operationmoses:
I am interested

Please drop your mail. Thanks.

Noblebrain22:


Great!

Can you drop your email add?

espn:
You welcome... We can connect via...then chat better on WhatsApp.
haksdlc@gmail.com

I sent you a mail already. Please check. Thanks!

PeaceJoyLove:

It is what I am saying, you are not skillful in Leadership. There are many places I used words like: mostly, almost all in my posts. This is to say that almost all of you. It is not to generalize it, but to state a well known fact. And read your colleagues responses. Let me show you.


@Noblebrain22, what does this comment sound like? Tell me. And it is on your thread.
You are mostly visionless. Failure over failure. Sorry...I am stating the fact and the truth as it is. Most of you are just unreasonable. You prefer enduring self afflicted poverty. You even call on fellow failures to keep brainstorming ideas with because the mentality is that two programmers can start a successful company. Listen to me, if you do not get a person with the business brain, and most likely he will be the boss, you arent going anywhere..

Let me tell you something: I strongly believe the era of forum is coming to end end like how yahoo MSN and AOL came to a halt in leading the world of information. It was like yahoo and msn messengers would be king for very long. It was a real savior to cut of the price of telephone calls and the duration of letter writing. Imagine, they were in charge of emails too. And then they were even more popular for internet news. They had business and investment stuff too. What didnt they have? I saw nothing coming again until Facebook and Twitter came into play. And then, WhatsApp and telegram. Gradually those messengers packed up. Even their emails addresses are not official again. Schools and offices came up with theirs and then products are offered at discount prices these days for people with official emails. Then, google went futher to make his emails available and easily merged with other products by making it available and useful for automatic registration for usernames of products.

Things change. Only people with innovative brains can do it. This is why the success rate of starts up is low. Programmers always want to be their own CEOs and they always fail. Lol. It is extremely hard to think as a programmer and think as an innovator. Your job demands mental ability and stressful enough to code. To add seeing ahead to it is a lot of job. In fact, I dont see it in one person. Anyone with the two abilities always drop the coding ability because it is always easier and lesser. A beg, make it easy for innovative thinkers because they have too much to think about. The last of their worry should be the cofounder. But in Nigeria, the Co founders who are the programmers are the main reason startups fail. They should create their own big apple businesses and start making money there if they dont want to sacrifice with the en with the visions.

People's opinion should be respected here. Yes, this is my thread but I will not have anyone throw invectives here and there. Leadership goes beyond talking people down. You barely even know them, yet you generalize already. I created this thread to have people connect and share ideas about their journey into the IT world and share their challenges with a view to finding solutions. It is not to seek co-founders. If you seek any, go to LinkedIn. There are thousands of established programmers you can easily pick from.

bet9ja:


I do acknowledge his frustration but he should not generalize. If you need a Software Engr, your first approach is to engage them on LinkedIn and request for their CV. Check if he or she meets your requirements before engagement. Dont engage anyone because they follow a tutorial on YouTube to build a Todo list. Engage the professional.

My little cent.

My point exactly. He seems frustrated really, but generalizing is a mistake. With this kind of approach, I don't know how he intends working with people. It's a sad situation.

muhammed50:
I'm interested.
I'm specialised in Python(Data Analysis/Science), C++ and starting React
Message me on telegram: https:///Truth005

Great!

PeaceJoyLove:

Keep talking rubbish like i said. Bill Gates that everyone knows that its Jobs' idea that made him rich. Keep talking rubbish. Being smart and intuitive is what makes a good business and not a good programmer. It is not easy to get a cofounder anywhere, but if you get in the western world (most likely with an Indian who has been living ther for long or with even the indigenes there), they are faithful. My point is that you guys here are not. You are mostly money driven and "gbos gbas" kinda people. And you are a typical example. I pity your partners. Lol.

You do not need a lot money. All you need is a good cofounder. That's all. Mark has been coding for long but with zero business skill. He had to be taught. Let me tell you...the real business owner is the man with the idea, and not with the programmer. Take it or leave it. And I am telling you. One can easily get a good cofounder to partner with and do something small. Show investors. And then money rolls in. Then one builds his team. Go and make research of all the guys who have made it. They dont waste money outsourcing programming. It is wrong. A smart owner will never do that. How can you start a business and you want them to start with paying heavy cash for what they are building which will come with many adjustments. Outsource it? Come on. You are a real money driven person. Mark my words, you will not grow to be a leader with this your mentality. You will just be an employee who will be paid, used and dumped. Take it from me. Change your attitude. Change your orientation. Dream big.

When Brin wanted to take over Google, he couldn't use his brain. Do you know who he consulted? Steve Jobs. And Jobs lectured him and put him through not minding Google is a competitor. Listen to me, Jobs is the master of all masters. His death took us like 100 years back technologically; yet, we arent aware yet. If that man was alive today, forget it.....we would have gone further. Elon is another example. Is he a genius with coding?

Listen to me, the era of programmers doing it at the top has ended. Intuitive boys are the ones bringing innovations on board. It is why Canada and UK has Startups visa now just like most European nations.

Yes, equity is the thing. Even you are a coder, you are likely to give out equity. No programmer can easily combine being the CEO and programming. It's not easy. Your Mark coded last ...maybe on his bed in Stanford. Maybe I'm wrong. Lol. Being a CEO is a tougher job. And if you are a programmer and a CEO, you will most likely leave coding.

See, no intuitive person has the time to start learning coding. Never!

The best strategy which I know will work if well implented in Nigeria is lean Startup. We create MVP (a tiny version of the big picture), and use it to get fund. My friend got $1.2million dollars in the UK. He is Russian, but moved to the UK around 2014. And he isn't a programmer. He knows what he wants, and he gets a cofounder. He has 2 startups now. But here...its "money money money". Yet na peanut you dey collect. Instead of you all to sacrifice develop a plan and make it work.

Please, I cannot argue further. Do what is good for you. God bless!

Wow! Fantastic. Why don't you reach out to this friend of yours for ideas? Don't you think he can be an amazing 'co-founder' since you don't think anyone of us here can fit in? Good luck.

PeaceJoyLove:

I agree with you. Yeah! They should be supported which is normal. But trust me, the Nigerian programmer will start like that, and after he has started, he will be acting like he's doing the other person a favor. He can even abandon the work, will not meet deadlines, and will start demanding more. My point is that the vision is in such person. This is my point. And they all end up miserable and poor.

The major problem starts when the first pay check from an investor lands. He wants to increase his reward fast. He wants a huge salary fast. He wants to move to an expensive area, he wants to quickly buy a new car, etc.[/quI

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I am not sorry to say this: you do not sound like someone that anyone will want to work with. If your 'co-founder' betrayed you, kindly deal with it personally. Don't generalize. You do not sound realistic.

espn:
Nigerian youths are not ready to share ideas bro...but to chat and trend rubbish online...I have tried bringing people together e no work.

You are right. It's really hard bringing people together for positive efforts. In Western societies, people connect and network easily. We can start somewhere - both of us - and hope others will join. Drop your twitter handle, mail or any private means so we may connect. Thanks for the reply.

Hi there! Are you into programming - front end and backend - and you need to connect with like minds? I am available. I started a programming course, and I'm looking for techies like you. Let's connect and share ideas.

I am interested. I'm also looking for tech buddies from anywhere in Nigeria, especially Lagos and Lagos Island.