Nigerian PHD holder drops their PHD abroad and do odd jobs. Some do care jobs and other do delivery men.

MSC in health economics na just paper, not much use in a hospital to be fair. Maybe some use in public health and medical statistic type job.

Someone7:


No made you a comment police sir. If you knew how job positions worked, you'd know Intern is even lower than an Assistant. That's the point I was trying to make. You can reject an offer without being all "don't you know I have MSc". What is MSc? People have multiple and are still level headed. The organisation had the right to offer him the position they saw fit. He had the right to reject it. Which one is insulting . How hard is it to understand?

I said you can make your comment without telling us you schooled in the UK or you started lower than him. You don't know the applicant or his achievements. No need trying to make him look he is the demon and you are the Saint or you got better stats than him. He is HE and you are YOU.

My last reply

luminouz:

I said you can make your comment without telling us you schooled in the UK or you started lower than him. You don't know the applicant or his achievements. No need trying to make him look he is the demon and you are the Saint or you got better stats than him. He is HE and you are YOU.

My last reply

If you read just to react rather than understand then you can move on sir. Your problem

VTJN:
if the HR is egoistic, then what adjective do you want to use for the applicant?

Or you're indirectly saying the applicant is good to go with such kinda response?

Be honest with me if you were a distinguished professor or an experienced job seeker like op friend. Will you tolerate this nonsense and I think he deserves such response. He/She clearly disrespected the OP friend if you read between lines. Forget the polite reply.

luminouz:

I said you can make your comment without telling us you schooled in the UK or you started lower than him. You don't know the applicant or his achievements. No need trying to make him look he is the demon and you are the Saint or you got better stats than him. He is HE and you are YOU.

My last reply

You sound pained or triggered cos he typed his achievements why?

He was actually trying to use himself as an example, how can't you see that?

VTJN:
No doubt the HR is unprofessional

The applicant lacks emotional intelligence!

Who emotional intelligence help?? Cut that bullshit! It's another name for low self esteem.

Na so one call me one day..
Hello, what did u graduate with, 2:1, or 2:2..
I was like please who is this,
He said u applied for the post of a production officer....
Is it 2:1 or 2:2..
No introduction, nd so rude
I just hanged the call

Cocao:


When you don't know your worth every Harry and Tom will throw anything at you and you'll accept it

hungry never catch you, people like you go travel out na pride go still kill ona

MejiLoyon:

I understand. But what is wrong in " I didn't apply for that. I'm not interested" finish. I hope you get where I'm going to? It costs nothing bro. Even if he was with a very high paying job. Humility matters. I know a person heading a hotel. The cook had msc and no one knew until managerial position opened up. Guess what...she earns times two more than the previous manager. The humility startled the owner. There is a thin line between knowing your self worth and pride....

User still not getting the point. If u accept a job u act accordingly to ur job description even if u are over qualified bt that doesn’t mean a trained hr personnel shouldn’t know how to speak to people in their capacity.

I don’t know the post the guy applied for bt if sm1 applied for gm or senior manager position in a company and u tell him he’s best suited for administrative assistant I think u need to have u head checked. There are mistakes u don’t make in addressing people in the corporate world.

This is not lagbaja and co enterprises nig ltd.

The man complained rightfully and if he followed ur own way he’s just pretending to be less or meek bt within he is highly insulted. Not everyone is desperately seeking for a job and a hr personnel should have this at the back of their heads. Some People know what they applied for so ur choice of words matters alot.

The hr obviously doesn’t know his work. Best suited for. Smh.

VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

worth or no worth that guy is proud simple if the hr make mistake but you wan proof say you get craze for head mumu people full this coin3,if the hr has pride then you are fucking worst too

Biglittlelois:



You sound pained or triggered cos he typed his achievements why?

He was actually trying to use himself as an example, how can't you see that?

I'm real and raw and very much unencumbered with emotional baggage like others.

You don't know my own achievements,so what's the pain about? My point is actually very simple.

He used his UK MSc and 7.5k intern jobs as proof that he is what, humble? That's really not the way to go. Because he assumed the applicant had MSc in Nigeria or his current paying job is less than 450k. That in itself is why I called him out. There is no need to tell the world all that,when you don't know OP's friends achievements or personallity, up close.

What would have sufficed is to just tell OP, he went through internships before getting to his current level in life, despite having the same qualifications. Saying OP's friend is rude bla bla bla, then quoting his life stats,as proof of his humble nature is a bit weird to me.

I noticed this trend on NL and it worries me. You don't need to react to any topic while sounding off about your personal achievements,while denigrating others. There are smallies here,that I personally know with double PhDs and you would never know.

My point is both OP and the applicant are wrong

Daddy46:
hungry never catch you, people like you go travel out na pride go still kill ona

Okay.

Nbotee:


Oga wen U know ur worth and value den U won't tale nonsense from people. For someone who was already doing a high paying job and U expect him to clap for the HR officer for telling him he's only fit for an entry level position? Wen u don't attach any value to urself U'll appreciate every and any nonsense dats thrown ur way.

Una too dey show una self for naija.
My coordinator for my former company, HP, when the company relocate, she went into pharmaceutical industry and started as entry level. So make una stop all this talk

The responses are shocking.
I can only chalk it up to Stockholm syndrome. People have been treated so badly for so long that humiliation is considered professionalism.
The HR officer said that is what he was better suited for, that is condescending. He could have said that is what is available for now.
HR people are not gods and I say this an HR practitioner myself. You have to portray your company in the best possible light to jobseekers cos you never onow who might be on the other side of the desk some day.

If an Msc holders takes the job a school cert holder what job will there be for the school cert holders?
This is the case with most people in the civil service that have refused to retire. Not knowing that by staying on job longer than necessary they are blocking their own children from getting jobs the refused to retire from.

VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

Your friend is an amazing character. He actually showed the HR the boss phone number but got mad when given a position of an assistant. This does not sit well with counter-intuition - If he had the number of the boss, and as a big man that he claims to be, why didnt he just call the boss and peach for the job?

Again, do not blame me, it is just that I am not used to the mindset of the Time Merchants, aka Employees and Applicants. I had expected to hear that they argued about pay. I know that cleaners in some companies earn better than management staff of another firm, so I supposed if the position of an assistant pays more, he would have swallowed his pride and take the job, just for the coins. Time sellers are too proud these days.

I really do not care about degree. With your degree you could be better in Cleaning Department than Management, and I will still fire you at cleaning if you do not mob well.

Degree is nothing, what you do with the knowledge is what matters.

VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

Iyaf do man. Na una type go enter U.K dey wash plate for 8 pounds per hour. Yet that is not demeaning. But for naija hear you would be attacking someone offering you a job. The last time Dangote was looking for drivers nation wide. 6 Phd holders applied for that role.

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

The level of pride the guy exhibited is out of this world. The HR felt he was more suited to a junior role and was kind enough to inform him all for him to start throwing tantrums.

Rickbronz:
hmmm

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Good morning, I am interested.

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VickypediaPHC:
The precarious situation of job opportunities in Nigeria has made many Human Resource Personnels, downgrade, demean and continuously discredit Nigerian graduates. A lot of HR officers were once job seekers before they were given an opportunity but they turn out to see themselves as demi-gods over time.
HR Officer's attitude towards job seekers portrays their organization's corporate image but most of them fail to draw the line and conduct themselves in a manner worthy of such positions. Some job-seekers are terrible though but they still deserve some respect.
Here is a friend's experience who applied for a top position in an organization that is in the Health Sector but was invited for the post of an administrative assistant even though he has an M.Sc in Health Economics and is doing a high-paying job at present. The HR officer even ended the call on my friend when he called for clarifications. My friend almost petitioned the HR officer to his organization for disrespect & lack of professionalism but decided not to do so after the HR guy apologized.
I chose not to reveal the organization and HR officers identity for certain reasons. This is a screen shot of their conversation and it happened in FCT Abuja

Nairalanders, What's your take on this?
Lala, please move to front page so others can learn.

Healthcare international(HCI)

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
That is their business! This MSC holder knows his worth. Go and continue chopping insult from people thinking it's humility.

grandeoj09:
Troubled with poverty , learn to know your values.

Nbotee:
Oga wen U know ur worth and value den U won't tale nonsense from people. For someone who was already doing a high paying job and U expect him to clap for the HR officer for telling him he's only fit for an entry level position? Wen u don't attach any value to urself U'll appreciate every and any nonsense dats thrown ur way.

More empty PRIDE than self-worth...

Self-worth is simply declining the offer...
PRIDE is the Nigerian “do you know who I am?”

PRIDE assuredly comes before a FALL!
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ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Abeg tell them. I am disappointed in Nigerian youth. Just reading the comments here will tell you why our leaders treat us the way they do. They know will take it!

pixey:
Some comments here are just very surprising. Imagine that silly HR applied for a position of his field and was given a junior position without a call to accept or reject.He asked that it's was not the position he applied for and they told him " That is correct! We felt this is the best position for you."Do you think he would humble? .That move was a dirty tactic and the OP's friend understands this. Msc or Bsc or whatever. It is very unprofessional.

Johnsghana:
The responses are shocking.
I can only chalk it up to Stockholm syndrome. People have been treated so badly for so long that humiliation is considered professionalism.
The HR officer said that is what he was better suited for, that is condescending. He could have said that is what is available for now.
HR people are not gods and I say this an HR practitioner myself. You have to portray your company in the best possible light to jobseekers cos you never onow who might be on the other side of the desk some day.

If an Msc holders takes the job a school cert holder what job will there be for the school cert holders?
This is the case with most people in the civil service that have refused to retire. Not knowing that by staying on job longer than necessary they are blocking their own children from getting jobs the refused to retire from.

I don’t know these folks from a can of beans (and presumably neither do you), but...

That dude has an MSc degree does not necessarily mean that he has commensurate professional experience.
Accordingly, HR, having looked at his actual working EXPERIENCE, may rightly think him better suited for the proffered role.

If he disagrees, he’s free to amicably keep it moving. It’s not by force!
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Bluffly:
My take.
From a professional angle. Health economics is part of health administration and this transcends that the HR does not know his job. Having an MSc in this area should not even be considered for nothing less than an administrative officer.

What is his actual professional WORKING experience?
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This one will spend eternity in the job market with that kind of attitude.

The HR officer said with your CV you are better suited for that position in THEIR organization, you are arguing "do you know who I am" crap. Ode.

Since you are a big man in the society, go and employ yourself now, why are you writing "I beg to apply" application letters upandan.

grandeoj09:
Troubled with poverty , learn to know your values.

What yeye value are you talking about?

Take that value and go and impact the world all by yourself then.

A company has set their own standards, y'all are ranting.

Lol.

Many years ago when I was in Dubai job hunting, you'd see crazy criteria like, you must have a British or American accent etc.

Are you going to fight them ni? Of course not, you move on. If he thinks he's too big for the position he should move on.

Barbara007:


Good morning, I am interested.

Kindly drop your whatsapp number I will chat you up. Tnx

Be careful. Don't be scammed.

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User still not getting the point. If u accept a job u act accordingly to ur job description even if u are over qualified bt that doesn’t mean a trained hr personnel shouldn’t know how to speak to people in their capacity.

The HR wasn't rude. S/he was professional to the core.

I don’t know the post the guy applied for bt if sm1 applied for gm or senior manager position in a company and u tell him he’s best suited for administrative assistant I think u need to have u head checked. There are mistakes u don’t make in addressing people in the corporate world.

Making assumptions about something you have no idea about and then getting mad about isn't right, don't you think?
1. You don't know what position the guy applied for.
2. The HR officer told the guy what his CV and work experience can get him in THEIR company, the simplest thing to do is to reject it without any drama. It is their company nad they have their standards for employing people there. If you feel cheated then you can write the company an official letter. Most people don't even know how many HR departments operate.

This is not lagbaja and co enterprises nig ltd.

The man complained rightfully and if he followed ur own way he’s just pretending to be less or meek bt within he is highly insulted. Not everyone is desperately seeking for a job and a hr personnel should have this at the back of their heads. Some People know what they applied for so ur choice of words matters alot.

The name of the company wasn't revealed, so I don't know how you know it isn't Lagbaja and co ltd.

The man was silly to complain the way he did. Typical Nigerian braggadocio, "do you know who I am?" crap. Whoever he is, he should take his hungry ass and go look for job elsewhere. His CV and work experience have been examined and screened and the HR dept has determined where he fit within THEIR organization.

If it's a big organization like you implied, you can be rest assured the HR officer who contacted him didn't make the decision. He probably has HR managers.

The hr obviously doesn’t know his work. Best suited for. Smh.

The HR was professional throughout from the write-up. If the man likes let him go nad complain to Buhari, the HR officer is just doing his job according to company policies.

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

I don't see it as pride, that many MSc holders are underemployed, doesn't mean all MSc holders are underemployed.

If you read the post very well, the OP mentioned that the applicant is currently working in a good position and well paid, he wants a higher position in this new organization.

If the HR went through the applicant's CV well, he shouldn't be invited for a much more lower position, it's demeaning.

It shows the HR doesn't pay attention to the details in applicants' CV, or just a rookie in the profession.

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

You are are very w0thles_guy with no self esteem. People like you are the reason HR personnels behave like demi-god

MejiLoyon:
Tell your friend to take that msc certificate and pour oil on it every morning. It will bring money and help him build large houses and buy big cars.

He is the proud one. And he will stay long looking for a job. That's pride and not self esteem. You are better suited at this job.....oh sorry I no do. Finish. Which one is if you know me. That HR is very trained and I commend the company. If na me ogbeni I go compose better swear give am and damn the consequences.

Aimoiye msc wey be cook for hotel. Some na security

sorry but the guy is working at the moment. Read the post again, he is actually doing very fine atm. The fact is these HRs are full of themselves and ill trained and mannered. The same applies to old employees, the way they show contempt and outrightly belittle new staff without thinking that maybe the new guy is coming from a place of great experience and the rest. We all need to work on our superiority mentality. Many security and gate men are also guilty of this.

Biglittlelois:
Your friend is very arrogant and full of him/herself, imagine saying administrative assistant is demeaning cos he has MSc. Why can't he politely decline the Job? Even said " if you know me", imagine, e nor suppose dey look for job na, since e be dangote pikin,

Pride smh.

no pride about this. I feel so bad for us all in this country because lack of opportunities have turned alot of us into stooges. This man knows his worth and he isnt desperate. He has the boost for this because he is currently employed, simple.
If you have ever applied for a job and currently well engaged at the moment of application, my brother you will not take nonsense from any HR.

Biglittlelois:



He can also jump and pass if he doesnt want the job, or politely decline and keep looking for his worth, very simple.

this kind of mentality is what makes these recruitment guys treat people like shit. The HR guy is clearly in the wrong an he needs to be cleared about it.

You know what they say, evil men are able to go unscathed with evil deeds because the good men see it and do nothing about it. And this kind of arrangement makes one worse than the original perpetrator of the act. Just saying.