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Suit yourself. But don't come here yapping that Igbos states are lagging behind when the indices say otherwise. Also you are unable to tell me the states that are doing better than Igbo states amongst your stu-pid Yoruba states (aside Lagos). I don't buy your crap.ok?

I have no doubt that the original poster is a sham. He must be a veteran nairalander who, in wanting to cause mischief, registered with a new name. No first-time poster will come here and start spewing rubbish from the start. I am inclined to believe that bigdoo =Kobojunkie.

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You are an idi.ot. The post I am responding to compared Igbo states to Yoruba states. What did you want me to to? Compare Igbo states to the moon?

Kobojunkie:

Are you certain?

http://hdrstats.undp.org/en/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs_NGA.html

I am not here to COMPARE States as you are willing. I already gave you the reasons for why I would expect more from Ibo states than I would any other state in Nigeria. Unless you are going to come up with a state with the same level of resources available. Till then, I am not willing to compare apples and acorns here. Pointing to Lagos in the way you have above is to me your way of creating more excuses for why I should not hold leaders and people in Iboland responsible for the situation, not in Lagos, but in Ibo Land.

Did you look at the graph in your link? Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) is at the lowest rung of the ladder and Nigeria is just only slightly better than the SSA. Did you also notice that some countries we typically deride beat us in some of the indices? No, you canot single IGBO states out but must expect the same of others, especially Yoruba. They and Igbos are the ones claiming superiority. So they must be judged equally. Igbo states lack development, like other Nigerian states. However, they do not lag behind more than one or two other Nigerian states (Lagos, Rivers, and may be, may be, Delta).

Can anyone in all honesty attempt to compare Nigeria to any of the countries in the developed world? Should Nigeria not be compared with its peers?

All nigerian states are lagging behind is a straw man argument. You must relate them to something. Against whom are they lagging behind? Haiti, Sudan, Afghanistan, USA, Laos, UK, China, etc. There must be some comparison. Nothing stands in a vacuum.

Read my comments more carefully.

Development means many different things to different people. For some, it is the number, size and shape of houses in a place. To others, it is the smoothness of the motorways. Yet for others like myself, it is the totality of the indices that are used to measure humanity including but not limited to

physical infrastructure
freedom of speech/not bonded by some savage cultures
human development indices such as poverty, literacy, health, food and feeding patterns, etc
treatment of human beings including women folk and children
GDP par capita
industrialization
others

In all of these, Igbo states fare very well in relation to the other 29 states of Nigeria. They come tops in many of these development indices and one or two Igbo states even beat Lagos in some of these indices.

So, Igbo states lack development, like all states of Nigeria, but they are not lagging behind other comparative Nigerian states. They should, nonetheless, be doing much better than they are doing, given the abundance of talented human resources they have.
Overall, Lagos tops in several human development indices and that is because it is a melting pot for all shades of people.

TewMuch

If 10 Igbos lag behind, 1000 Yorubas do same. If you must be reminded, migration is Igbo culture which has nothing to do with hunger. Please tell me why Yoruba also migrate to other places including Igboland? Or do you ignorantly presume the traffick is not both ways? Talking about hunger, for sure there is hunger all over Nigeria but the one in Igboland has not elevated like the one in Yorubaland. Nowhere in Igboland do you find young people begging for food with plates as in Yorubaland (the pic from Osun State). Amajiri syndrome of southern naija.

Again, I direct you to these sites and the ones contained therein

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-237534.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-373873.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-36515.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=355230.msg4968328#msg4968328
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371485.0.html

typical ijebu town. look beyond the persons, look at the buildings

Kobojunkie:

In every measurable indices as well, Nigeria as a country is doing great. But the minute you start to consider the reality of the situation, you get to understand why people in and from Nigeria do not believe those indices are indications of the reality found in the country. Apply the same here and you might understand the @Poster's disappointment in Ibo states.

FALSE. SHOW ME ONE DEVELOPMENT INDEX WHERE NIGERIA IS DOING WELL AND AGAINST WHICH COUNTRIES? NIGERIA IS A BASKET CASE AND ITS COMPONENTS ARE THE SAME. WOULD YOU ALSO AGREE THAT WITH ALL THE BILLIONS LAGOS GETS FROM TAXES AND OIL MONEY, THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT COMMENSURATE?

You will agree that Igbo claim to superiority is in response to Yoruba claim to the same thing. You and I are witnesses to these claims and counter-claims. So are Yoruba states, with all their claims, lagging behind or not? Or is it only Igbos that should be so judged?

Kobojunkie

Well if you say Igbo state have not lived up to expection based on their fame in may different endevours, you are correct. But to say they are lagging behind is false because the comparison made by the OP is false, ab initio. Whom are they lagging behind? Oyo, Ondo, Osun, Ekiti, Ogun, Edo, northern states? Who? Out of 36 Nigerian states, in every measurable indices that we have provided here, 4 of 5 Igbo states are in the first ten, always. So in whose behind are they? I think they got consumed by the nigerian syndrome.

Kobojunkie:


Thank you for being honest!

I do not need your thanks. The question is do other states lack development? If so, why should Igbo states be expected to be so different?

It is also COMPLETELY INCORRECT that Igbo states lag behind other states, except the few I have noted and for obvious reasons.
All Ijebu towns, despite their position in yorubaland are as drab as Mbawsi in Isi-alangwa.

WTF; they should be decieved into the amnesty and rounded up afterwards for the deserving punishment. You cannot eat your cake and have it.

I completely agree that Igbo states lack development. But they are not lagging behind any SW (aside Lag) and any SS state (aside PH-Rivers). Akwa Ibom has almost no industry except for Mobil and the Aluminum smelter co. The paper mill at Oku Iboku is dead. Many of the okada riders in Aba are from Akwa Ibom. Asaba in Delta is only just developing and if anything, is an Igbo enclave.

Ok here is how it goes. Let's put all paper statistics aside for a minute. Most of us have travelled to very many parts of Nigeria and can make comparisons based on what we have seen. I have traversed the lenght and breadth of the SW. I make bold to say that apart from Lagos, no SW state is more developed than Anambra, Enugu, Imo and Abia. I can sacrifice Ebonyi, which is a laggard Igbo state comparable to Ekiti, Ondo and Osun. In Ibadan, capital of Oyo, one of the largest states in Nigeria, the only industrial area is Oluyole. Given the population of Ibadan, the few Indian companies there cannot serve 0.00001% of the pop. The Industrial areas in Enugu and Aba more than compensate for that. The only place in Ogun is Agbara Industrial Estate and that is more than well taken care of by Nnewi. As for private buildings, we also know that the houses you find in Anambra, Owerri and parts of Abia state can only be found in Lagos. Let any one who has a counter opinion bring their experience out for discussion. If we bring the existing stats in the equation, we also know what that states; and I am not talking about Wiki stats.

''Credit Suisse and General Electric are joint founding investors in GIP with each committing $500mm of investment capital''


What is Bayo's own founding contribution? Small fry

I own millions of shares in banks. Does that make me the owner of the banks?

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Imbe-cile

Every bank, be they commercial or investment, is owned by shareholders. But does being a part owner make anyone the owner? If the major shareholders of GIP, GE and Credit Suisse, sell off or withdraw their investment, what next?

He is probably holding some 0.001% of the shareholding and you guys are flapping your mouths.

He does not own GIP. QED. End of story

The kind of things that happen in ngbatiland? Hhahah! An Yoruba woman gave birth to a tortoise sometime ago.

More like nigerian banker managing other people's money on behalf of Credit suisse and GE. Average achievement

Sefago:

At least from now you will not throw Bayo Ogunlesi's name on anybody's face. He is just a mere manager of funds. Does not own what he manages. There are millions of board chairs all over and they get booted out if need be. Bayo is not different. He was also sufficiently deconstructed on another Nigerian website when your ngbatis tried to turn him into a demi-god. You brought up Kase, we brought up Emeka Offor. Who else do you have? Obj?lol

You argued with me on simple genetics, I beat you hands down, you argued on economics I beat you hands down, you turned to cannibalism, I hammered you there. What else?