mazaje:

Languages evolved. . .Human beings didnt start out speaking languages. . .They developed it. English didn't exist as a language 5 thousand years ago it started out as Anglo-Saxon language in the 5th, century AD and later evolved to what we have today. 5 housand years ago there was nothing like the hausa language, people had not developed or formed it yet. Numbers did not exist at a point in human history people had to develop it . . .Humans developed writing, numbers, symbols etc. . .Some languages existed for thousands of years and died. . .Same goes for art and music they werw all developed over time, there was a time they didn't exist because humans had not developed the concept. . .

Religions were also developed to help people answer the pesky quations surrounding life and its many complexities. . .People started worshiping things like moutians, sun, moon, stars etc. . .later to graven images, idols, animals, to invicible beings. . .

Suppose, hypothetically, that you met with someone who knew nothing about you except your first name. And this person was able to accurately name deceased family members, dicuss in detail how they died, and describe intimate personal details about your relationship with these people (including people you aren’t consciously thinking about). How would you explain this?

bommaster: this Gj will continue falling if i see better price i will go for it b4 1am sha

i dey watch am too..if e nack .28x maybe i go bet fall...

FXKing2012:

Why shld a place meant for theists be filled with atheists? What do they have to offer other than to seek arguments and confuse folks' minds.

I dont know...ask the atheists but why dont you focus on developing Christians on this boards by sharing God's word in new light rather than worry about the atheists?

bommaster: i think we can bet up till 23.58 now, na only 2 minute to 1am bom go close their platform to re-start by 1.01am let take d opportunity as we see it b4 that time jare. as mkt too crazy 4 every trader yesterday

ok

bommaster:

watching this GJ for a rise bet, still watching it sha, on 61.8 fib at d moment

welldone sir, we no go wait for 1am?

f.ucking paedo....

mazaje:

Nothing much, they are just repetative patterns people developed over time to figure out common events or predict the outcomes of events. . .Sometimes they are right other times they are wrong. . .

Ok, In your view where does Language,Art,Music and Religion come from?

Ihedinobi:

I imagine that you quoted that Scripture and bolded those words to make a point. But that's just my imagination, because I really haven't seen the point. Why don't you say it plain like I did with my own surmises and we can take it from there?
I should point out that you have an interesting habit of ignoring direct questions.

i can say same about you too...Ok here goes

God can do somethings when he feels like even if he has severally instructed humans not to right?

tbaba1234:

What do you want to talk about when you know nothing about Islam? You know nothing about Quranic teachings with all due respect... How can you talk with someone that does not understand the context of revelation?


There is no substance to most of your write-up... It is all garbage....

On what grounds do you judge his knowledge of the Qu'ran? Is there any set standards or that is your own interpretation?

Ihedinobi:

Mkmyers45, seriously, I'm beginning to wonder what you're doing. Mr Anony has already answered this question in his last comment. Does your analogy in any way represent God's position with man?

No he hasn't...i need him to say it makes me 'blah blah blah'......

Funkymallam:

Yes o, fresh one from Ekiti.

Ihedinobi:

What does that have to do with the issue under examination? The point about which this debate revolves is: Yahweh's morality cannot be called into question based on the laws He gave to man. This is what you are to refute if you can, and what I am to uphold if I can.
And what in the world do you mean, "specify which god"?

and the laws which god is bound to is?

- Yahweh is an immoral God because He commanded the extermination of the Amalelites among other things. I have found this argument established with the fact that Yahweh had given as one of His commandments, Thou shalt not kill. As it is said, is the lawgiver not greater than the law? Does God commit an immorality when He Himself "breaks" a law under which He is not bound? I think not. The law was given to men by God not the other way around. And God is not at all obliged to bind Himself to requirements He lays upon men.

Psa 138:2 in the KJV reads: " I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name."

Funkymallam:



Cant wait too.

You don buy new mortar?

usisky:

Dropped u a msg.

ok...are you frequently online?

bommaster:

too quiet in here 2day

seems so...

tobechi20: I boarded a car from abuja to lafia on friday. .BY 1 :00, the driver packed and informed us that he was going to pray. We tried disuading him tellieg him that we were time conscious and promised him extra income to forget the prayer. He hissed, told us DAN ISKA(dont know the meaning) and left the car only to come back 40 minutes later .

I was angry that day but i realy learnt something..,NOTHING CAN SAPERATE A MUSLIM FROM HIS GOD.

On another ocasion, i met an aboki man in themarket .i was standing watching him repair my calculator....by 1 pm, he dropped my calculator and ran off to mosque witout locking the shop.... I reminded him to lock d shop else his wares wil get stolen.. He replied, "make they steal."


An average muslim is wholeheartedly commited to his religion. They are ready to give up anything for Allah. They can kill their best friend in religious war.

CAN A CHRISTIAN DO THE SAME?? I doubt it

christians work on sunday and say "GOD WILL UNDERSAND"
Many christians dont go to church for fear of church bombing ....
and we call ourself CHRISTIANS ..
i wish we could have the zeal and dedication in our religion.

but why did he insult you guys before going to pray to god? dan iska = Useless/Stupid/Rascal

tbaba1234:

He is ignorant, that's why?.... has been proven time and time again

care to correct him now? Atleast he's studying and wants to learn....

Mr_Anony:

There is a difference between the two analogies. The law "Go to bed early" is subject to you it is your house, Even if you say to your child "don't steal" it is still within your house. You cannot possibly steal what is yours.

The only time you can justly condemn God is if he goes to start killing people in another universe that He did not create. As long as it is this universe, It is His house, His rules.

Mr_Anony if you tell your child not to steal what belongs to others and you are caught stealing from others....what does that make you?

FXKing2012: If I don't eat yam, then what the heck am I doing in the yam market if not that I'm just looking for trouble. This is the religion section, so it beats me when people who proclaim to be irreligious invade this territory of ours. This section is meant for Christians and religious people to motivate and build one another, not an avenue for atheists to launch all sorts of missiles on our faith.
If I see a thief or a trouble maker in my house, I chase such away cos he's got no business there; Jesus chased away those selling in the house of God cos they ought not be there. So if you see me attacking atheists in here it's becos they aint supposed to be here.

So muskeeto, mr anony, pastor kun, mcdaddy01, Kay17, mkmyers45, area boy, 2good, cyrexx, dipwater, ghostofsparta, niflheim, logic mind, logic boy, delafruita, martian, dilluminati, dekung, and all others who claim to be equal to animals, try to understand when I come at you.

JESUS LOVE YOU STILL!

Sorry to disappoint you sir, but i am NOT an atheist...Please this is a religious section quite all right but all are welcome since the aim of the board is to contain all.....Atheists,Theists,Deist and all....So please get your head out of the cloud and focus on doing better things....How many topics have you created to edify the body of Christ?

Have you ever seen me say i don't love Christ....

Please can you share these laws and possible books with us?

TruthTella:
Apart from Jesoul what lady is there?

we have ladies ooo

tbaba1234: Please stop making a fool of yourself with this...

what is wrong? Are his interpretaions false or they don't suit you?

Goshen360:

Don't mind me bro, it time that is one of my issues. However, the Gap theory is simply heresy. The Bible didn't tell us about lucifer flood so why are they telling us that. Besides, the darkness in Gen.1:2 is not as a result of lucifer sin and punishment to the earth. How will lucifer sin and God punish the whole earth? Adam sinned and through Adam, all became sinner, that is reasonable enough because all came through Adam. The darkness in Gen.1:2 was like that when God originally created the earth in an unfilled and unformed state. Job 38:1-9 tells us where and what kind of darkness Gen.1:2 is. Verse 9 of Job 38 give the answer.

Also, if there is Gap btw Gen.1:1-2, then the whole creation will be RE-creation NOT creation. What the problem is that, they take Gen.1:1 as a created order. Gen.1:1 is an introductory statement in which from verse 2 to end of creation is the breakdown of HOW Gen.1:1 was done. It is also not a summary statement. If Gen.1:1 is a summary statement, then what will Gen.2:1 be? "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them".

When we read Gen.1:1 that God created the heavens and the earth. Some translation have the "heavenS" in plural while others have it in singular, "heaven". The correct translation should be "heavens" because since this account is mainly on the creation details of the earth and there are 2 heavens mentioned as regards to our earth (universe), then it makes sense to have that heaven in Gen.1:1 as plural with "S". The firmament was called heaven and the place where God fixed the sun, moon and stars is also called heaven....making it more than one.

There is no scripture that plainly points to the fact that it was lucifer sin that cause the water in Gen.1:2, not one scriptures. The Gap theory are just making up un-scriptural reasons just to prove a point. So you mean, God first created heaven and earth, satan destroyed it and then again, God re-created it and then Adam now sinned and the time of Noah and God wiped it off and then later again, God started all over again. This is pure heresy. The bible clearly says, God at the original states of the earth, it was water and from there, God made/formed some of His creation while He created some out of nothing. The Bible never said there is Gap, so why do some say there is Gap in between Gen.1:1 and 1:2. The only pre-Adamic world we know of as told by the word of God is in the third heaven where lucifer sinned "in his heart" and was cast down and we are not told his sin brought flood anywhere in the scriptures. If God don't care to tell us about lucifer sin and pre-adamic sin that brought flood to/in Gen.1:1-2, why are we reading into the scriptures? The Gap theory and Pre-Adamic teachings is pure heresy and should be refuted.

Here is something i found

Biblical support

Because there is no specific information given in Genesis concerning the proposed gap of time, other scriptures are used to support and explain what may have occurred during this period and to explain the specific linguistic reasoning behind this interpretation of the Hebrew text. A short list of examples is given below:

The word "was" in Genesis 1:2 is more accurately translated "became". Such a word choice makes the gap interpretation easier to see in modern English.
God is perfect and everything he does is perfect, so a newly created earth from the hand of God should not have been without form and void and shrouded in darkness. Deuteronomy 32:4, Isaiah 45:18 1 John 1:5
The Holy Spirit was "renewing" the face of the earth as he hovered over the face of the waters. Psalms 104:30
Angels already existed in a state of grace when God "laid the foundations of the Earth", so there had been at least one creative act of God before the six days of Genesis. Job 38:4-7
Satan had fallen from grace "in the beginning" which, since the serpent tempted Adam and Eve, had to have occurred before the Fall of man. Isaiah 14:12-15, Ezekiel 28:11-19, John 8:44
Space, time, water, and the rock which constitutes the main body of the earth, existed before the period of six days began in Genesis 1:3.

What do you think?

usisky:

Drop me your Email Addy or somt'n - thanks and pleasure!!

mkmyers45@gmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you

Ihedinobi:

First the bolded part. Does the law read, "I shall not kill"? I don't think so.
Does JAMB have to take the UTME to get into a Nigerian tertiary institution? Of course not. It is the authority that regulates entry into institutions of higher learning. For that very reason, it is not subject to laws or rules it lays down for those who wish to enter a Nigerian tertiary institution. The same way, God as God cannot be bound by laws and requirements He gives to man for man's conduct of man's life.
As to what laws God is bound to, because I'm in a hurry I'm going to forego the niceties of argument and say, His Own Moral Character. It's not quite necessary that I answer you since it's not part of the debate.




I have to be sure of the relevance of a question that you raised possibly to make a point? How's that?

Please expanciate on God's moral character and please specify which god please...

mazaje:

They are make belief, what we call juju are mostly tricks, or occurrence we do not have proper explanations for . . .They do NOT exist in reality they are also mythical tales and narratives that thrive on people's ignorance, fear and gossips. . .I carried out my own personal investigation for 8 months, missed a semester during my university days in Sweden because I stayed back in Nigeria trying to unravel the truth of the matter. . .There was nothing I did not do to test the effectiveness of the juju claims, spent like 3 different nights in side a grave, visited different jazz men for different charms. . Love portion charms, gambling charms, etc. .Non of them worked. . .I desecrated juju shrines and temples hoping that the jazz men will harm me, beat some of them up because of the stories i grew up hearing, used to hear myths like someone slapped a jazz man and his hands were swollen for weeks, after which they began to rot away or after slapping a jazz man a person was unable to bring down his hands and suffered excruciating pains etc. . .I wanted to see it in action, even it it mean me dying as a result I was just ready. . .I just wanted to see the supernatural in action because I had lost faith in my religion and in god. . .Just wanted to see something so I went the juju way. .

One of the most feared and revered among the juju men i beat up(many tales about him dissapearing and appearing all over the place, they said the last guy that slapped him died 3 days after wards) told me that I was never going back to Europe again, he vowed to turn me into a frog . .My mum went and beg him crying, he threw her out and i still slapped him after wards. . . I just wanted to see the juju in action even ii it means harming me. I did not care. I just wanted to see it. I afrronted different fulani people beliving that they will use juju to harm me because of the tales and stories i grew up hearing about them and how strong they were when it comes to jazz and juju. I affronted the ones with the most charms who parade themselves as stong juju fulani men. People normally stay away from them but i affronted them looking for their trouble. We stole the cow of one of them who went and called the police instead of using juju to harm us according to the stories I heard about him then, It was crazy the things I did then. . . They actually tried to harm me but they used conventional methods. . .They tried to use bows, knives etc to attack me. . .

I was crazy then and I did so many crazy things. . .Juju is just make belief that relies on fear and rumors to sustain it. . .Juju is NOT real. . .If juju were real we will not be speaking english and bearing names, like john, slivia, nancy, jane, ann, victor etc. . White people would have been speaking igbo, and answering names like olayinka, chinedu, osaze, bello etc. . .Juju begins and ends with them say dem say. . .Those that look real are either as a result of majic tricks(Nigerians and Africans in general forget that there is a thing called magic which involves tricks). If magicians like Daren Brown, Jame Randi, David Copperfield and Richard Angle live in Nigeria they would have been worshiped and revered as the strongest juju men on earth. . .These white men I have mentioned do magic tricks that NO juju man can ever do. .They do it in public, they walk on water, levitate, fly around. . .Behead themselves. . They do INCREDIBLE things. .But its all magic and when they reveal their tricks which some of them have. . You will only laugh at their crativity. . .So juju is NOT real. . .Its all make belief. . .We all grew up hearing these juju stories, and they are constantly drummed into our ears. . .A lie repeated all the time later becomes the truth. . . .

Ok, i had to lol on this

What do you think of Astrology and Ability to See the Future?

Mr_Anony:
Seriously? If you tell your children to go to bed early but you stay up late; does that make you an evil father?

If you say to your child 'Don't steal and you are caught stealing....what does that make you? If you tell your children not to leave the house for their safety but you go out to get daily bread what does that make you?

No sir, as a christian, he doesn't necessarily have to........... the exact date of the battle in Heaven is of little or no relevance to a christian's faith

Sir, do you seriously believe that GEN 1 and 2 are sequential? It's relevant to the Christian faith Sir

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Mrcork and Hairyanus

Natasha and pendo89

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Usisky i greatly admire your posts and i will like us to talk offline if possible..

shymmex:

In that section?

The ladies are alright, and I respect JeSoul a lot...

Those guy just argue about the same thing everyday with the same logic..

Jesus, atheism, agnosticism, and black hebrew israelites with the same rhetorical crap everyday..

Does your logic change by the day? Why don't you bring in fresh air?