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Dear Brothers,

I was wondering why it took so long why anyone would contribute to such a very sentitive topic as this. I began to ask questions that could it be true that it is onlyn Hsmpwise and Stranger 12 are the only few people on the surface of earth that are concern about the ill treatment our other brothers are mete with on daily basis.
NO! Absolutely no! It is just that most of us have resorted to fate and prefer to smile in the heat of suffering.

Little wonder that the Administrator has been less concern about the topic. This explains why a "catchy" to as this has not been properly classified at three weeks after posting.

Brothers I weep for the black race. It is only when the batle within is fought and won that the batle against stigmitisation of black race could be won.

Shalom Brothers!

Remarkably, I have not experienced that.

wwtlt U you were so tired that you slept in a bath tub during a bath?

Never! But ma granny just did that.

wwtlt u sneezed with your eyes opened? Be sincere

I have one and so I do it every time.

About a year ago when I had deal with suspected fraudsters.

When was the last time you shook hand with a baby todler

Shouldn't you guys realise that you are almost off this interesting game?

About a month ago at a meeting.

Wwtlt u twisted your tongue?

Didisky My Pally,

You seem to be getting me wrong! I meant no harm.

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Muyete

Both of you deserve each other!
[quote][/quote]

You meant Lonelytune and Didisky.

The elders say birds of the same feathers flock together and weak minds think a like

I quite agree with you Old Glory. These people are becoming unintresting again. You can Imagine I asked of traveling experiences lonely is talking of expenses and how go online with my computer blablaba

lonelytune link=topic=4732.msg439786#msg439786

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muyete, tell me, how did you manage to go on-line. because, I have a computer and I go on-line anytine am free.(you know that palm computer thing.) travelling expenses? I don`t really know. But , what I knew is that , each expenses depends on the type of visa you have so the requirement are different.

Not too good enough from some with dual residency and travelling experiences. Abi no be so.

I feel like ejecting out of this thread and join a more intresting one . Or what do you say Glory?

Lonely Dear,

Sorry I dont have computers at home though I am always online. What are your travelling experiences like?

Didisky,

I can see that you are the desperate type who does nothing than to poach on any available opportuties. People like you are the easy victims in the hands of the conmen. Wetin concern me and you. your kadara can never be mine. Your destiny is in your hands. Go to US if you like I am not stoping you.

Look let me tell you I am not the desperate type and I am well enough comfortable in Nigeria. So you do not stand any possition to advise where to be before I can make it. You don't have to remeind me that we did not share the same destiny. I had already known that since I was a kid, and that is why my hardwork and selfconfidence have paid off well for me.

If US is where your breakthrough is, good and fine. I had already wished you good luck. Ther is no crime in offering advice to a brother!

YOU ARE CHANGING THE TUNE OF THIS THREAD

Lonelytune,

Sorry I left immediately I posted my peace of goodwish to my brother, Didisky. I must have gone when your posting came in. What is up today?

Can somebody help me out with this. I often get confused about regarding english language as either our native language in Nigeria or an official language. This very position is very difficult to determine even in the international relations.

I know there are great minds in the house so I want your contributions.

Didisky

What is so special about this US self. If you believe in yourself you will make it in Naija. Then you could travel arround the world.
I no be witcth, and I am not witch hunting you. Lonely invitation was directed to BabaOlu and not you. Well since Babaolu has decided to keep mute, I think you have my blessing to be blessed by lonely tune. Iwish you good luck in your future endeavour.

Lonely Dear,

I want you to realise that Old Glory is not having any hard feelins toeards you. She is just being natural and blunt. I am not totally aginst you helping fellow borother but the Yorubas will say ore ni won-- lendind a hand of assistance has a measure---- if I am right.

One thing I apprecaite about you is tenacity to help others in the face of criticism and I hope that you will be rewarded. But be truthfull and staright forward in your dealings.

lonelytune:


, but am very serious about helping any brother out there. At times, life is so funny. remember, your family ,friends, or co-workers are not the only one you should / could help.

YOU CAN ALWAYS EXTEND YOU HAND TO THE BACK and FRONT, SIDEWAYS, UP and DOWN OR CIRCULAR IF YOU WANT TO.

Be careful if you twist your hand like that it could be broken.

And you Didisky why do you want to reap where you did not sow? Answer me now.

Didisky,

Let no one deceive you. Applying for US visa is very simple and at the same time very difficult. You statr to experience the difficulty right from the time you que up in the morning or what time you get there. Eventually when you get inside you are subjected to humiliating treatment from the fellow Nigerians who collects your forms and process your form. The point of difficulty is where you either enjoy continuos difficulty or mother luck smiles on you.
You need not spend up to 5 mins with the consular officer b4 your case is decided. Your need not provide all the documantary evidence to the consular officer before you know your fate.

I am able to say these because i have had experiences genuinely seeking visa to US.

The last time was a conference to US. The conferon had invited our company to attended a global confernce in Texas and I was nominated along side my MD. nOW my MD had multiple entry visa to USA so he need not apply. The company and the conferon provided all the necessary documentary evidence to the conference for the purpose of visa issuance to the visa office.

After the interview the consular officer had nothing to say than to refuse my application based on the fact that my MD should have applied alongside wiith me. I vehemently told them that it does not make sense for someone who had multiple visa to USA to apply again. He could only give his consent and guarantee as he has done.

Guys I ended up thumb print while a guy who claimed to be working in Shell and is going for the same confernce was asked to come the next day for his visa.

So how would you consider my ordeal.

LET LONELY SHARE WITH US THAT MAGICAL STRATEGY SHE INTENDS TO ADOPT,

Glory,

You had better not worry yourself. Lonely had said from the word go that she is only interested in BabaOlu.

lonelytune:

muyete,

Don`t worry on how? Let babaolu answer those questions OR you self can answer then, I will tell you how. haba, why you dey answer question with question self.
you should know if woman want to do something for man[b][/b], no bi joke. we will do it. Ladies, no bi true??

Do you need a prophet to tell you that something good is about to happen.

You may be right Landmark and you sounded possitive about this. I guess level must have changed in recent times. You will be better of if you only tavel just for your vacation only.

Iwonder how lonelytune wants to go about it. Why are you so particular about his family and marital status among other things . Please declare your intentions ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Me too Iwant to go to yankee ( on a sacarstic note)

No offence

[/quote]My advice is if you are young and don't have parents to assist you,
then you can do what ever it takes to leave the country by land. sea. or by air any means necessary to survive in a country like ours. you have to struggle .[quote]

Why should you subject yourself to these unsolicited danger. If you believe yourself and hard working, then you will make it in Nigeria. Ther are are people who are making it here in Naija and yours sholud not be different.

Sorry my brother. I read your ordeal and I couldnt help but to feel for you. You are just another victim of ethnocentricism. The way you were treated at the interview is a fall back of the way the west are looking at Nigerians. You are lucky that you were not subjected to degradatory scrutiny at the airport when you arrived UK. That has been the experience of most of my friends who have travelled to UK on the paltform of HSMP and other legal schemes.

If you are very conversant with the western media, there was a recent documentary about fraud and identity theft in the US. CNN has aired this documentary 2 times in less than a month. The documentary showcased Nigerians as the major perpatrators of these dastard crimes. If "Agnes" went out of her brief to scrutinize you,knowing fully well that she is not oblivous that you are her brother from Nigeria, do not take offence in that. The poor woman is ust trying to do her job, only with some level of unguided overzealousness.

The image of Nigerians  in diaspora has already been tarnished and we relly on people like you out there to make the difference.

Let me end with my experience with the processing of HSMP. I also applied with all the relevant documents when the processing fess was just E150. The applicationwas not considered untill more than a year (13 months) after the submission. You want to ask the outcome of the application? Refusal of course! Refusal on the basis that the Home office could not decide on the athenticity of the tax clearance I submitted. Unfortunately this is where I needed to claim the required points for qualification.

The tax clearance system in Lagos state was change during the period my application was in the backlog; and now I was to be assessed with the new tax clearance that was not in existence when I submitted my application. However I compplained about this and the response was that I needed to submit the cureent Electronic Tax Clearance Certificate (e-TCC) from Lagos State. As you know very well this entails applying afresh since you are submitting fresh and new evidence.n This I did with the payment of the reviewed processing fess of E315. 3 weeks later my apllication was returned unattended to but the fess was not refunded. The reason they gave was that the local embassy in Nigeria has advised them to cast doubt on the authenticity of the (e-TCC). I strongly protested this and even told them that they can confim my tax dtails on the internet but all proved abortive. After the presribed 2 reviews I had to give up.

I later came to conclussion that I have paid dearly for the sins of other Nigerians. I was just a victim of the same ethnocentricism. But I have since left everything behind me. I have to face life and wish to change this already marred image of our.

Shalom to you my brother.[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

IT WILL BE UNFAIR IF I DID NOT JOIN THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY WELCOME YOU. YOU ARE WELCOME TO THE FORUM

If I remember correctly he said 40% of Nigerians in the US are involved in fraud, not 40% of crimes committed in the US. Either way it's his opinion and I think he is wrong, but you mistated what he said.[quote][/quote]

Yes you are right. I might have mis-stated what the guy said because I watched the late nite edition of the report .

What ever crimes Nigerians have committed in the US should be associated to these few individuals who were involved. When you generalise the behaviour of a few set of individuals in relation to the whole race then that becomes an issue. The report will only tannish the already marred image the country has been trying to wash clean.

The repetitive nature of the report is a clear indication that the US has an ulterior motives against Nigerians. I insist.
Has it ever occur to you that CNN or other foreign media will not showcase the good works and the contributions Nigerians have made to their economy and country as a whole.?

CNN and other foreign media should be very care in thier choice of report not only abot Nigeria but about africa at large.

The cnn had, in its documentary on june 10 and posted on its web site, dwelt on criminal activities of US- Based Nigerians, especially those living in Houston. It is disheartening that the documentary focused majorly on the Nigerian community in the US and by implication, all Nigerians. It is dissapointing that out of 10 persons prominently cited as being involved in the criminal ring, only 2 were non- Nigerians. To add salt to injury, a Nigerian ex-convict even testified that of all crimes committed in th US, 40% were committed by Nigerians.

I have gone through this myself and I also watch the documentary in question. I will totally disagree with the conclussion that most crimes committed in the US are committed by Nigerians. I am very sure the documentary was aimed at achieving a polital and diplomatic points.

If you remember, in recent times in the US, there has been a debate in the house to ameng and review the immigration laws. The govt is considering granting permanent status to a number of illegal immigrants of which Africans dominates the segment and invariably Nigerians having the largest numbers. This documentary is undoubtedly aimed at tanishing the image of Nigeria as a whole and jetisoning the chances of nigerians in this latest political developments in the US.

Hello t-luv,

I do not have much detail about the contact, but you may have his number

Mr Oye Akinsulire 08038103492.
He is a very good gentleman. You may direct all your enquiries to him and let me know as soon as you do that. I wish you sweet luck!

There are quite some good ICAN tuition centres arround Lagos. I will rather recomend that you go to SAFE ASSOCIATES in Barracks very close to Stadium.
I have been there before and they have quality lectures in the centre.
Goodluck to you

I have been advised by an old time friend who is now residing in the UK to apply for UK immigrant visa through the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme.

Does any one in the house has any experience about this programme? Kindly advice.