adamabdul:

The niger deltans think they must produce the president coz they have oil,we will show them that the presidency is not a barrel of oil come 2011

And we will show you that presidency is not your(northerner) birthright. parasite!

Kobojunkie:

Yaradua is dead. Ask Jonathan that question of yours! 

No prob. I'll just ask him after he wins the election next year! 

Moves:

It is a fact that Jonathan is a benefactor of the Zoning arrangement and he is a pdp member, to now abandon it to contest for presidency in 2011 is Selfish. It would be only fair if he was to contest on another Party Platform e.g AC, IMHO This would be suicidal,
My work around of this delicate issue is for jonathan to send a bill to NASS to make zoning constitutional; a 5 year one term of each president/region; taking into account the region that has led previously; if the north has a go in 2011 they are bound to vacate the post for a southerner who will go for a 5year term. It is now upto to each region & party to put up their best for the post, People should stop seeing the worst of the north for every IBB or Abacha there is an Obj; Is Jonathan the best the South South can present the nation with

I personally dont believe that zoning is backward; if it will ensure our fragile peace as a nation and guarantee equity amongst members of the union, then I can't see anything wrong in it,

Was it fair that yaradua went on and accepted presidency after he knew that he was rigged in and that there was no way he could have gotten 70% of the country's votes? Is that honorable or selfish?

suleyaha:

If Goodluck Jonathan is not respecting the PDP zoning arrangement today it is out of selfish interests, and not out of any patriotic motive. If he had a problem with zoning, he should have cried out. If not for zoning, he wouldn't have become deputy governor, governor, vice president, and now president. He never rejected any of this appointments. It is obvious that he is being led and wants to be led. His acquisition of the honor of GCFR is also very dubious. It is clear that he is a man who did not aspire to the high office he holds now, and once there cannot quite believe his good luck and has no set objective or direction.

The point of being a president if to make a better nigeria that people love, not rotation of power so that each side can get his fair share of time to steel money! Even if 2015 comes does that mean that southerners i.e. SE people will get to choose whoever they want? No. the pdp will impose one of their own person from the SE.The SE people will not get to pick. For instance, if someone from another party in the SE runs for president and is more that likely to win, do u think the PDP wont try their hardest to stop him even if it means death so they wont lose presidency?

Sule your people(politicians) in the north are greedy and parasites. their time is over.they are fighting amonst themselves, fellow muslims are killing each other (fulanis and nupes), the baroms even though they are christians are fighting their fulani/hause brothers, famine is going on at an alarming rate in the north, non PDP northerners are running for president which means less votes for a pdp aspirant meaning better chance for GJ, your political groups are opposing each other, everyday northern politicians sound desperate in news article which is bringing down enormously respect and relevance.

Greedy has sent down the wrath of God on you people! 

EzeUche:

Only Anioma state should be created.

Not some Aba state.

I agree with you 101 %

opeyemiofG:

well evans, to be sincere with you, the north needs to produce the next president in 2011. it is the only way to ensure fair play. but have you considered the consequences that may arise from this cruel and awkward arrangement.
anyway,it seems that you need to be educated on some issues concerning nigeria and nigerians.
first, there is a need to compare the development level of nigeria with its contemporaries.
may be you should also ask yourself what exactly will be the benefit of nothern presiency.
              i leave you to ruminate with these.


bye

As long as nigeria is nigeria there will never be fair play. the northern politicians need to stop behaving like babies by thinking they can always get things their way. What happened with yaradua the north wanted that to happen with OBJ or something where he would be overthrown so that the north may have the chance to rule again.thats why in the arrangement they said the vice president should be from the other side of the country so that no matter what they can always manipulate in some way but it backfired on them now they are complaining.GREEDY! If they would have agreed that the president picks a VP from where ever he likes whether it be from his own state or their own state they wanted to be greedy now they are crying innocence  .

The country doesnt revolve around them. A man( GLJ) is doing a more than great job with this country now and all you care about is "he needs to not run because it is our turn to rule" like a DAMN BABY  . I thought to point whats to get the country from underdeveloped to developed, from insecure to safe? somebody is doing that so WHY NOT GO SIT DOWN?!

Oh yeah and dont think that IBB if he becomes president is giving up power in 2015.Aint happenin smh. Why would anybody trust these northern politicians words after we saw how hard they tried to keep jonathan from becoming president after it was clear that Yaradua died a long time ago?! Come On!

Their are no friends in politics thats something that the SW knew for years and is why they are the best at the game. As terrible of a leader OBJ may be or haave been he's good at the game. The so called rotation thing started with OBJ and it was planned that after 4 years it goes back to the north.dont be fool. the only reason it stay with the south for 8 years because OBJ perfected his power so much that the north new they had no chance of convincing him to give up going for the full eight. It was not planned for the south to have it for a full eight years! Northern politicians are greedy but they got out smarted. When it comes to playing politics the SW has it HANDS DOWN, END OF STORY, Nothing like friends if it suits me then to bad for u . that's politics


@OnlyTruth


what Igbos need is to learn from their mistakes from the pass,plan according to situation, and stop being unsystematic. The MASSOB dudes are tryin to bring out their currency again but look at the chaos thats going on in the SE. You want an independent state and u cant even check your own people and crime?!!! when the JTF comes after there asses they are going to keep complaining, get killed, and take no type of action like a bunch of cowards. Dont worry about independence right now, fix ur people up first, play it smart, then we'll see what happens,

Sometimes I wonder why Igbos speak and act out in public without thinking of how they look, make their people look, or knowing anything about the power game. This guy is making igbo politicians look like scrap takers and desperate. If this Nwosu guy wasnt aware the northerner politicians were making comments suggesting that they wanted to get rid of zones and the zoning arrangement by 2015!!! Meaning that they dont intend to let the SE get presidency AT ALL!!!! Use your brains and play the game how it goes  

Don't be fooled the north has NEVER won an election based on numbers or population. Their presidents emerge from the results of coups. Yaradua obviously was a rig in so I dont even have to dwell on that. There arent close to enough people in the north as it is in the south so the does not need the north to will the election period if all vote for jonathan but if the igbos want to screw them selves again go vote for IBB or any other northerner and see what happens,

And as far as the SW not needing the SE or the Igbos you must have lost your minds there are MILLIONS of Igbos in yorubaland and also Igboland is the most densely populated land in nigeria, and possibly Africa look it up and learn. there are millions of Igbos in each northern state mark it. There are more igbos in nigeria than yorubas. Notice how i said "In Nigeria" not "In the world" so dont let the lame census of nigeria fool you!

And as far as SE worrying about the SW. Igbos stop worrying about the Yorubas! Dont blame them blame yourselves. Its not the yorubas fault that yall dont know how to play politics! Dont blame the SW for OBJ neither because yall voted for him and screwed yourselves, the Yorubas didnt vote for him. So thats food for thought  

@Nchara

If you're looking for igbos to come on this thread and attack the yorubas like the yoruba attack the igbo in high volumes on igbo threads its not going to happen. I don't know if you've noticed but Igbos in general don't care about yorubas or whatever it is thats going on with their people but yorubas envy the Igbos and pay attention to every of their footsteps. Its just a characteristic of each tribe,

Just remove the thread. Igbos aren't made to stoop down to that level it just isn't in their genes

So let me get this straight, You complain that you don't want jonathan to run in 2011 so that won't become president again believing that the you (the north) will be short-changed and be marginalized. However, to come up with a plan to pull prominent northerners in the federal government to RESIGN?!!!! Wow they really are dumb up there smh,  If you pull your people out then that's just making room for more Yorubas,Igbos, Edos, and other southerners to join the federal government and "oppress" you(northerners) even more!

These guys are complete geniuses (fool really). This will lead to the country breaking up and everybody living peacefully without them   

udezue:

One 1,
U are one complete dimwit. Igbos in the 60s where getting massacred and had to fight back. Israel was busy fighting against arab muslim extremists at the same time. When did they have time to recruit Igbos while kickin arab asses?

Learn your history you FOOL! and stop responding off of anger like a female. Read, ask, learn then speak.

Its not a muslim or christian thing. We nigerians must understand that Israel is only trying to get simpathy from enough blinded countries in the world so that they can regain their fake innocence. Iranian ambassador would only be trying to incite muslims to kill the christians in nigeria because they believe christians are friends to the jews.

One must understand that the israelis are evil and terrorists. they are jewish which means THEY DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS/THEY REJECT HIM. they dont give a damn about christians.they are very selfish people.Yes hamas is shooting rocket launchers into "their" cities because u kicked them out and are killing their people off because u have a well equipped army and the palestinians dont. so wen u back a cat into the corner of course its going to scratch, These are the same "jewish" israels who came to nigeria around the civil war time and told the Igbos that they are their brothers that they should come join them in israel; the only reason they want the igbos to come is because they wanted igbos to help them fight the arabs in the Middle Eastern War because they were getting their butts kicked at the time. [b]DECEIVERS![/b]Thank God that the Igbos knew what they were up to and said F#%K YOU!

Nigeria should expel both of the ambassadors if any of them dare say another word  

Are you aware that some people are saying that zoning should be done away with?
It should be done away with after 2015

What about now?
It will be selfishness pure and simple and it is ungentlemanly and dishonorable. That is my stand on that.
Will you support Jonathan if he decides to run on the ticket of your party in 2011?
I will not.

Why won’t you support him?
Why should I support somebody that is not honorable?

Clearly It shows that the northerners are power hungry and greedy. This shows that they have no intent of keeping to the zoning arangement. This guys says that it should be done away with after 2015( the time it is the turn for the Igbos to rule). Wow and they talk about honor! Look at the extent these people went with the apparent lie of yaradua being alive just to keep power and you think people like this is going to just let the South get power  just like that? No, not happening!

Any Igbo that votes for other than Johnathan just so the Igbos can get presidency after 2015 is a fool  ,  Also dont think for a second that kalu is not running to take igbo votes away from johnathan to make sure he loses and power remains in the north so "hopefully" the SE can have presidency.which isn't going to happen. whether he is in the PPA or not it doesnt matter he is an elite and has connects in all parties and many godfathers,

There was even a time back a few northerner politicians were encouraging that geographical zones should be done with around 2015 because they feels that it just leads to more division is Nigeria and we are one, COMPLETE BULLSHIT! They have been planning and are still planning to stop the SE from ruling after 2015. They have no plans on letting that happen so dont be fooled.

Wow, everything that is against what the US and UK says is a conspiracy wow, it pitties me to hear the mind of an African slave ot his white master,

I guess everything is muslim vs christian huh? smh so sad

Point Blank, U r a fool if u actually believe that video is real. even the captions of the "militants" in the video looked like a straight fraude, the caption of abdulmutallab looking into the camera for the biggest hollywood stunt ever lol  . By the way why would the camera guy zoom right in on him huh? im thinking at that time being he had the same status as the other "militants" so why the extra special caption? lol.

Oh yeah, and u better believe that this guy is not a real terrorist. he is made up by the US and UK, open ur eyes. If the dude wanted to blow up the plane he would have peacefully. he wouldnt have gotten "caught", a real terrorist would have just gone in the bathroom and blew himself up. and yep everybody would pretty much be dead. Look closely and the video is fake. The boy is no mentallity or the statue of a trained militant smh, oh and wow, the West was real clever in putting in the whole "kill Jews and Christians" thing to make it more believable, Bravo!!!!

Its funny how theyre training in the desert of Yemen when yemen mujahideen militants and saudia arabian army have been fight in that same desert for years and they still are, youtube it lol, even just type in yemen and it'll just pop up. and on top of that both the yemen mujahideen militants and saudia arabian soldiers are all muslim so abdulmutallab couldnt have been over there in the field talking about "kill Jew and Christian"

My Africans and Nigerians dont be fooled all of this that is happening is just the seed for the future excuse of "why we invaded nigeria and brought Africaom", the US has already made nigeria submit to them by forcing them to allow them put air marshalls on their flights! Its all the beginning,



DON'T BE FOOLED!!!!

This act by the northerners may not be tribalism, it may just be them protesting the corruption of this country. However, the question is "what does rice,vegetables, and other crops have to do with cattle?" No part of nigeria should rely or depend on one particular section of the country. Southern states should have back ups(Plan B's) for situations like this. For instance, there are enough of cattle and agriculture in Benin Republic to supply the SW plus the agriculture the SW already have they will be well. The same goes for the whole EAST. The eastern tribes should cut off the supplies from the north and get it from Cameroon, there is more than enough cattle and agriculture to supply them on top of the agriculture the East already has. This would teach the north a grave lesson if this is indeed tribalism

one 1 are old are you. any igbo old you enough , would tell you that portion of land in delta state is own by benin. with a legal document. Go and find out. if you live in london. britian museum is your first start.


Have you heard the name Pat utomi. how many igbo people are utomi.

Utomi was not given that support by ohaneze, because of history. Nigerian children abroad bear white name, it does not change their root.

under law, if i have the legal document to a place, if you live on it for generation. I am still the own of the land, because you are an immigrate. ok here is it. In oyo state, there is a place call ago fulani. It is a town in oyo state.   The town use to be a small villages where fulani separated themself and lived.

You see in lagos, ibadan and ondo etc, we have the place call sabo.    if you are in lagos. you must have heard of sabo in lagos. who first lived in those places where hausas. is ibadan or lagos yorubaland . it is yorubaland.

now in kano, they have the same system,   i am telling obaigbena people are the omo oni ile. owners of the land. igbo only came to farm. go look for people in that area, they would tell you.


on isaac boro. what i mean is,   stop trying to claim ijaw people by force. Let ijaw people be ijaw, they have thier own mind. this is the problem with nigeria. we try to force thing on others, they now hate us.  

The reason you igbo online are so deperate for the ijaws is because of oil.  look myfriend. forget oil.  make una look comot for that place. we get solution. your people would not loss. take my word for it. we know what we are doing. Just vote for the yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa to join benin first.


You dont want nigeria to fall into a war before you save it.
you see we have back up in war, arsenal  emmanuel adebayo is not a NIGERIAN. he is a YORUBAMAN. NOT A NIGERIA.

Can you see the word in togo satellte pictures Agbatope and anago. You can see the size of kano compared to cotonou and lome.

Every time you argue with me I prove you wrong.words of wisdom, never come out unless you're prepared otherwise you'll continue to look and sound dumb,

Why would you use Pat Utomi,who repeatedly says he's Igbo everywhere he goes? Do you know how many people in Anambra have the name Utomi? and Anambra is on the other side, so wut your telling me is Anambra now is owned by Benin Well its not Its Owned by IGBO

Also, since "Utomi" is a benin word or name, since you say its not Igbo im assuming you speak both Benin and Igbo, what is the meaning of "Utomi" in the benin genious?


I bet that you didnt know that Imo and Anambra has connections with the benin kingdom did you?? Being that that is the fact why not include Anabra and Imo in to your Benin/oduduwa republic mess?? You know why u wont its because of your jeslousy and hatred towards the Igbos and oil,

BENIN DOES NOT OWN DELTA IN ANYWAY ESPECIALLY NOT THE IGBO PARTS!!!  


Check and see who helped the white people kill the Benin Empire. OYO Kingdom(Yorubas),  who protected Benin Kingdom men and women when they were fleeing? The Nri Kingdom(Igbos),  so who really is the enemies to the edos,bayelsas,and deltas huhhhhhhh?  

Becomrrich:

how can bayelsa state be igboland. This is Isaac boro, how many igbo people did he kill. tell me the number, how does over 3000 sound to you.

leave ijawland. ijaw people get gun now.

Bayelsa is in Biafra, he didnt say its in Igboland genious!, Is Isaac Boro Yoruba or from oduduwa? No. was he killed by Yorubas? Yes. Were the Igbo the cause of the Odi massacre? No. Were the Yoruba? Yes

Tit for Tat    

9jaganja:

Ohanaeze did a wrong thing. He should have just sent the condolence to all Haitians. That was a silly and inconsiderate condolence


@ Aloy, it's not Ekiti pupa they call it. The real Ekiti folks will say Ekiti pipa instead of kpu kpa hahahahaahhahaha

Don't pay attention to the HEADLINERS pay attention to the QUOTES.The quotes are the real words! None of the Ohanaeze leaders said that they weren't giving condolences to the entire country of Haiti. They are saying that haitians are of igbo extractions like history does show and also Haiti came to the rescue of Igbos during the civil war, so haiti will never be forgotten by their Igbo brothers.

IGBO JEALOUSY IS CRAZY     

The problem is not whether islam is a religion of terror, the problem is how to stop the killings. A major step is to get rid of the almajiris school however its dont be it by destruction by weapons or by security forces.outlaw it, if they want to teach the koran to children let the parents teach their kids at home or just attend regular jamaats just like sunday prayors for christians

Obviously there is no way that you(general) can predict the break up of a country unless you have a hand or will have a hand in it. Not possible. Nigerian government is aware of whats going on but they are to stuck on themselves to care. If they break up nigeria and use "islamic terrorist harborers" fine. They dont do anything to keep innocent people from being killed in the North so the U.S. is welcome to come in and divide the country.More people can keep their lives. Its funny how southern governors can give immediate protection at the drop of a dime to Northerners but Northern governors dont and dont care to

@ Becommrich

I definitely here where you're coming from but Nigeria is no longer a federation. I agree with most of the things you said. If things actually was like that trust things would be better and Yorubas possibly would have had their own country by now. Theres one thing that messed it up and that unity among the southerners in the 60's.

Two people, which you can't really blame them because they had to do what they had to do, are the main cause of this thats happening today. Awolowo and Ojukwu. If those in the south would have been more patient and worked together they could have done major damage and both the West and the East could have been living like kings

However, Awolowo wanted to do his own coup and overthrown the government but it never took off and he was thrown in jail for it. Ojukwu actually help him get out of jail but what happened? He stabbed him in the back and starved his people. Awolowo told the government that he wanted all troop to leave Yorubaland but they refused so instead of fighting he saught to fight with nigeria.

Ojukwu: was given an offer,which he could have used against Nigeria.Nigeria was going to let the East have there own military and basically the east was going to have there own country in nigeria, That is the way federations work. However ojukwu decided to leave nigeria,which I dont blame him at all, but if he had agreed, he could have stayed in nigeria and built the Eastern army up and prepared them more then later declared a seperate state from nigeria. At the time he and Gen. Effiong were both youths so of course they werent going to make the right decisions.

Look if you want Oduduwa Republic you better learn unity,which means uniting with the Igbos or else you can forget about it. Theres really no need for seperate nations now if the south gets full control and makes the north feel it bad then the north will happily leave

Becomrrich:

Stop telling people lies. There is nothing like south south. Show us in the Nigeria constitution. Please post it. It is a propaganda machine used by the north in divide and rule.

But I can show you in the nigeria previous nigeria constitution that has 4 region.

If you look at the satellite pictures it is obvious where majority of nigeria lives but they get less than the minority.

The North created 419 local area (counties) for themself
created for the east 167
created for the west 137
created for the Mid west 51


Final revenue sharing goes like this.

north get 67%
East get 10%

West get 7.7%
Mid west get 3.4%

Wow, EVERYBODY IM A LIAR NOW! This guy calls me a liar because I stated the facts in an unbias way. Pls everyone take a stroll and read my response to what he posted see what hes talking about.

You say theres no south south it is a divide and rule scheme of the north. You're funny because the West, East, and Mid West are all in the south yet here you are deviding them( LIKE THE NORTH).Pull it 2gether omo. Instead of you dividing the regions into those 3 areas why dont you just call them THE SOUTH(LIKE THE North does THE NORTH)?? Thats food for thought,

Also 4 regions? why are you still adhering to things done during the post-independents/Biafra days what a joke . Your over here telling me you'll show me in a previous nigerian constitution meaning that there is a different one presently and your want to go by one thats not even valid anymore, Pls dont be a clown

Becomrrich:

I know How Urhobo people feel. All pictures are to same scale.

The yoruba and the Mid west have been cheated in state creation.

While
Nigeria constitution had four region

North
West
Mid West
East


The North created 419 local area (counties) for themself
created for the west 137
created for the Mid west 51
created for the east 167




The North created 19 news state + abuja for themself
created for the West got 4 new states
created for the Mid west got 2 new states
created for the East got 8 new states





The North got 19 news state. 20 plus abuja
Abuja
Adamawa
Bauchi
Benue
Borno
Gombe
Imo
Jigawa
Kaduna
Kano
Katsina
Kebbi
Kogi
Kwara
Nasarawa
Niger
Plateau
Sokoto
Taraba
Yobe



Mid west got 2 new states
Bayelsa
Delta


West got 4 new states

Ekiti
Ogun
Ondo
Osun


East got 8 new states
Ebonyi
Cross River
Abia
Anambra
Enugu
Akwa Ibom
Rivers


So you can see the inbalance that need to be corrected.

Our previous constitution only have 4 region

First thing. Since when is IMO STATE in the NORTH?! . Second Cross Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Rivers are in the south-south just like bayelsa,edo and delta state so wut are u talking about. Point Blank don't try to act like Yorubas are more marginalised than the East cause we all know thats not true. the East only has 5 states while other geographical zones, which includes your Yoruba land, have more.

Also, your calculation don't make sense. why do you combine northern local areas then divide southern local areas?? if you were to divide the northern local areas like youre doin the south in terms of NW,NE, and Middle Belt it would definitely have way less that the the gap wouldnt be as huge as you make it. also, being that Akwa Ibom, Cross River, and Rivers arent considered eastern states take those local goverment areas out of the east and you will see that the Igbos have virtually none when compared the the 137 the west(Yorubas) have to themsslves so wut are you saying. Food for thought keep your day job

Why do you keep insisting on including bayelsa and delta? the majority in these places are Ijaws and Igbos and they both think that Yorubas are untrustworthy and cowards so why would you want those kind of people to join you?? Also, the Ijaw in ondo state continue to give yall problem with taking your land and killing your people. Edo is where you may get the luck from. Also, the itsekiri in Delta State because they are Yorubas too. And i hope you are aware that the Urhobo and Ijaws hate the itsekiri with a passion and vice versa. GO HOME AND DO SOME MORE RESEARCH

_{IMO is in the North, you're funny lol}

xynerise:

At least OBJ has a farm that created employment for his people. And your begger father in Aba is so lazy to work in the farm like his age mate do.

Wow, it ceases to amaze me how Africans always get so emotional, That comment is one that a baby would make . OBJ has a farm that he made to feed himself, it was not started to bring employment to his people. Sorry but he doesn't get a Nobel Peace Prize for that . and anyways lots of nigerias have farms which they bring employment, so wuts the point. and its a known fact that Igbos dont beg even after the war "and it is documented so google or yahoo it up" that there were no beggars in Igboland. So the beggar who you talk about in Aba are non-Igbos. By the way Lazy and Igbos dont mix, especially lazy and Igbos from Aba .

@diobi

You are right, so with all that you are saying,if i was to begin a group that would to all that you are talking about would you be ready to join? Talk is cheap, don't run from the opportunity, would you honestly join or just talk off at the mouth like internet warriors?

@ mwanamwiwa

Sorry we dont care about kenya or the other side of Africa. So leave Nigerian politics!!!

check out Switzerland. the size of each would be significantly larger to give it political weight and the functions a lg could enlarged and clearly defined. thus better and more responsible federal system. check out southern sudan too.

If it betters the country im all 4 it, the way that the country is set up now is not helping so it wouldnt hurt to try this approach,which is sumthing kind of new.if sh#t F's up during this change, every pat should go its way