budaatum:


Depends how you understand it. To some it poses the question, Which of the two is the God, the liar or the one that told the truth? Which should then make one wonder what truth is?

All the same, it is the most important story in the entire book and the key to understanding everything else in it but most simply believe it instead of using their God given minds to ponder what it might mean.

Tell. Which of the two instructing beings is more representative of Jesus Christ.

Obviously the one who tells them the truth will set them free. My dear buda but I have not your wisdom and still deploy crude tools.

LordReed:


Obviously the one who tells them the truth will set them free. My dear buda but I have not your wisdom and still deploy crude tools.

What wisdom And why are your tools crude

Do you not know that the lamp of our body is our eyes, and that we must ensure they work or our whole being will be in the dark? If we do not know this about our eyes my Lord, then we are in no position to know to do the work to hone the use of the rest of our senses, and must at least know that unused talents are lost!

This is what we learn from the Use the Senses Scientist Eve who refused to believe the crap Adam tried to brainwash her mind with and so tested for herself if she would surely die on the day that she ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil only to find that it was good for gaining wisdom and for opening eyes so she can invent clothes and free herself and her Adam from slavery such that they became self employed, and to boot she did not surely die but went on to live for 900 or so years, which I'm sure you'd agree is pretty close to eternity at least for a human being, during which she populated the earth and her offspring are now on the way to Mars.

I tell you my Lord that if I were a God worshipper I'd bow down and worship the Scientist Use the Senses Eve, but being a learner, I guess I learn from her instead as you also must, for we must not be claimimg "no wisdom crude tools" in like 2 years time, or five or ten without being ashamed of ourselves for being lazy unevolved fuqs, especially considering those who died so we may learn to use our eyes to see.

Pool of Siloam time, says buda!

TheSourcerer:
Let's say if we eventually get convinced of the non existence of satan or and God , what then will be your purpose in life ? How would it change you?

I've ran the mental experiment.

Nothing changes really.

Life goes on, man must still survive, find ways to be good, take care of family etc.

It's like of what consequence is it if I choose to believe that unicorns exist? Me believing or being convinced of there existence, doesn't change how I should act in the world or treat people, at least based on my personal philosophy.

That's why I've humbled my self for this religion matter, though I continue to practice.

LordReed:


If your god exists then he is the most immoral being in existence because he doesn't even follow his own rules.

Depends. God is not a man.

budaatum:


What wisdom And why are your tools crude

Do you not know that the lamp of our body is our eyes, and that we must ensure they work or our whole being will be in the dark? If we do not know this about our eyes my Lord, then we are in no position to know to do the work to hone the use of the rest of our senses, and must at least know that unused talents are lost!

This is what we learn from the Use the Senses Scientist Eve who refused to believe the crap Adam tried to brainwash her mind with and so tested for herself if she would surely die on the day that she ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil only to find that it was good for gaining wisdom and for opening eyes so she can invent clothes and free herself and her Adam from slavery such that they became self employed, and to boot she did not surely die but went on to live for 900 or so years, which I'm sure you'd agree is pretty close to eternity at least for a human being, during which she populated the earth and her offspring are now on the way to Mars.

I tell you my Lord that if I were a God worshipper I'd bow down and worship the Scientist Use the Senses Eve, but being a learner, I guess I learn from her instead as you also must, for we must not be claimimg "no wisdom crude tools" in like 2 years time, or five or ten without being ashamed of ourselves for being lazy unevolved fuqs, especially considering those who died so we may learn to use our eyes to see.

Pool of Siloam time, says buda!

Hopefully in 2 years I will not be claiming no wisdom crude tools. LoL

Image123:


Depends. God is not a man.

So that excuses him from being moral? Despite claiming to be perfect? Perfect by what standard then because he is not perfect by his own standard.

I am not religious

LordReed:


Hopefully in 2 years I will not be claiming no wisdom crude tools. LoL

If it were up to me My Lord, you'd have a month. Three tops!

No one has your potential here, but you must first stop hiding!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOXc7b2YJ4

TheSourcerer:
Let's say if we eventually get convinced of the non existence of satan or and God , what then will be your purpose in life ? How would it change you?

So the party has moved here!

Then there would be no difference between a man and a phone or car, they can simply sit down in one spot doing nothing and achieving nothing celebrating nothing just gathering dust and dirt!

budaatum:
I am convinced that Gods and Satans and heaven and hell and anything after death are figments of the imagination cooked up in the minds of some.. And even Jesus Christ might even be a fable created by Romans (though no evidence supports this position).

Is the above (God/Satan are like movies) not the opposite of the below (Lord Christ Who is God)?

budaatum:

Still, the Word is Lord, and whosoever understands what Christ taught will live fruitfully on this earth at least..

Anyway, no one lives on rolling stones!

Dtruthspeaker:


Is the above (God/Satan are like movies) not the opposite of the below (Lord Christ Who is God)?

You are asking buda to provide you with an image of God.

To wit:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13207690_screenshot20210301165803_jpeg4f983478b1692807aabf8e6ee61ccd41

Dtruthspeaker shalt not tempt buda to sin!

budaatum:


If it were up to me My Lord, you'd have a month. Three tops!

No one has your potential here, but you must first stop hiding!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOXc7b2YJ4

I have a lot of deprogramming to do my dear buda. Hopefully it won't take 2 years but there are depth I am still plumbing to know how far reaching the former programming goes

budaatum:


You are asking buda to provide you with an image of God.

Nope, I am saying you are doing a circus performance and magic tricks being in 2 places at the same time defying The Laws of Nature!

Plus the Extra Magic Trick, you performed by taking ONLY ONE of my query, whereas, they were 2! clap, clap, clap!

LordReed:


I have a lot of deprogramming to do my dear buda. Hopefully it won't take 2 years but there are depth I am still plumbing to know how far reaching the former programming goes

It is recognition of your former programming that makes you my Lord. Many have not yet come to that realisation even despite claiming to being atheists. And to be honest, I think I underestimate how well a job the programmers did, because I am obviously finding it very difficult to convince people that they will not surely die on the day that they eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but their eyes will open and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. I mean, who wants to listen to the words of serpents even if what they say is the truth. And see me dragging you back into those depths so you might see. Lol.

You keep [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_Eightfold_Path_consists_of%2Cmeditative_absorption_or_union%27%29.?wprov=sfla1]reaching into those depths[/url] my Lord, and the Holiest of Spirits will guide you to understand how and why Jesus is indeed one of the Lords.

Dtruthspeaker:


Nope, I am saying you are doing a circus performance and magic tricks being in 2 places at the same time defying The Laws of Nature!

Plus the Extra Magic Trick, you performed by taking ONLY ONE of my query, whereas, they were 2! clap, clap, clap!

Please know that buda is never in one place alone but in as many places as buda can possibly be at any point in time.

A query has a question mark, like one of these ?.
Was there more than one in your post, Dt, and I need my eyes checked?

budaatum:


It is recognition of your former programming that makes you my Lord. Many have not yet come to that realisation even despite claiming to being atheists. And to be honest, I think I underestimate how well a job the programmers did, because I am obviously finding it very difficult to convince people that they will not surely die on the day that they eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but their eyes will open and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. I mean, who wants to listen to the words of serpents even if what they say is the truth. And see me dragging you back into those depths so you might see. Lol.

You keep [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_Eightfold_Path_consists_of%2Cmeditative_absorption_or_union%27%29.?wprov=sfla1]reaching into those depths[/url] my Lord, and the Holiest of Spirits will guide you to understand how and why Jesus is indeed one of the Lords.

Amen my dear buda. I won't lie, it's a painful process unlearning all that used to define me but as you have said the Holiest of Spirits shall guide me.

LordReed:


If your god exists then he is the most immoral being in existence because he doesn't even follow his own rules.

or has no power at all.

The5DME:
but it is.

it is ? Hmm

budaatum:


That's lazy thinking TheSourcerer. You can at least have checked a dictionary or googled it to come up with something better than that if you had not bothered to read a whole book on religion to get what it means that is.

Would you care to have another go, trying harder this time?

What is religion?

call me main streamed , close minded , but religion again is a con word , in fact a weapon of mass mental destruction and manipulation throughout history , no matter what a dictionary says dear budda

LordReed:


Amen my dear buda. I won't lie, it's a painful process unlearning all that used to define me but as you have said the Holiest of Spirits shall guide me.

You will find this difficult to believe, but the cure is actually in the book written by the healer called the Gospel According to Luke.

I plan to go over it again some day when I find two or three to gather with me, as it is a process that aids the evolution of the mind.

budaatum:


More like an unbeliever. But I guess both words mean the same to many.

Try, "Christian Atheist". Tell me your understanding.

budda unless you wish to full the masses , there's nothing like a Christian Atheist z an Agnostic Christain Maybe , but not an Atheist. Atheists are posited and unshifting .

Do you watch movies ?
Do you relate with people ?
I don't
But do you ? It may make a difference in this conversation

TheSourcerer:
call me main streamed , close minded , but religion again is a con word , in fact a weapon of mass mental destruction and manipulation throughout history , no matter what a dictionary says dear budda

If that is your religious belief, who am I to argue with you?

I can just hope you see how you've described the effect that religion has on you, and note how it differs to the effect that religion has on say, buda.

I mean, who really needs a dictionary if we can observe ourselves conning ourselves?

budaatum:


If that is your religious belief, who am I to argue with you?

I can just hope you see how you've described the effect that religion has on you, and note how it differs to the effect that religion has on say, buda.

I mean, who really needs a dictionary if we can observe ourselves conning ourselves?

budaa hence the question I asked about self seclusion /apathy

Another question budaa

Are humans nessesary ? Much less a God/gods ?

TheSourcerer:
budda unless you wish to full the masses , there's nothing like a Christian Atheist z an Agnostic Christain Maybe , but not an Atheist. Atheists are posited and unshifting .

When Martinez39 and I did this sort of question we ended up with beans, lol. You might want to see how we cooked it.

First, who told you atheists are this or that? Is there some church where atheist go to get there unshifting from that I haven't heard about, or is it not true that atheists come in all forms?

I'm sure you've heard of atheists who do not believe in the existence of Gods for instance, but would you say you are familiar at all with atheists who know for absolute certainty that Gods do not exist except as figments of the imaginations of those who imagine them?

Beans, you see. Lots of different ways of cooking beans and that's even before you start considering the different types of beans that exist and find that not all beans are the same.

Second. How dare you pressume the right to be telling buda what buda can or can not be? Are you the God of buda that you would deign to create buda in the image that pleases TheSourcerer? What kind of atheist does that, as in, make out they are the God and creator of buda?

TheSourcerer:
Do you watch movies ?
Do you relate with people ?
I don't
But do you ? It may make a difference in this conversation

As for this bit. I do watch movies and just recently watched the Matrix trilogy, and I think I relate with TheSourcerer who is a people whom I think relates with me since he opens these threads and takes the added effort to specifically mention buda, so I don't understand the difference apart from you do relate but perhaps are trying to deceive yourself that you don't

Please know that if the masses are full by buda, yippee! But buda is far too arrogantly humble to assume to be able to fool as many as the masses with the little resources that buda has. Just you open your eyes so you see what is before you will do, thank you very much, TheSource.

TheSourcerer:
budaa hence the question I asked about self seclusion /apathy

Another question budaa

Are humans nessesary ? Much less a God/gods ?

What sense are you trying to make by connecting "necessary" and "humans"?

Humans necessary to or for what?

And to what or to whom are you asking what or if Gods are necessary to?

I do not think I get your "the question I asked about self seclusion /apathy". We are on lockdown where I am, and my own health means extra seclusion, but I do more than compensate by engaging on here, and I do not do apathy at all being ever hopeful buda.

budaatum:


You will find this difficult to believe, but the cure is actually in the book written by the healer called the Gospel According to Luke.

I plan to go over it again some day when I find two or three to gather with me, as it is a process that aids the evolution of the mind.

Do it on Zoom and I'll join.

budaatum:


What sense are you trying to make by connecting "necessary" and "humans"?

Humans necessary to or for what?

And to what or to whom are you asking what or if Gods are necessary to?

I do not think I get your "the question I asked about self seclusion /apathy". We are on lockdown where I am, and my own health means extra seclusion, but I do more than compensate by engaging on here, and I do not do apathy at all being ever hopeful buda.

that explains the difference , ever hopeful ? Why ? We would end up in space 3 million years from now or less , I could be in Venus and you Galaxies away , so the essence of hope I really don't understand or comprehend that emotion or instinct .hope you are having a good day though?

How often do you meditate ? Budda

budaatum:


When Martinez39 and I did this sort of question we ended up with beans, lol. You might want to see how we cooked it.

First, who told you atheists are this or that? Is there some church where atheist go to get there unshifting from that I haven't heard about, or is it not true that atheists come in all forms?

I'm sure you've heard of atheists who do not believe in the existence of Gods for instance, but would you say you are familiar at all with atheists who know for absolute certainty that Gods do not exist except as figments of the imaginations of those who imagine them?

Beans, you see. Lots of different ways of cooking beans and that's even before you start considering the different types of beans that exist and find that not all beans are the same.

Second. How dare you pressume the right to be telling buda what buda can or can not be? Are you the God of buda that you would deign to create buda in the image that pleases TheSourcerer? What kind of atheist does that, as in, make out they are the God and creator of buda?

As for this bit. I do watch movies and just recently watched the Matrix trilogy, and I think I relate with TheSourcerer who is a people whom I think relates with me since he opens these threads and takes the added effort to specifically mention buda, so I don't understand the difference apart from you do relate but perhaps are trying to deceive yourself that you don't

Please know that if the masses are full by buda, yippee! But buda is far too arrogantly humble to assume to be able to fool as many as the masses with the little resources that buda has. Just you open your eyes so you see what is before you will do, thank you very much, TheSource.

like Socrates will do or act as a fool to understand the fools view , and so ask this fool a foolish question which of course cannot be answered , I understand you to the extent I understand buda , in fact I believe buda shouldn't be in this time or era but then again buda is buda and has always been .





And by humanity . I really try to get a grip of our essence aside , wars , genocide , love , courage, cowardice. It ends and no one would know humanity exitsts





Delving a bit into the bible , I found out the isrealites circled a place no bigger than OYO state for 40 years , even if they made a chain I believe the promise land would be reached , funny enough amidst millions of Jews who roamed the deserts you would expect to see skeletal remains of pastoral people , but none were found . no bones fossils relating to this age/time .

TheSourcerer:
that explains the difference , ever hopeful ? Why ? We would end up in space 3 million years from now or less , I could be in Venus and you Galaxies away , so the essence of hope I really don't understand or comprehend that emotion or instinct .hope you are having a good day though?

"Space 3 million years from now or less be in Venus and you Galaxies"? What the fuq! Are you trying to depress yourself or something?

buda woke up at exactly 6:39am. The time is now 16:18GMT and buda has only had one cup of coffee all day, but buda is having a very good day thank you very much, and buda is hopeful that buda will not starve to death today nor tomorrow nor the day after, and that is hope enough for buda.

You see, I can understand how you don't understand or comprehend the essence of hope, but what sadly amuses me is how you don't even attempt to understand the essence of hope and just discard it yet hope I am having a good day.

Are you having a good day, TheSourcerer? I very much hope you are.

budaatum:


Please know that buda is never in one place alone but in as many places as buda can possibly be at any point in time.

A query has a question mark, like one of these ?.
Was there more than one in your post, Dt, and I need my eyes checked?

buda where do you stand ? You know where I stand , you want me to question where I stand ? Respectful just like Socrates , but where do you stand? Its a direct question .

TheSourcerer:
How often do you meditate ? Budda

Before I write a post on Nairaland I have to meditate on it to ensure my words express accurately the contents of my mind.

Every single moment of my life apart from when I sleep I meditate to ensure I'm not deluding myself.

Every single moment that I sleep and dream a dream I meditate because I'm constantly trying to bring the billions of Naira in my dreams into my non-dream life!

Just the other day I smoked a cigarette in my dreams and was kicking myself for being weak.

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