So far nothing has been done to bring these killers to book neither by Lagos State Government, nor by the Hospital's Management. Shortly, it will be two years since this sad event occurred. These killers masquerading as doctors are still allowed to go near patients.

Dear All:

Please find below an affidavit sworn to by Mr. Daramola. His wife lost her live about a year ago during childbirth.

On the unfaithful day, Mrs. Daramola, a mother of three, took public transport to the hospital and walked in by herself at about 8:00 am. She passed away about 20 hours later. Determination was made that she needed C-Section and about 8 hours after the hospital began looking for their surgeons, she passed away.

Her case was not a matter of emergency yet a surgeon could not be located by the hospital. Imagine what are happening to those needing emergency surgeries taken to that hospital. May God help us.

The husband has written to the management of Gbagada General Hospital, Gov. Babatunde Raji Fashola; Nigeria Medical and Dental Association and to the Commissioner for Health of Lagos State. One year later, the killers of his wife are still hanging around roaming the street and masquerading as health care givers. They are probably killing many other people, day in day out.

A general hospital MUST be in position to perform emergency surgery 24/7. If you are in position to help secure justice in this case please contact the husband on dafolabi@ekiti.com. He can also be reached on 0805-564-8513

Please don't be indifferent. Your action may help save numerous other lives, including yours.

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The above subject refers to how I lost my wife during child delivery due to the carelessness of the management of Gbagada General Hospital (GGH), on 22nd January 2008.

Background Information
My wife who was a mother of three children registered for antenatal clinic at the Gbagada General Hospital (GGH). She appeared for her first clinic day on 22nd October 2007.

As instructed by the hospital, she carried out two ultra sound during the gestation period, the first was on 5th Nov.2007 and the last (2nd) 14th January 2008. She regularly attended antenatal clinic without omitting a day and she went every other day to complain of any noticeable strange symptoms experienced. We seriously relied on GGH as she had no other hospital during this period. She followed the hospital (clinic) instructions to the maximum as every requirement and prescription followed to the latter.

The probable delivery date from the hospital was 19th January 2008. She appeared in GGH on 21st January 2008 before 8.00am for antenatal which later resulted to delivery. She was mismanaged until she gave up the ghost at about 3.30 am (according to her death certificate) on 22nd January 2008

HOW IT HAPPENED
My wife was a regular attendee of Gbagada General Hospital (GGH) antenatal clinic prior to the labour process that led to her demises on 22nd January 2008.

Prior to 21st January 2008, there was no sign of labour experienced, but towards the day break on 21st January 2008, she experienced stomach contractions, not so serious, as she was not sure it was a sign of true labor or false labor. She left home 7.00am on 21/1/08 for hospital as the day was her clinic (antenatal) due date. She left alone on public bus only with her antenatal materials as it was not serious and she was not sure of the stage.
Fortunately she was admitted for labor and her loads were brought to her, we did communicate on cell phone from time to time to be assured of no problem.

At about 8.00pm in the evening on 21st January 2008, the Assistant Chief Matron on duty informe the doctor (Dr Anifowose) that the foetus was bigger then an average baby and that her contraction was weak. She however concluded that my wife may not be able to have self delivery. Dr Anifowose initially did not consent to the report, instead, he said that the woman (my wife) was unnecessarily lazy.

At about 9.00pm on 21/1/08, a cesarean operation was later proposed by Dr Anifowose. Unfortunately there was no other Doctors around him even obstetrician was not on hand to carry out the operation while my wife was going through the labor pain. Though the Doctor assured me that all other Doctors and facilities will be available before I finish the process of what he called blood crossing examination in the hospital’s laboratory.

At about 10.00pm I was directed to get blood ready from hospital lab and to buy some medicine .The procedure for the blood was not given while the lab attendants on duty (2 females) have slept, it took me a long time to wake them up. Their behavior was nothing to write home about. I was terrible dealing with the officials on duty on that day, in fact, l ran round the edges of female delivery hall to Lab four times weeping before I could get the first pant of blood. Can you imagine what could have happened to collect the second and third pant of blood respectively because every time l reached there, they have gone to inner room to sleep.

When the blood was finally ready, there was still no any other Doctor on hand but only Dr Anifowose, he was still calling those Doctors concerned to get ready for the operation and promised to send an ambulance to them. Unfortunately, the only Ambulance attached to the hospital according to a driver was not on ground, but said to have developed electrical fault on 3rd mainland bridge, but assured to return soon.

I suggested using any of our two vehicles on ground but the suggestion was turned down by the doctor that it was not proper in the interest of the doctor to use non ambulance vehicle.

When every effort proved abortive, the Doctor and his staff on ground could not do anything again and the situation was getting out of hands, they saw that the woman was dying gradually, they suggested referring her to Island Maternity at a critical time and situation.

A referral letters was subsequently issued after my persistent cry and appeals to safe the life of the baby and the mother. Having issued the referral letter, the Doctor and the Nurse who would have accompanied my wife (their patient) to Island Maternity complained it was too late and dangerous for their life as there was no ambulance. I offered to use our two cars on ground for the conveyance of the patient and the official but they refused to follow the patient. I remembered I asked what of my life, and one of them said “sebi, she is your patient “
In the process of cleaning and dressing up for my wife, she fainted at about 11.30 pm in the hands of the nurse and she was revived. After her recovery there was a message that the Ambulance had arrived which was immediately instructed to go and carry Dr (Mrs.) Owodunni. The woman Doctor arrived when nothing could be done again .the vehicle left again to carry Dr Saheed (AKA Oko – Oloyun) the Obstetrician but they came back without Dr Saheed with the reason best known to them and not known to me.

Meanwhile my boss in my office of work invited the Critical Resque Team (CRT) who arrived at GGH at about 1.00am on 22nd Jan 2008. Initially, they were not allowed to participate in the treatment of the patient, after conversation, when they were eventually allowed access to the patient, they left some minutes later by saying that they could not render any assistance as it was too late and the situation was hopeless.

All the calls that were put through to some Doctors for assistance, only Dr (Mrs.) Owodunni responded late for the administration of anesthesia while the main Doctor that would have carried out the operation was not available in the hospital. Dr Saheed later appeared on his private vehicle around 3.00am on 22nd January 2008 only to carry perhaps the corpse of my wife to the theater hall. It is important to note that consent note to perform operation on my wife was given to me at about 4.00am on 22nd January 2008 while the death certificate later issued showed that my wife died at about 3.30 am on 22nd January 2008 and no surgical operation was performed on her till she died.

MEDICAL RECORD OF LATE MRS DARAMOLA BOLANLE AT GGH
Card No: 0908556-Photocopy attached.
Date Opened: 22/10/2007
Last Admission Date 21st January 2008

MY QUESTIONS
1. Where were the theater’s Doctors on duty as at that time
2. Where was one functional operational vehicle (Ambulance) as at that particular time and why was it outside?
3. Why did it take the Hospital management too late to prepare for the operation?
4. What is the competency level of Dr Anifowose and why was he the only Doctor to be on duty.
5. Why should an offer to use my vehicle to convey the Doctors turned down earlier if Dr Saheed could arrive later with his private vehicle safely?
6. Why did it take Dr Anifowose so long to refer the patient to another General Hospital when he knew he was not competent to handle such case?
7. Why should they refuse my request to accompany the patient to the referred hospital?
8. Why claimed that they could not risk their life without ambulance when the time was safer why should they preferred their patient and her family to go on vehicle other than ambulance at most dangerous and riskier time of the night?



REQUEST
I wish to request that this case be investigated thoroughly and appropriate sanction meted to the erring personnel at the GGH.

The lost of my loving wife is a big blow and the shock was so much that I could not put up this complaint on paper before now. Now that l am trying to recover from the shock, I feel I should put forward my case with the hope that you will give it the attention it deserves in the spirit of justice and to prevent re-occurrence at the GGH.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully,


Daramola A.Muftau

Back to the topic of Islamic View of Banking.

Islamic View on Interest (Usury) is well articlated in the Bible.

Exodus 22:25-27
25 " If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him; you shall not charge him interest.
26 "If you ever take your neighbor's garment as a pledge, you shall return it to him before the sun goes down.
27 "For that is his only covering, it is his garment for his skin. What will he sleep in? And it will be that when he cries to Me, I will hear, for I am gracious.
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Leviticus 25:35-37
35 ' If one of your brethren becomes poor, and falls into poverty among you, then you shall help him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you.
36 'Take no usury or interest from him; but fear your God, that your brother may live with you.
37 'You shall not lend him your money for usury, nor lend him your food at a profit.
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Deuteronomy 23:19 " You shall not charge interest to your brother -- interest on money or food or anything that is lent out at interest.
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Nehemiah 5:10,11
10 "I also, with my brethren and my servants, am lending them money and grain. Please, let us stop this usury!
11 "Restore now to them, even this day, their lands, their vineyards, their olive groves, and their houses, also a hundredth of the money and the grain, the new wine and the oil, that you have charged them."
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Psalm 15:5
He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.
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Proverbs 28:8
One who increases his possessions by usury and extortion Gathers it for him who will pity the poor.
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Jeremiah 15:10
10 Woe is me, my mother, That you have borne me, A man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent for interest, Nor have men lent to me for interest. Every one of them curses me.
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Ezekiel 18:7-9
7 If he has not oppressed anyone, But has restored to the debtor his pledge; Has robbed no one by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing;
8 If he has not exacted usury Nor taken any increase, But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity And executed true judgment between man and man;
9 If he has walked in My statutes And kept My judgments faithfully -- He is just; He shall surely live!" Says the Lord GOD.
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Ezekiel 18:13
If he has exacted usury Or taken increase -- Shall he then live? He shall not live! If he has done any of these abominations, He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.
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Ezekiel 18:17
Who has withdrawn his hand from the poor And not received usury or increase, But has executed My judgments And walked in My statutes -- He shall not die for the iniquity of his father; He shall surely live!
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Ezekiel 22:12
"In you they take bribes to shed blood; you take usury and increase; you have made profit from your neighbors by extortion, and have forgotten Me," says the Lord GOD.
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(All references are from the New King James Bible)

Applauding Lady for sticking with Catholic Church Khufu wrote:

<b>yes. thanks for refusing to be lured into those business empires called pentecostal churches. it is only the leadership of these churches that are infallible and unquestionable to their stupid sheep - like followers who have been blinded by voodoo - induced deception.</b>

The above piece seems like beating about the bush.  What has pentacostal churches got to do with Lady's pationate disagreement with her own Church?  The position she disagrees with (NOSTRA AETATE ) is the predominant opinion in the leadership of the church for no less than half a decade.  One must admit, these are positions that are bound to stir emotional problems within some myopic members of the church who would rather be decieved than be told the truth.  

If these Catholic Church leaders were to consider the business aspect of faith, the decalarations about Muslims would have been supressed.  Apparently they believe they are the right things to document about Muslims given the Church's leadership KNOWLEDGE of the TEACHINGS OF CHRIST, KNOWLEDGE OF ISLAM, STUDY of the BIBLE and the QUORAN, TEACHING and PRACTICE of ISLAM.  

If the leadership of this church were to do anything other than what they've, it will be tantamount to buying the world at the price of the HEREAFTER.  It is writen that thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set thee free.  These gentlemen found the truth and made effort in documenting this truth for the benefit of their followers.  On the judgement day, each person who is taught the truth and refused to accept will answer for themselves.  The Bishops have done theirs.

A yes vote to the decalaration by 2221 out of 2309 Bishops indicates that there was near unanimity.  You can not be more Catholic than Pope, Can you?  Khufu please wake up and leave the pentacostals out of this.  The age of Mathusela has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon.  Stay with the topic.

I am grateful to all that contributed into this discussion.

I think Lady needs to find another Church.  She apparently disagrees with the Catholic Church when she says

",  I don't see why it is I can't accept Muslims profession. I accept it and pray that they will see the true nature of God and not the false one that Muhammad portrayed, "

.  Muslims are followers of Muhammad.  Muhammad taught us all the things the custodians of Catholic faith evaluated before coming to the conclusions they documented in the Cathecism and in the NOSTRA AETATE quoted below.  Muhammad taught us that Jesus teachings must be followed, laws of Moses must be followed etc,etc, etc.  I hope Lady will educate us on exactly what Muhammad did to deserve the comment she made above about him.  

The following official position of Catholic Church (NOSTRA AETATE ) was voted on by 2,309 Bishops on 28th of October, 1965.  It was adopted by 96% of the this Bishops. We have to remember that these bishops dovote their lives to Catholicism.  
 

The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting. 

Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this sacred synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom. 

I think the above quote only goes further to clarify the Cathecism of Catholic Church that I referred to at the begining of this topic.To crown it all, the above was signed by Pope Paul VI. Visitations of Pope John Paul II to Mosques, his public favourable comments on Islam and kissing of Quoran were only indications that he wholeheartedly agrees with what his predecessors did.

thetruth90  wrote:

", This is just another effort to discredit Catholics. I would just advise we true Catholics to stick to our faith. GLORY TO JESUS, HONOUR TO MARY, "

I had no intension to discredit Catholics and can not.  Why will I want to discredit people who say these beautiful things about my faith.  Only Catholics who are not knowledgeable in the Faith of the Church, in the first place amongst whom is Lady; can be discredited by these posts.  

Frank interfaith dialogue can really cure the world of many of it's problems.

We should debate and educate each other about the position of the Catholic Church on Muslims.

The Cathecism of the Catholic Church (CCC) paragraph 841 reads thus:

The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

CCC is the Catholic Church's doctrines and their intepretation of what the bible and their faith is all about. It is amazing that being Catholic also means believing that Muslims are destined for paradise, judging from the article above. Meanwhile Catholic church member of little knowledge go around preaching to Muslims to convert. I will have to ask 'Convert so that what?' Since Catholic faith believes we are Paradise bound, I expect them to only praise Muslims and encourage them to continue in the path of Islam.


You can get the full text of the CCC from Vatican follow this Url http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc/index.htm.

I believe we Muslims should try to educate each other about the position of the Catholic Church about us.

The Cathecism of the Catholic Church (CCC) paragraph 841 reads thus:

The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

CCC is the Catholic Church's doctrines and their intepretation of what the bible and their faith is all about. It is amazing that being Catholic also means you must believe that Muslims are destined for paradise, judging from the article above. Meanwhile those who have little or no knowlege of their Catholic faith go around preaching to Muslims to convert. I will have to ask 'Convert so that what?' Since Catholic faith believes we are Paradise bound, I expect them to only praise Muslims and encourage them to continue in the path of Islam.

You can get the full text of the CCC from Vatican follow this Url http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc/index.htm.

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I would have preferred to post this as a new topic but I could not locate New Topic button. I just joined the forum about 3 days ago and I did in order to post my contribution on Islam and Violence.

And you too Olabowale. I spent over a day looking for the write-up from my archive. Mysteriously though, the topic where you copied the posting from has disappeared on Nairaland.com.

Salam alaikum w/w