[quote author=Gluckdude]I'm just curious to know if its right/wrong to play baba ijebu, i met with an old friend of mine last weekend, and all he kept spewing is forecast and permutation.

When i asked him, he said he is now into baba ijebu tins. in the course of our convo, he said he won 320k last month, i'm like WTF. He said make i sit down there till i hear say him don win 10milla.
My thoughts now is, is playing baba ijebu a cool idea

I would like this not to be looked at from a rational point of view. Injunctions of faiths should be employed & made known. I would like christians to tell us what their scripture say because to a muslim any form of gambling is forbiden in the religion of Islam.

Itoroetti :


Stop lying,u were born a muslim but I pray dat u will come to know the truth.d truth dat will set u free.d truth dat won't tell u to fight for God.d truth dat won't tell u to marry five wives and divorce one.d truth dat won't tell u dat ur wife is a slave.d truth dat won't tell u dat u must be holigan.u shall d all dis truth.

Hello bro, where did you see all these cluelless allegations abt Islam. At least prove your point & stop all these antagonistic comments fed to you by anti-Islam media.

ckkris:

I thought Mohammed was the 1st moslem, and Jesus was 500 years before.
Will this post be hidden if I cite the Koran for this?

I'm sorry to say bro, but your comment is in error. The term Islam means submission to the will of Allah(SWT) i.e. God. This means a person who submits to the will of God is called a"MUSLIM". So, right from the first human-being created i.e. from Adam(AS) all through to Jesus(AS) & Muhammed(SAW) all submited themselves to God(As stated by God in Islam). As we can see above the first muslim was prophet Adam(AS).

devigblegble: I don't really do religion I just try to live a decent life

But do you believe there is a creator who created you out of nothing bro, because there is no creature without a creator. So brother i urge you to seek for the true teachings of the religion of Islam(not what the media,me or any other person tells you concerning the religion) by going to the authentic sources i.e. the Qur'an & the Sunnah which are the traditions of Allah's final messenger to humanity & the greatest human-being the world would ever see. It is then that you would know that there is no religion, no settings make a human-being half happy as much as Islamic society does. Whatever is believe is serious ignorance about Islamic tenets if not, there is nothing confusing about the position of Islam about areas embeded with misconceptions.

shymexx:

Can you prove that the "messenger"(Muhammed SAW) was arab and not black African

Ok, let's say Arabs existed 1,400 yrs ago - which is like about 500AD, right??

Read this:



According to text above, King Oduduwa settled in ile-ife between 2000BC to 500BC(this assertion was made by ARCHAELOGISTS) - which means he settled there more than a thousand years before the first arab was born!!!

you are getting it all wrong bro, Muhammed(SAW) was not the first Arab. i was just citing the date the current islamic calender was started. The Arabs have been existing long,long before the final messenger was born. If you look at his ancestral chain you would know what am talking about.

saved: You have all done wonderfully well by your insightful posts/comments. You made me think about the Biblical account of the world that once spoke the same language in BABYLON. They wanted to reach unto God physically and agreed to build a tower. When HE( God) saw what they will achieve this singular language and agreement, HE diversified their tongues and they could no longer understand themselves and that ended the project. People became scattered because they could not communicate effectively. A common example of such misunderstanding is between the Yorubas and the Binis (EDO) :1, domo in benin means,respectful greeting to elder where as," have sex with a child" is the meaning in yoruba. 2, Obota means, good evening in Benin but, it means "Vagina sells" to a yoruba folk. 3, Oko yo o means, well done in Benin but, "the Pennis is out" in yoruba language. A yoruba folk listening to the Binis exchanging greetings and pleasantries will term them to be corrupt with their words. whereas the Binis are upright in their communication. What a confusion! Peace.

Thank you bro, but the bottom line that i am trying to entrench is the fact that languages are borrowed amongst one another so, we should not dispute
all these once we cannot affilliate with any other language. Yoruba as a race started at a point so, if we are not able to justify that the race(Youba) has been existing before the Arabs were genuinely known(1400years ago) & the alleged Arab prince Oduduwa issue proved to be true then it means that's how it all came in.

Sike: BUT THE PORULAR AND WIDELY USED WORD IS: WALAHI TALAHI - BE IT YORUBA, IGBO OR HAUSA.

that's an Arabic word now.

shymexx:

Oduduwa wasn't no arab prince - just because he allegedly "came from the east" doesn't mean he was an arab... Are you sure there were even arabs on this planet at that point in history??

Prove your point brother, what is the particular year of that point in history that you are talking about. The most certain thing is that the Arabs have been in existence in the Arabian pennisula for over one-thousand four-hundred years(i.e. the period in which Allah's final messenger lived). so, give us a date on the time through which Oduduwa lived.

The Arbiter: The Arabic roots of many contemporary Yoruba words has been investigated. Titled “On Arabic Loans in Yoruba,” it was written by Professor Sergio Baldi, a well-regarded Italian linguist, who presented it at the Annual Conference on African Linguistics in California, USA, in March 1995.

Below are excerpts from the article as presented by Farooq A. Kperogi. To download a copy or read the complete article CLICK HERE.

1. Abere. This Yoruba word for “needle” traces its etymology to the Arabic “ai-bra,” which also means needle.

2. Adura. This is the Yoruba word for prayers. In fact, there is a popular syncretic Christian sect in Yorubaland that goes by the name “aladura,” meaning “people who pray” or “praying people.” Many other northern and central Nigerian languages have some version of this word to denote prayers. It is derived from the Arabic “du’a,” which also means prayers.

3. Alubosa. This Yoruba word for “onion” was borrowed from the Hausa “albasa,” which in turn borrowed it from the Arabic “al-basal.”

4. Alufa/Alfa. This is a widely used word for a Muslim scholar (and occasionally any Muslim) not just in Yorubaland but in Nupeland, Borgu, Igalaland, Ebiraland, etc. It is now increasingly used by Yoruba Muslim women as a term of respect for their husbands.

Surprisingly, the word is absent in the Hausa language. It came as no surprise therefore when Professor Baldi suggested that the word came to the Yoruba language—and many other central Nigerian languages—through the Songhai. It is derived from the Arabic “khalifah,” which means a “successor” or a “representative” (of the prophet of Islam). It was first corrupted to “Alfa” by the Songhai who later exported their version of the word to western and central Nigeria—and to other parts of West Africa. Many Songhai were itinerant Islamic preachers who traveled all over West Africa.

5. Atele/itele. It means “following” in Yoruba, and it is derived from “at-talin,” which also means “following” in Arabic.

6. Amodi. It means “disease” in Yoruba and is derived from “al-marad,” the Arabic word for disease.

7. “Amo.” It is a conjunction in Yoruba, which performs the same function that the word “but” performs in English; it introduces contrast. It is rendered as “amma” in Hausa, which is the way it is rendered in its original Arabic form.

8. Anfani. This Yoruba word for “utility” or “importance” also occurs in Hausa, Batonu, and many northern and central Nigerian languages. It is derived from the Arabic “naf,” which means “advantage, profit.”

9. Ara/ apaara. The word means "thunder" in Yoruba, and is derived from the Arabic “ar-ra’d.”

10. Asiri. It means “secret” in Yoruba, Hausa, and in many other Nigerian languages. It is derived from the Arabic “as-sirr” where it also means “secret.”

11. Barika. This is the Yoruba word for “congratulations.” It is rendered as “barka” in Hausa. The word’s original Arabic form is “al-baraka,” which means “greetings.”

12. Borokinni. It means a “gentleman, respected man in a secure financial position.” The word is also found in many Borgu languages, such as Batonu and Bokobaru, where “boro” means a “friend.” It is derived from the Arabic “rukn,” which means “support, corner, basic element.”

13. Faari. It means “showing off” or “boastfulness” or “ostentatious display” in Yoruba. It has the same meaning in many Borgu languages. It is derived from the Arabic “fakhr,” which means “glory, pride, honor.” (Note that “kh” is a guttural sound in Arabic, which is close to a hard “h” in English. That sound was dropped by Nigerian languages).

14. Fitila. It means any kind of lamp. Its roots are located in the Arabic word for lamp, which is “fatil.”

15. Ijamba. Professor Baldi defines this word as “bodily harm,” but the meaning of the word I’m familiar with is one that associates it with cunning, cheating, deceit. It is derived from the Arabic “danb,” or “danba,” which means “sin, crime.” (Note that Arabic frequently dispenses with end vowels (that is, a, e, i, o, and u) in words, whereas many Nigerian languages almost always end words with a vowel—and add them to words they borrow from other languages if such words lack an end vowel).

16. Imale. This is the Yoruba word for “Muslim.” I read previous interpretations of this word from Yoruba scholars who say it is Yoruba for “that which is difficult” to underscore the difficulty of Islamic practices like praying five times a day, fasting for 30 days during Ramadan, etc. Other Yoruba scholars said the word initially denoted “people from Mali” since the Songhai people who Islamized Yoruba land in the 15th century were from Mali.

But Baldi argues that “imale” is the corruption of the Arabic “Mu’alim,” which means a teacher. In the Hausa language, the word is rendered as Maalam. It’s interesting that “Mallam” has become the synonym for Hausa (or northern) Muslim in southern Nigeria.

17. Iwaju. It’s the Yoruba word for “front part.” I didn’t imagine that this word had an Arabic origin until I read Baldi’s article. It is derived from the Arabic “al-wajh,” which means “front” or “face.”

18. Iwaasu. It is the Yoruba term for “preaching” or “sermon.” It is used by both Christians and Muslims in Yorubaland, and is derived from the Arabic “waz,” which means “admonition” or “sermon.” (The Yoruba language has no “z” sound, so it substitutes “z” with “s” when it borrows words from other languages with “z” sounds).

19. Suuru. It means “patience” not only in Yoruba but in many languages in central and northern Nigeria. It is derived from the Arabic “sabr,” which also means “patience.”

20. Talaka. It means the poor. It came to Yoruba by way of Hausa, which borrowed it from the Tuareg (where it is rendered as "taleqque" and where it means “a poor woman”). It’s also used in Mandingo, Songhai languages, Kanuri, Teda, and many West African languages. Baldi says this word has no Arabic origins. On the surface, this may be true. After all, the Arabic word for a poor person is “fakir” (plural: “fuqura”).

However, “talaq,” as most Muslims know, is the Arabic word for divorce. (The chapter of the Qur'an that deals with the subject of divorce is called Suratul Talaq). Talaq is derived from the verb “talaqa,” which means to “disown,” to “repudiate.” In times past (and it’s still the case today in many Muslim societies) if a woman was divorced, she was invariably thrown into poverty. Thus, Tuaregs used the term “taleqque” to denote a “poor woman.” But Hausa, Kanuri, Yoruba, Mandingo, and other West African languages expanded the original Tuareg meaning of the word to include every poor person. This is my theory.

21. Tobi. This Yoruba word for “women’s knickers” is derived from the Arabic “taub,” which means “garment,” “dress,” “cloth.” Another tonal variation of this word leads to a different Yoruba word, which means “big.”

22. Wahala. Well, this isn’t just a Yoruba word by way of Hausa; it’s made its way into most Nigerian languages—and into West African Pidgin English. It means “trouble,” and it’s derived from the Arabic “wahla,” which means “fright,” “terror.”

Well done bro, great job

olabscars: What now is the nxt line of action?As it is now,how can we be happy for this type of Government that we voted for?Na wah o!Lets keep the fingers crossing.

What exactly are u trying to say, elaborate now......!!!!!!