MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

And you think that should be in a sane country??

Is the fact that Master's Degree Holders are doing lowly security work something that a Nigerian youth should celebrate?

In any case, no evidence the applicant desperately needed any job, and i appreciate the way he handled it!

The HR should have crafted the response carefully. That response was demeaning.

What is wrong with saying :

1. Due to lack of experience/exposure in the position you applied for, we invite you to try reapply for the role of xyz to be gain knowledge bla bla bla

Or

2. This is the position that is currently open and available to be filled in our organisation if you are interested in it

Or

3.

Biglittlelois:
Your friend is very arrogant and full of him/herself, imagine saying administrative assistant is demeaning cos he has MSc. Why can't he politely decline the Job? Even said " if you know me", imagine, e nor suppose dey look for job na, since e be dangote pikin,

Pride smh.

Lol, na normal Nigerian day to day slangs!

Do you know who i am? Do you know who you are talking to? Do you know this, do you know that!

The guy exhibit pride in him, and he sounds so arrogance with no any iota of emotional intelligence

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

HR that cannot even spell is 'very trained'...you be mugu

Since you're obviously an illiterate, when next you apply to the post of gateman and the 'very trained' HR mistakenly asks you to be the cleaner, you mustn't complain, since na you be Mr. Humble

MejiLoyon:

I understand. But what is wrong in " I didn't apply for that. I'm not interested" finish. I hope you get where I'm going to? It costs nothing bro. Even if he was with a very high paying job. Humility matters. I know a person heading a hotel. The cook had msc and no one knew until managerial position opened up. Guess what...she earns times two more than the previous manager. The humility startled the owner. There is a thin line between knowing your self worth and pride....

Humility can be a two way traffic you know. So an applicant should be humble but a HR officer who should be the bearer of the company's corporate image can talk to people anyhow an even hang up on them? Na wa for you o! Don't allow people to be treating you anyhow o! Low self esteem isn't humility.

VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

It is VERY SICK and HIGHLY UNPROFESSIONAL to invite someone for a job way below what they applied for and still justify it when it was pointed out.

As a boss who wants the best hands, that HR manager will be sacked or seriously demoted!

You hold the CEO number yet dem downgrade you lmaooo

hakeem4:
so because you are looking for job, you should be disrespected and given another position which is lower than your qualifications

its just like a supplicant serf kneeling before a filled tempered monarch. once the company sees you are desperate for the job, they would treat you like trash

No doubt the HR is unprofessional

The applicant lacks emotional intelligence!

VTJN:
Lol, na normal Nigerian day to day slangs!

Do you know who i am? Do you know who you are talking to? Do you know this, do you know that!

The guy exhibit pride in him, and he sounds so arrogance with no any iota of emotional intelligence

Normal Nigerian attitude is what I see you exhibiting! Swallowing disrespect with a glass of wine. Nobody should disrespect you because they are offering you a job. Remember, they will never hire you out of love or pity. They will only pick you when they are sure they will gain from you so have some sef esteem. Taking insults from people anyhow ain't humility.

tell your friend he's is not serious and is in over his head. The HR officer did nothing wrong if hes that good he should know he's worth and not be upset they gave him a lower position.

Ishilove:

So you cannot pass across a message without being insulting??

I've seen worse... one parley said he schooled in the US and shouldn't be subjected to such rigorous processes in the name of interviews, I ask am if e fit perform surgery without light, the boy change am for me... na small remain I wan tear tear him face with slap but I kept smiling and saying we'll get back to him

zynzyn:


And you think that should be in a sane country??

Is the fact that Master's Degree Holders are doing lowly security work something that a Nigerian youth should celebrate?

In any case, no evidence the applicant desperately needed any job, and i appreciate the way he handled it!

Abeg tell them. I am disappointed in Nigerian youth. Just reading the comments here will tell you why our leaders treat us the way they do. They know we will take it!

laluski:
He even put "God bless you" at the end.
You would have called his company and forwarded this convo.you messed up...
Hr guys are demons
Trust me
Am an HR consultant

So you're a demon I suppose

pixey:

Emotional intelligence is bullshit ! These are tools and tricks fraudulent companies use to deceive their employees of their benefit.
Read the message well! The HR is the egoistic one.

if the HR is egoistic, then what adjective do you want to use for the applicant?

Or you're indirectly saying the applicant is good to go with such kinda response?

Nbotee:


Oga wen U know ur worth and value den U won't tale nonsense from people. For someone who was already doing a high paying job and U expect him to clap for the HR officer for telling him he's only fit for an entry level position? Wen u don't attach any value to urself U'll appreciate every and any nonsense dats thrown ur way.

If your friend is doing a high-paying job, so why then is he still looking for another job? I work as a HR, and I will tell you that fellow has done nothing wrong, the problem here lies with you and your friend, your ego is higher than yourself. The HR must have Considered one or two information's on your friend CV before finding him fit for the position irrespective of his M.Sc. If not arrogance, your friend could just easily say "I can't take up that role, or I'm not a perfect fit for that role, can you consider me for this role or that" But with your arrogance, since he has M.Sc, he should have been offered the position of the CEO, or the HR should have fried egg for him because he holds M.Sc. They are people that even have doctor degree, you and your friend should lower your sholders and embrace the humility you demand for from that HR.

Someone7:


People dey Carey PhD from foreign university come do internship. What is common MSc. This kind of pride and arrogance is surely to get the fellow on a highway to NOWHERE.

That is their business! This MSC holder knows his worth. Go and continue chopping insult from people thinking it's humility.

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

you didn't read the post before commenting. The guy has a decent job but he just want to change job.

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

this one na mumu basking in the euphoria of social media limelight.

Admin assistant is a bsc position. But even at that, the man applied for another job and should be given it or politely ask if he will like to be an admin. assistant.

Don't let the job scarcity on Nigeria make you lose your sense of judgment.

NairaMaster1:


Go back and read the post. He's already on a high profile job.

Secondly, we must develop as a nation.

Why is it that you don't get what you apply for in Nigeria?

From university to labour market.

The company advertised and he applied and you said he suit admin assistant. Do you even know who's an admin assistant?

They guy has a high self esteem and that is good. He has developed himself above that low level admin assistant and that is very good.

Advice: go back and read the post. HE'S NOT JOBLESS that's he said if you know me you won't say that.

the HR is unprofessional no doubt

The applicant is also wrong

Good he knows his worth, but that is not the way to portray your worth

You don't verbally showcase your worth!

GreaterFuture3:

MSc holder Security Guard? Cook?

Are you not in Nigeria where PhD holders are vying for federal government 30k job?

I believe the applicant should have all of his details in his CV especially the WORK EXPERIENCE and POSITION held..
If the position applied for is related to his previous experience why downgrade him?
But if it's not related, then the HR can offer a lesser position BUT he/she should give reason(s) afterward...
This will clearly show that you understand his worth/current position, but you made that decision because of another factor...

victorVIC1:
Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

Your friend is just so full of himself. The screenshot simply proves that your friend is very arrogant and has no clue of how to communicate professionally.

Absolutely, i quite understand the applicant considering his worth

Nevertheless, he wasn't taught how to communicate professionally

He lacks emotional intelligence seriously

Imagine the kinda response on phone, what if they are physical? that means he's capable of hitting the HR or perhaps insult the living day light out of him

It is well!

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

That is their business! This MSC holder knows his worth. Go and continue chopping insult from people thinking it's humility.

Don't worry about me. Humility inspite of your qualifications pays. I'm laughing the way to the bank every month on my job. Mr "I kNoW mY WoRTh" on the other hand. He got exactly what he deserved. NOTHING!

GodWrites:
The fact is, people are gonna judge this situation base on their perceptive. If we are to be objective, you'll see that both parties are wrong.

While the HR needs to work on his professionalism, the chest beater also have to work on his emotional intelligence.

He's too egoistic for my liking...

U have won a free beer

NarcoPolo:


HR that cannot even spell is 'very trained'...you be mugu

Since you're obviously an illiterate, when next you apply to the post of gateman and the 'very trained' HR mistakenly asks you to be the cleaner, you mustn't complain, since na you be Mr. Humble

you got it all wrong

He never said it's wrong for him to decline the offer

He meant his response exhibit pride

To me he lacks emotional intelligence!

If truly he knows his worth then he has no business verbally showcasing his acclaimed worth

He should have politely decline the offer and leave!

KingTom:

I've seen worse... one parley said he schooled in the US and shouldn't be subjected to such rigorous processes in the name of interviews, I ask am if e fit perform surgery without light, the boy change am for me... na small remain I wan tear tear him face with slap but I kept smiling and saying we'll get back to him

Leave am. E don chop belleful.

Someone7:
Your friend is rude, arrogant and entitled. He should be thankful he was even invited for an interview in THIS economy. He can't even write a formal note or communicate professionally. Which one is "I'm confused". All because of MSc in Health Economics.

Some of us went for MSc a top unis in the UK. The certificate is great and all but you still need the experience. When we came back I still came and did internships of N7,500, 15,000 and even 93k. I got enough experience to start earning even more. My last job was 450k and I've left for something much better.

Drop that pride and don't take every feedback as an "insult" or "spite". Too many people are begging to get "offended" these days. NO one wants such a toxic person in their company. The organization reserves the right to change the position you applied for. He didn't want it, he should have simply said no thanks and moved on.

To be truthful,nobody asked you all these naw.
Nigerians have a weird knack of trying to tackle other people's achievements by comparing with theirs. He already rejected the job because he knows his worth. His regular paying job could be much higher than your last 450k. He simply didn't want anything less and told the HR off for being insulting. How is that hard for you to understand?
What's humility and toxicity in what he said? What's your UK MSc to do with it? Should everyone now do 7.5k internships like you or what?

N.B: I blame both the HR and the applicant. I just had to call your bluff on putting your life out here to tackle him

KingTom:

I've seen worse... one parley said he schooled in the US and shouldn't be subjected to such rigorous processes in the name of interviews, I ask am if e fit perform surgery without light, the boy change am for me... na small remain I wan tear tear him face with slap but I kept smiling and saying we'll get back to him

This very applicant with his response to the HR, he's capable of hitting the HR had it been it was physical

My take.
From a professional angle. Health economics is part of health administration and this transcends that the HR does not know his job. Having an MSc in this area should not even be considered for nothing less than an administrative officer.

If your friend feels insulted why can't he create his own Firm, what's the MSc for ?

luminouz:

To be truthful,nobody asked you all these naw.
Nigerians have a weird knack of trying to tackle other people's achievements by comparing with theirs. He already rejected the job because he knows his worth. His regular paying job could be much higher than your last 450k. He simply didn't want anything less and told the HR off for being insulting. How is that hard for you to understand?
What's humility and toxicity in what he said? Should everyone now do 7.5k internships like you or what?

No made you a comment police sir. If you knew how job positions worked, you'd know Intern is even lower than an Assistant. That's the point I was trying to make. You can reject an offer without being all "don't you know I have MSc". What is MSc? People have multiple and are still level headed. The organisation had the right to offer him the position they saw fit. He had the right to reject it. Which one is insulting . How hard is it to understand?

optimistic0001:



If your friend is doing a high-paying job, so why then is he still looking for another job? I work as a HR, and I will tell you that fellow has done nothing wrong, the problem here lies with you and your friend, your ego is higher than yourself. The HR must have Considered one or two information's on your friend CV before finding him fit for the position irrespective of his M.Sc. If not arrogance, your friend could just easily say "I can't take up that role, or I'm not a perfect fit for that role, can you consider me for this role or that" But with your arrogance, since he has M.Sc, he should have been offered the position of the CEO, or the HR should have fried egg for him because he holds M.Sc. They are people that even have doctor degree, you and your friend should lower your sholders and embrace the humility you demand for from that HR.

Don't defend HR cuz you are one. That's Nigerian sentimentalism at work. Applicant and HR are both wrong