WarriAproko:
who owns the word warri assume as corrupt word from the Portuguese first ment the Itsekiris in river in ode Itsekiri which is iwere kingdom and they called it warri before coming to land and found other kingdoms and name it warri Province then.the olu was known as olu of iwere kingdom.by court judgment the name iwere kingdom as warri kingdom is a corrupt word and no meanings.The word warri is just a political word binding the lga and kingdom. So stop ur blinds arguments. There are warri city lands which is occupied mainly by other kingdoms. Example we have Oba of lagos which only rule some minor places and not the whole of lagos. We have other kingdoms in same lagos. So whats ur argument. Besides warri south have more lands than the other warri lga.

All what you said here i have said before i am not arguing i have cited examples on Port Harcourt, Oba of Lagos, Supreme Court Cases on ownership and even gave an example called Urban Primacy as to the Warri subject matter.

Again i say, concerning ownership of Warri please refer to the court verdict. Thanks

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WarriAproko:
they only lame claim to the name warri. And not to the lands in warri. The word warri they assume is a corrupted word from iwere. So dont argue what u dont know. As they knows were their boundaries end. Or u forgot that there are other kingdoms in warri. If other tribes decide to rename their territories nothing will happen. The word warri is just holding the local government. The court case was only ownership to the word warri as they assume is a corrupt word iwere.

Sir.
1. Itsekiris have always called their Homelands Ale-Iwere and it has been seen in Journals written by the British, Portuguese etc long before colonization started

2. I have said times without number i am not arguing land issues here (if need be i will stick to the final court judgements which some are in favour of Itsekiris and vice versa)

3. The word Warri to you may be just a local government but the Itsekiris have called any land that they re aborigines to Iwere that's what i have been trying to explain to you sir

4. That there are other kingdoms in Warri is not disputed that's why i said the subject matter of who owns Warri should be referred to the final court judgements as listed in my 2nd point here

5. I am not arguing i am just stating facts



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WarriAproko:
lols. Which is the area

First i would like you to please refer to all the court cases involving Itsekiri and the Urhobos concerning Warri

WarriAproko:
he is only ruler to the itskeris. The other tribes have their kingdoms and he can't decide so stop saying trash. Their land is just a small kingdom. They are tenants in warri city

Like i said in the subject matter of who owns Warri, it has been settled in the court cases
That's my point i am trying to buttress to you. No need to start throwing shades
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WarriAproko:
ok. Whose people is the olu lordship over

The Olu of Warri is lord over all Itsekiris and the areas which the supreme court has passed judgements over in favour of the Olu

WarriAproko:
nah. Udu uvwue and okpe are not warri. They are just other town close to warri

Don't get it mixed up..
I was typing before my phone went off sir.

There's a principle of Geography, there is what they call urban primacy, where a city envelopes its neighbouring towns due to development and other vices (Port Harcourt is a very classic example) . Now in the case of Warri, those LGAs i mentioned are just trying to catch up just to get a form of identity.
I never said the Olu of Warri has lordship over those areas

davidque:

Thanks for the expose. Clearly Ayiri had some other princes in his support and was working to get them on the throne, that would have meant that he would have a stooge to control as king.

Things like this have happened infact anytime a king dies internal conflicts happen all the time.

Something like this happened and there was an interregnum for 88 years where Itsekiri had no King.
So it's nothing new it will surely die down trust me

richiepolymer:


Uvwie has an Ovie (King), same with Udu and Okpe. So how do they fall under warri? If these towns you mentioned have their traditional rulers and are recognized by govt and their people, how then do you make it sound like they are under the leadership of the Olu. This is the reason why that title should actually be "Olu of Itsekiri". Warri is a town, Itsekiri transcends Ode Itsekiri. Anyways...what do I know? Shed light on it.

Maybe i didn't explain my last point well due to power failure as i was rushing to type.

Let's use Lagos as an example
Oba Akiolu is known as Oba of Lagos right?
To outsiders and those who don't know anything about it they will assume it covers the entire lagos state.
That's the same notion most people get when they hear Olu of Warri

victons:

Is it supported by higher courts

It's just like asking the king to seek a court injunction to name someone a chief

airsaylongcome:


This your moniker! I'm Urhobo but I'm almost certain say na your brother marry Otota of Udu first daughter

Yes he is my brother
Late Chief Sido

THE OLU HAS NO SECOND IN COMMAND.

For lack of critical understanding, Ill advice, day dreaming and thirst for power drunkenness, some persons had confusedly ascribed either to themselves, or accepted the appellation of 'second in command' from psycomphants whom they have surrounded themselves with. In reality, the Olu has no second in command, as there is neither a deputy Olu or a Vice to the Olu.

This confused philosophy is chiefly responsible for the recent rowdy behaviour of certain chiefs, who assumed that they could step into the shoes of the Olu, in the event of his indisposition, and exercise the functions of that office. The height of which was manifested when chiefs went about, claiming to be representing the Indisposed Olu, and acting in his stead, or even ascribing to themselves the powers to disqualify the unanimous choice of the royal house, instead of leaving the decision to qualify or disqualify in the hands of the gods.

The Olu emerges from the royals (Oton Olu), and the chiefs emerge from the people (Omajaja). In our traditional set up, the highest the people can become is a chief while the highest the royals can become is a King. One doesn't cross to the other. All the chiefs, irrespective of their titles are merely aids, servants or messengers to the Olu, and nothing more. Therefore, if the Olu will have any second in command, it can only be someone who is next in line to the throne, and certainly not any chief.
THE OLU HAS NO SECOND IN COMMAND.

For lack of critical understanding, Ill advice, day dreaming and thirst for power drunkenness, some persons had confusedly ascribed either to themselves, or accepted the appellation of 'second in command' from psycomphants whom they have surrounded themselves with. In reality, the Olu has no second in command, as there is neither a deputy Olu or a Vice to the Olu.

This confused philosophy is chiefly responsible for the recent rowdy behaviour of certain chiefs, who assumed that they could step into the shoes of the Olu, in the event of his indisposition, and exercise the functions of that office. The height of which was manifested when chiefs went about, claiming to be representing the Indisposed Olu, and acting in his stead, or even ascribing to themselves the powers to disqualify the unanimous choice of the royal house, instead of leaving the decision to qualify or disqualify in the hands of the gods.

The Olu emerges from the royals (Oton Olu), and the chiefs emerge from the people (Omajaja). In our traditional set up, the highest the people can become is a chief while the highest the royals can become is a King. One doesn't cross to the other. All the chiefs, irrespective of their titles are merely aids, servants or messengers to the Olu, and nothing more. Therefore, if the Olu will have any second in command, it can only be someone who is next in line to the throne, and certainly not any chief.

For Clarity Sake On The Issue Of Prime Minister, Ologbotsere and Iyatsere Position.

By Adrian O. Edema

1. There is no office of prime minister in Warri kingdom. If there is, who elected the Prime minister and his ministers? Prime Minister is always a product of election.

2. Up till 1846 the Iyatsere was always the most ranked chief in Warri Kingdom.
Read history of Itsekiri by William Moore 1936 and the work of Captain Jean Landolph published in 1820 and Niger Delta Rivalry by Obaro Ikime

3. The Monarch system in Warri Kingdom is totally different from that of England.
In England the Prime minister is elected as the party head and into the government. His other ministers are also elected. The prime minister give portfolio to the other ministers and they run the government of the day. This is why he is called Prime Minister. The prime minister is minister to the people.

In Warri Kingdom all the Chiefs are appointed by the Olu at his own discretion.
The highest ranking chief does not have power to give portfolio to any other chief.
The chiefs are tittle holders of the king not of the people this is why they are called Ojoye Baba.

The Chiefs are also responsible only to the Oba not to the people.

The most rank chief does not have the power to drop any chief as they are all co equals.

4. Historically Ologbotsere has never been among the top 5 chiefs in the kingdom.
Again read History of Itsekiri by William Moore.

davidque:


Not at all, Ayiri's removal was tied to his insistence that Tsola Emiko could not be the next king simply because his mother is yoruba (Ijebu). According to him there is a law in their land that prevents anyone whose mother isn't from itsekiri or bini land to be king. Even Tsola's father was king and his wife was yoruba. Ayiri is in court now on this matter. Lets all observe how it proceeds. Please be properly informed, don't aid the spread of falsehood.

The said law was enacted in 1979 Bendel State which is now defunct. The Nigerian constitution supercedes.
When a king dies, the Ruling house selects whom they feel should rule. The role of the Ologbotsere is to announce and not to enforce his choice Candidate

Oju4190:
The king mother is from Ondo state his wife is from Edo state....he is not suppose to b a king in Itsekiri kindom according to deir tradition.........Itsekiri Kingdom will soon hear from deir ancestors.

Contrary to that it was a law put in place in 1979 under the defunct Bendel state.
When a King dies, the family selects their most preferred Candidate whom is presented before the oracle, the oracle has the final say because it is done in private and public
All these were done and it validated the current Olu of Warri Ogiame Atuwatse III.


Disgrunted elements are unhappy because they have lost their control and power

airsaylongcome:


Long story. There was a traddition were only Princes born of Itsekiri or Bini mothers can ascend the throne. The current king was born of a Yoruba mother and Ayiri wasn't having any of that. Funny how Itsekiri who descend from Yoruba cannot have a Yoruba as mother

And


It was not a tradition.
Atuwatse I had a Portuguese Mother so how do you go about that?
Ginuwa I married an Ijaw woman. The said law was an edict created in 1979 under the defunct Bendel State which no longer exist

Coldie:
Who are the true owners of warri?

Does it belong to the itsekiris?

1. Warri is a corruption of Iwere, as the Itsekiri know their homelands up till date.
2. Itsekiris refer to themselves as Oma-Iwere (child of iwere)
3. European contacts from the Portuguese to the English has corrupted the name to Ouerre, Warre, Wari and Warri as it is today ( same follows for places like Ibani called Bonny etc)
4. Warri as a town covers current day Udu,Okpe, Uvwie, and some parts of Warri South LGA (just like we have Port Harcourt which covers a vast land mass)
5. Most people saying Warri belongs to this or that, should please refer to the court judgements and maintain their boundaries

victons:

Which law?

The law that binds the king to appoint and depose chiefs

Felicity001:


Who is this Ayiri even? Is it the same person as thr Ayiri the oil billionaire in Delta State that helped pay Majek Fasheck medical bill at some time? or am I missing something up here?

Billionaire well i cannot say, yes he is the one that helped pay the bills for Majek Fashek
He is just a busy body chief that likes all the attention to himself.

otokx:
Will he be banished from Warri?

He will be deposed and restrained from answering the title as a chief and if he is stubborn he will be dealt with by the law.


Although expect a last minute drama from Ayiri

Jerryherd:
That's something about youths in power.. the leadership is swift..

Few weeks into his leadership he has started forming his new Cabinets and council of chief, to govern together

By tradition when a new king ascends the throne it is mandatory for all chiefs to come pay fealty to the monarch. It was done by his predecessor and it has been like that since day one it's not about been young.

Ayiri has not been kicked out yet ooo
He is scheduled to do the needful tomoro.
Its a one week event.
Stop raising false alarms

Itsekiri has 66 chiefs who have been allotted to come pay fealty to the crown at specific days which started yesterday.
Thanks

Efewestern:
Tsola Emiko is Itsekiri's 21st OLU. No doubt, the young king has prepared for this moment and he is indeed made for the throne.

Last night, i stumbled upon a tweet of him were he explained the meaning of the title "Atuwatse".

Atuwatse when translated into English means "The one Who restores Wealth"

For future purpose he is to be addressed as Ogiame Atuwatse III.
Thank you

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