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Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 2:01am On Apr 12, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:Creationism is not science, it is a religious belief. There is no demonstrable evidence that the universe was created by a supernatural being. Creationism is rejected by the scientific community and evolution is accepted by it. I am going to say this one more time, since you are so monumentally freaking frustrating to have a discussion with. 1. Atheism is not a religion or a worldview. It is simply a rejection to the claim that a particular god exists. We are all atheists in some form. You are an atheist when referring to any other religious gods, like the Hindu gods or the Greek gods. I am an atheist when referring to all gods since there is no demonstrable evidence to say otherwise. Analogies, verses in the Bible, the Bible itself, so called "miracles" (which cannot be tested), diagrams that just have words on them are not forms of demonstrable evidence. 2. Evolution is a scientific theory (a FACT!) and is not a religion or worldview. It does not seek out to explain the origin of life or even to prove or disprove god's existence. It is simply an explanation of how organisms change over time. You do not know what science is, so you do not have the right to claim that it confirms that validity of the bible or that god exists. I am done with your ignorance. Whenever you do find out what science actually is and that it can be used to demonstrate that your Bronze Age beliefs are true, you will be be ready to have an intelligent and rational conversation with me |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 1:33am On Apr 12, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:Well at least you know what an analogy is. This ANALOGY does not go over my head, thank you. Just as much as the Chronicles of Narnia doesn't go over my head. This is simply an analogy with the use of simple geometric concepts. It fails to prove anything scientifically. Also, you do not understand what science is. Please give me your definition of science. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 12:58am On Apr 12, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:There is mountains of evidence for evolution Here are some writings on the evidence: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-research.html and wikipedia has compiled evidence (with links for verification at the bottom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent Evolution is a fact. Evolution is a scientific (a word you do not seem to understand) explanation on how organisms change over time (for example how both modern day humans and chimpanzees evolved from a common ancestor). It is not a worldview and it does not give an explanation on the origin of life, just how life has changed over time. My atheism has nothing to do with be accepting that evolution is a fact. I am an evolutionist because I adhere to the theory of evolution. Also, you can be a christian and also accept evolution So please, stop comparing evolution to christianity as if both are at the same level of validity and both are worldviews. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 12:42am On Apr 12, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:This is not science. Please demonstrate this with a testable explanation following the scientific method. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 12:36am On Apr 12, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe. Evolution is the change of organisms over time. I can confidently say that no one, with demonstrable evidence, knows the exact origins of the universe at the moment. OLAADEGBU:My lack of belief in any god has nothing to do with whether or not I know the answer to the origin of the universe. Atheism is a rejection of the claim that a god exists. This rejection is based on the fact that there is no demonstrable evidence that a particular god exists. I never said with absolute certainty that god does not exist nor do i claim that. Therefore in this case the claims maker has the burden of proof, not me (the claim rejector). For example, if I told you that I am the richest man in the world, what would be the default position to take? It would be to reject the claim that I have made until I can demonstrate that I had more money than anyone else. OLAADEGBU:What is exactly there for everyone to see? What have the 5 billion non-christian in the wold have failed to see? I think at this point it is fair to say that you are making the claim that god exists. As the claims maker it is your responsibility to demonstrate that and not mine. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 11:45pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
Sweetnecta:I am an atheist, so I do not believe in any gods. The Bible is full of contradictions, this being one of them for example: Is Jesus equal to or lesser than? JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one. JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. The idea that god had to send himself (or his son, depending on your interpretation) to be sacrificed in order to forgive the sins of humanity is absurd. If god is all powerful, why couldn't he just skip that step and just forgive us all for our sins? |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 11:33pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:An evolutionist has no clue what real science is all about, The most widely agreed conclusions about evolution are the BEST examples of what science is all about. Evolutionary biologists conform to real science, the same science that is responsible for the medicine that you take to STAY ALIVE. And I love how you clumped the words "atheist" and "evolutionists" together to add a negative connotation to both of them. Atheism is basically the rejection of the claim that a god exists based on a lack of evidence. But since we are on the topic, please demonstrate to anyone here how the four corners referred to in the Bible mean North, South, East, and West (scientifically). |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 11:16pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
Sweetnecta:When I said judeo-christian god, I meant the god of the old and new testament. In other words, the god as mentioned in the Bible. I believe that is what Olaadegbu is referring to. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 11:11pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
OLAADEGBU:No one at the moment is able to tell you, with absolute certainty, how the universe originated. That is irrelevant to the question. The burden of proof as to whether or not God exists falls on the claims maker and not on the person that rejects it. Just because no one has the answer to the origin of the universe, doesn't mean that it gives more validity to the existence of God. So please, answer the question. |
Religion / Re: Science Confirms The Bible by particles: 10:52pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
Can anyone, I mean ANYONE, please tell me how science confirms the most essential part of the Bible, the existence of the judeo-christian god? I can't believe that my fellow Nigerians are so backwards. We are capable of so much, yet religion holds us all back from rational thinking. |
Religion / Re: Have You Praised Him Yet, Today? by particles: 4:19pm On Apr 11, 2011 |
Has anyone criticized him for all of your misfortunes, today? |
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