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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 12:15pm On Apr 05, 2021
68816419:

Can you point out the differences btw KQ and Airpeace or why do you think KQ is better than Airpeace?

Here is the difference between KQ and Airpeace.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:15pm On Apr 05, 2021
Yes I guess they are just filler English words that mean the same thing. What a slowpoke.
AfriqueDuZuid:


They are equivalent
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:19pm On Apr 05, 2021
Only possible in Nigeria
Wuoche:


Here is the difference between KQ and Airpeace.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:20pm On Apr 05, 2021
I will never dignify Air Peace by making comparison with KQ - change your weed supplier. KQ flies to 53 destination worldwide. Air peace should compete with KQ subsidiaries like Jambojet or Flamingo
68816419:

To hell with the 45yrs of history with no profits after all these while,

Now answer this.

What is the "actual" total fleets of KQ compare that with Airpeace fleets and the ordered fleets as well?.
What is the % of Africans ownership of KQ compare that with Airpeace,
What does the future holds for KQ, also compare that with Airpeace.?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:27pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Rwanda is small country. Please try to use relevant examples. Singapore is a city-state.

Large countries like Tanzania need some form of federalism or devolution otherwise expecting Magufuli to cover a country the size of South Africa supervizing everything is crazy.

Tanzania badly need devolution. And so does DRC congo.

Otherwise right now they are just too big to be governed by all knowing central gov. Their little road network of 80K can be explained by lack of devolution or federalism...if each province had more autonomy..they would identify rural access roads as priority and fix it.But now their Dar gov has identified railway and power project....leaving the rest of the country a wilderness.


I won't even pretend know how things are run in DRCor Tanzania

Isnt China running a central government typa way? TANZANIA don't have provinces?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:30pm On Apr 05, 2021
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Wow! It will also connect to Obudu where the cattle ranch is. shocked

Thanks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:34pm On Apr 05, 2021
Wuoche:


Here is the difference between KQ and Airpeace.



Certainly, the man in bubu was late to the party.

Besides, this is not Airpeace.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:35pm On Apr 05, 2021
Wuoche:


Here is the difference between KQ and Airpeace.

That ain't Airpeace...the company currently has 26 fleets In Service and Ordered 25 Aircraft

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:44pm On Apr 05, 2021
I think chinese province have more autonomy than TZ's districts and provinces. They badly need devolved gov elected by the people.
AfriqueDuZuid:


I won't even pretend know how things are run in DRCor Tanzania

Isnt China running a central government typa way? TANZANIA don't have provinces?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:45pm On Apr 05, 2021
Build an expensive railway to connect a cattle ranch; the zoo! Nigeria should stop building passenger railways and focus on minning industry; Nigeria has DRC kind of minerals; they need railway line to open it up.

Passenger rail only makes sense in cities.

forgiveness:


Wow! It will also connect to Obudu where the cattle ranch is. shocked

Thanks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:48pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
I think chinese province have more autonomy than TZ's districts and provinces. They badly need devolved gov elected by the people.

Because it worked for Kenya?

Is economic system, economic structure and general make up of Tanzania and Kenya the same?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:49pm On Apr 05, 2021
Because it works everywhere; it empower people to make decision on their local needs; and it working in South Africa; because the Boer in Capetown can better run their town - than ANC in Joburg- if they want.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Because it worked for Kenya?

Is economic system, economic structure and general make up of Tanzania and Kenya the same?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:51pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Build an expensive railway to connect a cattle ranch; the zoo! Nigeria should stop building passenger railways and focus on minning industry; Nigeria has DRC kind of minerals; they need railway line to open it up.

Passenger rail only makes sense in cities.


Nigeria needs passenger rail nigeria has 200m people their cities are congested

Their roads are not wide enough, less vehicles on the road will do good for the country roads

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:54pm On Apr 05, 2021
Within their cities yes; Lagos could do with proper light rail; But building 3,000kms passenger trail is never going to be economical; Railways ARE GOOD FOR BULK TRANSPORT. Your country south africa doesn't waste money in passenger rail - but in rail lines to transport iron ore, coal and such.

Proper expressways will solve passenger transports btw cities of Nigeria....Not passenger railway. That is misplaced priority - like building railway along the coastline smiley smiley who does that.

But Nigeria is a well known zoo!

AfriqueDuZuid:


Nigeria needs passenger rail nigeria has 200m people their cities are congested

Their roads are not wide enough, less vehicles on the road will do good for the country roads



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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:57pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Because it works everywhere; it empower people to make decision on their local needs; and it working in South Africa; because the Boer in Capetown can better run their town - than ANC in Joburg- if they want.

Only 15% of Capetown is white, 42% Colored and 25 black
, So decision in because of what majority wants not minority

TANZANIA has been growing fine with their system, why change if it grows their country... A sign that it works for them

It change worked for Kenya kudos to them
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:58pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Build an expensive railway to connect a cattle ranch; the zoo! Nigeria should stop building passenger railways and focus on minning industry; Nigeria has DRC kind of minerals; they need railway line to open it up.

Passenger rail only makes sense in cities.


How do you know the railway line won't pass through those routes?

Besides, it's not going to be built to connect to Obudu cattle ranch (better than any tourist sites in Kenya combined) only but to connect from Lagos seaport to Calabar seaport after passing through some of the most important states and richest cities in Nigeria. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:59pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Within their cities yes; Lagos could do with proper light rail; But building 3,000kms passenger trail is never going to be economical; Railways ARE GOOD FOR BULK TRANSPORT. Your country south africa doesn't waste money in passenger rail - but in rail lines to transport iron ore, coal and such.

Proper expressways will solve passenger transports btw cities of Nigeria....Not passenger railway. That is misplaced priority - like building railway along the coastline smiley smiley who does that.

But Nigeria is a well known zoo!


Nigeria needs both cargo and passenger

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:00pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Within their cities yes; Lagos could do with proper light rail; But building 3,000kms passenger trail is never going to be economical; Railways ARE GOOD FOR BULK TRANSPORT. Your country south africa doesn't waste money in passenger rail - but in rail lines to transport iron ore, coal and such.

Proper expressways will solve passenger transports btw cities of Nigeria....Not passenger railway. That is misplaced priority - like building railway along the coastline smiley smiley who does that.

But Nigeria is a well known zoo!


South Africa does not necessarily need passenger rail as its has top 10 biggest road network, wide roads, super highways etc
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:04pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
Within their cities yes; Lagos could do with proper light rail; But building 3,000kms passenger trail is never going to be economical; Railways ARE GOOD FOR BULK TRANSPORT. Your country south africa doesn't waste money in passenger rail - but in rail lines to transport iron ore, coal and such.

Proper expressways will solve passenger transports btw cities of Nigeria....Not passenger railway. That is misplaced priority - like building railway along the coastline smiley smiley who does that.

But Nigeria is a well known zoo!


Besides South Africa has passenger rail from Johannesburg to Capetown (with station in other stations in between

Pretoria via Johannesburg to Durban (with stations in between other cities)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:23pm On Apr 05, 2021
At least your provincial gov are not monolithic - when ANC run down everything - National Party can salvage some.
What is growing fine in TZ - when road network is 80,000 - 10 times less than South Africa. Tanzania badly need devolved or federal gov.
AfriqueDuZuid:


Only 15% of Capetown is white, 42% Colored and 25 black
, So decision in because of what majority wants not minority

TANZANIA has been growing fine with their system, why change if it grows their country... A sign that it works for them

It change worked for Kenya kudos to them

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:26pm On Apr 05, 2021
What is logic for building coastal rail - why not build ports instead - and have the railway on the hinterland. Obudu cattle ranch kind of thinking.
forgiveness:


How do you know the railway line won't pass through those routes?

Besides, it's not going to be built to connect to Obudu cattle ranch (better than any tourist sites in Kenya combined) only but to connect from Lagos seaport to Calabar seaport after passing through some of the most important states and richest cities in Nigeria. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:27pm On Apr 05, 2021
That is not proper rail - more like a tourist thing.

It runs once a week in each direction between Cape Town and Johannesburg (departing Cape Town on Tuesdays and Johannesburg on Thursdays), and takes about 26 hours.

AfriqueDuZuid:


Besides South Africa has passenger rail from Johannesburg to Capetown (with station in other stations in between

Pretoria via Johannesburg to Durban (with stations in between other cities)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:29pm On Apr 05, 2021
Wuoche:


Here is the difference between KQ and Airpeace.


Lol
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:51pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
That is not proper rail - more like a tourist thing.

It runs once a week in each direction between Cape Town and Johannesburg (departing Cape Town on Tuesdays and Johannesburg on Thursdays), and takes about 26 hours.


Anyway a flight is cheaper and faster

There's shosholoza rail
Blue train
Rovos

Different, private and public owned
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:52pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
That is not proper rail - more like a tourist thing.

It runs once a week in each direction between Cape Town and Johannesburg (departing Cape Town on Tuesdays and Johannesburg on Thursdays), and takes about 26 hours.


Its is proper rail
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:53pm On Apr 05, 2021
Just30:
What ever makes you sleep at night

Sloganeering aint good

Kenya will get there some day in 2100

Kenya of today is Ghana in the future. cool cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:57pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
At least your provincial gov are not monolithic - when ANC run down everything - National Party can salvage some.
What is growing fine in TZ - when road network is 80,000 - 10 times less than South Africa. Tanzania badly need devolved or federal gov.

Don't compare SA with Tanzania two different countries, different visionsetc

Don't be fooled by what you see on media, many are shocked and surprised when them visit SA.

South African media will confuse you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:59pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
What is logic for building coastal rail - why not build ports instead - and have the railway on the hinterland. Obudu cattle ranch kind of thinking.

We are building ports already Mr man. The coastal rail is connected to major cities. Simple and short.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfriqueDuZuid: 2:00pm On Apr 05, 2021
rvp2018:
At least your provincial gov are not monolithic - when ANC run down everything - National Party can salvage some.
What is growing fine in TZ - when road network is 80,000 - 10 times less than South Africa. Tanzania badly need devolved or federal gov.

Country economy is growing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 2:04pm On Apr 05, 2021
Just30:
What ever makes you sleep at night

Sloganeering aint good

Kenya will get there some day in 2100

Kenya of 1970's is the future of Ghana.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:45pm On Apr 05, 2021
Wuoche:


Kenya of 1970's is the future of Ghana.

Kenya of today is Ghana of 1910

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 2:46pm On Apr 05, 2021
gallivant:


Kenya of today is Ghana in the future. cool cool
Kenya need 50 more years to get to Ghana 1950s

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