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Religion / Re: Olumba Olumba Disagrees With Christians On Death, Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by PeterChrist: 9:31pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
The op is very ignorant and is committing an anachronistic and semantic fallacy. The Jewish people, even in Jesus' day, did not express time as Westerners do. They expressed things in round numbers. They considered any part of a day, however small, as a full day when it was included with a period of days. Thus, they counted the day on which any period began as the first day, and then they did the same thing on the day the period ended. The "Jewish Encyclopedia," Vol.4, pg.474, confirms this method of reckoning time. It reads, "A short time in the morning of the seventh day counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though, of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day." Now, let us look at some examples in the Bible: Gen 42.16: "And he put them all in custody for THREE DAYS. On the THIRD DAY, Joseph said to them, "Do this and you will live, for I fear God" and they are released ON that day (from the context of verses 25-26). 1 Kings 20.29: "For SEVEN DAYS they camped opposite each other, and on the SEVENTH DAY the battle was joined. " Esther 4.16: "Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Do not eat or drink for THREE DAYS, night or day. I and my maids will fast as you do. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. And if I perish, I perish.'" And then in 5.1: "On THE THIRD DAY Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the palace, in front of the king's hall. " In this case, "on the third day" is equivalent to "for three days, night or day". Now compare with this passage in the NT: Matt 27.63-64: ""Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ` After THREE DAYS I will rise again.' So give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the THIRD DAY. " Note that 'after three days' was somehow equivalent to 'until the third day' (not 'until the fourth day'). So, in conclusion, we read this phrase "three days and three nights" as a figure of speech, not a specific time measurement,understandable in the Jewish mindset more readily than in our Western way of thinking. Therefore, the op remains invalid. |
Education / Re: Hijab: MURIC Denounces The Action Of The JAMB Invigilators And Supervisors by PeterChrist: 12:07pm On Apr 16, 2019 |
Khaleell001: First the Arabic numerals came from the Hindu mathematicians and not from Arab Muslims. It was the Arab merchants who introduced the numeral digits to the western world but they adopted the numerals from Hindus. (This very same Hindus who are being oppressed by Muslims in the Eastern world). Second, Christians are always on their guard any time you Muslims are trying to islamize the country. We all know what our brothers experienced in states dominated by Islam, the hell they pass through daily yet you southern Muslims never cautioned your fellow Jihadis in the North. What you always do is to play the victim of every normal circumstances. Moreover, there is no evidence to prove that the invigilators in Lagos were Christians or that they prevented the girl because of religion. They did it to curb Exam malpractice. However, since JAMB had granted Muslims the authority to put on hijab during exam (which is no surprise because the Registrar is a fanatic Muslim), let's just sit down and see exam malpractice sky-rocket again (mind you, Christians and others too do put on hijab). As time goes, you Muslims will start pressurizing JAMB to approve the use of niqab in Jamb CBT centres. I'm watching. |
Education / Re: Hijab: MURIC Denounces The Action Of The JAMB Invigilators And Supervisors by PeterChrist: 4:37pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Khaleell001: And by the way, why don't you sit down and let me educate you on how and why Muhammad imposed hijab upon women? The sequence of the events leading to the revelation of hijab is in five stages: 1. Umar repeatedly asks Muhammad that Allah should reveal verses for the Qur'an pertaining to the veiling of women. 2. No such revelation is sent down. 3. Umar follows Muhammad's wives one night when they go out to relieve themselves (go to the toilet) and calls out to Muhammad's wife Sauda. 4. Sauda goes home in a state of embarrassment and relates to Muhammad what has happened. 5. Allah then reveals the hijab verse as Umar had wanted all along. Below are the hadiths where Umar boasted that Allah agreed with his own advice. Narrated Umar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons enter upon you, so I suggest that you order the mothers of the Believers (i.e. your wives) to observe veils." Then Allah revealed the Verses of Al-Hijab. Sahih Bukhari 6:60:313 Ibn Umar reported Umar as saying: My lord concorded with (my judgments) on three occasions. In case of the Station of Ibrahim, in case of the observance of veil and in case of the prisoners of Badr. Sahih Muslim 31:5903 At first, Muhammad did not agree with Umar but Umar took some actions in order to compel Allah to reveal the verse. Umar started spying on Muhammad's wives by following them to the toilet!!! Narrated 'Aisha: The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. 'Umar used to say to the Prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the Prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady. 'Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes). Sahih Bukhari 1:4:148 Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1) Sahih Bukhari 8:74:257 Then hijab was made compulsory for women when Muhammad started getting suspicious that some of his followers are getting attracted to his wives as the hadiths below demonstrates: Narrated Anas: A banquet of bread and meat was held on the occasion of the marriage of the Prophet to Zainab bint Jahsh. I was sent to invite the people (to the banquet), and so the people started coming (in groups); They would eat and then leave. Another batch would come, eat and leave. So I kept on inviting the people till I found nobody to invite. Then I said, "O Allah's Prophet! I do not find anybody to invite." He said, "Carry away the remaining food." Then a batch of three persons stayed in the house chatting. The Prophet left and went towards the dwelling place of Aisha and said, "Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you, O the people of the house!" She replied, "Peace and the mercy of Allah be on you too. How did you find your wife? May Allah bless you. Then he went to the dwelling places of all his other wives and said to them the same as he said to Aisha and they said to him the same as Aisha had said to him. Then the Prophet returned and found a group of three persons still in the house chatting. The Prophet was a very shy person, so he went out (for the second time) and went towards the dwelling place of 'Aisha. I do not remember whether I informed him that the people have gone away. So he returned and as soon as he entered the gate, he drew the curtain between me and him, and then the Verse of Al-Hijab was revealed. Sahih Bukhari 6:60:316 Narrated Anas: When Allah's Apostle married Zainab bint Jahsh, he made the people eat meat and bread to their fill (by giving a Walima banquet). Then he went out to the dwelling places of the mothers of the believers (his wives), as he used to do in the morning of his marriage. He would greet them and invoke good on them, and they (too) would return his greeting and invoke good on him. When he returned to his house, he found two men talking to each other; and when he saw them, he went out of his house again. When those two men saw Allah's Apostle: going out of his house, they quickly got up (and departed). I do not remember whether I informed him of their departure, or he was informed (by somebody else). So he returned, and when he entered the house, he lowered the curtain between me and him. Then the Verse of Al-Hijab was revealed. Sahih Bukhari 6:60:317 Apparently, Umar was not satisfied once he had gotten the Hijab verses he eagerly bothered Muhammad about. He wanted women to be completely unrecognizable. So he started spying on the Muhammad's wives again!!! Narrated Aisha: Sauda (the wife of the Prophet) went out to answer the call of nature after it was made obligatory (for all the Muslims ladies) to observe the veil. She was a fat huge lady, and everybody who knew her before could recognize her. So 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her and said, "O Sauda! By Allah, you cannot hide yourself from us, so think of a way by which you should not be recognized on going out. Sauda returned while Allah's Apostle was in my house taking his supper and a bone covered with meat was in his hand. She entered and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I went out to answer the call of nature and 'Umar said to me so-and-so." Then Allah inspired him (the Prophet) and when the state of inspiration was over and the bone was still in his hand as he had not put in down, he said (to Sauda), "You (women) have been allowed to go out for your needs." Sahih Bukhari 6:60:318 A'isha reported that Sauda (Allah be pleased with her) went out (in the fields) in order to answer the call of nature even after the time when veil had been prescribed for women. She had been a bulky lady, significant in height amongst the women, and she could not conceal herself from him who had known her. 'Umar b. Khattab saw her and said: Sauda, by Allah, you cannot conceal from us. Therefore, be careful when you go out. She ('A'isha) said: She turned back. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was at that time in my house having his evening meal and there was a bone in his hand. She (Sauda) cline and said: Allah's Messenger. I went out and 'Umar said to me so and so. She ('A'isha) reported: There came the revelation to him and then it was over; the bone was then in his hand and he had not thrown it and he said:" Permission has been granted to you that you may go out for your needs." Sahih Muslim 26:5395 Conclusion: The reason that Muslim women wear the hijab today is not a spiritual one, nor is it a matter of piety. Covering the hair/face cannot be considered an act of modesty because Muslim men are not required to cover theirs. The sole reason they do it is because Umar bin Al-Khattab, a companion of Prophet Muhammad, wished that he would reveal verses from Allah requiring women to wear it. When Muhammad did not oblige, Umar did not consider praying to Allah for assistance. Umar knew he had to make it personal for Muhammad himself in order to bring the revelation down. He followed Muhammad's wives out when they went to go to the toilet and made his presence known. When Muhammad heard of this, the revelation that Umar had so wanted was sent down from Allah. Umar knew where these revelations were really coming from, which is why he went to Muhammad and harassed his wives instead of asking Allah. Although the revelational circumstances for the hijab may seem comical, the consequences that we can see to this day, are not. The requirement for the hijab has had the effect of placing full responsibility for Muslim-male self control onto the females - freeing the men of responsibility for their actions if they see an unveiled woman. Lack of self control is not an inherent attribute to men, because men in non-Islamic societies generally do not have such self control issues; when it is rare to see a woman covered so in these societies. The hijab's purpose, as revealed and to this day, is designed to protect Muslim females from the now acceptable behavior of Muslim males; behavior which has been deemed socially acceptable precisely because of the requirement of Muslim females to wear the hijab. |
Education / Re: A Thread For Medical Rehabilitation ( Physiotherapy) Students by PeterChrist: 1:43pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Please is there anybody in the house? I have some questions to ask 1 Like |
Education / Re: Hijab: MURIC Denounces The Action Of The JAMB Invigilators And Supervisors by PeterChrist: 12:10pm On Apr 15, 2019 |
Khaleell001: So? Where did I deny that he committed one of the heinous crimes in history? Moreover, he shares a lot in common with your beloved prophet. Moreover, you forgot that it was the Christians and Jews who stood against Hitler and ensure that Nazism was finally destroyed. Just because Hitler committed one of the most heinous crimes in history does not mean that we should ignore the barbaric acts committed in the name of Islam. You are committing the fallacy of distraction. Khaleell001: So just because there are Muslim internet fraudsters, we can conclude that Islam supports internet fraud? Abi? Just because there are Muslims who drink alcoholics and smoke cigarettes, we can now conclude that Islam endorses such acts? smh for you. Just because there are Christians who engage in slave trade does not mean that Christianity supports slave trade. Why don't you take a look at the early Church and see for yourself if they are slave traders? Muhammad and his cohorts on the other hand engage in slave trade. On what grounds do you want to blast the medieval European slave traders and exonerate Muhammad and his early disciples? You are not even making sense. The fact still remains that it was Christianity that banned slavery from the globe not Islam. Khaleell001: Of course I am aware of people who wore their hijab while writing the utme yesteryears. It is the issue of being dogmatic concerning the issue of hijab that is very annoying. You Muslims cry out as if you were always the victims despite the fact that you are oppressing other religions in the countries where you dominate. It is a sign that your religion is insecure. How many Christians have you seen protesting in Saudi Arabia despite the fact that Muslims oppresses them there? This is because Christianity has nothing to fear. So true is the saying that goes "The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" The hijab you are screaming about is also worn by Christians and other pagans so what is the big deal in hijab? Moreover, UTME is a secular exam and not a religious one so get that straight. Moreover, UTME is based on the western education brought to Nigeria by the Christian missionaries (whom you stubbornly confuse with the European slave traders). Why don't you face the eastern education enforced in the North by Usman Dan Fodio? 1 Like |
Education / Re: Hijab: MURIC Denounces The Action Of The JAMB Invigilators And Supervisors by PeterChrist: 8:44pm On Apr 14, 2019 |
Khaleell001: On a normal day, I would've ignored your false assertions but the fact that you keep repeating such treacherous arguments pushed me beyond the limits. First, you are labouring under the impression that every non-Muslim terrorists must be Christian. You are unaware of the fact that historians Hitler to be an atheist due to the fact that he attacked many doctrines. In fact, he admires Islam because according to him, the religion extols in violence to achieve its aims. For an insight into the religious beliefs of Hitler, why not consult this site: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler and see how ignorant you are? Second, you keep accusing us of engaging in slave trade despite the fact that your beloved prophet had slaves. Go and dust your history books, it took the full moral force of Christianity to ban slavery from the globe (though slavery is still common in Islam-dominated nations). You keep confusing European slave traders with Christian missionaries just because they were both whites. Smh for you. Your argument goes like this 1. The European slave traders were whites 2. The Christian missionaries too where whites Therefore, 3. The European slave traders = Christian missionaries. This is an equivocal fallacy - something you ought to know without being a genius. The Christian missionaries stopped the barbaric killings and enlightened us. They brought western education to Nigeria and this is what UTME is all about yet you want to kill yourself because of it. Reminds me of Muslim refugees who look helpless when arriving in America only to shout "death to America" after the country had welcomed them, fed them and clothed them despite the fact Islamic nations had rejected them for fear of terrorism. And to the mumus out there telling us that JAMB never explicitly prohibited Hijab, I guess am free to write the exam with my helmets. A man could just come into the exam hall with a mask telling the authorities that he is prohibited to pull off the mask according to his religion. I guess you will want the examiners to accept such excuses in the name of religion tolerance. UTME is a secular exam and if you can't go by the stipulated rules, then go back to the maddrassas where you can live 7th century Arabian lifestyle to the fullest. 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: Prophet Opambour: Men With Big Manhoods, Bleached Skin Won’t Make It To Heaven by PeterChrist: 10:22am On Apr 09, 2019 |
Stop misinterpreting the man. The man said that having big manhood does not get you to heaven. He never said that having big manhood will land you in hell. Read what the man said again and stop misquoting him. |
Politics / Re: President Buhari Acknowledges Nigerians’ End SARS Outrage by PeterChrist: 7:40am On Apr 04, 2019 |
Chicagoesontop: He is correct. He said, "I’m aware the Police AUTHORITIES have visited them" His statement is grammatically correct. However, are you that spiteful of your president such that you've gotten a non-rewarding job of scrutinizing every letter he wrote in case he made errors? Straining gnats, swallowing camels |
Crime / Re: The KENPOLY Suicide Graduate Was A Choir Director In Winners Chapel by PeterChrist: 7:49am On Mar 25, 2019 |
Song of Solomon 8:6 Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. |
Crime / Re: The KENPOLY Suicide Graduate Was A Choir Director In Winners Chapel by PeterChrist: 7:46am On Mar 25, 2019 |
Song of Solomon 2:7 Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you by the gazelles and by the does of the field: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires. |
Religion / Re: Uncommon Scriptures That Support Trinity. by PeterChrist: 10:36pm On Mar 13, 2019 |
Lukuluku69: You mean the Hebrew school where you and your clerics gather around and try to doctor the Bible to your taste. Well, I'll pass. I will advise you to stop consoling yourself with the lies about us that had been used to indoctrinate you. Wake up, the world is now a global village where you can contact several qualified experts in the Hebrew languages and check if their conviction aligns with yours. Lukuluku69: Thou art confused. So just because the disciples fondly refer to their leader as "lord", we should now come to the conclusion that the disciples never knew the name of their leader as Jesus? Or just because someone referred to me as Peter, that means Feranmi is no longer my name despite the fact that both are my names? Even kids don't reason the way you think. Second, what about where Jesus recited the shema? The Greek word "kyrios" in the shema recited is a translation of which word if not YHWH? Third, didn't they teach you in your 'Hebrew school' that the tetragrammaton predates the advent of our Lord Jesus Christ by many centuries? Lukuluku69: Lol. How is that suppose to support your case and refute mine? If the same word in Yoruba can have different meanings, then what gave you the licence that the Aramaic 'Eli' in the Bible is synonymous with the Arabic Allah preached by Muhammad in the 6th century? Lukuluku69: Haha. The story of the pot and kettle comes to mind. Lukuluku69: Wow! It seems you take pride in the fact that you are impervious to the truth. Every Biblical scholar I know of will say that "Halleluyah" means "Praise Yah" until you, a self-acclaimed scholar came with another sophisticated definition. So who is using sophistry here? Well, our Lord says: "... If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." John 9:41 And that we should "Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. " Matthew 15:14 |
Religion / Re: Uncommon Scriptures That Support Trinity. by PeterChrist: 2:36pm On Mar 13, 2019 |
My! Lot of bugs here. Let's start squashing 'em Lukuluku69: You are getting confused. YHWH and ELOHIM are two different words with different etymologies though they can both be used to refer to the Biblical deity. Lukuluku69: First, Hebrew just like its sister language Arabic is written without the vowel sounds. Second, how did you come to the conclusion that the Gentile readers of the Old Testament added the vowels? It was the Hebrews themselves who developed the vowels used to pronounce the Hebrew words Third, if the Jews never added the vowels, then how do you expect them to pronounce the Tetragrammaton? The Jews out of reverence for God's name did not address God by the covenantal name (YHWH) so as to avoid speaking that sacred name in vain. In the process, the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton became lost unlike the pronunciation of other Hebrew words which survived. The Hebrew word "Adonai" was substituted for the tetragrammaton in Jewish worship. The vowel sounds from the Adonai later became integrated into the Tetragrammaton and we have "Yahweh" Lukuluku69: You say what? Who taught you all these crap? you need to sue your Hebrew tutor Tracing the etymology of this divine Name is a very daunting task such that scholars could not agree on the etymology. However, the hypothesis you are putting forward is a novel idea, please can you tell us the school of thought that agree with you? Or is it that you are so brilliant that you easily worked out the etymology? Yah is a shortened form for the Tetragrammaton. For instance, YAHSHUA means YAHWEH is my salvation. if Yah means "oh", YAHSHUA will mean "Oh is my salvation" which is very absurd. Eliyahu which means "Yahweh is my God" will now mean "oh is my God". Your hypothesis is as ridiculous as they come. Perhaps you are ignorant of the fact that there are several passages in the Bible where the word YHWH stands on its own without adding Elohim. Lukuluku69: Lol. The Jews do refer to God as YHWH (both the Christian and non-Christian ones). However, a conservative Rabbinic Jew will not add the vowels so as to avoid using the name of God in vain. It is rather the other way round, the Jews are the ones who will laugh at your ignorance. Lukuluku69: Yes, Yahweh had been and is and will always be the proper name for God. You should consider your advice if you are one who learned at the feet of the typical Muslim polemicists you parade as Biblical scholars. If you actually learned Hebrew, then consider my first advice which is: sue your Hebrew tutor and request for refund of the fees you paid. Lukuluku69: Here they come again. In this paragraph alone, you committed many semantic fallacies and they come in flavours. In a country where committing this type of fallacy attracts severe punishment, I'm sure you will have to re-incarnate about three to four times to serve your jail term. I don't know how you guys reason? The fact that two different words from different languages with different etymologies and usage sounds familiar does not mean that they are the same thing!!! For instance, "alah" in Hebrew means oak tree, does that mean that the Islamic deity is an oak tree? Second, Halleluyah means "praise Yah" and "Yah" is shortened form for "Yahweh". So what are you saying gan na? |
Religion / Re: What Do You Understand By Blaspheming Against The Holy Ghost? by PeterChrist: 10:23am On Mar 03, 2019 |
There is this particular saying among the Yourbas: Ti elebi ba ti mo ebi re l’ebi, ki pe l’ori ikunle The guilty who acknowledges his guilt will not stay long on his knees First and foremost, we need to know and appreciate the role and function of the Holy Spirit before we can deal very well with the particular verse in question. Concerning the Holy Spirit, let us hear from the Lord Himself: Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is to your advantage that I go away, for if I don’t go away, the Counselor won’t come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. When he has come, HE WILL CONVICT THE WORLD ABOUT SIN, about righteousness, and about judgment; about sin, because they don’t believe in me; about righteousness, because I am going to my Father, and you won’t see me any more; about judgment, because the prince of this world has been judged. (John 16:7-11) One of the roles of the Holy Spirit is convict people of their sins and iniquities. It is also the Holy Spirit that convict people such that they recognize Jesus for who He truly is. For it is written: Therefore I make known to you that no man speaking by God’s Spirit says, “Jesus is accursed.” No one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” but by the Holy Spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:3) Committing an offense is one thing, refusing to acknowledge the offense is another. When one commits a sin against God, the role of the Holy Spirit is to try and reconcile you back to God. The first He does is to convict you and let you know how you’ve broken God’s heart. The conviction will definitely send you to your knees crying out for forgiveness. Some people harden their heart against the conviction of the Holy Spirit hence they would fail to ask for forgiveness. For our Lord Himself, when blasting the prevailing self-righteousness in his day, said: “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.” (John 12:41) The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is also the same as rebelling against the conviction of the Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit presents evidences to someone in order to bring him/her into the truth yet the person is desperately trying to explain the evidences away, the person is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. So the unforgivable sin is the unwillingness to request for forgiveness. For massive Biblical data, you can consult this article: https://seasonedapologist.com/2018/11/02/the-merciful-son-and-the-embittered-spirit/ 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Buhari Wins Big In Jigawa State by PeterChrist: 9:33pm On Feb 25, 2019 |
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