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Religion / Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Obafavour(m): 4:00pm On Aug 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Ignorance is not bliss! Open your mind so you can read that book and understand what is in fact written in it as it is written! undecided God's name is not Yahweh or Jehovah. Instead, it is the Name of God's Old Covenant and Law of Moses given as a Constitution for the Nation of Israel by God to the people of Israel. That Law is what the Name YHWH or Yahweh, or Jehovah refers to. The Law is eternal so also is the name, It never changes so it can't morph. undecided

Stop trying to learn these things from the mouths of men, you will keep screwing yourself up by that. Clear your mind of all the lies and all you have ever been taught or known,pick up the book and read it for your own self so you can clearly understand what is written as is written. undecided
Like the question of mayman: do you know God is a title, so what is the name of you God?
Religion / Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Obafavour(m): 3:57pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


First of all quote it out in words out before asking for explanation! smiley
Don't you have a bible? I will do as you wish, but you're against the church and it doctrine? Now listen to what Jesus said in "matthew 28:19"
Therefore, go into the world and MAKE DISCIPLES, baptising them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY GHOST.

"John 10:30"
I and the father are one.

I need more explanation on that.
Religion / Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Obafavour(m): 3:34pm On Aug 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Sorry for your delusion!

Adam was God's Son {Luke 3:38} made in the image of God {Genesis 1:26} just like Jesus {Colossians 1:15} that's why Paul referred to Jesus as the last Adam! 1Corinthians 15:45

So stop deceiving yourself Jesus was sent as in SENT by the Most High God, not to be worshiped by faithful servants of God and of course faithless and hopeless generations of Idolaters can worshiping in vain {Mark 7:7} just as Samaritans massively worshiped what they don't know! John 4:22 grin
Can you explain "matthew 28:19 and john 10:30?
Religion / Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Obafavour(m): 3:32pm On Aug 11, 2022
Janosky:

No mind them 3 deities worshippers.
Acts 2:36 , Jehovah God made Jesus the Messiah and Lord,as well as the Prophet,Acts 3:23.

But them 3 deities worshipper copying their mentors of Nicene Creed decided to install Christ to status of Almighty. grin
Matthew 28:19
Religion / Re: How Is Jesus God ? by Obafavour(m): 3:31pm On Aug 11, 2022
Lukuluku69:

The Word being with God now translate to the Word being God abi?
So, God's name has morphed into "I am" and not Yahweh or Jehovah again?
Everyday, new stuff
Please carry on.
Re-read "john 1:1" In the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was God.
Religion / Re: Tithe And Offerings: For Those Who Want An End To It. by Obafavour(m): 7:02pm On Aug 09, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. When Jesus Christ preached to His followers, did He mention that reading of Revelations was necessary in order to enter into His Heaven? undecided

2. Jesus Christ explained in John 15 that His church was comprised of those who abide in Him and Him in them. He clearly taught you that not everyone who called Him "Lord, Lord!" was His, so for you to confuse your church buildings and gatherings with the Church that is of Jesus Christ reveals how very little Jesus Christ's own teachings mean to you. undecided
1. That your number one shows how dumb u're. Did jesus aswell said u neccessarily need to read d 4 gospel before going to heaven? u avoided my question i place b4 u because of ur false spirit. Was is not jesus that spoke in "revelation 2&3?
2. Yes Jesus churches are those who abide in him. But if u read nd understand acts and revelation u would see clearly Jesus isn't against d churches, only for u 2 stand against d progress and it won't change anything.
Religion / Re: Tithe And Offerings: For Those Who Want An End To It. by Obafavour(m): 8:58pm On Aug 08, 2022
Niklaus398:
smh. Is revelation not part of the Bible?.. oga no be from same bible you saw Jesus say he will build his church?

Thank God you even talk about church.. what do you think Jesus meant by church or building a Church?

A church is a committee if believers coming together as one on special occasions . A church is also meant to be a sanctuary for people with problems... How do you expect the church to sort out the problems of it members especially finances? They should steal?.
What is the essence of the church if it can't help its members and itself
No mind the idiot, i don reply am up before you, check am.

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Religion / Re: Tithe And Offerings: For Those Who Want An End To It. by Obafavour(m): 8:38pm On Aug 08, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the one whom you claim is your savior, the one who said that by His own hands, His own church will be built... but instead of paying attention to the Law He gave to you over 2000 years ago, you would rather consult the book of Revelations so you can ignore Jesus Christ, why? undecided
So it wasn't jesus that spoke in "revelation 2&3"?
Read this aswell "matthew 16:15-19" and don't forget peter started the early church which jesus commanded him in "john 21:15-17" and peter collected funds in "acts 4:33-37&5:1-11" and which the holy ghost the promise of the father "acts 1:4&2:4, luke 24:29 is in full support of it.
Religion / Re: Tithe And Offerings: For Those Who Want An End To It. by Obafavour(m): 8:36pm On Aug 08, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the one whom you claim is your savior, the one who said that by His own hands, His own church will be built... but instead of paying attention to the Law He gave to you over 2000 years ago, you would rather consult the book of Revelations so you can ignore Jesus Christ, why? undecided
Religion / Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by Obafavour(m): 8:48am On Aug 06, 2022
BrokenEggShell:


Ok then, explain yourself.
How exactly does Matthew 28:19 suggest that the Trinity exists. Be specific. You haven't given an explanation thus far, you have only just made general statements. How does it prove that they are three in one? Why can't that passage just be him mentioning them? Explain.
God is the father, jesus is the son and holy spirit is the spirit "matthew 28:19", they work in one none of them does things without the agreement of the three entities. Or would you say they're different entity entirely? No!! And john 1:1 made us know that the word was God and Jesus is the word. God, Jesus and Holy Ghost are one. Simple!!!
John 1:1-5 made us know God created everything with word and the word is jesus and the word was God which means jesus was God. Gen 1:2 made us know that the spirit of God was there when everything was created and the spirit is the holy ghost. There are a lot of bible passages that proves the trinity.
Religion / Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by Obafavour(m): 8:35am On Aug 06, 2022
BrokenEggShell:


Ok then, explain yourself.
How exactly does Matthew 28:19 suggest that the Trinity exists. Be specific. You haven't given an explanation thus far, you have only just made general statements. How does it prove that they are three in one? Why can't that passage just be him mentioning them? Explain.
That statement isn't difficult for a matured man to reason and understand.
You said what Jesus meant by saying i and the father are one was that they work in agreement. So the word trinity was brought because we were commanded to baptise in the name of the father, son and holy ghost. If those three entity don't work in one and unity or if those three entity aren't God in three persons we won't be commanded to baptise in those three names. Also read "matthew 3:16-19" Just simple logic think!!!
If you don't still get it then forget it.
Religion / Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by Obafavour(m): 7:24pm On Aug 05, 2022
@brokeneggshell
I'll keep saying it that your point is baseless and you lack understanding of the bible.
Thank God you said Jesus is the word of God so i refer you to "john 1:1"
None of your point disproves the trinity, you only use your own logic to misinterprete the bible, Jesus clearly stated that we should baptise in the name of the father, son and holy ghost "matthew 28:19". That has proven that they're three in one and if not so Jesus wouldn't have said that.
No one is saying God the father isn't the greatest but what we mean by "holy trinity" is the three working in one, or don't you understand the meaning of trinity? Think!!!
@brokeneggshell
Religion / Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by Obafavour(m): 10:11pm On Aug 02, 2022
BrokenEggShell:

Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
Indeed, that passage does reference the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. However, it does not say that they are equivalent entities. It does not make any claims about who they are at all. It just mentions their names in a particular order. Did it say "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, who are actually one entity"? No.
You say "e.g", so I will assume you have more examples. I can promise you here that none of them actually claim that they are equivalent entities.
Your point are baseless, that scripture is enough to be convinced that they're equalvalent entity and stop being adamant. Look at "john 10:30, act 1:4-8".
My question is if they aren't equalvalent entity will jesus say "i and the father are one or would he command us with matthew 28:19? Think!!!
Religion / Re: Why Should We Pay Tithe If Christ Had Abolished The Law? by Obafavour(m): 1:07pm On Aug 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Better! cheesy
Is there any difference between the mosaic law which is the constitution of isreal given by God and their traditions?
Religion / Re: What Things Do People Think Are In The Bible But Are Actually Not In The Bible? by Obafavour(m): 12:41pm On Aug 01, 2022
BrokenEggShell:
The Trinity is probably the biggest, but there are others:

1. The cancellation of the old Law.
2. The belief that only faith is necessary to go to heaven.

Countless fake christian babalawo (a.k.a. MOGs) shenanigans would realistically also be on this list.
Atleast reading and meditating on bible we can see there's trinity in the bible e.g "matthew 28:19" that was jesus statement in that scripture.
Religion / Re: Pastor Enenche Prays For Osinachi's twin Sister, Grace At Dunamis Crusade by Obafavour(m): 8:14pm On Jul 31, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ who instead said you should abandon the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) when you choose to enter into His Kingdom of God was a fool to you for saying that in Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 6 vs 1 - 13 abi? undecided
So greeting and honor is a sin?
All your claim shows you lack understanding re-read those scriptures with understanding before talking rubbish especially "matthew 15:4"
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 4:08pm On Jul 31, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Biblical infallibility is of the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, as Jesus Christ warned - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 15 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. Jesus Christ taught His followers that the Word of God refers to the Words out of God's own Mouth - Matthew 4 vs 4 undecided

2. Trinity doctrine is also of men , an attempt by men to explain that which they have little to no true understanding of. That is not to say that Jesus Christ is not God. Afterall He did tell His followers that He is exactly that, oniy what He said was hidden from those who concocted the Trinity doctrines in order to provide alternative explanation to that hidden from them. undecided
Continue to wail in foolishness.
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 4:07pm On Jul 31, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. How can a book that contains errors and contradictions, lies - opinions of even - , be considered Holy? Where did God state this to be possible? Or is man's standard suddenly that of God's? undecided

2. No where in scripture is it found written that scripture, written by the hands of humans in human is Holy aka in compliance with God's very own specification, so why do many cling to this idea going as far as to worship a book which is instead a compendium of books? undecided
Then why do you read the bible and believe the words in it?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Half Of Russian Troops’ Sent Into Ukraine Have Been Killed Or Injured by Obafavour(m): 10:09pm On Jul 29, 2022
This pro-zelensky fools shaaa grin i imagined how many troops ukraine would have lost and troops injured if russia have up to 75k troops injured and killed.

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Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 9:40pm On Jul 29, 2022
@brokeneggshell
I understand your point. But he intend to know more than the authors of the bible, i doubt if you'd been observing his comments even though not this topic.
And mind you bible is a Holy scripture, there can never be an error in the word of God. Those letters can't be referred to as mere letter because they carry the content of Jesus teaching e.g forgiveness, love, repentance and how to live our daily live in holiness. As i said it's by the inspiration of the holy spirit, and because it's the message of the holy spirit Jesus words should now be repeated everytime to everybody, no!!! It doesn't make sense. Holy spirit give different messages but none will contradict Jesus teaching so also is applicable to the apostles teachings, if it contradict Jesus teachings it won't be added to the bible.
@brokeneggshell
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 9:27pm On Jul 29, 2022
@kobojunkie
There are some teachings Jesus didn't lay emphases on e.g marriage. "Matthew 19:1-12" he only talked about man and woman coming together and divorce nothing more. But with the inspiration of the holy spirit peter and other apostles laid emphases on marriage and none of it contradict Jesus teaching.
Read with understanding and not with hypocrisy.
Don't be desperate to judge, Jesus was never like this.
@kobojunkie
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 9:15pm On Jul 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Only a one who is either ignorant of the Truth of Jesus Christ or intentionally blind, or even deceitful, would be able to ignore the contradicting ideas offered in Paul's letters. undecided
I doubt if you have the holy spirit.
Holy spirit can not give same messages everytime, the letters of paul you call opinion are the inspiration of holy spirit. Most of his letters are based on forgiveness, love, repentance and how we can live our daily live in holyness and if you read with understanding and not with hypocrisy you will see there's no contradiction between his teaching and Jesus teaching.
As i said holy spirit can never be saying same thing everytime but none of it will contradict Jesus teaching. So you expect holy spirit to be ministering exactly what Jesus said in the bible everytime and to everybody. If that was your thinking then you are a big fool. God's word can be explained in many ways, it depend on the situation on ground.
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 9:01pm On Jul 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Paul's letters were his way of joining in on what were discussions in much the same we here on nairaland partake, expressing his opinions on various issues in the lives of believers, only his comments ended up printed by the churches of men as if part of the collection of messages by and from God when they were in fact not meant to be taken as such. And thus began the confusion that is taken as Christianity today. undecided

Indeed much of what is contained in those letters directly conflict with the teachings of Jesus Christ, while there are numerous attempts to add to God's LA as given by Jesus Christ, which is what the Gospel really is. So whoever submits and obeys Paul letters does so in worship of Paul and not Jesus Christ, who instead taught that those who belong to Him are instead those who obey His teachings and commandments. undecided
Your hypocrisy is high. The same bible u criticized because we follow paul teaching is d same book u found Jesus teaching SMH.
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 8:55pm On Jul 27, 2022
famozine1:
Please how do I know I have genuine calling from God bcoz dis days u will see different people claiming God called them though some are True while some are not though we are all called but some have genuine calling how can someone know he or she is called by God genuinely thanks
According to my understanding for you to know if you are a vessel God want to use like the early apostles i think you should try what happened in "Acts 2:1 & matthew 4:1-2" it might not be neccessary 40 days just do it as the spirit direct and if you experience "Acts 2:3-4" then there's possibility you are vessel God want to use.
Religion / Re: How Do I Know I Have Genuine Calling by Obafavour(m): 8:47pm On Jul 27, 2022
famozine1:


To my understanding in Bible some are called to be apostle,teachers and so on

2. First, what are these things of God that you say we are to do? undecided

Like if a kid just love singing all d time his parents will say surely dis child will surely be a musician in future so if someone just loves like attending all church programs studying screaptures and so on willingly dose dat mean he his a pastor, apostle what do ever

Second, how does one measure failure as far as these things of God are concerned? undecided

Like today if some men of God tells u dere past dey may say dey are involve in dis dey fail in dat dey failed but dey find out dat it was God dat was calling dem.
Here is a life scenario why by my bro have been trying medicine for like 7 times with good jamb scores but not admitted but some pastor are saying it's God calling I just wanted to know how will I know God is calling me to do his work
God bless you my brother.
Religion / Re: Why Do Christian Men Uncover Their Head During Prayer. by Obafavour(m): 9:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
AntiChristian:


Sorry o! Cover you head or open your head....
Your babes too no dey open head for mosque na.... abi no be hijab and black cloth your women dey use cover themselves according to your leader principle through allah? Pokenoser. undecided
Religion / Re: Why Do Christian Men Uncover Their Head During Prayer. by Obafavour(m): 5:11pm On Jul 25, 2022
AntiChristian:


Pauline Principle!
Muhammad principle follower you aren't mentioned here.
Religion / Re: Why Do Christian Men Uncover Their Head During Prayer. by Obafavour(m): 5:10pm On Jul 25, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again...1. There is nothing Christian about covering one's head or not covering one's head. Those ideas are of the traditions of men and mean absolutely nothing as far as honor to God. undecided

2. The only way to honor God is through submission and obeedience of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments and since Jesus Christ never asked anyone to worry about issues like covering of hair, those of you who do it in His name, sin against God in your ignorance of His Truth, Jesus Christ. undecided
And you will claim that you are a christian reading and following the bible. SMH
Religion / Re: Why Do Christian Men Uncover Their Head During Prayer. by Obafavour(m): 4:36pm On Jul 23, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. There is nothing Christian about covering one's head or not covering one's head. Those ideas are of the traditions of men and mean absolutely nothing as far as honor to God. undecided

2. The only way to honor God is through submission and obeedience of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments and since Jesus Christ never asked anyone to worry about issues like covering of hair, those of you who do it in His name, sin against God in your ignorance of His Truth, Jesus Christ. undecided
1 corinthians 11:3-16
We don't just create doctrines from our brain but with the principles in the bible.
Religion / Re: Was Jesus In The Grave For 3days And 3nights Literally? by Obafavour(m): 4:55pm On Jul 17, 2022
LordReed:


The 3 days was not a literal 72hr period, that is all I need to establish.
We count hours but they (isrealites) count days. If he rose after 72 hours then it's no more the third day but the forth day. Bible is beyond human intellect we need deep understanding about bible before discrediting it.

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