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Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 5:49am On Oct 15, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Where? Just show me where! Did he say mountain is his child? Or goat? Or ant? Where in ur bible did he say they are his children? Not in one scrpture does God say this! If it were true u would be able to see scripture littered everywhere with God saying "My child, snake", "my child, stone", everywhere! U wont have to look for just one obscure scipture in the whole bible to try prove your point for something God always does. By the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses every word is established. Way too weak to stand up in a court of law |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 10:11pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: I'll really love to see where God calls a stone and a goat his children. This sounds strange to me, certainly not my own God Mountains being "born" was of course figurative, which is why u had to quote the NIV 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 9:07pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: lol mountain is a child of God. Na your own God born goat too? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 9:03pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: oh I certainly can. And I will... 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 8:26pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: i love this! Means an ant is born of God too, as it "came through the same process" As is a goat. And a stone. Following the same logic, all of these are children of God |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 7:26pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: 2 ppl liked it. Not a sinlge sripture backing it up saying "he is only begotten because he is only created..." Observe that the only true support for "begotten = created" is the watchtower 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Yahushua Is Begotten And Not Created Son Of יהוה by Mikee19(m): 6:57pm On Oct 14, 2022 |
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Phones / Re: What Do You Know About 'my Area' Data Plan On Airtel by Mikee19(m): 12:59pm On Jul 28, 2022 |
stephens2012: Did u eventually do this subscription? Did it give you double data like 20gb main data and 20gb bonus data, or all 40gb was main data? This is important to me to know prior to subscribing... |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 11:26pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
I'll be back pls bear with me cornelboy: MaxInDHouse: |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 5:05pm On Jul 17, 2022 |
Janosky see this thing isn't hard. If Jesus was truly doing what you ppl say he was doing, then it won't be difficult to see him EACH DAY saying "Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah" every time so as to make that name known to his disciples. We won't have to be depending on quoted scripture only. Don't u think he will like to use the name all the time every chance he got? Like every time o! Every second of everyday! That we don't see this happening should prove it enough to you that you're wrong! Not even ONCE! Every time quoted scripture that the translators put "Jehovah" inside! That doesn't even appear in the original manuscript. Very very weak argument 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 4:40pm On Jul 17, 2022 |
Janosky: Sigh... Ayam tired. My tired is tired. I can't be repeating myself over and over again now. Some ppl just want to win argument at all cost. Did you really read what i have been saying or you're just reading to reply so that you "win"? This is the last time I'll respond to you on this matter cos you're not reading, you just want to reply and "win". Doesn't matter to you that you're clearly wrong! Lemme again quote myself: Mikee19: Let me explain my quote, for the last time, in plain English: Shey you see that scripture i quoted ehn, we know that the ppl at that time DID NOT pronounce the name Jehovah! They had tetragrammar in their scrolls! Not a single one of them ever called God using that name "Jehovah" in their whole life before! Even when quoting scripture! So who "helped" them to put that name "Jehovah" inside for them? The Nwt translators! They changed what they said and helped them put "Jehovah" inside even tho we know they didn't pronounce God's name themselves! Because this is a quoted scripture from the old Testament, the translators reckoned that the name Jehovah belongs inside it. So the translators THEMSELVES are the source of "Jehovah" inside that passage, not the ppl themselves who spoke! This will also therefore hold for ANYBODY quoting old Testament scripture as well! The translators will help them put in "Jehovah" even if that's not what the original person said, reasoning that it belongs there as it is a quoted scripture! Because of this trickery (that's what it really is, trickery), I made sure to SPECIFY that I WANT NO QUOTED SCRIPTURE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT that the JW translators preformed such trickery with their words. Yet that's exact what you brought again, ANOTHER QUOTED SCRIPTURE from the old Testament! This will be my last response to you on this matter. You have no proof, and aren't reading my responses. I can't be repeating myself. Cheers 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 11:35pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Janosky:SMH.... Enjoy! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 11:05pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Janosky: That's the best you can do? Using a TRANSLATION by somebody else rather than the original manuscript? It's official. You have NO proof, but will rather chase shadows. Suit yourself! Taken from jw own website: "Elias Hutter was born in 1553... In 1587, Hutter produced a Hebrew edition of what is called the Old Testament... Hutter also printed what is commonly called the New Testament, with the text in 12 languages. This edition was published in Nuremberg in 1599 and is often referred to as the Nuremberg Polyglot. Hutter wanted to include a Hebrew-language translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. But he said that even if he “had been willing to pay a fortune” for such a Hebrew translation, the search would have been in vain. * So he decided to translate the New Testament from Greek into Hebrew himself." 1599 translation Smh! Even in that pic, they said "the divine name as it appears in different TRANSLATIONS"! As in TRANSLATIONS of the original thing! It does NOT appear in the original manuscript! Only in translations by others! But sure, chase shadows... 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 10:22pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Janosky: What if he did? What actual evidence do you have otherwise? Janosky: I have responded in FULL to this earlier: Mikee19: Janosky: And you know this how? Actually it's up to you to accept very sound points I've made on this topic. You say things with no actual proof. But that's fine by you. You can call your dad by his name ba? God cannot protect his word from changes by random ppl ba? Yet this makes sense to you, and you have confidence that only that one was changed, he was powerless to protect it from changes in that one, but all others, no problem. You cannot see how you're really challenging the power of God Almighty. How maybe other parts were also changed undetected. No problem, suit yourself |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 8:55pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
cornelboy: You asked ME? ? ? WHERE? ? ? Pls always know who you address. You never asked me any question I didn't answer. If you know you did pls link to it. This is such a simple question, why would I avoid it? Also, ppl are at liberty to not respond to everything they see. m sure u know this. There are so many things a person thinks of on his own, than to answer everything they see esp if you don't call them directly. Next time pls don't say stuff like this again unless u actually ask me! Second, it takes a lot to type. It also takes an honest heart to read it all, if one really wants to be sure of what they know. It's not too huge a price to pay to read a lot if u know u don't know it all and your salvation may be at stake, no matter what. To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity... You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same. Now over to you. Respond to my earlier comment as I've now responded to yours. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 2:41pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Hebrew scriptures! (when i keep asking for GREEK SCRIPTURES relevant to the new covenant to show that's how we're to address him in this day and age when he's our Father, smh. You call your father by his own first name?) 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 1:16pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Let's see your scriptures: NKJV Mt 6:9: "⁹ In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name." Did it say "your name JEHOVAH"? NKJV Joh 17:6,26: "⁶ “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. … ²⁶ And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”" Does Jesus "your name JEHOVAH"? If i tell you, your dad has a good name, do i mean that his name "Jeff" (or whatever it is) is a good name, or i mean what he has done, his person, his character? The word "name" DOES NOT only mean a literal name, it is also all that a person is! So on what grounds do these Jesus was saying "your name JEHOVAH" instead of "all that you are"? Isn't it even more correct to say "say, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be your person" and "I have made manifest to them all about who you are and represent"? Can I ask you just one favour? Please please please and please, just gimme only ONE time where it is recorded in the entire gospels that Jesus called God "Jehovah" to "manifest the name" to his disciples? Only one pls! We are trying to test your hypothesis that Jesus "made manifest the name JEHOVAH", instead of the person of the Father? Wait... Not even a single place? Can u now see just how weak your argument is! Not even a single place Jesus used the word "Jehovah"! I'm not talking of any place where Jesus quoted scripture and the JW translators helped him to change it to "Jehovah" there like they did in this place o: Mat 21:9 NWT As for the crowds, those going ahead of him and those following kept crying out: "Save, we pray, the Son of David! Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name! Save him, we pray, in the heights above!" Because this sort of thing is trickery. The people at that time were NOT using the name JEHOVAH, they even had the tetragrammar in their scrolls to ensure they didn't pronounce that name! So how come the translators now put it in here by trickery? I want no such trickery. Just ONE place Jesus is using the name "Jehovah" with his disciples in "making manifest the name to them", while not quoting scripture It doesn't exist. Because Jesus did no such thing. The way he "made manifest to them his name" was in teaching them about God, who he is, and what he represents. You cannot prove this otherwise, no such thing exists 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Catholic Church by Mikee19(m): 8:13am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Sakir: Ok I thought hard and long about how to respond to u cos in truth I dey fear the Catholic church. They are very evil. Them dey kill person. I won't even put too much of my own stuff out here again... They are a fraud of a religion. They lie that they're the first church Jesus brought. I can readily show this to be false, but again I'm being careful. It's paganism disguised as Christianity. I asked if you're born again cos they are not. Not even the Pope. They don't believe in that. What they call being born again is water baptism by sprinkling water on somebody (not even immersion), even in infants who dunno anything, and tell them they're born again that way. I'm sure u don't wanna be a born again person where almost everyone isn't born again and spiritually dead. They also have a very terrible history, but they're trying to rewrite it all, just like how dem rebrand Buhari. Most Catholics dunno their own history and don't bother to find out 1) See this video of how this person was bold to challenge a Catholic bishop to his face. Of course all his facts are accurate. Read them up if in doubt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRsaxXrjk3w 2) Download these comics by a former Jesuit Catholic priest that confirms all this man said and goes on to reveal how truly evil they are (They killed him in the end after numerous attempts) https://archive.org/details/albertoseries Cheers |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 7:13am On Jul 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse pls try to at least read up on things carefully to reply appropriately. What I responded to specified GREEK scriptures for a reason... The rabbis of old did indeed replace the name given to them by Moses for God in the scriptures with tetragrammar because they felt it was too Holy to be called in full. It was NOT the Catholics or any professing Christian who did this! That, again, is why i referred to GREEK scriptures! Even then it wasn't "changed undetected"; everyone knew it was God's name then when they read it. And in our bibles it is replaced with LORD in all capitals so we can identify it. Again, not undetected. But all that becomes a very different matter entirely in the, again, like I said, GREEK SCRIPTURES! There is absolutely no hint of tetragrammar at all in there at all! Not even one! The word used all through is the Greek for "Lord" (not all capitals unlike the Hebrew scriptures). Now if like cornelboy claimed this was actually God's name "Jehovah" or tetragrammar, that was changed by the ppl who handled the original manuscript, such that no trace even exists in all the whole manuscripts in the whole world anymore, then this is calling God powerless! Because unlike in the Hebrew scriptures, there is no hint of any change WHATSOEVER! This is a claim I will never make of the Almighty living most powerful God! It is a very very serious claim against God Almighty! No, nothing was changed! The word there is "Lord", you can even verify by looking at the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses yourself! Nobody can change anything in God's word undetected, how then can we trust God's word? It is hard for your organization to accept that we no longer need the name "Jehovah", "Yahweh", or whatever the tetragrammar stood for in this dispensation. How do you address your own father? Can u call him by his own name? Doesn't that destroy the relationship you will have with him is instead of calling him "dad" you call him by his first name? And yet you think that's cool with God! When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, he said, say, "our Father who art in heaven"! This makes God a PERSONAL FATHER to you! We have a closer relationship with God through Jesus than the Israelites did. That name is NOT relevant to the New Testament church. You need to be born again so that u can have that close relationship with God and call him Father rather than Jehovah! 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Mikee19(m): 3:45am On Jul 16, 2022 |
cornelboy: I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this. Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else? Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging! Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered. 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by Mikee19(m): 5:08pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Op u believe the Bible right? NKJV Lu 11:9-13: "⁹ “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. ¹⁰ For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. ¹¹ If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? ¹² Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? ¹³ If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”" Jesus words. Not mine. He said to ask and you'll receive, because EVERYONE who asks receives. See it in verse 10. He wasn't lying. There's not a single soul that will ask that won't receive unless Jesus lied! Then he proceeded to say, which human being denies his child of fish or bread you give them something else? That HOW MUCH MORE than that will God give to Holy Spirit to those who asks him! Notice that Jesus is talking about RECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT! Again, EVERYONE WHO ASKS MUST RECEIVE according to what Jesus himself said in this scripture! if you ask and don't receive, then either Jesus lied or you simply didn't take him at his word to receive! Everyone is everyone. You MUST receive! Again, notice he called the Holy Spirit a "good gift", saying if as bad as you are u know how to give good gifts to your children, God will give the Holy Spirit even more! "EVERYONE WHO ASKS RECEIVES"... There is nowhere in all the entire Bible, that anybody ever asked for the Holy Spirit, and didn't receive instantly. NOWHERE! Cornelius received before asking. John's disciples received immediately Paul laid hands and prayed The Samaritans received immediately Peter and John arrived to pray for them EVERYBODY received IMMEDIATELY THEY ASKED! Nobody had to wait at all in the Bible to receive at all having asked! It is UNSCRIPTURAL to be told to wait to receive when you ask because according to Jesus, EVERYONE who asks receives, and Jesus CANNOT lie! Yes people waited for different things in the Bible. The apostles waited in Jerusalem for the Holy Spirit to be poured out because he wasn't yet given. Not that they were paying to receive and didn't get it. That would be against Jesus' words The Samaritans waited for Peter and John to come to pray for them, not that they were busy praying for the Holy Spirit without receiving. That would be against Jesus' words... Nobody ever asked for the Spirit in the scripture and didn't receive! That would be against Jesus' words! EVERYONE who asks MUST receive because Jesus said so, and Jesus CANNOT lie! You won't find a scripture with ppl praying, crying, begging, seeking for the Spirit, because they didn't receive. EVERYONE who asks MUST receive! Nobody can provide a scripture where someone asked and didn't get it instantly, that will mean Jesus was lying... Ask and you will receive. This is Jesus' promise. No father withholds bread or fish from his child. God CANNOT withhold the Holy Spirit from you! You see, with all the promises in the scripture, there are those who don't see the fulfillment, but it doesn't mean God lied. The problem is NEVER God. It is ALWAYS the ppl involved. Don't judge God's word using ppl's experiences. Instead use God's word to DETERMINE your experiences! Let God be true, and every man a liar. Believe Jesus. Believe God. Everyone who asks receives. He wasn't lying. Believe him and receive today! |
Religion / Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by Mikee19(m): 6:01am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Lighthouse50: But u can discern (at least u should be able to). You can see who actually used scripture correctly. In this world there are many voices. Test the spirits to see which is of God |
Religion / Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 7:40pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
@MaxInDHouse no shade intended. I just genuinely feel that way sometimes. But thank God for the Holy Spirit who does his work! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 7:09pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Sometimes when I see his usage of scripture, fear dey catch me . I go just weak. Like how now? I typed a response to him in the morning, but it wiped away and I have to start afresh again, but i just weak. Some things are just basic English now, simple application of scripture! All his scripture was just out of place Well, my consolation is that it's not my work to do but the Holy Spirit Emusan: 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Are Seventy-two Virgins Waiting For Them In Islamic Paradise? by Mikee19(m): 4:29pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
AntiChristian: NKJV Ge 6:2,4: "² that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and ,they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. … ⁴ There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward...." 1) They married the women, by CEREMONY: NKJV Lu 17:26-27: "²⁶ And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: ²⁷ They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all." This speaks of eating, drinking, HAVING CEREMONY! They were literally taking wives and giving wives in this way! The Bible speaks of ACTUAL MARRIAGES. These are NOT angels doing this! 2) Those giants you speak of were truly there in the earth in those days, but you forget the Bible also says they were ALSO THERE AFTERWARDS AS WELL! In other words, AFTER THE DAYS OF THAT FLOOD they were there too, even after the flood destroyed the giants in this passage you speak of: NKJV Nu 13:33: "³³ There we saw the giants ( the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”" Nothing unusual. These CANNOT have been angels! AntiChristian: Now assuming they ask their captives : "which of you are virgins, if we find out you're lying we'll kill you", and separate out those who indicate they are, won't this scripture be fulfilled? Sigh... |
Religion / Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 12:47am On Jul 12, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Here you are, MaxInDHouse, telling Jokerman, that he ought to be RELYING on what he himself read in the Bible by himself, over what his sect teaches him. This means that what he reads himself from the Bible is RELIABLE (abi isn't that from where we get the word "rely"?). In order words, Jokerman can get RELIABLE INFORMATION all by himself without needing his "sect's" help. This means you're really saying that Jokerman can look at the Bible, all by himself, and correctly and reliably know what it is saying, with help from NO-ONE! Abi i don't understand English again ni? If this isn't what MaxInDHouse is saying, and i got it wrong, pls nairalanders help me! Now I know u are a very intelligent person. You were the best undercover CIA agent in the whole world! I'm sure you do not think Jokerman is more brilliant and you, do you? Why is Jokerman the only person who can by himself look at the Bible and get RELIABLE INFORMATION (= rely on what he reads himself), without any sort of external help, and you as brilliant as you are CANNOT? Why are JWs suddenly too dull to do what ordinary Jokerman is capable of? Why can they suddenly not get reliable information like him? What, by your own admission, he can do quite capably without help from no-one, you suddenly need the "apostles of your day" in the persons of the GB (who by the way are themselves uninspired), to now begin doing for you? Are you admitting that JWs are the dullest of the dull of this whole world? Yet with all this you won't see the folly of your ways... Check this out: NKJV Ro 16:10: "¹⁰ Greet Apelles, approved in Christ. Greet those who are of the household of Aristobulus." What does this verse mean? Does it mean that they are to CRUCIFY Apelles? Or that they should flog the family members of Aristobulus? NO! You read that verse and you know EXACTLY what it means! You don't need anybody to explain it for you! You are quite capable of seeing that Paul is just asking them to say hello to those ppl for him! Or: NKJV Ro 16:15: "¹⁵ Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them." Does this verse mean that Philologus is the messiah? Or that Olympas is a theology one must study to get eternal life? Again, NO! You read that verse you know EXACTLY what it means! You need nobody to explain it to you because you aren't that dull (unless you really are ) You realize that these things are LETTERS? That's why you see such things are greetings like these inside them! When someone writes you a letter, do you run around looking for someone else to explain and interpret the letter to you? NO! You read the letter, you know EXACTLY what it means! This is how it is with ANY letter! You know this! Why then must it be different with these too? They are just LETTERS! And you can read and understand what a letter is saying! I just demonstrated this to you with these few verses from those letters up there. You can read and understand perfectly that Paul is just asking them to greet other ppl, you cannot think otherwise! Why then does this same intelligence suddenly disappear when it comes to other parts of THE SAME LETTERS? You suddenly become unintelligent, and cannot understand again, and must have someone else interpret them for you. This is FOOLISHNESS! A letter can contain any topic at all in the world, football, science, cooking, anything! These merely happen to contain God's thoughts, yet THEY ARE STILL LETTERS regardless! If u can understand Paul's greeting, you are not so dumb not to understand the rest of the letter too! It remains a LETTER written like any other that you read normally and understand! When Paul wrote his letters, he didn't have to go and personally hand-deliver the letters by himself to the churches just so that he can tell them the meaning of what he wrote na! They will get the letter, read it, and understand it ALL BY THEMSELVES, sometimes even with Paul in prison! He DID NOT have to be there! Even the other apostles too weren't there cos they weren't sent to the Gentiles like Paul was! So which apostle will now interpret it for them? No-one! They will understand it BY THEMSELVES just as you understand a letter written to you! You claiming the GB stand in the apostles place is nonsense. They aren't anointed, and the apostles never did the work of interpretation of their own letters they wrote. They expected any normal human being to be able to read and understand a LETTER! And you can too; if Jokerman can do it so can you! Your GB are a fraud. You DO NOT need them to understand "scriptural letters", u can understand them on your own! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 12:46am On Jul 12, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't get the folly of this sort of thinking. If can't help you maybe I'll help someone else... MaxInDHouse: So much error contained in very little sentences! 1) The apostles were inspired to carry out their duties of teaching scripture, your GB are not. Not even close. Absolutely no basis for comparison whatsoever! 2) The apostles gave scripture! Your GB CANNOT give scripture, but only interpretation. If e sure for them, if they're really comparable to the apostles, let them try it too. They cannot, yet you say you believe (with no basis) that they serve as your apostles today, when they are in no class and are no match for the actual apostles! See anybody can give wrong interpretation! Therefore you're right in admitting that by this stance you DO NOT know whether they're right or wrong: MaxInDHouse: Isn't this grand! But lemme demonstrate your two-faced, double-tongued hypocritical way of thinking: |
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