Yorubas, as they are often taunted, cannot be a threat to the MIGHTY and GREAT Ibos.

lagosrd:
None of them should attend such evil meeting. Akande is tinubu right hand man and osoba too is an ass licker of Tinubu.

These so called elders are the real problems of south west. They only confess true federalism with mouth and have been hiding behind the corridors of power for donkey years and now virtually all of them have their children or family members to replace them.

Osoba that fought Amosu ��� so you think amosu is a dumbass abi,

There is no need for any meeting except that tinubu should allow younger younger Yorubas to run . Awolowo was more sound and healthy than most if these so called elders during his time . Not this conglomerate of old people.

Respect for the late Sage.

lagosrd:
None of them should attend such evil meeting. Akande is tinubu right hand man and osoba too is an ass licker of Tinubu.

These so called elders are the real problems of south west. They only confess true federalism with mouth and have been hiding behind the corridors of power for donkey years and now virtually all of them have their children or family members to replace them.

Osoba that fought Amosu ��� so you think amosu is a dumbass abi,

There is no need for any meeting except that tinubu should allow younger younger Yorubas to run . Awolowo was more sound and healthy than most if these so called elders during his time . Not this conglomerate of old people.

Respect for the late sage.

PHIPEX:
Akande should tell them all to step down for the Igbos and unite the South, Anything outside this is a waste of time

Are you being scared of contesting with a people that have been taunted as slimmy, weak, and lazy?

Rawtruth1:
South west should read this below �

Selfishness of the South west will Kell the entire South and subjugate us further.

Since you wouldn't allow equity, fairness and justice for the south east, let the north have it all

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I don't understand, has the SW said SE should not contest? Or are you assuming that if someone from SW contests with someone from SE, the SW guy will win? Then where is the so-much noised competitive spirit? Are you conceding defeat from the people you enjoy taunting as weak and lazy?

TheNiceGuy:
A stich in time......

'83
'93
'23

Should the ticket elude South West, Oshinbajo Fayemi and Amosun should get ready to be stoned and have their name written in our Black book


Nairaland bot

Those who turned blind eyes because of religious affiliation and because of desperation to enter Aso Rock when their kinsmen and kinswomen were being killed, maimed, and raped are the real BETRAYERS.

Those planning to bring sharia into a region that has been known over the years as being cosmopolitan are the real BETRAYERS.

kelly72:


While you wait for an answer ask yourself, why are all the 10 not Yorubas who schooled in the Southwest?

You have 6 zones in a country and a zone produces 6 or 7 of the best 10. What are the other zones doing?

Conrod:
Are you saying that he's eligible for the obaship of lagos,wont you point to the east should he dare.

He must have lied about his state of origin. You can ask him, his parents, or his guidians. What he filled for JAMB as his state of origin must have been what JAMB published.

Great2017:

No, equity is the opposite. To what point are all these?

So if equity is the opposite of all these, why are you supporting those attributes? If you have not heard about the no-man's land saga in Nigeria, then you may not have been in touch with the country for a long time Sir/Madam. Someone can't be shouting for equity when his own middle name is Injustice.

okeyfrank:
Envy, hatred and jealousy

They know that the Igbos are far more intelligent, more industrious, more achieving

Igbo presidency will have to reverse their age-long action of 'keeping the Igbos down at all cost'

But they fail to see the opportunity in allowing the Igboman to lead Nigeria to their God's given greatness for the good of all..

Nomatter how bad Nigeria gets to, Igboman would definitely succeed better than any other tribe in Nigeria.


Shame!!!

Then use your most intelligence to get what you want.

Daveconsult007:
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So those who can't put their resources across other ethnic area have patriotism?

What can be more valuable to humanity if not resources both human and material?

So Hausa and fulanis who can't bring out their money to buy land and do cow business in my land have patriotism?

I hold ibos for what they do not what they say.

Patriotism is an action not a verbel expression, ibos match theirs with their hard earned money

Finance and Investment 101, you invest where your investment can be secured in addition to bringing returns. Those who invest in an insecure environment though may have high returns are only playing with fire. Why should someone have a fertile ground but will be contemplating of going to lease a land in the desert for cultivation, a land that is even abhorred by its owners? Are they doing land by barter?