MaxInDHouse:

It wasn't a literal tree but freewill having to do with our dealings with our fellowman.
Adam and Eve fully understood that God has the power to set standards for them but they want to liberate themselves under such restraint and begin setting standards for their descendants. So instead of God's rule Adam and Eve wants to dominate their progenies as Gods! {Genesis 3:1-5} Satan realized this so he used their freewill that has limit as bait and the couple walked right into the trap.

Science has demonstrated that free will is an illusion. You don't have to think much to see this is true: where do your thoughts come from? You only present your thoughts or decisions but u don't control where they come from. It’s like a spokesman being said to be the person responsible for a decision.

You're really funny. You don't know what being spiritual means my friend!
Let me enlighten you a bit: Real spiritual people don't go about boasting about charms, you won't even see an amulet with them, the spirit dwells in them it's when they're dominating that you know whose spirit is greater not the noisy attitude! 1Corinthians 2:15

I gave you real world present era examples. Where are yours? Stop relying on cliches. Think for yourself sometimes. Look around you. What physical is being controlled by spiritual? Even covid19, it is people physically studying it and producing vaccines. Yes, spiritual has some effect, but the physical controls the physical far more than the spiritual. Just as placebo or prayers CAN heal a disease but the physical medication for it WILL heal it.

ospido:



What is the relevance of your comments to the post?

Man is not really responsible for his fall as the "brilliant" guy said because he is not responsible for his thoughts. Get the connection now?

GeneralDae:
I wonder why Christians can't accept that the bible is contradictory.

Daniel clearly said God rules in the affairs of men and gives the kingdom to whomever he chooses, while the new testament authors seem to believe that Satan is the ruler of this world. It's a contradiction of Ideologies between Daniel and the new testament authors.

giving it to whom ever he wants means he chose to give it to Adam rather than an angel or Satan then Adam gave it to Satan when he obeyed Satan learn to understand

The kingdom of the World belongs to God...

donhils:
So he lied and Jesus didn't know? If it was a lie, then that thing wouldn't have been called a temptation. I mean, to tempt someone with material things, it has to be something you truly own. Jesus never said Satan lied, he only declined the offer which means that Satan could do it

The temptation in it has nothing to do with the wealth and glory involved and d prestige it will bring to Jesus. Common, Jesus is from heaven, he’s seen glory, riches and prestige. Just like Akeem in COMING TO AMERICA 1, wen the manager of d food store was showing Akeem his house and d wealth of it, without knowing Akeem was d prince of Zamunda. The temptation is dat the offer to join rank wit satan presented to Jesus had in it the element of force. Like in coups, if dey approach u and u refuse, they cud kill u. By refusing Jesus incured d wrath of devil. Whom He was to name SATAN later, I.e ADVERSARY. As-in, satan close mark Jesus thruout

ictjobber:



2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,(C) 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”(D)

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.(E) 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,(F) knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable(G) for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband,(H) who was with her, and he ate it.(I)

7. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked;(J) so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

He didn't lie to them. He told them what would happen if they ate from the tree. When they succumbed and ate from the tree, they didn't die, instead what he said would happen, happened. Both their eyes opened.... How is that a lie?

The question is did they die in the end

PoliteActivist:


Man is not really responsible for his fall as the "brilliant" guy said because he is not responsible for his thoughts. Get the connection now?

U are responsible for ur tots

PoliteActivist:


Science has demonstrated that free will is an illusion. You don't have to think much to see this is true: where do your thoughts come from? You only present your thoughts or decisions but u don't control where they come from. It’s like a spokesman being said to be the person responsible for a decision.



I gave you real world present era examples. Where are yours? Stop relying on cliches. Think for yourself sometimes. Look around you. What physical is being controlled by spiritual? Even covid19, it is people physically studying it and producing vaccines. Yes, spiritual has some effect, but the physical controls the physical far more than the spiritual. Just as placebo or prayers CAN heal a disease but the physical medication for it WILL heal it.

Covid19 is a plot by d illuminati to reduce world population using medical science. Not different from Pharaoh in the Bible relying on d midwives to kill every Hebrew son in Egypt. Forget all d lies u are hearing. Its purely spiritual

bingbagbo:
Daniel 2:37-41
[37]You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory;
[38] and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold.
[39]But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
[40]And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others.
[41]Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay.

DID YOU NOTICE FROM THE ABOVE VERSES THAT, GOD HAS GIVEN THE RULERSHIP OF THIS EARTH TO MAN? THE KINGDOMS OF THIS EARTH BELONG TO MAN.

THOSE WHO CLAIM SATAN RULES THE EARTH, SHOW US WHERE THAT AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN SATAN? THE DEVIL IS A LIAR

See Satan's lies below

Luke 4:5-8
[5]Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
[6]And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.
[7]Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”
[8]And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

JUST AS THE DEVIL DECEIVED EVE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, HE TRIED DECEIVING THE LORD JESUS, BUT HE FAILED. THE DEVIL IS A LIAR

John 8:44

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

IN SPITE OF THE BOLDED, MANY STILL BELIEVE SATAN SPOKE THE TRUTH WHEN HE CLAIMED HE OWNED THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD

You should get a better understanding of the 'KINGDOM' you're talking about.

petra1:


Yes he spoke the truth. God gave the earth to man and Adam delivered it to satan . . He is called the "god of this world " by Paul and the "prince of this world" by Jesus

2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

You should get a better understanding of the 'KINGDOM' you're referring to.

ospido:




You made a very valid point.
If Satan was wrong in his assertion, Jesus would have corrected him straight up.
No time.

The most potent lie ever told was a half-truth. The devil is an unmitigated liar. Don’t be be deceived by half-truths

MISHIGAS!

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is
The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in
at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be
which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are
ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them
by their fruits.
Do men gather
grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD,
HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY
WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I
profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto
a Wise Man,
which built his house
upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded
upon a rock.
26 . "And every one
that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto
a Foolish Man,
which built his house
upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had
ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

A CHRISTIAN BELIEVES THAT THE BIBLE LITERALLY MEANS WHAT IT LITERALLY SAYS- THAT GOD IS AN EXCELLENT COMMUNICATOR, WHO SAYS WHAT HE MEANS, AND MEANS WHAT HE SAYS.

This is an IMMOVABLE, SECURE, SPIRITUAL/MENTAL FOUNDATION to our Souls and Minds, so that we are invulnerable forts against all possible attack.

musicwriter:


The problem is not Satan. The problem is that you've taken the story about Satan and Jesus literally!!. So, you don't understand that Satan is an allegorical metaphor. This's the general problem within Christianity.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE, NOR WHERE YOU COME FROM- YET YOU ARROGANTLY COME FROM NOWHERE TO DECLARE ALL CHRISTIANS STUPID, FOR BELIEVING THAT OUR BIBLES MEAN WHAT THEY SAY!

musicwriter:

Satan means KNOWLEDGE. That is a radical new type of knowledge too hot to handle. But it doesn't mean evil. Satan is a principle denoting KNOWLEDGE, LIGHT, INFORMATION or something of that nature. Again, it doesn't mean evil.

musicwriter:

In Indian Buddhist or Hindu tradition its called SHIVA and it's very well understood by Indian

THERE IS NO "SHIVA" IN BUDDHISM.

This is where anyone should stop reading, because you clearly know nothing of what you are babbling about.

You are just using Asian Religious names you know nothing about, assuming everyone else is more ignorant than yourself.

SHIVA has nothing to do with SATAN.

He is part of the Hindu Trinity, whose other members are BRAHMA and VISHNU.

Why didn't you do a little research before coming on to blather nonsense?

musicwriter:

Indians even bear the name Satan (Shiva) and it's a common Indian name.

IMAGINE THE SHEER INSANITY OF A PEOPLE WHO NAME THEIR CHILDREN AFTER A GOD OF EVIL?

Indians are not such fools.

Those who think they are that foolish are the fools. SHIVA: GOD OF DESTRUCTION would be an honourable name, and anyone bearing it (which I have never heard of in real life- in the BATMAN COMIC Book, there is an antiheroine named SHIVA ROSEN, who beats up strong people for fun,) anyone bestowing it on their child would be putting a terrible burden on them- like naming one's child "JESUS," when they're not Spanish, ODIN, ZEUS, JUPITER, etc.

A quick Google Search turns up a dozen celebrities I never heard of, bearing SHIVA as a First or Family name.

musicwriter:

If a Satan promised the kingdom of this world, to someone, it means that the person was promised KNOWLEDGE, LIGHT, NEW INFORMATION.

THIS THEORY IS BASED ON WHAT?

Why could the person be given a kingdom based on IGNORANCE, DARKNESS, and OLD LIES?

Are those not also factors of Kingdomship?

EXAMPLES are Ancient Empires as well as Modern.

AMERICA, THE BRITISH COMMONWEALTH, THE SOVIET UNION, RED CHINA.

These were all based on IGNORANCE, DARKNESS, and OLD LIES- Satan's Stock-in-Trade!

musicwriter:

The bible was not meant to be taken literally!!

IF THE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH, WHAT WOULD A SATANIST SAY?

Is it not exactly what YOU are saying?

musicwriter:

Satan as evil is a misunderstanding by Euro-gentiles who took over early Christianity from the time of Constantine and polluted the original message that the ancient people were trying to pass to humanity.

THE ROMANS ARE MERELY WHAT YOU KNOW FROM YOUR WESTERN EDUCATION: WHAT ABOUT EASTERN CHRISTIANITY?

You know nothing about The Bible of the original Aramaic Language, that the Latin and Greek users generally know nothing about.

musicwriter:

Christians have been mislead to thinking that there was or there is a literal Satan. And this problem began from a misunderstanding of the allegorical story of a garden of Eden in the book of Genesis.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO IS MISLED?

Do you have EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION? The BUDDHISTS and HINDUS have EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION, and concur that SPIRIT BEINGS EXIST.

Of course, you only cited them to deceive us, knowing nothing about their actual Beliefs and Knowledge.

ARE YOU OPEN TO "NEW" KNOWLEDGE CONCERNING THE LITERAL EXISTENCE OF A PERSONAL DEVIL?

Of course not.

All your talk about respecting "Knowledge," "Light," and "New Knowledge" is just to entice and deceive.

That is what Satan does.

musicwriter:

Properly understood, Satan and Jesus means the same thing. Both are principles representing LIGHT, NEW KNOWLEDGE- the type you cannot handle at first.

SATAN AND LORD YESHUA DO NOT MEAN THE SAME THING, AND CANNOT MEAN THE SAME THING.

YOU simply do not know what you are talking about, and are confused, unable to keep your own lies straight, consistent with Devil-Possession!

BluntTheApostle:


We had many arguments regarding this issue back in theology college.

Did Satan lie?

Not really.

A "BLUNT" IS AMERICAN OYINBO SLANG FOR A HOLLOWED CIGAR FILLED WITH INDIAN HEMP.

That suggests that this "Blunt the Apostle" is a Messenger of Wickedness, who should not be taken seriously, nor trusted.

.   GENESIS 3:1-19.

NOW the Serpent
was more subtil
than any Beast
of the Field which
The LORD God
had made.
And he said unto
the Woman,

"Yea, hath God Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF EVERY TREE
OF THE GARDEN?' "

2. And the Woman said
unto the Serpent,

"We may eat
of the Fruit of the Trees
of the Garden:
3. But of the Fruit of the Tree
which is in the midst
of the Garden,
God hath Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT,
NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT,
LEST YE DIE.' "

4. And the Serpent said
unto the Woman,

"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know
that in the day
ye eat thereof,
then your eyes
shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods,
knowing Good and Evil."

6. And when the Woman saw
that the Tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a Tree to be desired
to make one wise,
she took of the Fruit thereof,
and did eat,
and gave also
unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.
7. And the eyes of them both
were opened,
and they knew
that they were naked;
and they sewed fig leaves together,
and made themselves aprons.
8. And they heard
The Voice of The LORD God
Walking in the Garden
in the cool of the day:
and Adam and his wife
hid themselves
from the Presence of The LORD God
amongst the Trees of the Garden.
9. And The LORD God
Called unto Adam,
and Said unto him,

"Where art thou?"

10. And he said,

"I heard Thy Voice in the Garden,
and I was afraid,
because I was naked;
and I hid myself."

11. And He Said,

"Who told thee
that thou wast naked?
Hast thou eaten of the tree,
whereof I Commanded thee
that thou shouldest not eat?"

12. And the Man said,

"The Woman whom Thou
gavest to be with me,
she gave me of the tree,
and I did eat."

13. And The LORD God
Said unto the Woman,

"What is this
that thou hast done?"

And the Woman said,

"The serpent beguiled me,
and I did eat."

14. And The LORD God Said
unto the Serpent,

"Because thou
hast done this,
thou art Cursed
above all Cattle,
and above every
Beast of the Field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life:
15. "And I will put Enmity
between thee and the Woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."

16. Unto the Woman He Said,

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt
bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be
to thy Husband,
and he shall rule over thee."

17. And unto Adam He Said,

"Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the Tree,
of which I Commanded thee,
Saying,

'THOU SHALT NOT
EAT OF IT:'

Cursed is the Ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of It
all the days of thy life;
18. "Thorns also and thistles
shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat
The Herb of the Field;
19. "In the sweat of thy face
shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the Ground;
for out of it wast thou taken:
for dust thou art,
and unto dust shalt thou return."

BluntTheApostle:

Satan has a kingdom. Even Christ admitted it.

But this kingdom is temporary just like everything Satan gives.

Satan rules the evil system of this world.

Many scholers believe Christ defeated him at Calvary and has reclaimed the world.

. LUKE 4:1-13.

AND Jesus being full
of The Holy Ghost
returned from Jordan,
and was led by The Spirit
into the wilderness,
2. Being forty days tempted
of the Devil.
And in those days
he did eat nothing:
and when they were ended,
he afterward hungered.
3. And the Devil said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
Command this stone
that it be made bread."

4. And Jesus Answered him,
Saying,

"It is written,

'THAT MAN
SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY
WORD OF GOD.' "

5. And the Devil,
taking him up
into an high mountain,
shewed unto him all
The Kingdoms of the World
in a moment of time.
6. And the Devil said unto him,

"All this Power will I give thee,
and the Glory of them:
for that is delivered unto me;
and to whomsoever I will
I give it."

7. "If thou therefore
wilt worship me,
all shall be thine."

8. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT WORSHIP
THE LORD THY GOD,'

and

'HIM ONLY
SHALT THOU SERVE.' "

9. And he brought him
to Jerusalem,
and set him on a pinnacle
of the Temple,the
and said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence:
10. "For it is written,

'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS
CHARGE OVER THEE,
TO KEEP THEE:
11. 'AND IN THEIR HANDS
THEY SHALL BEAR THEE UP,
LEST AT ANY TIME
THOU DASH THY FOOT
AGAINST A STONE.' "

12. And Jesus answering
Said unto him,

"It is Said,

'THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT
THE LORD THY GOD.' "

13. And when the Devil
had ended all the Temptation,
he departed from him
for a season.

SATAN WAS DEFEATED IN THE WILDERNESS TEMPTATION.

BluntTheApostle:

But the world is still evil, and is still being dominated by flesh (Satan).

In fact, we believers have been warned that this world is not our home (even though it was originally meant to be).

A new Earth will come, and this old evil dominance will pass away.

THE EARTH WILL BE RENEWED WHEN THE GOSPEL IS IMPLEMENTED ACROSS ALL THE EARTH.

BluntTheApostle:

Satan did not really lie.

HE TOLD EVE THAT SHE WOULD NOT SURELY DIE: I AM PRETTY SURE THAT THAT WAS A LIE.

BluntTheApostle:

There is actually nowhere in the Bible where Satan actually told a lie.

. JOB 2:1-7.

AND there was a day
when the Sons of God came
to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also among them
to present himself before The LORD.
2. And The LORD Said unto Satan,

"From whence comest thou?"

And Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the earth,
and from walking
up and down in it."

3. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Hast thou considered
My Servant Job,
that there is none like him
in the Earth,
a perfect and an upright man,
one that feareth God,
and escheweth Evil?
And still he holdeth fast
his integrity,
although thou movedst me
against Him,
to destroy him
without Cause."

4. And Satan
answered The LORD,
and said,

"Skin for skin,
yea, all that a man hath
will he give for his life.
5. "But put forth thine hand now,
and touch his bone and his flesh,
and he will curse thee to thy face."

6. And The LORD Said unto Satan,

"Behold,
he is in thine hand;
but save his life."

7. So went Satan forth
from The Presence of The LORD,
and smote Job with sore boils
from the sole of his foot
unto his crown.

In all this did not Job
Sin with his lips.

BluntTheApostle:

So, the idea about Satan being a liar is not founded, but is a dubious inclusion.

WHY CAN YOU NOT SHOW ANY POSITIVE THING SATAN HAS EVER DONE?

SATAN murdered JOB'S children and their Servants, and killed all his herdsmen, but for SOLE SURVIVORS.

He took away JOB'S HEALTH- all to get him to CURSE GOD.

BluntTheApostle:

Satan is only a tempter. Nothing else.

In fact, Satan does not cause any evil all by himself.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was
brought unto him
one possessed
with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people
were amazed,
and said,

"Is not this
The Son of David?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan
cast out Satan,
he is divided
against himself;
how shall then
his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
therefore they shall be
your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by the Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into
a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his Goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will
spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say
unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever
speaketh a word
against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O generation of Vipers,
how can ye,
being evil,
speak good things?
For out of the abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “

37. "For by thy words
thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words
thou shalt be condemned."

.   MATTHEW 12:41-45.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

DISEASE AND DEATH ARE CAUSED BY SATAN STEALING 99% OF SINNERS' LIFE ENERGIES.

BluntTheApostle:

The nature of man is what is evil, and that is what Satan exploits.

There is a saying: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people".

THE NATURE OF MAN IS NOT EVIL: EVIL IS AN IMPLANT FROM THE DEVIL.

It is the only thing in the Soul that can be removed.

.   MARK 16:9.

9. Now when Jesus was risen
early the first day of the week,
he appeared first
to Mary Magdalene,
out of whom he had cast
seven devils.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

. JOHN 8:42-53.

44. "Ye are of your
Father The Devil,
and the lusts
of your Father ye will do.
He was a Murderer
From The Beginning,
and abode not in The Truth,
because there is
no Truth in him.
When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar,
and the Father of It."

HOW CAN A DEVIL-WORSHIPPER TELL US THE TRUTH?

GeneralDae:

ok let me ask you this simple question: Are Jehovah witnesses the only set of people qualified for Paradise?

YES!

I have told you before that the Buddhist religon is peaceful and is now all over the world. It teaches peace and non violence. The Buddha also taught the 8 parts to enlightenment, go look them up. The Western World today are embracing Buddhism like never before and it is still spreading. Immediately so many from the West embrace it in full, it would definitely spread to Africa and Southamerica. So what would you say then?

Buddha lived before Jesus and till today many in my own village have never heard of the name Buddha before.
WHY?
Because the teaching is based on human reasoning.
For instance:
How do Buddhists spread their thoughts?
What does Buddha teach about enemies?
What about rulership and government?

Jesus Christ said we should go and meet our neighbours in their homes {Matthew 10:12} we are to follow the local greeting style, introduce ourselves to them as neighbours living nearby and begin the news about the happy future God promised mankind. Do you think Buddha have such wisdom? If he had then how come his followers never penetrated the whole place with his teachings! Act 1:8
Jesus started his ministry in the first century while Buddha did the same some 500 years before then!
After all Jesus' followers were silenced by Politicians claiming Christians and replaced Christianity with politics during the third century, falsehood reigned ever since then until America declared FREEDOM OF SPEECH EXPRESSION and WORSHIP. That was exactly when Jesus as a mighty spirit being began restructuring his group again as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and within just another hundred years they've covered the earth with Jesus' teachings. Please tell me if there is one person in your own village who has not heard of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES (true Christians)?
Then think of how many people know a single thing about Buddha!

Betscoreodds:
giving it to whom ever he wants means he chose to give it to Adam rather than an angel or Satan then Adam gave it to Satan when he obeyed Satan learn to understand

is that what the passage in Daniel told you?

@Oaroloye,

There is a difference between demon and Devil. The fact that King James favored Devil in demonic possessions does not mean that it should be taken that the Devil ever possessed anyone.

Like I wrote earlier, Satan never committed any evil all by himself. God always allowed him, otherwise no evil would have come through him.

And as for tempting Eve (and by extension, Adam), the Devil did not lie. He told the truth.

PoliteActivist:

Science has demonstrated that free will is an illusion. You don't have to think much to see this is true: where do your thoughts come from? You only present your thoughts or decisions but u don't control where they come from. It’s like a spokesman being said to be the person responsible for a decision.

The highlighted makes me laugh in Bantu language!
So what would you say about a pedophile, rapist, armed robber, ritualist and the rest nah?
Automatically they can't control their thoughts therefore they shouldn't be blamed, right?
Where is your brain nah?
Even a toddler will disagree with the highlighted because it means someone can just snatch his ice-cream and everyone should feel it's normal!

I gave you real world present era examples. Where are yours? Stop relying on cliches. Think for yourself sometimes. Look around you. What physical is being controlled by spiritual? Even covid19, it is people physically studying it and producing vaccines. Yes, spiritual has some effect, but the physical controls the physical far more than the spiritual. Just as placebo or prayers CAN heal a disease but the physical medication for it WILL heal it.

You don't know how powerful spirits are when talking about their influence on humans, shey?
Well let me tell you about a spirit whose name is "JEHOVAH", He claimed He is the Most High God {Exodus 6:2-3, Psalms 83:18} then He promised that a time will come when He will sent out His active force to gather people from all races and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} and not just that but He will do this at the same time when all other people are being deceived by lesser spirits to be killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} this is the time He will use His active force to pick people from all the nations of this world and make them think alike! John 17:20-23

And for your information, this is happening right in our own generation! A group of people has emerged and they're people from all races under this heaven, they are united in faith and no matter what happens they will never lift up weapons against anyone and guess what this spirit sent His son who said:
"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35
And throughout the whole world people speaks of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as a unique group that has this LOVE binding them together as ONE BODY!

It doesn't end there!
This SPIRIT said some good for nothing religionsts will misrepresent His worshipers by stealing the group name first century people call His worshipers (CHRISTIANS) so to distinguish His true worshipers from all these Pagans claiming Christians He (JEHOVAH) will change the name of His own worshipers and begin calling them by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and it was so! Isaiah 65:15
So if atheists are telling you that everything is just happening by chance, go now and tell them that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are here now just as their God has spoken and everything He said about them is happening exactly the way He foretold it not by chance!
But if they want to disprove His mightiness let them present a global group of imperfect people who are perfectly fulfilling what JEHOVAH said by chance! Romans 1:20

GeneralDae:

ok let me ask you this simple question: Are Jehovah witnesses the only set of people qualified for Paradise?

I have told you before that the Buddhist religon is peaceful and is now all over the world. It teaches peace and non violence. The Buddha also taught the 8 parts to enlightenment, go look them up. The Western World today are embracing Buddhism like never before and it is still spreading. Immediately so many from the West embrace it in full, it would definitely spread to Africa and Southamerica. So what would you say then?

Friend, are u a Buddhist? U see all religion pretend to be d religion of peace! Wot am yet to find is another religious leader who taught his followers IF ANY MAN SLAPS U IN THE RITE CHECK, TURN D LEFT. LOVE UR ENEMIES N PRAY FOR THOSE WHO DESPISE U

Make U dey decieve Yosef,Satan don take this world tay tay after he drag kingdom of heaven with Baba God,baba no want his whala but d best place to send am to, na for earth,wey he don already gif mankind....Bible talk am say "woe betide d inhabitants of d earth...."

MaxInDHouse:

The highlighted makes me laugh in Bantu language!
So what would you say about a pedophile, rapist, armed robber, ritualist and the rest nah?
Automatically they can't control their thoughts therefore they shouldn't be blamed, right?
Where is your brain nah?
Even a toddler will disagree with the highlighted because it means someone can just snatch his ice-cream and everyone should feel it's normal!


You don't know how powerful spirits are when talking about their influence on humans, shey?
Well let me tell you about a spirit whose name is "JEHOVAH", He claimed He is the Most High God {Exodus 6:2-3, Psalms 83:18} then He promised that a time will come when He will sent out His active force to gather people from all races and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} and not just that but He will do this at the same time when all other people are being deceived by lesser spirits to be killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} this is the time He will use His active force to pick people from all the nations of this world and make them think alike! John 17:20-23

And for your information, this is happening right in our own generation! A group of people has emerged and they're people from all races under this heaven, they are united in faith and no matter what happens they will never lift up weapons against anyone and guess what this spirit sent His son who said:
"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35
And throughout the whole world people speaks of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as a unique group that has this LOVE binding them together as ONE BODY!

It doesn't end there!
This SPIRIT said some good for nothing religionsts will misrepresent His worshipers by stealing the group name first century people call His worshipers (CHRISTIANS) so to distinguish His true worshipers from all these Pagans claiming Christians He (JEHOVAH) will change the name of His own worshipers and begin calling them by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and it was so! Isaiah 65:15
So if atheists are telling you that everything is just happening by chance, go now and tell them that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are here now just as their God has spoken and everything He said about them is happening exactly the way He foretold it not by chance!
But if they want to disprove His mightiness let them present a global group of imperfect people who are perfectly fulfilling what JEHOVAH said by chance! Romans 1:20

The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist

BluntTheApostle:
@Oaroloye,

There is a difference between demon and Devil. The fact that King James favored Devil in demonic possessions does not mean that it should be taken that the Devil ever possessed anyone.

Like I wrote earlier, Satan never committed any evil all by himself. God always allowed him, otherwise no evil would have come through him.

And as for tempting Eve (and by extension, Adam), the Devil did not lie. He told the truth.

John 13:27 Satan entered into Judas iscariot. Satan enters into people. That Satan told half-truths does not mean he was telling d truth. Half-truth is worse than outright lie

The devil knew exactly who Jesus was,lying to him was pointless. And again if Satan was lying Jesus would have corrected him. there is a good reason why the devil is called the prince of this world. Another evidence is the Nebuchadnezzar dream of a statue ,y did the rock destroy the statue? Its because those kingdoms were not the kingdom of God but of the devil.

Krismas:
U are responsible for ur tots

The same way u r responsible for being born in Nigeria, the type of genes u inherited, the kind of environment u grew up in, etc. Right? Those are the things that'd produce the kind of thoughts you'd have yet u chose non of them!

Krismas:
Covid19 is a plot by d illuminati to reduce world population using medical science. Not different from Pharaoh in the Bible relying on d midwives to kill every Hebrew son in Egypt. Forget all d lies u are hearing. Its purely spiritual

Still, it is being cured by physical not spiritual

Krismas:
The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist

Very Mumu post.
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself posting GIBBERISH.

GeneralDae:

ok let me ask you this simple question: Are Jehovah witnesses the only set of people qualified for Paradise?

I have told you before that the Buddhist religon is peaceful and is now all over the world. It teaches peace and non violence. The Buddha also taught the 8 parts to enlightenment, go look them up. The Western World today are embracing Buddhism like never before and it is still spreading. Immediately so many from the West embrace it in full, it would definitely spread to Africa and Southamerica. So what would you say then?

Exodus 20:1-5, is Jehovah God against idolatry practiced by Buddhists?
Isaiah 43:10-12,21 , Matthew 12:15-18 & Acts 15:7-14 (ASV).

Bros study your Bible & find out....

MaxInDHouse:

The highlighted makes me laugh in Bantu language!
So what would you say about a pedophile, rapist, armed robber, ritualist and the rest nah?
Automatically they can't control their thoughts therefore they shouldn't be blamed, right?
Where is your brain nah?
Even a toddler will disagree with the highlighted because it means someone can just snatch his ice-cream and everyone should feel it's normal!


You don't know how powerful spirits are when talking about their influence on humans, shey?
Well let me tell you about a spirit whose name is "JEHOVAH", He claimed He is the Most High God {Exodus 6:2-3, Psalms 83:18} then He promised that a time will come when He will sent out His active force to gather people from all races and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} and not just that but He will do this at the same time when all other people are being deceived by lesser spirits to be killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} this is the time He will use His active force to pick people from all the nations of this world and make them think alike! John 17:20-23

And for your information, this is happening right in our own generation! A group of people has emerged and they're people from all races under this heaven, they are united in faith and no matter what happens they will never lift up weapons against anyone and guess what this spirit sent His son who said:
"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35
And throughout the whole world people speaks of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as a unique group that has this LOVE binding them together as ONE BODY!

It doesn't end there!
This SPIRIT said some good for nothing religionsts will misrepresent His worshipers by stealing the group name first century people call His worshipers (CHRISTIANS) so to distinguish His true worshipers from all these Pagans claiming Christians He (JEHOVAH) will change the name of His own worshipers and begin calling them by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and it was so! Isaiah 65:15
So if atheists are telling you that everything is just happening by chance, go now and tell them that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are here now just as their God has spoken and everything He said about them is happening exactly the way He foretold it not by chance!
But if they want to disprove His mightiness let them present a global group of imperfect people who are perfectly fulfilling what JEHOVAH said by chance! Romans 1:20

A) Where you born (Nigeria) the type of genes u inherited, the kind of environment u grew up in, etc. Those are the things that'd produce the kind of thoughts you'd have and the type of person you'd be be yet u chose non of them! That's hard to understand?

B) Google the history of JW. How it started and by whom, and how many groups it split into.
As for the rest, like the examples I gave u, I want u to show me in modern era where spirit was better at dealing with a physical problem - war, disease, kidnapping, robbery, etc.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

If someone asks thus question, how do I answer:
How is it Adam and Eve's fault that they were the type of people they were?

Janosky:


Very Mumu post.
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself posting GIBBERISH.

wot is d gibberish in ma post? Why don u debunk ma claims instead of vomit trash against my post? Was ur fake PASTOR Russell not found guilty of scam by a law court for selling miracle seed to his members? Is your New world translation Bible not substandard for choking out the names of the most high e.g EL, YAH with the guess work substitute jehovah? A name not even in the Bible as one of the name of d most high!

PoliteActivist:


If someone asks thus question, how do I answer:
How is it Adam and Eve's fault that they were the type of people they were?

Adam is d only man i’ve Seen, who received a divine expo that a tree in his backyard was poisonous, yet refrained from cutting it down. Its sheer dereliction of responsibility

PoliteActivist:


The same way u r responsible for being born in Nigeria, the type of genes u inherited, the kind of environment u grew up in, etc. Right? Those are the things that'd produce the kind of thoughts you'd have yet u chose non of them!

U are extremely mistaken. Certain things are predestined for u and I. e.g our parents, country of birth, color, sex etc. But u see, on earth, man has the ability to override any predestination. U can get new parents for urself, u can change ur country, ur sex! Mitchell Obama was born a man! He is now a WOMAN birthed 3kids, so too is Serena Williams and the list is endless. No predestination is stronger than the free will of man on the earth. U have to take responsibility. Dats all

Go to Israel and here how Jews will rewrite the story of Jesus of Nazareth, they're still waiting for another Messiah after rejecting the real one.

The same way you're now looking for excuses against the one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers the world has ever known! Isaiah 2:2-4

Surely by their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16

Krismas:
The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist