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[quote author=hooohaaa post=74783569] Only God decides what door is closed. |
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brosiye99:As beggars condemned to begging for the rest of their miserable lives. |
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Daewoods:Now people are willing to go to court for 20yrs maybe we have to wait some more till the pensions stop comming mayb when it's late. We all have our choices we can chose to fight or we can tell ourselves that FG can't pay 20yrs and remain beggars forever. Your choice. 1 Like |
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Am glad now that we are beginning to face the reality. Pension is no justice to ex nitel staff. This is our second chance we must be sure what we want. Personally 20yrs buyout is the way foward for me. Anybody who is scared of mismanaging it can fix deposite but always having to plead with perhaps Ptad for prompt payment of the monthly pension each month is basically living under a curse. Let the payment be made once and for all at most two instalments. Please we must be united on this. 2 Likes |
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arewaa:With all due respect Sir. What is your interest in this matter? I heavily doubt you are ex Nitel worker. 1 Like |
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I don't know how people think. What should be rightly done to Nitel ex staff? Isn't it bulk pay as the case of Nepa airways etc. Why would an overzealous Ptad enrol nitel staff for pension? Is it the right thing? Is it really what the ex staff want all I can see is that they are just hijacking the opportunity to draw more praises to themselves and perhaps certify their personal interests because it would be unrealistic to say that a country as Nigeria does not have 200billion to pay Nitel ex staff. Who told us FG hasn't the money? My anger is on nitel ex staff for not fighting for what they want I wonder what individuals who are supporting PTAD stand to gain. It's not right to pay pension to ex workers of a liquidated company even by law. And mind you PTAD existed even as at GEJ time why didn't they settle pension liabilities? But Buhari made it a priority and he doesn't know what pattern of settlement each parastatal deserve that's why PTAD and BPE are established but we can see what some individuals are doing because they have a mandate to settle workers liabilities. Let the ministry of finance tell us they don't have the money then we work on a modality of payment if they pay the money in part let them tell us. Pension is fraud. 1 Like |
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Which particular union? segzy3: |
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arewaa:I guess am now a fraudster. Am glad with what's happening to airways just so that nitel ex staff would see for themselves what opportunity they missed because they were blind to common facts of life. Like this guy who's astonished the way he was addressed by me but doesn't even take a second to think what he says. Anybody supporting monthly pension is just daft and little minded full stop. Good thing I just learnt some ex staff had d courage and didn't show up for ptad verification. Let's see where that gets us. Some people are just cursed no Matter what u do they'll always tend to mediocrity. |
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As you all see on that rely, Ptad would have placed airways on pension if not their union. But Nitel staff kicked against the only union that stood for their interest and was quick to sign up for peanuts like Esau selling their rights. My advice is to storm Ptad Twitter page letting them know they can't play a fast one on us. I pity people who would remain docile on this issue lemme remind you pension can't be more than 50k per month and knowing you'll always beg for d peanut. How many of us are ready for stories like we are awaiting release of funds by FG Like we are already hearing this early morning all the way from Jan. Even during this present administration. we need to see clearer we have to do something now or never peanut won't help anybody given our conditions I plead that we see the truth and act now that we still can we don't need physical protest just media storming and I bet you the whole world would feel the impact. Who is ready? Please indicate so we can coordinate this media campaign. Airways can't be paid bulk and someone would be telling us pension is best option for Nitel aren't we all same Nigerians with equal rights? Who's in please indicate 1 Like |
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arewaa: What is this one talking about? We all made a mistake going for that verification. If there was a better option as bulk payment that's where we should channel our energy. Why is this one talking like he is not Nigerian and don't understand what pension is all about. I don't believe it's too late at least nobody has been paid a dime.Sharon is a wicked person I don't understand what her interest is on the matter. But whatever airways did to get bulk settlement that has better be our new compass if not I'll still be here to scorn people who have lost their brains to think pension peanut would do them any good. I don't know for other ex staff but for people I know loads of debt are already killing ex staff nobody should b mentioning pension. |
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I was almost at tears when I saw the reply below. Nigerians are captains of their own demise.
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Mpower: Take your campaign to Ptad Twitter page. Let then know we want bulk settlement like airways if not we would all be sharing our views and that's all. |
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stahrkhid:Of cause they should pay in bulk. I don't understand how people now cherish pension more isn't that a curse or something anyone who can't manage his can fix deposite it. I don't understand why people are happy to b enrolled in monthly pension in a country like Nigeria where nothing but curroption is consistent. I pray Nitel ex staff receive common sense IJN. Airways was also liquidated. |
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It was always a thing of choice. Airways staff would be settled bulk but Nitel staff are too chicken to pronounce their desire. 1 Like |
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BlakKluKluxKlan:I personally feel most of these guys supporting and beating the drum for ptad all have personal interests on this matter. Interests beyond the monthly payment because I can't believe there is a single Nitel staff who has gone through though years of unpaid pension or entitlement who would settle for monthly pension. How old are the youngest of them who were disengaged with more than 10yrs in service? How many more years do they have to live out here on earth that they would be pleased with the term "pension for life"? And mind you, in a country like Nigeria. We only have a topic now because this particular regime made pension matters one of their priority. Each day am disheartened that there are no longer men with substance who understand what it means to stand up for their right. Lump sum is our due by the law but everybody is quick to give up and chicken up to everlasting suffering. 99percent of nitel ex staff are in abject poverty and it doesn't seem like they'ld be coming out of it anytime soon, all a product of ignorance and cowardice. I wish everyone well. |
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obynolucy:But Atens warned us to avoid the verification. I'll rather say we chose what we got. So let's not start complaining. |
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I only wish we took necessary actions when we had the chance. |
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At this point everyone has to relax till August. we don't have a choice anymore, a lot of lies in the air. most of the info even on this tread are propaganda. 1 Like |
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brosiye99:Sorry it was rather observed in various units that ineligible pensioners were turned down. I don't know where your getting this info from. |
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Confused people! What's the aim of verification? Wasn't 22k eligible nitel pensioners verified? If they weren't qualified would they be verified in the first place, I felt that was the aim of the verification. How come after such names must have been successfully verified ptad is now saying they're going with 13k? Can't u see even Ptad don't know what they are doing. Isn't it glaring yet? Let's still wait till August its just by the corner. |
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Confusion everywhere. I warned you guys of Ptad but we wouldn't listen. Nigerians and dormancy |
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brosiye99:Who defeated the battle? Well that's why Nigeria has remained with its problem because people are quick to accept defeat. You've already accepted defeat. How do you expect to succeed in life with such mindset maybe you have children whom you don't care about their future. Same problem the entire country faces selfishness 1 Like |
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brosiye99:Such parastatals were privatised thus it is not up to ptad to pay them any pension benefits but rather BPE who short changed all of them by paying 5yrs instead of 20yrs. Ptad is only meant to monitor such payments but madam Sharon is not being sincere and pensioners from such parastatals do not really know their rights. Cases have been worn on the same matter from industrial court. Ptad knows better that paying pensioners from such parastatals would only bring a calm for now but the dust would definitely be raised in future. I guess that's why they are being diplomatic with the payments because sources have it that the cash for the lump payment is ready and has been available even before the verification. 1 Like |
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The way I laugh at frustrated Nitel workers who were quick to sell their birth rights like Esau believing federal Government had no money to pay them 20yrs lump sum. My question now is, would you say the same thing as at now? But you've all got verified for monthly peanuts from ptad which is not even visible yet after five months of verification. I hope your lives are better now? Fight for what is rightly yours, you wouldn't. We say we have bad government but we have accepted to take whatever trash they toss at us and anyone who stands up for you becomes your enemy. Well, keep waiting for your peanuts as you get even more frustrated. Finally if we didn't turn up for the verification the way we did maybe by now we would have gotten greater audience from a Government that claims to be just and transparent. 20yrs is our right, we can't settle for less after these sufferings and delay else we inherite worse curse than Essau. 1 Like |
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columnar:We really don't get it. Ptad is not solely responsible for payment of entitlements to ex staff of a privatised company. This is the responsibility of BPE yes ptad can supervise the process but the payment is the job of bpe. The president only gave ptad the mandate to address pension liability in the country they used it as an opportunity to bite more than they can chew. If you follow ptad twitter handle you'll notice their last post in which they said to have gotten an approval letter from the ministry of finance and this came just as oluti's publication began to make the rounds thus using the ministry of finance as a back up and we all know that this issue is an employee/employer disagreement which could be very confusing and not everybody is knowledgeable in that arear especially as it involves a privatized company therefore anybody can ignorantly give approval. Well we will find out which holds more ground the rule of law or politics and politicians. |
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Sir, Nitel case is quite different from all the other cases you mentioned. The facts are there with supporting documents both from the liquidation. Do you think the Federal Government wants to form a habit of disregarding the ECOWAS court? Certainly at some point they would have to create an equillibrum by accepting ECOWAS court ruling believe me they can't afford to make ECOWAS court insignificant. Nitel case is going to be that breakthrough given that the funds for our lump payments are available and all these while some individuals have been enriching themselves from bank interests the funds yield. Everybody is at liberty at what choice they are to make its all a thing of individual strength and faith. Please note ptad has even mentioned they are not responsible for any outstanding pension so be careful with your expectations. |
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When faced with two options, getting your bulk money or being placed on monthly pension. Its so amazing that people prefer monthly pension and I only wonder if they are truely Nigerians. If not for the sake of the present president who has placed a mandate on all pension liabilities what would have been the faith of pensioners, was pension not a lost cause in this country? Yet people want to dwel in the past where someone can easily squander your pension fund and you start all over again to hope for another messiah who would make pension payment a priority. Please give me my money and let me be responsible for my own demise. People are heading for grater destruction and they are happy. |
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That's the problem we are facing today. How can you work for years without being paid what u laboured for. Now they want to give you peanut, your not even willing to put up a fight because you've waited years without nothing.Yes we have all suffered but how can we sell our right like Esau? Mark my word, for those who wish to settle for less may you find peace but we have not suffered for peanuts. They can go to hell with their peanuts the fight continues till we lose if that would be it. 1 Like |
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segzy3:That is our stand. FG can not intimidate us, if we don't allow them to. |
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GangsterRevd:Am not suprised, because Ptad is playing a fast one by including the disengaged staff on pension payroll. The question is what then happens to the outstanding 20years lump sum? Nitel was privatised which qualifies its staff who were in service and subsequently disengaged as a result of the privatisation to a 25years terminal benefit(not monthly pension) this is an international practise and Nigeria is a signatory to the agreement. Now ptad wants to thus that by the side and do what they like, well its contempt of court. Let's just watch what happens at the end. |
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So sorry for Nitel disengaged who think ptad would pay any arrears or 20yrs lump sum. Sorry to dash your hopes but its not the train we've been waiting for. The fight is not worn yet and we have to be cautious. |
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Please who has credible information as to if lump sums were paid to disengaged or if nitel disengaged are to expect lump sum. I.e the much debated 20years. Thanks anyone |
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