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Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by SouthSouth1914: 9:21am On May 09, 2021 |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by SouthSouth1914: 9:24am On May 09, 2021 |
Nephilim: Matthew 4:8- And the devil carried Jesus Christ to a high mountain and showed him the glories/beauties of the world and said he’d give the beauties of the workd to Jesus if he would bow down and worship him. What authority gave the devil to make this statement? 2 Likes |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Odunolumide(m): 9:24am On May 09, 2021 |
You conveniently left 1John5:19 and Ephesians 2:2 |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GENES11S: 9:26am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo: The devil is a very crafty spirit. He is not much of a lier as you guys claimed. He is labeled a lier because he decieve people. When he said if Eve eat the forbidden fruit her eyes will be opened and he will be like God knowing good and bad. That wasn't a lie because the same thing happened after she ate the fruit. What the devil does was to decieve men by leaving out the important parts of a story. He only tell you the advantage and leave out the disadvantages. NOW BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC. "The kingdom of this world belong to the devil". What does this mean?: This mean the devil is the ruler of this world (this system of things). Even the Bible does not deny this..let's take a look at some Bible verse. John 14:30: I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. DID YOU THINK THAT IF GOD RULE THIS WORLD, THERE WOULD BE SO MUCH DEATHS AND SUFFERING?: NO. HOPE FOR CHILDREN OF GOD: The devil rule the world but the moment you give your life to Christ he no longer has any hold on you. James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Satan cannot hurt a child of God, but they can be tempted. Satan needs God permission in order to harm any of his children (read the story of Job). In summary, is devil a liar? Yes. Did he actually lie when he said he own the kingdoms of this world? NO. With God help, it is easier to overcome the devil when you know he is a deciever. As for lieing, the devil rarely lies. And would decieve people without even lieing. 3 Likes |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Dallat65: 9:28am On May 09, 2021 |
This scripture is explanatory enough. 1John 5: 19 New International Version We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. Also, at Matthew 13: 19, Satan is also referred to as the wicked one. 4 Likes |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by elganzar(m): 9:28am On May 09, 2021 |
I think __when God made man He gave him dominion over the earth... When man was deceived(sinned) and fell, the dominion was transferred to man's new master (Lord over sinners (Devil) Hence Jesus came (as a man), died in place of man (wages of sin is death)_ and took over the authority from the Devil... So as at then, I feel they were indeed his (devil)_ probably why Jesus didn't dispute it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by michlins(m): 9:30am On May 09, 2021 |
But Jesus no correct him. Na you want correct him 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by icemania: 9:35am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo: This verse disagrees with you. 2 Corinthians 4:4 New Living Translation 4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PoliteActivist: 9:35am On May 09, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Questions: 1) why didn't God just not create the tree? 2) Did God know in advance they'd disobey Him? 3) If SPIRITUAL CONTROLS PHYSICAL! why is it that all the deeply spiritual countries are always defeated and ruled by physical countries? Gigantic India with all her spiritism was defeated and colonized by small Britain with physical guns. Same Nigeria with all her juju. How come scientific countries are always more successful than spiritist ones, etc? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by GENES11S: 9:36am On May 09, 2021 |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by bayelsaowei(m): 9:38am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo: 1 John 5:19 1 John 5:19, NIV: "We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one." 1 John 5:19, ESV: "We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." 1 John 5:19, KJV: "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness." 1 John 5:19, NASB: "We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." 1 John 5:19, NLT: "We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one @OP the earlier you realize satan rules and controls the world the better for you..and may I help you understand that the world here does not signify the literal earth(land, air, water and the atmosphere)..the world here refers to wicked humans and its influence including its political, commercial and religious systems.. So satan does rule the world.. 2 Likes |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by deolumike(m): 9:39am On May 09, 2021 |
he had it until Jesus Christ came to defeat him and took back the kingdom and authority. Jesus paid the price by his crucifixion, death and resurrection. And He said all Authority in Heaven and on earth have been given to me. In one of Paul's epistle, it is written that Jesus having spoiled (disarmed, rendered powerless, plundered) principalities and powers, He made an open spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it. Give your life to Christ and the devil loses all dominion or authority over you. 2 Likes |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by babadee1(m): 9:43am On May 09, 2021 |
Everything that God gave to man, man has given to the devil, by choosing to obey the devil rather than God. Whatever you choose to obey you become a slave to (Rom. 6:16). That's why the Bible calls the devil "the god of this world" (2 Cor. 4:4). But in the end all the kingdoms of the world will be restored to the rightful man who is God's appointed heir Jesus Christ (Rev. 11:15). So no, it wasn't a lie at all. bingbagbo: |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by DavidAO(m): 9:43am On May 09, 2021 |
Has anyone seen that Adam is Satan? That the man is the mental man, the carnal man and the one in enmity with God? The first Adam is mental and the last Adam is spiritual, two different nature. You either be for Adam of the beginning or for last Adam the Christ of God. 1 Like |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by tegrianonigltd(m): 9:46am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo: Even your Bible tells you that satan told Jesus, now time and I will give you the whole world. Remember ? |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nascimento(m): 9:46am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo: Satan did not lie. 2 corinth 4:4 and Eph 16:11 show that he's the ruler of the world. God allowed Satan to rule. Satan challenged God's sovereignty or right to rule man back in Eden because of his selfish desires. He's been given a chance to show that he has the right to rule. But we all know he's failed woefully. Never has mankind been plunged into senseless misery and brutality. Satan knows he has a short period of time because his time is up. Shortly, he's be dashed to pieces. And between, Satan is not man. He's a powerful spirit creature. He's ruthless and targets anyone who put faith in God. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Nobody: 9:46am On May 09, 2021 |
i thought it become to man lol oh yh man is becoming the devil |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Adakintroy: 9:48am On May 09, 2021 |
All this will lead nowhere. But read your Bible well. God gave man full authority. But man lost it to Satan. This was why Christ came. To restore us to our righfull place. Even so a greater abode. When Christ was interogated he Christ explain clear that "my kingdom is not of this world". Or "i go to prepare a place for you, were I am, there you will be also. ..if it was not so, I would not have told you". All this are pointer to one truth. The renounciation of the world Glory in favour of something greater. Notice also he said to the rich young master, sell all you have give to the poor and come follow me and you will have treasures in heaven. We have a strong proclivity towards wordly gains. Hence many arguments to valify it. Notice that when Satan made to the claim Christ never opposed him. Rather kept his eyes focus on his father whom he is savant to. 1 Like |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Xpol: 9:49am On May 09, 2021 |
Satan didn’t lie, Jesus whom the sentence was directed to knows better than you, so he would have countered his claims if the statement was not true. If you look around you, around the world you’ll surely know Satan truly rules. XPOL IS HERE AGAIN |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PoshTraveler: 9:50am On May 09, 2021 |
satan and god are all scam. non exist |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PoshTraveler: 9:50am On May 09, 2021 |
Xpol:dont mind these idiots. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by CodeTemplar: 9:52am On May 09, 2021 |
bingbagbo:Learn to accept the same scripture you use to support your own belief. 1 Like |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by CodeTemplar: 9:54am On May 09, 2021 |
Adakintroy:Satan gives power to get unrighteous mammon and it comes with many sorrow. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by princetom1(m): 9:56am On May 09, 2021 |
To slap this op dey hungry me. Awon werey extremist, trying to turn everything in another direction, despite clear evidences as written in the scriptures |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by OBALOLA55(m): 9:57am On May 09, 2021 |
petra1:HE WAS REFERRING TO PROPHET MUHAMMAD |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by BrainSanitizer: 10:01am On May 09, 2021 |
There's no such creature as "Satan". The spirit of good and even both dwell in man. Man is the centre of God's creation just like the tree placed at the centre of the garden of Eden held the knowledge of good and evil. The tree held life and death. So does man. Give a man a knife and he'll use it to chop vegetables and prepare you a nice meal. Give a man a knife and he'll use it to stab his neighbour in the chest so that he can take over his wife. Was it the knife? Or the man? Have you ever had the power to do something and you know that you can do that thing? Did you allow this knowledge intoxicate you to the point of abusing your power? Learn from the story of the temptations of Jesus where he rebuked the demands of his flesh (Satan) and allowed the holy Spirit to operate in him. Some people beat their chest and say "yes! Now I've arrived! Who dares me gets it hotter than fire! I am now very rich and powerful!" This is self worship due to the knowledge of possessions. Jesus rebuked it strongly and so should we. If you understand the foregoing, you should get an understanding of the other two temptations of Jesus as it relates to the battle between Satan (the flesh) and God (the holy spirit). You have heard the saying "an idle mind is the devil's workshop". You know, as well as I do that the devil can not possibly enter someone's mind and get to use his tools to work of it were a creature. It's all in our thought. Bottom line... Beware of the angels you see at day... For at night, those same angels can become demons equipped to destroy. For light and darkness dwell in man. May the spirit of light always prevail over darkness as we trust in the unfailing grace of God through Jesus Christ. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by gratiaeo(m): 10:01am On May 09, 2021 |
A mortal man claiming that satan (a spiritual being) lied. |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by tunary(m): 10:05am On May 09, 2021 |
Everything is created by God and he alone owns it all 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Noblefreeman(m): 10:07am On May 09, 2021 |
How did he lie? Or are you saying Jesus was decided? Let me help you out, when Satan said the kingdom of the world were his, he didn't mean the literal world like the seas and mountains or even lands.No, he meant it figuratively. How do I mean?. The government, commercial institution, and religious organization are hes and thus do his bidding. Let me throw some light on this, let's use commercial system for example. If today I say I'm a queer,won't I succeed massively, now who is the person championing queer ideologies, is that not Satan. Let's say I want to be a politician, will I make it if I am not corrupt, who is the chief corrupt person, is it not Satan. That's the point, Satan runs the show, he's in charge. So yes he controls the world. 1john5:19 says it all, that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. Jehovah God owns the world in a literal sense, but Satan controls it, but just for a short time. Visit jw.org for more info 1 Like |
Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Upton: 10:13am On May 09, 2021 |
Ephesians 2:2 |
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