Romanoff:


How does our belief affect you?

You haven't denied the charity works that I mentioned above. So it goes to show you've got nothing to say I'm that regard.

So uncle, after I listed all Christians do, what is your own contribution to society?

We are waiting patiently.

Your belief is affecting me because it’s a recipe for underdevelopment and ridiculous form of reasoning.

What charity work? Lol
You use 16billion to build your useless churches and give 2million to charity. Christians don’t train walahi

FatherOfJesus:
Your belief is affecting me because it’s a recipe for underdevelopment and ridiculous form of reasoning.

What charity work? Lol
You use 16billion to build your useless churches and give 2million to charity. Christians don’t train walahi

How much do you give to charity, how have you contributed to the society?

You are yet to answer these questions.

Romanoff:
You obviously don't know who Christians are. Ally of people parade themselves as Christians but you should research who a Christian is.

Start with a Google search of what the word "Christian" means.

About the prayers that are not answered, if not for the prayers of Christians, I wonder how worse the situation of his country would be.

Just like God said in the book of Genesis when he was about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham's bargaining chip with God is, "what if you find so so so so and so number of godly people there, would you still destroy the city"?

You should equip yourself with knowledge about a subject matter before you come with criticism.

Just cause someone goes to church or tells you they are Christians doesn't mean they are.

The Bible says "By their fruits, you shall know them".

Peace.

@ the bolded:
Do you really believe that or you just want to defend "your" religion?

Romanoff:


How much do you give to charity, how have you contributed to the society?

You are yet to answer these questions.

How does that refute whatever I posted?

Giving to charity is not the only way to make a change in the society.

Are you ok?

amrichy:

@ the bolded:
Do you really believe that or you just want to defend "your" religion?

As an interferance to her answer and your query here, the correct answer is, there was a Time when the Prayers of the True Children of God altered the course of this nation eg, Pre-1999 military dictators, but ALL THAT IS GONE FOR, NOW.

True Christians are not praying for this country, For We Know and understand What is happening, why it is happening and why these things Must Happen!

So, No we do not pray for this country, We Are rather Praying that The Lord God of heaven and earth should come Soon and Speedily to Give Judgements and to carry out His Plan!

FatherOfJesus:
How does that refute whatever I posted?

Giving to charity is not the only way to make a change in the society.

Are you ok?

Like I said the other day, the best way to defend the Bible is to accuse people of neither reading nor understanding it.
Then,deny you are defending the Bible and start calling people trolls.
That is how budaatum does it.
Budaatum accuses people of what budaatum doesn't want to be accused of.



*Spits*

Romanoff:


How much do you give to charity, how have you contributed to the society?

You are yet to answer these questions.

Life is absurd.

There's no God that can change that.

If the insufficient leftovers that some members of your church give to wretched people is the reason why you are proud of your God,then there's no reason why I should be happy with your God.


In other words, I want you to inform Jesus that I am not happy with him.


You guys keep saying God can do whatever he wants because he is God.

Look!
Repeating Bible verses won't change anything!



I am fed up with certain things!!!!!!!!!!

FatherOfJesus:

Finally there’s no reason to become a Christian, it’s a scam just like any other religion

There's 1 Reason, You Really Do Not Want To Live in Eternal Pain and Suffering at the Full Discretion of Your Creator like a phone kept alive on a gas cooker in a non stick pan, melting forever but never and Cursed to live in that Condition.

And finally, all the others things you said directing them to Christians missed their mark, for a Christian is none of those things, rather you are describing those who are Truly your brothers but they are applying for Christianship, but they have not been approved yet!

FatherOfJesus:
How does that refute whatever I posted?

Giving to charity is not the only way to make a change in the society.

Are you ok?

You still never answer me.

FatherOfJesus:
Because you don’t know what the definition of evidence is. Whatever you said is your opinion and cannot be tested under any standardize method

shall a pencil test you or shall your phone put you in a lab?

Creations can not Test their Creators, that's the Proof and Evidence we have given you and you could test it, TEST OF WHICH IS EVEN VERY EASY FOR ANY TO DO IN ANY PLACE OR AT ANY TIME, BUT THE RESULT IS THE SAME AND IRREFUTABLE!

Romanoff:


You still never answer me.

I no come here come answer your questions.

FatherOfJesus:
I no come here come answer your questions.

Lol.
Issokay.

FatherOfJesus:

1. They are hypocrites. They hide under “the grace” to perpetrate all sort of bad things. They fornicate, kill and commit every sin their bible preaches against. Still they want you to come join them in their hypocrisy. Being a Christian is not a guarantee that you are a better person. Christians especially in Nigeria do not live that lifestyle you can emulate.

Sin is part of our nature that's why you can never find a human being without sin. Christianity is God's program to help sinners come to repentance (readjust their ways and put off the old personality) but Satan quickly initiated his own agents who are also claiming Christians so it's difficult to identify Jesus' group out of numerous imitations!

2. Their prayers don’t work, I have 4 Redeemed churches in my street, that has not changed anything since they came. Since 1960, the prayers of Christians for the country has had virtually no impact. The poverty rate is increasing, unemployment, killing and instability yet we have millions of churches praying for the country. Jokers

This is what misinformed Churchgoers do, real Christians must not pray for/with you if you're not ready to live by Jesus' counsel, Jesus never prayed for the nation of Israel as a whole he only engage those who are prepared to accept his teachings {John 17:8-9} when i first told my uncle that i'm now one of Jehovah's Witnesses his first remark was "i keep wondering the mission of that Church because while others are praying for things to be better they keep telling us that thing will continue to get worse and it has been so"

3. Their pastors are scammers. They want to be like Jesus but never want to live the humble life of Jesus as demostrated in the Bible. They are so worried about money and wealth damn!
They cherrypick bible verse to favour their selfish quests and deceive their sheep into believing them. They are always after money while poor people hover in and around their churches.
They collect money from political leaders and endorse them. It’s just money, money and money

Real Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) don't preach prosperity, in fact they don't encourage members to engage in careers that will make them too conscious of money, just like their Master Lord and King (Jesus Christ) they teach members to live simple lives! Matthew 6:25-34
So instead of pursuing riches with all our time we set apart ample times to spend preaching and teaching our neighbours the good news of God's Kingdom!

4. Christians also do not read and understand their bible. Most times its shocking to me when I quote bible verses to Christians and they seem not to know anything about it. They just listen to what pastors say a lot of times and those verses cherrypicked by their pastors. A good number of Christians (though not all) are not readers. They just listen to their daddy’s blindly. They always don’t wanna tell themselves the truth. Finally there’s no reason to become a Christian, it’s a scam just like any other religion

This shows that you never seen true Christians in action, most people across the globe can testify to the fact by saying "if all religionsts are Jehovah's Witnesses, the world will become peaceful because people won't go to war due to Racism or Politics"

Jashub:
] Baseless claims with no facts attached. Most of the great scientific discoveries were made by Christians not atheist. The moral standards you foolishly say you have were created by Christians of which you shamelessly stole from which out acknowledging. Some would call it moral-plagiarism.

People were practicing various forms of morality way before even 1 book of your bible was written. Stop kidding yourself that Christianity is the source of all morality, that's pure bunkum.

LordReed:

People were practicing various forms of morality way before even 1 book of your bible was written. Stop kidding yourself that Christianity is the source of all morality, that's pure bunkum.

God is The Source of All That is Right and Good (Morality) as Evidenced and Irrefutably Proven by His Laws and Commandments.

No Other Group or Society in the World had a collection of Laws as Good and Right and Perfect and Balanced as The Law of God!

No, not one, anywhere!

So, yes people were practicing morality before the Bible as Evidenced by Abel, Seth, Enoch Abimelech etc, but the highest and acceptable standard of conduct and morality comes From God and His Laws!

FatherOfJesus:
Because you don’t know what the definition of evidence is. Whatever you said is your opinion and cannot be tested under any standardize method

Standardized by who again? Your being oh?

LordReed:


People were practicing various forms of morality way before even 1 book of your bible was written. Stop kidding yourself that Christianity is the source of all morality, that's pure bunkum.

This is like saying people were living before the constitution or its amendment. It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible. The Bible remains the universal leveller, not a shaky conscience.

Image123:


Standardized by who again? Your being oh?

not by the church

Image123:



This is like saying people were living before the constitution or its amendment. It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible. The Bible remains the universal leveller, not a shaky conscience.

but people were living before the constitution.

Are you joker?
Abi you just want to sound ridiculous?

FatherOfJesus:
not by the church

Wrong answer.

FatherOfJesus:
but people were living before the constitution.

Are you joker?
Abi you just want to sound ridiculous?

The joke is on you for refusing to see "It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible." Better to leave the matter for your bros that was addressed.

Jashub:
Atheists believe we exist by accident ; that everything in the universe is a cosmcosmological mixing of random stuff that gave rise to an ordered universe. This style of reasoning is not only illogical, but it smells of complete stupidity

Athesim is simply the lack of belief in your sky fairy daddy and many sky daddies that have been created by men.
And if all atheists actually believe the world came by accident, isn't it more logical than the belief that a middle-aged white man, wearing robes, sitting on a throne in the cloud, surrounded by white men with feathers, created it?
See you talking about logic. Funny guy.

FatherOfJesus:
1. They are hypocrites. They hide under “the grace” to perpetrate all sort of bad things. They fornicate, kill and commit every sin their bible preaches against. Still they want you to come join them in their hypocrisy. Being a Christian is not a guarantee that you are a better person. Christians especially in Nigeria do not live that lifestyle you can emulate.

thank God you said they hide and commit every sin their Bible preach against.. , if you kill an innocent person you will face the law, people can hide to sin, some people are not true christians, some people are doing evil and hiding in the umbrella of Christianity but when your cup is full your days will be numbered.....

FatherOfJesus:

2. Their prayers don’t work, I have 4 Redeemed churches in my street, that has not changed anything since they came. Since 1960, the prayers of Christians for the country has had virtually no impact. The poverty rate is increasing, unemployment, killing and instability yet we have millions of churches praying for the country. Jokers

how can a Muslim man who supports evil and terrorist be in the governmebt and you expect prayers to work, call evil, evil. be truthful to yourself is Nigerian government doing the right thing and what's their religion..

FatherOfJesus:

3. Their pastors are scammers. They want to be like Jesus but never want to live the humble life of Jesus as demostrated in the Bible. They are so worried about money and wealth damn!
They cherrypick bible verse to favour their selfish quests and deceive their sheep into believing them. They are always after money while poor people hover in and around their churches.
They collect money from political leaders and endorse them. It’s just money, money and money.

on this one i don't support any pastors and I won't talk against them, after a pastor prayed for someone and he or she get healed, the person may come back to thank God for the miracles, some people may even bless the life of the pastor because of the healing prayer the pastor prayed for them..

FatherOfJesus:

4. Christians also do not read and understand their bible. Most times its shocking to me when I quote bible verses to Christians and they seem not to know anything about it. They just listen to what pastors say a lot of times and those verses cherrypicked by their pastors. A good number of Christians (though not all) are not readers. They just listen to their daddy’s blindly. They always don’t wanna tell themselves the truth.

some people only quote a verse in the Bible suitable for their argument and not reading the whole chapter, and not all christians knows Bible..

FatherOfJesus:

Finally there’s no reason to become a Christian, it’s a scam just like any other religion

that's religion for you, you can't like everything.
the truth is that you hate Christianity and christians but it doesn't change anything.......

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This is like saying people were living before the constitution or its amendment. It's perfectly fine and acknowledged in the Bible. The Bible remains the universal leveller, not a shaky conscience.

Who is talking about conscience? There were collections of laws written and codified well before 1 book of the Bible was written.

Dtruthspeaker:


God is The Source of All That is Right and Good (Morality) as Evidenced and Irrefutably Proven by His Laws and Commandments.

No Other Group or Society in the World had a collection of Laws as Good and Right and Perfect and Balanced as The Law of God!

No, not one, anywhere!

So, yes people were practicing morality before the Bible as Evidenced by Abel, Seth, Enoch Abimelech etc, but the highest and acceptable standard of conduct and morality comes From God and His Laws!

The Sumerians and Egyptians had their laws written down well before you favourite book of mythologies was.

LordReed:

The Sumerians and Egyptians had their laws written down well before you favourite book of mythologies was.

Yes, they Wrote Down their Laws before most nations were formed as reported, But They Are Not The Source, Creators Or Originators Of Moality (Law) for No Man made them, which is what we are saying.

The Creator Whom we call God, made Law (Morality) and The Law, made the man.

Therefore, Law (Morality) was already established on the earth even before man or the Sumerians or the Egyptians came to be.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes, they Wrote Down their Laws before most nations were formed as reported, But They Are Not The Source, Creators Or Originators Of Moality (Law) for No Man made them, which is what we are saying.

The Creator Whom we call God, made Law (Morality) and The Law, made the man.

Therefore, Law (Morality) was already established on the earth even before man or the Sumerians or the Egyptians came to be.

You guess so from your favourite book of mythology. Got it.

LordReed:

You guess so from your favourite book of mythology. Got it.

Not a guess Rather, it is ALSO SEEN and Proven, which is why you are not able to Offer any Reasonable Counter, for there is None!

And not Just the Bible alone, But The Law (Morality) Books, Philosophy Books, History Books, Sociology books Also Absolutely Show and Prove The Truth of this Fact.

LordReed:


Who is talking about conscience? There were collections of laws written and codified well before 1 book of the Bible was written.

i am talking about conscience, collection of laws were/are based on the conscience of the lawmakers. This is why laws on the same issue keeps getting amended.

Image123:


Wrong answer.

Christians never give right answers

Dtruthspeaker:


Not a guess Rather, it is ALSO SEEN and Proven, which is why you are not able to Offer any Reasonable Counter, for there is None!

And not Just the Bible alone, But The Law (Morality) Books, Philosophy Books, History Books, Sociology books Also Absolutely Show and Prove The Truth of this Fact.

You didn't offer a reasonable counter in the first place, only a fevered imagination based on your favourite book of mythology. I can claim any old imaginary being did whatever, there's no way to substantiate any such claim.

LordReed:


You didn't offer a reasonable counter in the first place, only a fevered imagination based on your favourite book of mythology. I can claim any old imaginary being did whatever, there's no way to substantiate any such claim.

Why do you waste a lot of efforts arguing with The Dtruthspeaker?
That dude reasons like he’s a primary 2 pupil