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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Edeyoung: 1:51pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Ewuare 1 is a ‘fairytale’, courtesy of Walt Disney production studios.


Are you now just a mere troll, youre useless to me these days


You can't even prove ormoiyan existence
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 1:53pm On Apr 20, 2021
Edeyoung:
[s]Oromiyan was invented by a yoruba man in 1902By Samuel Johnson who wrote on the history of yoruba inother to unite the yoruba together the time he wrote his book yoruba were in civil war amongst themselves Ife in ancient time was known as a very religious yoruba town respected by oyo people most especially, Samuel Johnson who happened to be from oyo, wrote a fantasy story and linked all Yorubas to ife so as to unite them allMost yorubas rejected it when they were aware soon Nigeria was amalgamated and a new country was formed, there was need for yorubas to unite and they went back to the story book written by Samuel Johnson and they accepted itThis was possible by the help of awiolowo In other not to be cheated by hierarchy in this new accepted myth, they accepted every single clan came from oduduwa directly and not from migration from an existing clan Oba eweka accepted this myth for political strengthen for the edos he meant with the ooni and they welcomed him as one of oduduwa son According to Samuel Johnson myth writren in 1902 oromiyan was oba of benin immidiate younger brother Samuel johson was fully aware in 1902 bini was not a yoruba tribe he was aware bini fought in the yoruba war of 1800, protecting ondo and ekiti from oyo forces... So he was aware of bini presence amongst yoruba so he decided to include as a son of oduduwa to promote his book to the EuropeansBut after Nigeria amalgamation the myth which was written by samuel johson which state oromiyan was oba of bini younger brothers Was changed to a different myth entirely to a different history, that oromiyan who was a warrior came to conquer benin and install the royal stool Guy benin and ife never had any history together before Nigeria was formed as a countryIfe was nothing before the European arrived[/s]
Another heap of CRAP as is to be expected from my rag. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:02pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
@Edeyoung (aka @gregyboy), I am glad that you’ve now agreed with me that:

(1) Ewuare 1 & Esigie, et al. are ‘fairytales’.

(2) Non-Fiction Benin kingdom started in c.1850

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13419328_d3c7a1bb374e426f86c4648c8e48a9a4_jpeg_jpegfee34513dbfc90248a63aa98ce0a71a0

I am also glad that your distractive screenshot says that Binis LIED about conquering Lagos. shocked

Everyone now agrees that Binis are chronic liars. Thank you @Edeyoung (aka @gregyboy) for this.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:08pm On Apr 20, 2021
You have already been initiated as king’s slave.

And your slave-master (the king) said Oranmiyan is his fore-father. Periodt. grin
Edeyoung:
[s]Are you now just a mere troll, youre useless to me these days You can't even prove ormoiyan existence[/s]
Where is the lie in the ‘proven fact’ that Ewuare 1 is a ‘fairytale’ from Walter Disney production studios ?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by fregeneh(m): 3:06pm On Apr 20, 2021
Simbrixton:
binis hate for yoruba is just to feel among its because igbos hate yorubas na copy copy level


just to try to elevate their empty self's to the levil of their yoruba master and fell a little important

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by davidnazee: 3:44pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO12:
You have already been initiated as king’s slave.

And your slave-master (the king) said Oranmiyan is his fore-father. Periodt. grin
Where is the lie in the ‘proven fact’ that Ewuare 1 is a ‘fairytale’ from Walter Disney production studios ?


Your yoruba brethren are probably ashamed of you.. you are the only one arguing with hate and frustration..
The others are not like you..
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 3:49pm On Apr 20, 2021
davidnazee:
[s]Your yoruba brethren are probably ashamed of you.. you are the only one arguing with hate and frustration..The others are not like you..[/s]
Unrelenting devastating refutations of chronic Benin lies could actually feel like “hAtE aNd fRuStRaTiOn” to a deluded Bini bigot.

Your plight is therefore understandable. But take it easy because this too shall pass.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 3:54pm On Apr 20, 2021
The following discusses more proofs that Benin obas are indeed the Ife-Yoruba descendants they they are:

Some Yoruba praise-titles of Benin obas were collected and published by Richard E. Dennett.

Three of such Yoruba titles of the Benin obas which were collected and published by him are:

(1) Ọba (”OBA), (2) Àdìmúlà (”ADIMILA [sic]), (3) Õṣà-[Ì]kejì (”O SAKEJI [sic]). cheesy

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13422134_a91c69eed6004812b4d577b58af03a8d_jpeg_jpeg46b30fba3f0d0cd12f3e53a6e04a1142
Reference: Richard. E. Dennett; “At The Back of the Black Man’s Mind”: Or Notes on the Kingly Office in West Africa; London, Macmillan and Co., Limited (The New York Macmillan Company); 1906, p. 181.

Cheers!

Cc: sangresan

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 4:09pm On Apr 20, 2021
[quote author=TAO11 post=100941969


Attempt it and let me help you shred it into pieces with facts and received Benin accounts.




No serious academic, expert historian would venture into damaging h/ I will not, the burden of proof is on your 'brother' the same 'brother' that has consistently denied your existence and affinity with your cursed tribe and affirmed his Benin root strongly, the grandfather walked away from your cursed western region in 1963 and the son in 2004 made a statement that he does not have an affinity with your dirty yaribanza bastard tribes and the present monarch is affirming it strongly. When you are free you can walk into the Benin palace and try to convince the Oba that Oduduwa is originally from ife and I wish you luck while you try as this nairaland testament will certainly not be enough and also go and check on Nigerian people and culture by AD NZEMEKE AND E O ERHAGBE. the book state that oduduwa is originally from Benin. The first editor is a retired professor from the University of Benin, the second is a very big professor now in the University of Benin. you can go behead him or if you have the powers to, strip him of his professorship. We have decided to tell our history our way and not the oluwole history told by yaribastard because of their early advantage to education in their attempt to subdue the greater Benin . EDOIRISIAGBON
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:20pm On Apr 20, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]I will not, the burden of proof is on your 'brother' the same 'brother' that has consistently denied your existence and affinity with your cursed tribe and affirmed his Benin root strongly, the grandfather walked away from your cursed western region in 1963 and the son in 2004 made a statement that he does not have an affinity with your dirty yaribanza bastard tribes and the present monarch is affirming it strongly. When you are free you can walk into the Benin palace and try to convince the Oba that Oduduwa is originally from ife and I wish you luck while you try as this nairaland testament will certainly not be enough and also go and check on Nigerian people and culture by AD NZEMEKE AND E O ERHAGBE. the book state that oduduwa is originally from Benin. The first editor is a retired professor from the University of Benin, the second is a very big professor now in the University of Benin. you can go behead him or if you have the powers to, strip him of his professorship. We have decided to tell our history our way and not the oluwole history told by yaribastard because of their early advantage to education in their attempt to subdue the greater Benin . EDOIRISIAGBON[/s]
It doesn’t matter if you follow my plea to embarrass yourself or if you won’t.

What matters is that the ancestors of your present-day slave-master (i.e. the ancestors of your present king) have affirmed their Ife patrilineal ancestry at different times. For example:

(1) They have Yoruba praise-titles as demonstrated in my foregoing comment.

(2) Omonoba Eweka 2 informed H. L. Ward Price that he (Eweka 2) must direct supplications to Yorubaland every morning before he (Eweka 2) begins his day.

He (Eweka 2) noted that they (Benin obas) must direct supplications first to Ife, then to Oyo, then to Benin, and then to other parts of Yorubaland — everyday at dawn.

He (Eweka 2) mentions that all Benin obas do this in the morning at dawn everyday

(3) Omonoba Akenzua 2 was one of the obas who attended the first conference of “Yoruba chiefs” where he agreed to the concession which pronounced each of the obas as having sprung originally from Ife.

Take heart because this too shall pass. ❤️

Cc: Simbrixton, nisai, sangresan

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 4:24pm On Apr 20, 2021
Edeyoung:



Oromiyan was invented by a yoruba man in 1902
By Samuel Johnson who wrote on the history of yoruba inother to unite the yoruba together


Durubf the time he wrote his book yoruba were in civil war amongst themselves

Ife in ancient time was known as a very religious yoruba town respected by oyo people most especially, Samuel Johnson who happened to be from oyo, wrote a fantasy story and linked all Yorubas to ife so as to unite them all


Most yorubas rejected it when they were aware soon Nigeria was amalgamated and a new country was formed, there was need for yorubas to unite and they went back to the story book written by Samuel Johnson and they accepted it
This was possible by the help of awiolowo


In other not to be cheated by hierarchy in this new accepted myth, they accepted every single clan came from oduduwa directly and not from migration from an existing clan

Oba eweka accepted this myth for political strengthen for the edos he meant with the ooni and they welcomed him as one of oduduwa son


According to Samuel Johnson myth writren in 1902 oromiyan was oba of benin immidiate younger brother Samuel johson was fully aware in 1902 bini was not a yoruba tribe he was aware bini fought in the yoruba war of 1800, protecting ondo and ekiti from oyo forces... So he was aware of bini presence amongst yoruba so he decided to include as a son of oduduwa to promote his book to the Europeans

But after Nigeria amalgamation the myth which was written by samuel johson which state oromiyan was oba of bini younger brothers

Was changed to a different myth entirely to a different history, that oromiyan who was a warrior came to conquer benin and install the royal stool



Guy benin and ife never had any history together before Nigeria was formed as a country
Ife was nothing before the European arrived
.


TAO11 hope you holding your 2ears as you read the above, even the Oba of Lagos told the Ooni same

Some Yoruba's say they came from Mecca while some say they are Hebrews and now this Bobrisky is dancing Eyo masquerade with Yoruba history.
You don't need to tell me about Benin history cause when but that of the Yoruba's come from different perspective with plenty religious sentiments attach to it.

I want to know which angle Bobrisky is coming from cause I have seen them here saying different thing of how they got to Ife and where they originated from

Samuel Johnson or not one thing we all know and have seen is the extreme dilution of culture especially that of the Yorubas politically and spiritually,
If the narratives given far back by Olaudah Equiano, has been disputed is it a book written by a slave claiming Yoruba ancestry that one will want to use as reference material
what I want to do is to dissect and carry out surgical history on TAO11 aka Bobrisky the Inspector, Lagos which is a joke to Benin and Calabar in terms of history, culture damned their revered city and the Ooni couple of months while a Bobrisky a common subject is here trying to teach us history
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 4:26pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:

It doesn’t matter if you follow my plea to embarrass yourself or if you won’t.

What matters is that the ancestors of your present-day slave-master (i.e. the ancestors of your present king) have affirmed their Ife patrilineal ancestry at different times. For example:

(1) The have Yoruba praise-titles toll has demonstrated in my foregoing comment.

(2) Omonoba Eweka 2 informed H. L. Ward Price that he (Eweka 2) must direct supplications to Yorubaland every morning before he (Eweka 2) begins his day.

He (Eweka 2) mentions that all Benin kings do this in the morning at dawn everyday

That they must direct the supplications first to Ife, then to Oyo, then to Benin, and then to other Yoruba parts.

(3) Omonoba Akenzua 2 of was one of the obas who attended the first conference of “Yoruba chiefs” where he agreed to the concession which pronounced each of the obas as having sprung originally from Ife.

Take heart because this too shall pass. ❤️

Cc: Simbrixton, nisai,
shey he is your 'brother and not my 'brother' go and convince your brother that AISOKUOBA IGBINOGHODUA is Yoruba and not Benin. yaribastard coward tribe . shey you Sabi strip career go and strip professor EO ERHAGBE career for uniben na. the burden of proof is on your brother � not me I am not your brothers 'slave'
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:27pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]TAO11 hope you holding your 2ears as you read the above, even the Oba of Lagos told the Ooni same Some Yoruba's say they came from Mecca while some say they are Hebrews and now this Bobrisky is dancing Eyo masquerade with Yoruba history.You don't need to tell me about Benin history cause when but that of the Yoruba's come from different perspective with plenty religious sentiments attach to it. I want to know which angle Bobrisky is coming from cause I have seen them here saying different thing of how they got to Ife and where they originated fromSamuel Johnson or not one thing we all know and have seen is the extreme dilution of culture especially that of the Yorubas politically and spiritually,If the narratives given far back by Olaudah Equiano, has been disputed is it a book written by a slave claiming Yoruba ancestry that one will want to use as reference material what I want to do is to dissect and carry out surgical history on TAO11 aka Bobrisky the Inspector, Lagos which is a joke to Benin and Calabar in terms of history, culture damned their revered city and the Ooni couple of months while a Bobrisky a common subject is here trying to teach us history[/s]
Yes, I asked you to cry me for 5 different oceans, and you’re beginning to prove that you are up to the task.

Keep it rolling boy. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 4:28pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Retype your comment in English language please. cheesy
In the meantime, remember you are the king’s slave.

Your slave-master (the king) said Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Stop insisting that your slave-master is a lunatic. grin

Ewuare 1 is, however, a fairytale from Disney Cartoon production studios — says your Benin brothers.

Deal with all the Benin mess.
.


Heheheh! Hohoho.....very very funny, abeg answer the question

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:29pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Heheheh! Hohoho.....very very funny, abeg answer the question[/s]
Whenever you type it in English.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 4:31pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Yes, I asked you for 5 different ocean of tears, and you’re beginning to prove that you are up to the task.

Keep it rolling boy. cheesy
.

Go fetch my pipe I wanna puff some tobacco for you good, baby
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:33pm On Apr 20, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]shey he is your 'brother and not my 'brother' go and convince your brother that AISOKUOBA IGBINOGHODUA is Yoruba and not Benin yaribastard coward tribe . shey you Sabi strip career go and strip professor EO ERHAGBE career for uniben na. the burden of proof is on your brother � not me I am not your brothers 'slave'[/s]
E. O. Erhagbe: Is that the name of a brand of beer? Can we drink it?

In which journal article did the so-called Erhagbe publish his fairytale ‘Izoduwa’ and called it history?

Anyways, I’m glad you’ve seen the 3-listed facts which tells you who your obas are.

You shall be alright.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:34pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
Go fetch my pipe I wanna puff some tobacco for you good, baby
You’re beginning to lack content and idea.

No! You should do better. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 4:41pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
E. O. Erhagbe: Is that the name of a brand of beer? Can we drink it?

In which journal article did the so-called Erhagbe publish his fairytale ‘Izoduwa’ and called it history?

Anyways, I’m glad you’ve seen the 3-listed facts which tells you who your obas are.

You shall be alright.
That is the name of a professor bigger than your entire existence you 21 year old 3 level numbskull from one oluwole school in dirty western Nigeria. go and read that book, you can't tell Edo history for Edos and when you are done try convince your 'brother' that he is your 'brother' and when he does not affirm you can kill yourself that is the history taught in the great University of Benin you should be very concerned for your Yoruba brothers who are schooling there shouldn't you lowself-esteem bastard
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 4:43pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
You’re beginning to lack content and idea.

No! You should do better. cheesy



Where do you stand, Oranmiyan fiction or real?
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:45pm On Apr 20, 2021
Historians of African & Benin history (the world over) have deemed the Izoduwa forgery to be, at best, an interesting nonsense.
UGBE634:
[s]That is the name of a professor bigger than your entire existence you 21 year old 3 level numbskull from one oluwole school in dirty western Nigeria. go and read that book, you can't tell Edo history for Edos and when you are done try convince your 'brother' that he is your 'brother' and when he does not affirm you can kill yourself that is the history taught in the great University of Benin you should be very concerned for your Yoruba brothers who are schooling there shouldn't you lowself-esteem bastard[/s]
Wake me up whenever you can point to the academic Journal that published your pRoFeSsOr’s ‘Izoduwa’ fairytales as history. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 4:47pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
Where do you stand, Oranmiyan fiction or real?
Your oba said Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Now I should be asking where you stand. LMAO! cheesy

PS: Remeber your prestigious title — Oba’s slave. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 5:05pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Your oba said Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Now I should be asking where you stand. LMAO! cheesy

PS: Remeber your prestigious title — Oba’s slave. cheesy
.

According to a yoruba FRAUD with a British name Samuel Johnson( in your words)
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 5:10pm On Apr 20, 2021
[quote author=TAO11 post=100965162]Historians of African & Benin history (the world over) have deemed the Izoduwa forgery to be, at best, an interesting nonsense.[quote]

This is a professor of history that is bigger than your entire existence. you can go online and search him, his pedigree can't be compared with your oluwole professors. his name is known everywhere, he is not your mate
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:12pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
According to a yoruba FRAUD with a British name Samuel Johnson( in your words)
Oh really!? shocked

Your oba (Ewuare 2) adapted that information from Samuel Johnson ?? Wonderful revelation! grin

So, if not for Johnson your oba would not have known that Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Thank you Samuel Johnson for the ancestry guide you gave to Omonoba Ewuare 2 and his late father smiley

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:13pm On Apr 20, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]This is a professor of history that is bigger than your entire existence. you can go online and search him, his pedigree can't be compared with your oluwole professors. his name is known everywhere, he is not your mate[/s]
Wake me up whenever you can point to the academic Journal that published your pRoFeSsOr’S ‘Izoduwa’ fairytales as history.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 5:16pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Oh really!? shocked

Your oba (Ewuare 2) adapted that information from Samuel Johnson? Wonderful revelation! grin

So, if not for Johnson your oba would not have known that Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Thank you Samuel Johnson for the ancestry guide you gave to Omonoba Ewuare 2 smiley
.

Interesting, so the Oba aligned with the story of a returnee Yoruba slave, can you link me to that.....source, Bobrisky
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:18pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]I nteresting, so the Oba aligned with the story of a returnee Yoruba slave, can you link me to that.....source, [/s]
Your oba said Oranmiyan is his forefather.

Agree with your oba or disagree with your oba?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by KingOKON: 5:24pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Your oba said Oranmiyan is his forefather.

Agree with your oba or disagree with your oba?
.

Verifiable source plz or stop sounding like the Yoruba fraud Samuel Johnson
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by UGBE634: 5:25pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
Your oba said Oranmiyan is his forefather.

Agree with your oba or disagree with your oba?
the same Oba has said oronmiyan is omonoyan, argue or disagree with him, the son of izoduwa (oduduwa) from Benin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:26pm On Apr 20, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Verifiable source plz or stop sounding like the Yoruba fraud Samuel Johnson[/s]

Lol. Timestamp 13:22 to 13:41


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

So, now you’ve learnt fOr tHe FiRsT tImE that your king admits Oranmiyan as his ancestor. Lol.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:28pm On Apr 20, 2021
UGBE634:
the same Oba has said oronmiyan is omonoyan, argue or disagree with him, the son of izoduwa (oduduwa) from Benin
(1) You are bound to swallow everything he says — you are his slave.

(2) I am NOT bound to agree with everything he says — he is my brother.

(3) Historians have confirmed that Oranmiyan indeed is his ancestor.

(4) Historians drew the line and noted that the Izoduwa-cum-omonoyan fiction is an interesting nonsense.

(5) I go with the historians on all these details.

PS: By the way, your Omonoba dares NOT repeat the Izoduwa fiction at the Ife palace when he came for the usual post-ascension homage. cheesy See the above video.

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