blasterman:


ok 1st wrong assumption

2nd...the market rate determines the price. im talking of 1 bedroom going rate as of today.

Maybe 10-15 years ago it was at minmium 400$ but right now this is the ongoing rate. 900-1000$ per month

Typical apartment complex.


Some ppl now will rather live in Ghana than nigeria so one of the major problem of nigeria is basic amenties in the west as a black man u are like an aboki /mallam like. 2nd grade person.

The system is too rigid especially america - small thing jail. For example if police stop u and breathalyze u and u get DWI. U cannot get some good paying jobs withthat DWI on ur record

Why be 2nd grade when u can be 1st grade.

if all the basic amenties are functioning in nigeria, u will see how many abroad ppl will be trooping back enmasse

You watch toomuch TV thats your problem
you are a minimum wage aerner and you want to live in a whole apartment? why not house share? so you can pay for a room all-inclusive? who you wan to impress?
U drink and drive that your problem at least you get arrested in Nigeria you crash into people's house and kill a family and a whole generation spot the difference?
Even though you get a DWI in your record not everyone go to look for employment, loads of people are self-employed..DO your research very well you will be suprised howmany ex prisoners are working with skills acquired from corectional facilities.

planetx:
You don't need to travel to the US to enjoy 24 hrs electricity.

I tire oh when generator dey there lol

Jeromejnr:


Well, that's your own negative point of view.

Not everyone exploits people and not everyone wants to leave the country. And not everyone sees it as a hell hole.

Many people do not even want to raise their children in the U.S because of how insane the place has become.

Not everyone wants to be a slave and second hand citizen in another man's country because they want to decive themselves with so called making it.

If you think everyone exploits, you should change your circle.

U.S is vacation for me (even though I prefer other countrie)...not a place to put my tent. I detest the mentality of the average Joe in Dem cities. Rasing a kid there will be a no for me.
S

No matter how insane the US is it can never be as insane as a lawless shithole where nothing works.
A second class citizen in the US lives a far better quality of life than some big men in Niggeria.
You keep talkingnof this many people yet if I probe it will be one or two people you happen to meet.
I believe in facts backed by statistics. Mathematics dont lie. One plus one is 2 anywhere you go. You may not like it but it is what it is.
Its not a coincidence when you see long ass queues outside embassies of countries like US and UK

Why are there no such crowds outside the embassies of countries like Eritrea and Somalia?

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio? You havent answered that one you are telling me about "some people".
You are talking of holidays as if Niggerians take holidays.
Go to all the popular vacation spots around the world you will hardly see Niggerians there even in the peak of summer.

...Easy on him pls!

Tzar:
Wicked Nigerian! You are hailing a hell-like country from afar. Why not return and tear whatever foreign documentation you have. Were alasho (clothed mad person)!

when are you coming back to naija Abeg

Jeromejnr:


Living in Nigeria is better in many instances. And because people don't come back as much does not mean they wouldn't like to.

It's just like someone in Nigeria at a job they hate and they complain about constantly buy yet don't leave because of fear or inability to get a better one. And people then ask them why don't they leave that job.

This was why I made the last statement in my earlier comment.

Many would prefer U.S as a vacation spot but as for daily living and interactions and freedom, people would prefer their home country.

That's why many comfortable and rich people live in Nigeria. Its mostly the uncomfortable that want to escape. And there is no problem in that.

Many people do not like the taxation, loneliness, racism e.t.c that they experience over there.

How many of the 'rich' folks will thrive in America ??

henro757:

E be like say you dey dream, Nigeria were if you nor use your fone for some time your number go jump to another person phone?
or you buy credit and try and recharge E nor gree you for up to two weeks?
In the USa if u cant pay rent there is housing for free, in 9ja nothing like that even at the so-called free land you go settle area boys still and it will cost you to build your temp house/duelling.

Where in the US do you get free housing if you can't pay rent or you mean homeless shelters?

Jaqenhghar:

No matter how insane the US is it can never be as insane as a lawless shithole where nothing works.
A second class citizen in the US lives a far better quality of life than some big men in Niggeria.
You keep talkingnof this many people yet if I probe it will be one or two people you happen to meet.
I believe in facts backed by statistics. Mathematics dont lie. One plus one is 2 anywhere you go. You may not like it but it is what it is.
Its not a coincidence when you see long ass queues outside embassies of countries like US and UK

Why are there no such crowds outside the embassies of countries like Eritrea and Somalia?

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio? You havent answered that one you are telling me about "some people".
You are talking of holidays as if Niggerians take holidays.
Go to all the popular vacation spots around the world you will hardly see Niggerians there even in the peak of summer.

Mr. Man what are you saying? And why are you arguing off point?

My comment you first quoted was based on those who are wealthy in the country of which I know many. And who couldn't care for moving to the U.S. Just like I also don't care like many of you.

I also said, there is nothing bad in someone uncomfortable moving out of the country. There are obviously more poor people in Nigeria than the rich. Why won't the embassies be full?

And your statement on second class citizens living far better than wealthy people in Nigeria just shows your sentiments not founded on reality and facts. What are they enjoying..lol...come Abuja first make I show you something...no be all these fake mathematics talk you dey yarn. How many wealthy Northerners or Igbo people do you even see running to go live abroad?

Is it not the abroad people visit anyhow?

Because you haven't met or don't know people.. doesn't mean others do not know.

There are also people who I know want to come back...but they can't because they have no worthy investment in Nigeria. And because they have valid reason of wanting to do so.

So when I see people abroad who write topics here on Nairaland about how they prefer Nigeria to the U.S and you ppl abuse them, I just shake my head.

Abeg leave mata.

This...Numbers don't lie!

Jaqenhghar:

No matter how insane the US is it can never be as insane as a lawless shithole where nothing works.
A second class citizen in the US lives a far better quality of life than some big men in Niggeria.
You keep talkingnof this many people yet if I probe it will be one or two people you happen to meet.
I believe in facts backed by statistics. Mathematics dont lie. One plus one is 2 anywhere you go. You may not like it but it is what it is.
Its not a coincidence when you see long ass queues outside embassies of countries like US and UK

Why are there no such crowds outside the embassies of countries like Eritrea and Somalia?

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio? You havent answered that one you are telling me about "some people".
You are talking of holidays as if Niggerians take holidays.
Go to all the popular vacation spots around the world you will hardly see Niggerians there even in the peak of summer.

shegzhkn:


How many of the 'rich' folks will thrive in America ??

They don't need America to thrive. They are already thriving.

Nigerians and delusions

henro757:

I tire oh when generator dey there lol

Who is talking about generators. Having 24 hrs electricity in Nigeria in 2021 is no longer rocket science or should be the reason to want to travel abroad.

Jeromejnr:


They don't need America to thrive. They are already thriving.

Lol, tell me how rich men are made in Nigeria.

It Not a US issue here, the reason they don't stay in the state is the same for Countries like Singapore or Norway.

They only get to keep their wealth by staying in underdeveloped country.

Jeromejnr:


Mr. Man what are you saying? And why are you arguing off point?

My comment you first quoted was based on those who are wealthy in the country of which I know many. And who couldn't care for moving to the U.S. Just like I also don't care like many of you.

I also said, there is nothing bad in someone uncomfortable moving out of the country. There are obviously more poor people in Nigeria than the rich. Why won't the embassies be full?

And your statement on second class citizens living far better than wealthy people in Nigeria just shows your sentiments not founded on reality and facts. What are they enjoying..lol...come Abuja first make I show you something...no be all these fake mathematics talk you dey yarn. How many wealthy Northerners or Igbo people do you even see running to go live abroad?

Is it not the abroad people visit anyhow?

Because you haven't met or don't know people.. doesn't mean others do not know.

There are also people who I know want to come back...but they can't because they have no worthy investment in Nigeria. And because they have valid reason of wanting to do so.

So when I see people abroad who write topics here on Nairaland about how they prefer Nigeria to the U.S and you ppl abuse them, I just shake my head.

Abeg leave mata.

LOL. Mathematics and logic rules over emotion and assumption any day. If you people employed more of that the country wont be the way it is.

See as you dey contradict yourself. You agree that poor people should migrate but at the same time you argue that living standards are better in Niggeria. If its so much better and so kind why are the poor ( and even the rich) willing to go and face racism and heavy taxation there?

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio

? 
Still I ask and you must give me my answer

shegzhkn:


Lol, tell me how rich men are made in Nigeria.

It Not a US issue here, the reason they don't stay in the state is the same for Countries like Singapore or Norway.

They only get to keep their wealth by staying in underdeveloped country.

Ogbeni, that's not my own business.

The fact is, they don't need America.

And not everyone or everything is about money.

Someone like me, no matter the amount of money cannot enjoy Sweden. And people who have not been there would not understand.

Elnon:
This...Numbers don't lie!

Bless you. But according to him Mathematics is fake because it doesnt support his beliefs

Jeromejnr:


Ogbeni, that's not my own business.

The fact is, they don't need America.

And not everyone or everything is about money.

Someone like me, no matter the amount of money cannot enjoy Sweden. And people who have not been there would not understand.

Not everything is about money, Lol.

Of course they don't need america, does america need them too ??, people that at best will become middle class family in America with all their wealth.

And they need to stay in a Nigeria to keep growing their wealth now, you know how rich folks are made in the country don't you ??

Jaqenhghar:


LOL. Mathematics and logic rules over emotion and assumption any day. If you people employed more of that the country wont be the way it is.

See as you dey contradict yourself. You agree that poor people should migrate but at the same time you argue that living standards are better in Niggeria. If its so much better and so kind why are the poor ( and even the rich) willing to go and face racism and heavy taxation there?
? 
Still I ask and you must give me my answer

See how in am effort to try and justify your false narratives you create a strawman Argument.

When for goodness sake did I say standard of living is better in Nigeria for everyone.

Please if you have comprehension issues stay of this argument.

There are many people who have been and live in the U.S that agree with what I earlier said.

When you have facts to make a logical argument, then quote me.

P.S: also the last question you posed shows you really have problems comprehending a message.

All these people wey never travel anywhere go dey argue. If you want to travel, travel.. no body hold you.

I want to watch a movie abeg.

Ciao.

shegzhkn:




Not everything is about money, Lol.

Of course they don't need america, does america need them too, people that at best are will become upper middle income family in America with all their wealth.

And they need to stay in a Nigeria to keep growing their wealth now, you know how rich folks are made in the country don't you ??

Bros you never go anywhere be that.

America needs wealthy Nigerians and will welcome them because they love to grow their economy.

All these money money money talk...its not good to be broke o. When you are much older, you will understand life ain't about money.

People are keeping 2 to 3 jobs in the U.S to flaunt it to you and you think they are in heaven.

It is well.

Jeromejnr:


See how in am effort to try and justify your false narratives you create a strawman Argument.

When for goodness sake did I say standard of living is better in Nigeria for everyone.

Please if you have comprehension issues stay of this argument.

There are many people who have been and live in the U.S that agree with what I earlier said.

When you have facts to make a logical argument, then quote me.

P.S: also the last question you posed shows you really have problems comprehending a message.

All these people wey never travel anywhere go dey argue. If you want to travel, travel.. no body hold you.

I want to watch a movie abeg.

Ciao.

LOL. Like I say you can't argue with maths and logic. If you like vex for me you must answer my question.

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio? 

Please when you go watch your movie make sure there is enough fuel in that generator. Also ensure that the exhaust is far from your window

planetx:
Where in the US do you get free housing if you can't pay rent or you mean homeless shelters?

People who live in projects who do not work how do they pay rent?

henro757:

You watch toomuch TV thats your problem
you are a minimum wage aerner and you want to live in a whole apartment? why not house share? so you can pay for a room all-inclusive? who you wan to impress?
U drink and drive that your problem at least you get arrested in Nigeria you crash into people's house and kill a family and a whole generation spot the difference?
Even though you get a DWI in your record not everyone go to look for employment, loads of people are self-employed..DO your research very well you will be suprised howmany ex prisoners are working with skills acquired from corectional facilities.

I dont know how old u are but at some age u cannot house share anymore. Especially if u have child.

I m thanking from experience not tv as u think.

Just telling u the difference in naija, even police are drunk or intoxicated but abroad u can end up in jail for drinking too bottles and driving and not killing any body

Jaqenhghar:

LOL. Like I say you can't argue with maths and logic. If you like vex for me you must answer my question.


Please when you go watch your movie make sure there is enough fuel in that generator. Also ensure that the exhaust is far from your window

Eyha...lol..wen last did I even see a generator.

And I also recommend a comprehension test for you. Because the silly question you are asking, people already understood it in my first post.

Okay bye now.

This could not make it Nigeria, he ran to us. Even in US, here is he confused and can not make it there!

Can he ever make it in life?

He pays $40,000 monthly on phone bills

The guy is nothing but a liar

A crazy liar

Lostchild:
He pays $40,000 monthly on phone bills

The guy is nothing but a liar

A crazy liar

You are the one that added the dollar sign to the figure. 40K naira equivalent it is.

Jeromejnr:


Bros you never go anywhere be that.

America needs wealthy Nigerians and will welcome them because they love to grow their economy.

All these money money money talk...its not good to be broke o. When you are much older, you will understand life ain't about money.

People are keeping 2 to 3 jobs in the U.S to flaunt it to you and you think they are in heaven.

It is well.

Son, never ever try to lecture me about the United States.

This thing still subscribes to the old philosophical idea that Nigeria is a wealthy country, a near failed state.

The same country that spend just a little above 30B USD to run it affairs, a country of about 200M people.

The fact that you are just getting by in that country and you look a lil bit better than millions does not mean everyone likes to live like that.

And yes the US like to develop it economy and they don't really need money from your 'elite' because all the resources they had will almost be equivalent to nothing in the states, South Korea, Germany and our allies are doing just that.

Besides Saudi is pouring billions to support jobs in America the magnitude poor countries like yours will only realize in 10 years selling hydro carbon.

You seems to over estimate the significant of that country and the people who refer to themselves as rich, maybe it blind optimism or stupidity or sheer ignorant who knows ??

sonnie10:


You are the one that added the dollar sign to the figure. 40K naira equivalent it is.

Oh. OK
I see my mistake already

Thanks for correcting me

sonnie10:


You are the one that added the dollar sign to the figure. 40K naira equivalent it is.

Converting it to naira is foolish and doesnt give an accurate picture of the purchasing power of the dollar.

In parts of europe a cup of coffee is about 2 euros
Which when you convert to naira is almost 1k naira. But almost everyone can afford to buy that cup of coffee

shegzhkn:


Son, never ever try to lecture me about the United States.

This thing still subscribes to the old philosophical idea that Nigeria is a wealthy country, a near failed state.

The same country that spend just a little above 30B USD to run it affairs, a country of about 200M people.

The fact that you are just getting by in that country and you look a lil bit better than millions does not mean everyone likes to live like that.

And yes the US like to develop it economy and they don't really need money from your 'elite' because all the resources they had will almost be equivalent to nothing in the states, South Korea, Germany and our allies are doing just that.

Besides Saudi is pouring billions to support jobs in America the magnitude poor countries like yours will only realize in 10 years selling hydro carbon.

You seems to over estimate the significant of that country and the people who refer to themselves as rich, maybe it blind optimism or stupidity or sheer ignorant who knows ??

Oga go sit down abeg.

Maybe you just want to argue for argument sake by pointing things that I never inferred.

I can actually lecture you on the disparities between the U.S and Nigerian economy.

I never (for your comprehension) ever said Nigeria economy was better and favorable for everyone. I only pointed out a minor instance.

Please go back and reread my previous comment. Because you are already talking off point. And like i pointed out not everyone is all about money.

Besides, how much do many rich people have in the U.S compared to the elites in Nigeria? Who are the people buying many expensive properties in Dubai and U.K? How much does a governor have here compared to a governor in the U.S? Have you been to the embassy to see how they are willing to grant VISA'S to rich elites for their investments over in their country? Have you been to the North to see how people spend money there?

Saudi has only a minority stake of investments of nearly 10billion in the U.S and you are busy screaming with false info. How much is that compared to the whole U.S?

Sayonara.