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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:23am On Apr 05, 2021
The vision 2050 of Ghana - look at THE green city in the sun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEouQs1vN8
Just30:
Sloganeering is really not a good thing

Because it obscure mediocrity grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:27am On Apr 05, 2021
Just30:
Sloganeering is really not a good thing

Because it obscure mediocrity grin
Indeed , what about "the pride of Africa" ? grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:30am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
But we already devolved gov with 47 counties with governors, their own parliament and name it. We are deepening and strengthening. Nigeria twice the size of kenya with 4 times population has 36 states.

Counties, municipalities, states, provinces etc

May mean the same thing depending where you are in the world or type of government, economic system you use

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:31am On Apr 05, 2021
The Green Nigerian Airways was last seen on air 30yrs ago smiley

Nairobi remember is world 11st Most Ecofriendly City in the world. Show me any Nigeria city this green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEouQs1vN8

68816419:

Indeed , what about "the pride of Africa" ? grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:32am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
The Green Nigerian Airways was last seen on air 30yrs ago smiley

Nairobi remember is world 11st Most Ecofriendly City in the world. Show me any Nigeria city this green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEouQs1vN8

Wake up mazze angry grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:35am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
The Green Nigerian Airways was last seen on air 30yrs ago smiley

Nairobi remember is world 11st Most Ecofriendly City in the world. Show me any Nigeria city this green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEouQs1vN8

Our aviation industry is dominated by private players, �% owned by Nigerians and they are all making profits...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:37am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
The vision 2050 of Ghana - look at THE green city in the sun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEouQs1vN8
What ever makes you sleep at night

Sloganeering aint good

Kenya will get there some day in 2100

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:38am On Apr 05, 2021
68816419:

Indeed , what about "the pride of Africa" ? grin grin grin grin
grin grin grin grin

Only they can explain what that means, cause it doesnt show in their daily life

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:40am On Apr 05, 2021
The kenyan kid doesnt know

Help educate him
AfriqueDuZuid:


Counties, municipalities, states, provinces etc

May mean the same thing depending where you are in the world or type of government, economic system you use

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:40am On Apr 05, 2021
Aviation and Nigeria...you mean flying duct-taped coffins?
68816419:

Our aviation industry is dominated by private players, �% owned by Nigerians and they are all making profits...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:40am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
But we already devolved gov with 47 counties with governors, their own parliament and name it. We are deepening and strengthening. Nigeria twice the size of kenya with 4 times population has 36 states.
Can these counties sustain their selves without Nairobi supports, and how comes over 90% of these counties can't even build basic infrastructures (roads,water,School...) On their own?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:44am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Aviation and Nigeria...you mean flying duct-taped coffins?
Can you point out the differences btw KQ and Airpeace or why do you think KQ is better than Airpeace?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:48am On Apr 05, 2021
They are not federal like Nigeria - meaning they are not allowed to levy taxes. They don't have Internal IRS. But definitely kenya road expansion to 250,000kms has happened thanks to devolution.
68816419:

Can these counties sustain their selves without Nairobi supports, and how comes over 90% of these counties can't even build basic infrastructures (roads,water,School...) On their own?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:49am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
They are not federal like Nigeria - meaning they are not allowed to levy taxes. They don't have Internal IRS. But definitely kenya road expansion to 250,000kms has happened thanks to devolution.
ur counties are like our local govt...... Not yet at states level.

We have 774 local govts.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:51am On Apr 05, 2021
KQ is SSA 2nd biggest Airline (I think SSA is now eating dust) after Ethiopea Airline. Air Peace smiley what hell is that; nobody has heard of it.
68816419:

Can you point out the differences btw KQ and Airpeace or why do you think KQ is better than Airpeace?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:52am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
They are not federal like Nigeria - meaning they are not allowed to levy taxes. They don't have Internal IRS. But definitely kenya road expansion to 250,000kms has happened thanks to devolution.
How many % of these roads are paved?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:52am On Apr 05, 2021
Most of our counties have 1m people plus; each county has parliament; ministers and governors; each county has municipal areas - LCAs.
theenchanter:
ur counties are like our local govt...... Not yet at states level.

We have 774 local govts.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 11:52am On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
KQ is SSA 2nd biggest Airline (I think SSA is now eating dust) after Ethiopea Airline. Air Peace smiley what hell is that; nobody has heard of it.
Biggest in what sense?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:55am On Apr 05, 2021
In all senses. KQ generated 1B plus in revenues. Kq has subsidiaries including Jambojet, cargo handling and freigh companies. You cannot compare it with nonsense called Air Peace.
68816419:

Biggest in what sense?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 11:57am On Apr 05, 2021
Just30:
The kenyan kid doesnt know

Help educate him

Just like South Africa and China uses provinces

Nigeria, US uses States, they using federal system

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:00pm On Apr 05, 2021
Of course. But there is difference btw federal and devolution and decentralized gov. Nigeria like Ethiopia and US are federal. South Africa I think is more like Kenya or German - more like devolved gov. Prov gov are elected but they are NOT FEDERAL. Tanzania has unitary system with provinces headed by national gov appointed official - that more like decentralized gov.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Counties, municipalities, states, provinces etc

May mean the same thing depending where you are in the world or type of government, economic system you use

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:02pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Most of our counties have 1m people plus; each county has parliament; ministers and governors; each county has municipal areas - LCAs.

Its the same everywhere

Just like a local municipality has subdivision of all departments, parliament is same as municipal chamber/council

Its same thing using different terms
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:02pm On Apr 05, 2021
Understand the difference btw Federal and Devolved Gov. South Africa prov gov are NOT federal states.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Just like South Africa and China uses provinces

Nigeria, US uses States, they using federal system
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:03pm On Apr 05, 2021
Ignorance. It not the same everywhere. Tanzania and I bet Ghana do not have elected provincial or state or county gov. The president appoints provincial heads. Some may have mayor elected with councillors.

There is lot of difference btw federalism, devolution, and decentralization.

Federal units are states - they have president or govenor - their own police force - and their own parliament - and even their own judiciary. They can even secede and form independent country.
Devolved units - they have own elected gov, parliament and but generally do not have police force or judiciary.
Decentralized units - they national gov just send a head of unit and that is pretty much it.

AfriqueDuZuid:


Its the same everywhere

Just like a local municipality has subdivision of all departments, parliament is same as municipal chamber/council

Its same thing using different terms

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:


Just like South Africa and China uses provinces

Nigeria, US uses States, they using federal system
He thinks every country run the same systems as his.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:06pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
In all senses. KQ generated 1B plus in revenues. Kq has subsidiaries including Jambojet, cargo handling and freigh companies. You cannot compare it with nonsense called Air Peace.
KQ will never make profits, while Airpeace keeps making profits (even those it ain't much).
What is the "actual" total fleets of KQ compare that with Airpeace fleets and the ordered fleets as well?.
What is the % of Africans ownership of KQ compare that with Airpeace,
What does the future holds for KQ, also compare that with Airpeace.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:07pm On Apr 05, 2021
68816419:

How many % of these roads are paved?
less than 10%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:09pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Ignorance. It not the same everywhere. Tanzania and I bet Ghana do not have elected provincial or state or county gov. The president appoints provincial heads. Some may have mayor elected with councillors.

There is lot of difference btw federalism, devolution, and decentralization.

Bottom line many countries have had their road network using any 3 of those,

What works in other countries may not work work in other.

For instance Rwanda may follow Singapore way of things, but it won't come out as singapore

Eg Singapore is reliant on shipping industry of which the world depend on, the world does not rely on Rwanda for anything

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:09pm On Apr 05, 2021
Air peace is small regional airline that will NEVER be compared to KQ. KQ is modern airline with long history. Just like many airline is goes through turbulence but definitely has made profit in it's almost 45yrs of existence.

Now we want to compare Air Peace formed 5yrs ago with KQ smiley

68816419:

KQ will never make profits, while Airpeace keeps making profits (even those it ain't much).
What is the "actual" total fleets of KQ compare that with Airpeace fleets and the ordered fleets as well?.
What is the % of Africans ownership of KQ compare that with Airpeace,
What does the future holds for KQ, also compare that with Airpeace.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Understand the difference btw Federal and Devolved Gov. South Africa prov gov are NOT federal states.

They are equivalent
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2021
Rwanda is small country. Please try to use relevant examples. Singapore is a city-state.

Large countries like Tanzania need some form of federalism or devolution otherwise expecting Magufuli to cover a country the size of South Africa supervizing everything is crazy.

Tanzania badly need devolution. And so does DRC congo.

Otherwise right now they are just too big to be governed by all knowing central gov. Their little road network of 80K can be explained by lack of devolution or federalism...if each province had more autonomy..they would identify rural access roads as priority and fix it.But now their Dar gov has identified railway and power project....leaving the rest of the country a wilderness.

AfriqueDuZuid:


Bottom line many countries have had their road network using any 3 of those,

What works in other countries may not work work in other.

For instance Rwanda may follow Singapore way of things, but it won't come out as singapore

Eg Singapore is reliant on shipping industry of which the world depend on, the world does not rely on Rwanda for anything

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:14pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Air peace is small regional airline that will NEVER be compared to KQ. KQ is modern airline with long history. Just like many airline is goes through turbulence but definitely has made profit in it's almost 45yrs of existence.

Now we want to compare Air Peace formed 5yrs ago with KQ smiley

To hell with the 45yrs of history with no profits after all these while,

Now answer this.

What is the "actual" total fleets of KQ compare that with Airpeace fleets and the ordered fleets as well?.
What is the % of Africans ownership of KQ compare that with Airpeace,
What does the future holds for KQ, also compare that with Airpeace.?

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