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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 1:20pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Can you please provide a link to the document? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:41pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 6:32pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Anticipated induction of new frigate to enhance the war fighting capability of the Nigerian Navy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cUMrmlc240 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:54pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Covert1: Cant for a new frigate to replace NNS Aradu. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jimi24: 8:02pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Maybe Chinese Type 054A Frigate is the best. MEKO frigates are almost too expensive at close to $1bn apiece. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 8:17pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Jimi24:$1billion for frigate? Meko A200 is not even upto half that amount. A frigate in most european navies is equivalent of destroyer in most nations. Even a destroyer (type 052) is less than that amount. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 8:35pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
iblawi:he shock you? but most destroyer of european are call frigate |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 8:44pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
bidexiii:Guess u mean can't wait. You bet can't wait either not least for the prestige it brings too. And since the idea is to replace Aradu as flagship it can't come with anything less of the full complement of armaments for all spectrum of advanced Naval warfare. Whatever comes should have cruise missiles to shut down any doubter in the region. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:01pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 9:02pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX:Yes. Mostly the tonnage of frigate in regular navies range from 2000 - 4500 tonnes but in most NATO navies a frigate will range from 4500 - 7000 tonnes. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 9:26pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
iblawi: Nowadays some countries in europe go by the number of VLS launchers. 16-24 Launchers Corvette, >24-48 Launchers Frigate, >48-72 Launchers Destroyers. I am sure the NN will a light frigate in the 2500-3000tons range. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 9:27pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
ugo4u:Hypocrites not unexpected. Given the circumstances even powerful African nations are lining up for stability. We face a mortal enemy up north and dealing with the devil maybe one of the few options. Though I don't see a long term future for the younger Déby Itno in N'djamena. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 9:59pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
SuperSixSeven: At the end of the day the size of the ship will determine the compliments of weapons that the ship can carry and that would still directly / indirectly determine the tonnage. The Nigerian navy won't get anything below 3000 tonnes as the 2 likely ships would be Meko 200 (3700 tonnes) or type 054 (4200 tonnes). |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 10:06pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
In modern times the transforming of a country into a great power has traditionally coincided with the development of a powerful navy. The prestige associated with the Battleship led many countries to invest huge amounts of money into weapons platforms that they neither needed or in many cases could afford. A very good documentary series on the history of the platform can be found here. What made the acquisition of these weapons so attractive was that they were seen as an expression of national power. In much the same way, nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines and aircraft carries now act as expressions of national power. It need not matter how old the carrier, the possession carrier is seen as mark that a state is important, that it is formidable and needs to be taken seriously; at least by those states that want to acquire them. As a result, states with little or no desire to project power, can end up fielding expensive carries and nuclear submarines. Culled from Prestige And Naval Power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU5jlUKrvEs NNS Thunder Departing Sydney Australia |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 11:28pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
iblawi: Todays maximum warship armament is more about available deck space rather than tonnage. The south african MEKO200s sports16VLS and 8 ASM while 3700t and 121m. (needless to say the SA MEKOs are underutilized). In contrast to the israeli Saar6 corvette has 72VLS, 16ASM on a 1900t and 90m platform. We can see even a compact ship can deliver substantial firepower if properly armed. Frigates like the Sigma 10513 of the Marocco Navy should be considered with 105m and 2300t representing the best Light Frigates currently available. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 5:44am On Apr 23, 2021 |
SuperSixSeven:you are right to some extent but am not talking about VLS alone but the full complements of weapons carried on a ship. Requirements of navies around the world determine the proportion of Sub-surface, surface to surface, surface to Air and EW suite. The FERMM is a good example. The system of every operator is different and directly or indirectly affected the tonnage/size of individual naval ships. I understand the fact that some modern corvette have better systems than some older frigate it's normal because technology keep improving. Available deck space you talk about will limit certain technologies on small ships like corvette no matter how hard you try. Am very sure south african valour class frigates can have more than 16 VLS (should be 32) but their navy didn't see any need for it. Meko200 is also one of the best frigates in the world. I don't know much about the Israeli ship you talked about but having 72 VLS on a corvette is crazy and I still doubt it. I will look into that In the morning. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 7:18am On Apr 23, 2021 |
Does anyone knows the reason NN doesn't have a corvette, cos I know they could have gotten it all this while if they wanted to. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:40am On Apr 23, 2021 |
Covert1: Yep...cant wait ![]() It's high time man ! |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:42am On Apr 23, 2021 |
NAF MiG-21UM trainer then and its carcass now, images of operational NAF MiG-21s are quite rare ! 3 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by cutievik: 9:17am On Apr 23, 2021 |
51 Zamfara farmers killed for farming without permission from Bandits... Are we helpless? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Npfn: 11:37am On Apr 23, 2021 |
cutievik:very sad this is too much 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 12:16pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Heavy nigeria sf in chad |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:43pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: Bloody Chad 90th military in the world send packing nuclear capable number 7th in the world with the biggest military alliance in the world (NATO), Did you eat pepper soup in your dream? 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 12:44pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:49pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Under the pacte Coloniele agreement, France is entitled to 60% of Chad's wealth, formerly 80% in exchange for political & military stability. Idris derby has been a very loyal ally of France for 30yrs helping in French led OPS Barkhane in Northern Mali, why will France deliberately destroy two countries he is feeding from? Makes no logical sense. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:52pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Sizzorkay: Strong militaries in the AU dont ever commit troops in Francophone conflicts because in the end, the UNSC will ratify all military interventions & France will squash everything with her veto, do you expect Nigeria to return to Mali like we did in 2013? hell no!! 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:55pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
kabe1: Has AU deployed the so called 8,000 troops for COIN OPS in Nigeria? people just talk without practical knowledge. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by IGpro1(m): 1:04pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
jpphilips:Guinea bissau did it and was successful, though the French had to burn down almost everything they belt. Chad can pull through. But now isn't the right time, because bokoharam and Libyan militias will take advantage, and France I know, will support whoever will make Chad bleed. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by IGpro1(m): 1:06pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
jpphilips:so in your mind, Nigeria that rejected Africom will now accept Common AU troops. seems you don't know your country. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:23pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
where in the world did i mentioned Chad using military force to send france packing? and who gives a fvk about them having nuke. In 2021 you think they will use nuke against chad? stop jumping backwards digging up old comments. We've moved on from it. see ya jpphilips: 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:27pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Leave the man. Chad and france aren't at war. Chad is a sovereign nation. Its their right. they don't even have to use force or be rude. play the pity game of the small guy being bullied and colonized in it's own country and you will see world opinion going against france. you can't force your presence on another country you aren't at war with and no agreement in place for what duration you will be there, if there was an agreement a d money was paid to Chad, then France have the right to not leave etc. if anything france will bribe them with more assistance in other to stay. IGpro1: 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 1:35pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Ecowas doesn't need the blessing of the UNSC to deploy troops within West Africa for peacekeeping missions. They can seek it if they need support or if the UN is deploying troops. Now I'm open to be corrected by people who know better. I'm simply stating my opinion Countries have deployed troops into neighboring countriesmany times without some darn UNSC authorization . And once again, read comments properly before jumping into it. did i ever mentioned anything about the AU deploying troops? why even bother with this guy. AU is to support the actions ecowas would take. and if Ecowas states including chad agrees, france can't stop it. its all diplomacy. you think france would go to war with West Africa over chad? it's all about optics, and it won't be good for france. Especially if the idea of ecowas being there is to help stabilize chad. Why would france say no to that. Did Saudi Arabia got authorization from UNSC before going into Yemen? not sure. and can't find info that they did jpphilips: 1 Like |
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