I believe they are the same thing, the major difference is that a software engineer is a professional software developer, he or she knows the ethics and official stages of programming but a software developer is anyone that can code.
People don't really know that there is an official and right way of writing code so it will be presentable and readable to people, a software engineer know how to write this kind of code but a developer might have learnt coding in his room and writes rough code, this code will work but its not ethically written.

Please let everyone forget that case and make peace, let us all agree to disagree and move forward with helping each other. Thanks everyone

Goldengift94:
congratulations...please what documents did you submitted for her?

Marriage certificate
Her birth certificate
TB test
Bank statement
Two family pictures( not wedding pix though)
The employment letter and notification of employment- this is just to prove we live together.
Birth certificate was to prove her maiden name because we didnt have change of name.

I have a question for my fellow nairalanders, if a PBS dependant visa is issued, is it a must that the dependants will travel with me (the main applicant) or can she travel on a later date, she was given normal 1 month entry clearance like me with the same valid dates ? thanks

EkpeEkpe:
Wow. Was it standard or priority service?

It was standard, it just came out today and she was granted the visa.
Timeline:
Submitted online application: 31 July
Biometrics: 7 August
Passport collection mail: 4 September
Visa was issued for PBS dependant

EkpeEkpe:
How long does it take to process a tier 4 dependent visa? Has anyone here processed this before? Any idea anyone, please? My family is expected to join me.

processing for my wife but her application has been with UKVI for up to 20 working days now, I don't understand the delay.. Tier 4 dependant should take the normal waiting time for any other Visa application.

cerezo:
I want to appeal to us to lessen the attacks and threats. I dont get to read comments like this on other forums. Let us argue constructively and provide proofs where possible. For those that have power to withdraw other people privileges, lets not scare people away from voicing their mind. We all learn by speaking out.

I have taken my time to read the whole question and solutions proferred from the moment it came up. I am yet to see anything wrong with the op going ahead to submit his application as long as the statement is not older than 31 days and the balance didnt drop below the mark for the 28 days. I have read the whole tier 4 guidelines, i am yet to see where it is written that the money must be in your account after the 28 days. I stand to be corrected and many folks who have gotten their visas here can testify to this. You may argue that it was stated that the money must be available to you for your study whilst in the uk. But i havent met many people who keep money in savings or current account forever.

To fulfil the 28 days requirement, people liquidate interest yielding mutual funds, treasury bills, fixed deposits etc. Once you fulfil the 28 days, i believe there's nothing wrong in moving your funds back to these security instruments even while your application is being considered.

Just so that you know, the banks are not obliged to disclose any account balance to any visa office other than to confirm authenticity of the bank statement presented. This is the reason why visa officers look at trend and not closing balance which often time could have changed before the application is been considered.

For tier4 visa, the 28-day rule is simply 28 days of maintaining a certain balance nothing more. The ukvi knows many folks do all sort to raise this fund including borrowing, but they have also deviced means to combat that by demanding the sponsor i.e the school report every irregularity if any is observed to the home office immediately after you resume in school.

Please lets educate ourselves by being open and factual, and not by intimidation for no man knows it all.

Oga or Madam, thank you so much, I couldn't have said it better, you answered it perfectly. ThankGod their are people like you in this thread. @Justwise, anytime you feel like removing me, you are more than free, I gladly welcome it, you have already started by deleting my post. Thank you

Another thing is that this thread or nairaland in general will never grow if when someone challenges your opinion by arguing against it, you then threaten to remove that individuals posting privileges, I know argument or debate leads to knowledge growth, what if am right and you are wrong or if am wrong and you right, you would have just explained to everyone why you believe its bad for him to have used part of the money because I explained the disadvantage of using the money but sighting it won't prevent him from securing his visa. The funny thing is that I answered the question because I pitied the OPs situation. Please I believe everyone here is an adult and know constructive argument only leads to growth but I still promise never to answer any questions in nairaland because of justwise. Even the girl that wanted her stepfather to sponsor her, I knew the answer to her issue and kept quiet. Thanks

justwise:
@Onyebuenyim

If you don't stop using this thread to encourage the abuse of student rule your posting privilege will be removed.

Do whatever you like with your application but never come here trying to encourage others to do the same.

@Justwise, don't mean any offence by my posts but a lawyer from UK Council for International Student Affairs was where I got my information from. That is a white woman lawyer, she was stressing that students don't understand immigration laws but I guess you can remove my posting privileges for posting something an immigration lawyer clarified..instead of just asking me where I got my information from. I can understand you have read all the laws of tier 4 visa, so have I. I can remember a part that stated that the money should be available even after your application but you are misunderstanding that statement, that was the statement the woman clarified. Normally i dont answer questions on nairaland, even when i know the answer, i only selfishly ask questions and from now, i will stop answering questions again. Thanks

justwise:


This is all nonsense, you do not touch the money until you get to the UK, all these excuses doesn't cut it.

Oga or madam, you don't know how wrong you are, read up more, it is not even UKVI business what happens to the money, they just want to know you have funding for staying in their country, so spending a bit of the money is not wrong

TallTony75:


Please be patient, it will definitely come. I have cousin that was in the same situation, the was wife was his dependent her visa came a week after his own.

Thanks for the reply

Please I am a bit worried about my wifes visa..we applied the same day but her biometrics was 2 days after mine on the 7th of august, mine was 5th and my visa was out on the 27th but hers is not yet out till now. Is a normal occurrence, I initially thought the both will come out almost the same day or close together, hers is already 15 working days and counting. Please is this normal

Kairosmoment:
A note of appreciation to all the Brilliant minds here.

My dependent Daughter and I got our Trier 4 Visas today

Here is the Timeline:

30/7/19 booked walk in Premium Lounge and for myself and Prime Time for my daughter

30/7/19 we submitted documents through self-service and enrolled biometrics.

31/7 & 1/8 Application received by Visainfo.Shefo

16/8/19 Decision made by UKVI

26/8/19 Documents received and sent via DHL

27/819 am smilling, dancing and filled the Joy of the Lord because Baba ti sé o


Vital Lesson: utilize practical wisdom in gathering and analysing sound information gotten through internet and the Tier 4 Visa Guidance document found here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/822984/T4_Migrant_Guidance_August_2019_.pdf

You need more of sound wisdom than presumptive faith.

Selah.

If you are travelling to Nottingham or UK very soon, let's talk.

Can you also tell me the documents you uploaded for your dependant daughter

Kairosmoment:
A note of appreciation to all the Brilliant minds here.

My dependent Daughter and I got our Trier 4 Visas today

Here is the Timeline:

30/7/19 booked walk in Premium Lounge and for myself and Prime Time for my daughter

30/7/19 we submitted documents through self-service and enrolled biometrics.

31/7 & 1/8 Application received by Visainfo.Shefo

16/8/19 Decision made by UKVI

26/8/19 Documents received and sent via DHL

27/819 am smilling, dancing and filled the Joy of the Lord because Baba ti sé o


Vital Lesson: utilize practical wisdom in gathering and analysing sound information gotten through internet and the Tier 4 Visa Guidance document found here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/822984/T4_Migrant_Guidance_August_2019_.pdf

You need more of sound wisdom than presumptive faith.

Selah.

If you are travelling to Nottingham or UK very soon, let's talk.

Nottingham, what's up?

Saarah:




Congratulations . When did they email you that a decision has been made on your application?

today, 27 August, around 1pm so I just went there, it's close to my place

Please I have a question?
As i have gotten my visa, what are the chances that my dependant wife will get hers, worried for her application as we didn't add any pictures for proof of relationship only marriage certificate. Thanks

I have gotten my visa, I ThankGod and thank everyone in this thread for their help
Biometrics and interview : 5th august
Sheffield mail: 6th
Collection mail: 27th

geofelx:

Yours is far better than mine (situation), I did biometrics since 26th July, until now I haven't gotten any email from UKVI, it's been officially 20 working days now (30 days including Saturdays and Sundays and today's UK public holiday). Although I called UKVI on Thursday last week, I was told my application is awaiting decision and that it will be escalated, not even sure what that means exactly. Is here any body who did biometrics in IKeja VAC on the 26th of July, 2019 who is in my shoes ?

it is well

This my visa is tiring, this is 21 days and still no collection mail, counting working days, its 15 working days..... I hope this is not a bad sign. What steps should I take??

Zoey1:
If you read the guidelines and somebody else got decision same day or 2days or 1week, knowing that you did Standard, it will not bother you.

It will because am anxious to know what the decision is or will be...

Zoey1:
Did you read any guide about Tier 4 visa processing time?
If you did ,we won't see this question.

I don't mean to boast but am sure I have read everything readable online about tier 4 Visa. The issue is that many people on standard service got their passport back within 10 days. So I was expecting the same, its not that I don't know the normal time for standard service. Thanks

Emeraldvoque:
You might need to patiently wait for the stipulated 15 working days to elapse. I had my biometrics and credibility interview via Standard application on 31st July, received Sheffield mail on 1st August and still patiently waiting for the collection mail.
All the best.

Thanks, I will graciously wait, just hope it turns out well

Who is going to De Montfort University? And Can you tell me how much their initial deposit is for CAS ?

I applied for tier 4 visa with my wife as a dependant, did my interview and biometrics on august 5th and she did her biometrics on 7th august... I got Sheffield mail on 6th august and she got hers on 10th august.. I have been waiting for a collection mail but still nothing.. We both did standard service.. Please can anyone shed more light on my situation.

kayceerilyn:
Turns out this is the only thing I needed for the passport collection....

Did you get the Visa ?

When your application arrives at Sheffield, how long does it take to get a decision

duni04:

Just pray and let it go. It may turn out to be a minor omission that they'll overlook.

Amen, I pray, God please help me, let me rejoice at the end of it all

ayoalebiosu:

Thanks for your respond...
They deducted 997.50 usedoller from my account and by my calculation that is £812 which is more than your breakdown.

I think that's same amount with what they deducted from me for two years too

duni04:

Then you're left with hope. Just pray it's a minor omission that won't eventually count.

Thanks a lot for responding to me but I wish there is something I can do about it, truly its weighing on me, couldn't even sleep