PoliteActivist:


Still, it is being cured by physical not spiritual

How do u cure wots not there to start wit? U are being SCAMMED

PoliteActivist:

A) Where you born (Nigeria) the type of genes u inherited, the kind of environment u grew up in, etc. Those are the things that'd produce the kind of thoughts you'd have and the type of person you'd be be yet u chose non of them! That's hard to understand?

Now i'm totally different from the people born, bread and brought up where i was born all because i CHOOSE to become one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, that's what freewill means Sir!

B) Google the history of JW. How it started and by whom, and how many groups it split into.
As for the rest, like the examples I gave u, I want u to show me in modern era where spirit was better at dealing with a physical problem - war, disease, kidnapping, robbery, etc.

Splitting is exactly what Jesus foretold will be part of the sign we will see to be sure that he's around doing some separation work in our time:
He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’  He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them.  Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’”

The splitting simply means Jesus and his angels are removing the weeds from the fine seeds, do you notice that the red coloured said bind them in bundles?
Well that's the significance of various groups that sprang out of the Bible students after the death of Charles Taze Russell, the spirits binded them in bundles but kept just one group in his store house (the one and only that's preaching zealously and teaching industriously throughout the earth) as if a mighty spirit being is working with them! Matthew 28:20

MaxInDHouse:
Go to Israel and here how Jews will rewrite the story of Jesus of Nazareth, they're still waiting for another Messiah after rejecting the real one.

The same way you're now looking for excuses against the one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers the world has ever known! Isaiah 2:2-4

Surely by their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16

The Jews are not Christians. They are therefore free to have any view of Jesus as much as they desire. But how can a group who claim to be a Christian group like Jehovah’s Witness, have no good reference from other Christian groups? U are almost the only one who say there is no Hell, Holyspirit is a force, no trinity, no soul, only 144thousand will make heaven, Jesus is angel Michael, and so on. Though u have been warned dat d Vaticanus scripts which your bible heavily leaned on, is corrupt, u will not hear. Being a peaceful organization is not enough, cos groups like Eckankar, Grail message, AMORC etc are equally peaceful, yet they have led so many thru d valley of the shadow of death. The jehovahs witness is a Christian cult, a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Which is designed to lead all its members to d lake of fire

paltielx:
Lolz if so what does the WORLD at John 3:16 mean?

The world in Jhn 3;16, is the people within the system. FOR GOD SO LOVE D world THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT whosever BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT PERISH... The WORLD here, is d WHOSOEVER

Just as we don't take anyone outside the group as Christian!
So if you think Jesus' real race are not worshipers of your God because of difference in teaching how come you expect us to be on the same page with you people?

Well for your information, our God already forewarned us that you people will profane the group name "CHRISTIANS" so He decided to call us by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Krismas:

The Jews are not Christians

MaxInDHouse:
Just as we don't take anyone outside the group as Christian!
So if you think Jesus' real race are not worshipers of your God because of difference in teaching how come you expect us to be on the same page with you people?

Well for your information, our God already forewarned us that you people will profane the group name "CHRISTIANS" so He decided to call us by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Jehovah is not the name of God. U have a responsibility to ensure u are following d right path in dis life. Shameful resurrection is the regrettable consequence of dereliction of dat responsibility. Don’t be emotional for nothing. Tanx and bye

MaxInDHouse:


Now i'm totally different from the people born, bread and brought up where i was born all because i CHOOSE to become one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, that's what freewill means Sir!


Splitting is exactly what Jesus foretold will be part of the sign we will see to be sure that he's around doing some separation work in our time:
He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’  He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them.  Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’”

The splitting simply means Jesus and his angels are removing the weeds from the fine seeds, do you notice that the red coloured said bind them in bundles?
Well that's the significance of various groups that sprang out of the Bible students after the death of Charles Taze Russell, the spirits binded them in bundles but kept just one group in his store house (the one and only that's preaching zealously and teaching industriously throughout the earth) as if a mighty spirit being is working with them! Matthew 28:20

And how is it your doing that u r the type of person who would choose JW while others are not??
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The other point is that Russell and JW have been giving specific years for end of world since 1800's and have all been wrong

Krismas:
The Jews are not Christians. They are therefore free to have any view of Jesus as much as they desire. But how can a group who claim to be a Christian group like Jehovah’s Witness, have no good reference from other Christian groups? U are almost the only one who say there is no Hell, Holyspirit is a force, no trinity, no soul, only 144thousand will make heaven, Jesus is angel Michael, and so on. Though u have been warned dat d Vaticanus scripts which your bible heavily leaned on, is corrupt, u will not hear. Being a peaceful organization is not enough, cos groups like Eckankar, Grail message, AMORC etc are equally peaceful, yet they have led so many thru d valley of the shadow of death. The jehovahs witness is a Christian cult, a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Which is designed to lead all its members to d lake of fire

Bros, please calm down and learn/study your Bible very well.
Bros,is your salvation from "other Christian groups or from Jehovah's son & Servant (Matthew 12:15-18, Acts 3:12-15)?

*There is hell (the grave) Psalms 9:17 & 16:10.

*Daniel 10:13 , Geneva Bible ©1599, Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.
Your Trinity mentors knew this truth since 1599 before the first King James Bible came off the press in 1611 (KJV DECEIVING you). .
Luke 11:20, Matt 12:28, holy spirit is the finger of God.
Psalms 11:4 & Proverbs 15:3,Do you agree that the eyes of God is a person? .

John 3:16 & John 20:17, did Jesus Christ reject your claim on Trinity? .

Genesis 2:7 a living man is a soul.
Your claim not true.
Revelation 1:1,5-6 & 14:1-3, the Revelation given to Jesus is true. .

NWT is not based on the Vaticanus script. Bros, do your research & jakpa from FALSE claims .

Krismas:
U are extremely mistaken. Certain things are predestined for u and I. e.g our parents, country of birth, color, sex etc. But u see, on earth, man has the ability to override any predestination. U can get new parents for urself, u can change ur country, ur sex! Mitchell Obama was born a man! He is now a WOMAN birthed 3kids, so too is Serena Williams and the list is endless. No predestination is stronger than the free will of man on the earth. U have to take responsibility. Dats all

And how is it your doing that you are the type of person who can or can't take responsibility??

Bye anyway!

Krismas:
Jehovah is not the name of God. U have a responsibility to ensure u are following d right path in dis life. Shameful resurrection is the regrettable consequence of dereliction of dat responsibility. Don’t be emotional for nothing. Tanx and bye

post=101514865:
God punish devil

How many people did the Devil kill in the bible compared to God?

PrincessGlow:

And how is it your doing that u r the type of person who would choose JW while others are not?

They are not because they don't know the privilege of FREEWILL. I may not be valued in Nigeria amongst my own race because i chose to be different but throughout the world i have families "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Matthew 10:29-31

The other point is that Russell and JW have been giving specific years for end of world since 1800's and have all been wrong

No Sir they following what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth laid down.
This two persons said in the first century (2000 years ago) "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" Matthew 3:2; 4:17

Please why do you think most Jews back then rejected Jesus?

Well they were expecting the Kingdom to come in their own time after all both John and Jesus emphasized saying "it is near" that's why majority condemned Jesus.

But what about Jesus' disciples?
Despite having the same wrong expectations {Act 1:6-7} they remained faithful and loyal until their last breathe {Revelations 22:20} so we will continue to pronounce it until God's Kingdom come, let unbelievers continue to doubt his coming we are sure he will certainly come! Habakkuk 2:3 compare to 2Peter 3:3-4

MaxInDHouse:

They are not because they don't know the privilege of FREEWILL. I may not be valued in Nigeria amongst my own race because i chose to be different but throughout the world i have families "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Matthew 10:29-31




No Sir they following what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth laid down.
This two persons said in the first century (2000 years ago) "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" Matthew 3:2; 4:17

Please why do you think most Jews back then rejected Jesus?

Well they were expecting the Kingdom to come in their own time after all both John and Jesus emphasized saying "it is near" that's why majority condemned Jesus.

But what about Jesus' disciples?
Despite having the same wrong expectations {Act 1:6-7} they remained faithful and loyal until their last breathe {Revelations 22:20} so we will continue to pronounce it until God's Kingdom come, let unbelievers continue to doubt his coming we are sure he will certainly come! Habakkuk 2:3 compare to 2Peter 3:3-4

You still haven't understood u never chose the type of person you are. If you were the type of person who would reject JW, u would have rejected it. Where's the free will.
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If JW were wrong about end of world so much don't you think they'd also be wrong about other things.
BTW read testimonies of people who left JW - they are all over the web

SHALOM!

. LUKE 4:1-13.

AND Jesus being full
of The Holy Ghost
returned from Jordan,
and was led by The Spirit
into the wilderness,
2. Being forty days tempted
of the Devil.
And in those days
he did eat nothing:
and when they were ended,
he afterward hungered.
3. And the Devil said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
Command this stone
that it be made bread."

4. And Jesus Answered him,
Saying,

"It is written,

'THAT MAN
SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY
WORD OF GOD.' "

5. And the Devil,
taking him up
into an high mountain,
shewed unto him all
The Kingdoms of the World
in a moment of time.
6. And the Devil said unto him,

"All this Power will I give thee,
and the Glory of them:
for that is delivered unto me;
and to whomsoever I will
I give it."

7. "If thou therefore
wilt worship me,
all shall be thine."

8. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT WORSHIP
THE LORD THY GOD,'

and

'HIM ONLY
SHALT THOU SERVE.' "

9. And he brought him
to Jerusalem,
and set him on a pinnacle
of the Temple,the
and said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence:
10. "For it is written,

'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS
CHARGE OVER THEE,
TO KEEP THEE:
11. 'AND IN THEIR HANDS
THEY SHALL BEAR THEE UP,
LEST AT ANY TIME
THOU DASH THY FOOT
AGAINST A STONE.' "

12. And Jesus answering
Said unto him,

"It is Said,

'THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT
THE LORD THY GOD.' "

13. And when the Devil
had ended all the Temptation,
he departed from him
for a season.

PoliteActivist:


Science has demonstrated that free will is an illusion.

THIS IS A STUPID LIE.

What "SCIENCE?"

Who were the Scientists who made such a momentous discovery, and who ratified it?

Not everything claimed to be s Scientific Discovery is true. Not every theory is regarded as responsible.

How would anyone prove such a thing?

OYINBOS STUDY AND EXPERIMENT ON ANIMALS AND BIRDS- SUCH AS IVAN PAVLOV and B.F. SKINNER- AND THEN SAY THAT THEIR FINDINGS APPLY TO HUMAN BEINGS.

Do you accept their findings?

A Psychiatrist has to accept the teachings of people like WIlHELM WUNDT- the first Psychologist- who said that Man is just an ANIMAL- with no such thing as a "SOUL." SIGMUND FREUD- the first Psychoanalyst- who said that everything is about SEX..

None of them addressing the ONE REAL PROBLEM- SOME AGENCY ATTACKS OUR CONSCIOUS AWARENESS, AND REDUCES IT TO 10% OR LESS. Which can be reversed by simple Mental Exercises which are kept from public Knowledge.

PoliteActivist:

You don't have to think much to see this is true: where do your thoughts come from? You only present your thoughts or decisions but u don't control where they come from. It’s like a spokesman being said to be the person responsible for a decision.

THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BEING UNABLE TO CONTROL ONE'S THOUGHTS- OUTSIDE OF LITERAL MENTAL DISEASE.

When you think things that you do not want to think, COMMONSENSE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THOSE THOUGHTS DO NOT COME FROM YOUR MIND- BUT FROM SOME OTHER AGENCY.

.   MATTHEW 12:43-45.

43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

WHEN WE ARE BORN, WE ARE IMPRINTED WITH THE LIVING COMMANDS OF GOD TO OUR SPECIES- JUST LIKE ALL OTHER CREATURES.

. JOHN 1:1-5,9.

IN The Beginning was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The same was
in The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him,
and without Him
was not anything made
that was made.
4. In Him was Life,
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And The Light shineth in Darkness,
and The Darkness comprehended It not.
9. That was The True Light,
which lighteth every man
that cometh into the World.

THIS IS ESSENTIAL FOR ANY CREATURE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS OF ITS SPECIES.

In the case of Humans, THE DEVILS quickly find opportunity to remove the DIVINE IMPRINT, and replace It with one of their own. In NAGUALISM, this is called "THE FOREIGN INSTALLATION."

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-9.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," Saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.' "

. MATTHEW 13:19.

19. "When any one
heareth The Word of The Kingdom,
and Understandeth (It) not,
then cometh The Wicked (One),
and catcheth away That
Which was sown in his heart.
This is he which received seed
By The Way Side."

OBVIOUSLY, THEY CAN ONLY DO THAT TO US IF WE COMMIT SIN- SIN IS DEFINED AS THE FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND- WHICH IS MANIFESTED BY THE BREAKING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

The FOREIGN INSTALLATION is a LIVING BEING in Its own Right. It generates COUNTERFEIT THOUGHTS we mistake for our own- until we set out to DISCIPLINE our Minds.

Then we notice the discrepancies.

THE COMMANDMENTS AND PRECEPTS OF GOD TELL US WHAT TO THINK, AND HOW TO THINK: WHEN WE PERCEIVE THOUGHTS CONTRARY TO THE TEACHINGS OF GOD WE (BIBLE-BELIEVER) KNOW THAT THOSE THOUGHTS DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH US.

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

THEN came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,

2. "Why do thy Disciples
transgress the Tradition
of the Elders?
For they wash not
their hands when
they eat bread."

3. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God
by your Tradition?
4. "For God Commanded,
Saying,

'HONOUR THY FATHER
AND MOTHER:
AND, HE THAT CURSETH
FATHER OR MOTHER
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'

5. "But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

6. 'AND HONOUR NOT
HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'

Thus have ye made
The Commandment of God
of none effect
by your Tradition.
7. "Ye Hypocrites,
well did Esaias
Prophesy of you,
saying,

8. 'THIS PEOPLE
DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN
THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS
OF MEN.' "

10. And he Called the multitude,
and Said unto them,

"Hear, and understand:
11. "Not that which goeth
into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh
out of the mouth,
this defileth a man."

12. Then came his Disciples,
and Said unto him,

"Knowest thou that
the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he Answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

15. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Declare unto us this Parable."

16. And Jesus Said,

"Are ye also yet
without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out
into the draught?
18. "But those things
which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Murders, Adulteries,
Fornications, Thefts,
False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with
unwashen hands
defileth not a man."

ACTING ON THE THOUGHTS OF THE EVIL IMPLANT GIVES IT POWER- ENABLING IT TO GROW AN UGLY ROOT SYSTEM THROUGH OUR SOUL-BODY.

Resisting those thoughts- ignoring them, and going against them- weakens the implant, and breaks off the roots, until none are left.

In fear for its life, the Implant FLEES from your Soul Body, if you do that to It.

That leaves your Mind very quiet and empty. It is disastrous if you do not properly fill the space, and prevent Its return "with Nuclear Weapons!"

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

BIBLICAL MEDITATION IS THEREFORE HIGHLY DAMAGING TO THE SATANIC IMPLANT.

oaroloye:

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

PoliteActivist:

I gave you real world present era examples. Where are yours? Stop relying on cliches. Think for yourself sometimes. Look around you. What physical is being controlled by spiritual? Even covid19, it is people physically studying it and producing vaccines. Yes, spiritual has some effect, but the physical controls the physical far more than the spiritual. Just as placebo or prayers CAN heal a disease but the physical medication for it WILL heal it.

THE PHYSICAL DOES NOT CONTROL THE PHYSICAL MORE THAN THE SPIRITUAL.

There are FOUR means of Controlling the Physical Universe:

(4) AS-IS-NESS; Creation/Annihilation.

(3) ALTER-IS-NESS; Transformation.

(2) IS-NESS; Harmonization.

(1) NOT-IS-NESS; Brute Force.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

PHYSICAL FORCE is the lowest way of handling the Physical Universe, and It always causes more problems, every time It is used.

Including the loss of Spiritual Power, the loss of Memory, dependence upon MEST and Mechanical Vias.

BluntTheApostle:
@Oaroloye,

There is a difference between demon and Devil

YOU DON'T KNOW ANY SUCH DIFFERENCE, AND ARE JUST WRITING TO SOW DISCORD.

The term "DEVIL" is used in the KING JAMES PROTESTANT Bible.

The term "DEMON" is used in ROMAN CATHOLIC Bibles.

quote author=BluntTheApostle post=101531172]
The fact that King James favored Devil in demonic possessions does not mean that it should be taken that the Devil ever possessed anyone.
[/quote]

YOU HAVE ALREADY PROCLAIMED YOURSELF TO BE A DEVIL-WORSHIPPING LIAR- WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING USEFUL TO SAY.

HELL is your Final Destination: so, what is your point?

BluntTheApostle:
@
Like I wrote earlier, Satan never committed any evil all by himself.

SATAN COMPLETELY ABUSED HIS POSITION.

. JOB 1:1-22.

THERE was a man
in the land of Uz,
whose name was Job;
and that man was perfect
and upright,
and one that feared God,
and eschewed Evil.
2. And there were born
unto him seven sons
and three daughters.
3. His substance also
was seven thousand sheep,
and three thousand camels,
and five hundred yoke of oxen,
and five hundred she asses,
and a very great household;
so that this man
was the greatest
of all the men of the East.
4. And his sons went
and feasted in their houses,
every one his day;
and sent and called for
their three sisters
to eat and to drink
with them.
5. And it was so,
when the days
of their feasting
were gone about,
that Job sent
and sanctified them,
and rose up early
in the morning,
and offered burnt offerings
according to the number
of them all:
for Job said,

"It may be that
my sons have sinned,
and cursed God
in their hearts."

Thus did Job continually.
6. Now there was a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.
7. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Whence comest thou?"

Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the Earth,
and from walking
up and down in It."

8. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Hast thou considered
My Servant Job,
that there is none
like him in the Earth,
a perfect and an upright man,
one that feareth God,
and escheweth Evil?"

9. Then Satan
answered The LORD,
and said,

"Doth Job
fear God for nought?
10. "Hast not Thou
made an hedge
about him,
and about his house,
and about all that he hath
on every side?
Thou hast Blessed
the Work of his hands,
and his substance
is increased in the land.
11. "But put forth Thine Hand now,
and touch all that he hath,
and he will curse thee to Thy Face."

12. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Behold, all that he hath
is in thy Power;
only upon himself
put not forth thine hand."

So Satan went forth
from The Presence
of The LORD.

13. And there was a day
when his sons
and his daughters
were eating and drinking wine
in their eldest brother's house:
14. And there came
a messenger unto Job,
and said,

"The oxen were plowing,
and the asses feeding
beside them:
15. "And the Sabeans
fell upon them,
and took them away;
yea, they have slain the servants
with the edge of the sword;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

16. While he was
yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"The Fire of God
is fallen from Heaven,
and hath burned up
the sheep,
and the servants,
and consumed them;
and I only
am escaped alone
to tell thee."

17. While he was
yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"The Chaldeans
made out three bands,
and fell upon the camels,
and have carried them away,
yea, and slain the servants
with the edge of the sword;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

18. While he was yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"Thy sons and thy daughters
were eating and drinking wine
in their eldest brother's house:
19. "And, behold,
there came a great wind
from the wilderness,
and smote
the four corners of the house,
and it fell upon the young men,
and they are dead;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

20. Then Job arose,
and rent his mantle,
and shaved his head,
and fell down upon the ground,
and worshipped,
21. And said,

"Naked came I
out of my mother's womb,
and naked shall I return thither:
The LORD Gave,
and The LORD
hath Taken Away;
Blessed be The Name
of The LORD.

22. In all this Job Sinned not,
nor charged God foolishly.

ALL CREATURES BORN ARE CONNECTED WITH A FEED OF LIVING ENERGY PACKETS THAT ENTER THEIR SOUL BODY AT A POINT CHARACTERISTIC OF THEIR SPECIES (HUMANS' IS BENEATH THE NAVEL,) WHICH MAKES THEM LIVE SO LONG AS THEY USE IT TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE CREATOR IMPRINTED ON THEM.

If they do not do this efficiently, their Soul-Body deteriorates- loses its flexibility and resilience- and becomes rigid and brittle. Eventually the impact of these Energy-of-Life packets cracks the Soul-Body open at the point of impact, causing the contents to gush out, which is immediate Death.

The DEVILS are in an advanced state of deterioration, and as such dare not receive their own Force-of-Life allocation.

By closing the port of entry, they are able to lessen Its impact, prolonging their lives by many centuries.

However, this has forced them to need alternative Life Energy supply sources.

They are able to siphon Life Energy from Living Sinners, and to scavenge It from the Dead. Hence their motive in Tempting and Compelling Humans to Sin and to Die.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

BluntTheApostle:
@
God always allowed him, otherwise no evil would have come through him.

And as for tempting Eve (and by extension, Adam), the Devil did not lie. He told the truth.

GOD GAVE PEOPLE INTO SATAN'S CARE- AND HE CHOSE TO KILL THEM.

He did not have to do that.

Krismas:
The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist

CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL'S DOCTRINE WAS BASED ON PYRAMIDOLOGY- THEREFORE JUDGE RUTHERFORD PHASED OUT HIS BOOKS AND ACTUAL TEACHINGS, SUCH THAT FEW, IF ANY JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES^® TODAY HAVE EVER SEEN THEM.

[Note: They are available as ANDROID Apps, now!]

Krismas:
John 13:27 Satan entered into Judas iscariot. Satan enters into people. That Satan told half-truths does not mean he was telling d truth. Half-truth is worse than outright lie

THIS GUY GETS IT!

blacknoir:
The devil knew exactly who Jesus was,lying to him was pointless. And again if Satan was lying Jesus would have corrected him. there is a good reason why the devil is called the prince of this world. Another evidence is the Nebuchadnezzar dream of a statue ,y did the rock destroy the statue? Its because those kingdoms were not the kingdom of God but of the devil.

b]THIS GUY ALSO GETS IT![/b]

PoliteActivist:


If someone asks thus question, how do I answer:
How is it Adam and Eve's fault that they were the type of people they were?

THEY WERE TOLD THE CONSEQUENCES: [THEY CHOSE THE CONSEQUENCES.

Krismas:
Adam is d only man i’ve Seen, who received a divine expo that a tree in his backyard was poisonous, yet refrained from cutting it down. Its sheer dereliction of responsibility

CUTTING WAS AN OPTION: BUT HIS MANDATE WAS TO TEND.

. GENESIS 2:15.

15. And The LORD God
took the Man,
and put him into
The Garden of Eden to dress It
and to keep It.

PoliteActivist:


Man is not really responsible for his fall as the "brilliant" guy said because he is not responsible for his thoughts. Get the connection now?

Man was in his full senses when he erred.
He was Pre-warned by his creator and friend before he was deceived by a stranger and an enemy.

Krismas:
The most potent lie ever told was a half-truth. The devil is an unmitigated liar. Don’t be be deceived by half-truths

If God is the one ruling the world, then why does man keep asking for God's kingdom to come to earth in the famous "our Lords prayer"?

Most often than not, we see the truth but refuse to accept it.
Don't you see that 2Cor. 4:4 is at work?

Betscoreodds:


The question is did they die in the end

The real question is did they immediately they bit from the fruit?

PrincessGlow:

You still haven't understood u never chose the type of person you are. If you were the type of person who would reject JW, u would have rejected it. Where's the free will.

Freewill is when man sees what benefits him and grab it with all his strength {Matthew 13:45-46} where you are getting it wrong is your in ability to see the benefits of faith {Hebrew 11:1} many of you thinks that a faithful person is suffering because there are things faithless people will do that faithful people won't do but the truth is faithful people see the benefits of being a friend of God. We are not Deeperlife or RCCG or MFM or Chosen Churchgoers who think they must suffer in this world to enjoy in heaven rather we are enjoying the best of our life now despite all the troubles Satan is giving Mankind. That's what is paining Satan, he knew JWs are having good times despite all the troubles in the world.
So i chose happiness because i can perceive it and i'm 100% sure that if you're also able to grasp it you will do the same! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18

If JW were wrong about end of world so much don't you think they'd also be wrong about other things.
BTW read testimonies of people who left JW - they are all over the web

They are not wrong in anyway!
When John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth walked this earth the world was better than this regarding the tension in people's hearts. Anxiety is not these rooted in the minds of the majority. It's unwise people that are not viewing matters from the right sense. To illustrate when the plantain sprouts on it's stem we can all see it but if left unattended to gradually it will routine on it's stem!
That's what we're saying here. Each second the world is fast approaching it's end so while Satan is blurring the senses of many with Scientific discoveries wise people can see that instead of things getting better it's getting worse by the day!
So they got nothing wrong my friend it's unwise people that are thinking they got things wrong.
As for those leaving the organization of JWs that's the beauty of truth because even when Jesus was here performing the greatest miracles mankind ever seen many of his followers left him because they thought he was wrong! John 6:61-66
So if a perfect teacher like Jesus can't keep unwise people don't think his imperfect followers can keep them!

I

ospido:




If God is the one ruling the world, then why does man keep asking for God's kingdom to come to earth in the famous "our Lords prayer"?

Most often than not, we see the truth but refuse to accept it.
Don't you see that 2Cor. 4:4 is at work?

Ur personal reasons is not enough in dis matter. U need to read d bible more. Try reading first Mathew 21:33-40 if u are serious in understanding the issues abt d kingdom of God

Krismas:
I Ur personal reasons is not enough in dis matter. U need to read d bible more. Try reading first Mathew 21:33-40 if u are serious in understanding the issues abt d kingdom of God

This illustration does not apply.
The slaves in the parable are God's prophets murdered by humanity.
While that son is Jesus Christ who was also murdered.
The owner of the vineyard is Jehovah God.

Meanwhile,Jesus himself called Satan the ruler of the world.....
John 14:30
"Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me."

John 12:31....
"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out".
Apostle Paul said he is the god of this world in 2Corinthians 4:4.....
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

Satan was chased from heaven to the earth in Revelation 12:9,12......

9. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
12. "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

MaxInDHouse:

Freewill is when man sees what benefits him and grab it with all his strength {Matthew 13:45-46} where you are getting it wrong is your in ability to see the benefits of faith {Hebrew 11:1} many of you thinks that a faithful person is suffering because there are things faithless people will do that faithful people won't do but the truth is faithful people see the benefits of being a friend of God. We are not Deeperlife or RCCG or MFM or Chosen Churchgoers who think they must suffer in this world to enjoy in heaven rather we are enjoying the best of our life now despite all the troubles Satan is giving Mankind. That's what is paining Satan, he knew JWs are having good times despite all the troubles in the world.
So i chose happiness because i can perceive it and i'm 100% sure that if you're also able to grasp it you will do the same! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18



They are not wrong in anyway!
When John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth walked this earth the world was better than this regarding the tension in people's hearts. Anxiety is not these rooted in the minds of the majority. It's unwise people that are not viewing matters from the right sense. To illustrate when the plantain sprouts on it's stem we can all see it but if left unattended to gradually it will routine on it's stem!
That's what we're saying here. Each second the world is fast approaching it's end so while Satan is blurring the senses of many with Scientific discoveries wise people can see that instead of things getting better it's getting worse by the day!
So they got nothing wrong my friend it's unwise people that are thinking they got things wrong.
As for those leaving the organization of JWs that's the beauty of truth because even when Jesus was here performing the greatest miracles mankind ever seen many of his followers left him because they thought he was wrong! John 6:61-66
So if a perfect teacher like Jesus can't keep unwise people don't think his imperfect followers can keep them!

I don't know why you can't see that your thoughts and therefore your decisions and choices are based ENTIRELY on how your brain works, your genes, where you were born, the environment you were raised in, etc. NONE of which you chose. If any of those things were changed your choices would change. So your choices were pre-determined by things you never chose. So where's the free will?
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I told you to read what ex-JW are saying, never said anything about their leaving.
As for the rest, Christ never gave a world ending based and a specific year. See below

MaxInDHouse:

Freewill is when man sees what benefits him and grab it with all his strength {Matthew 13:45-46} where you are getting it wrong is your in ability to see the benefits of faith {Hebrew 11:1} many of you thinks that a faithful person is suffering because there are things faithless people will do that faithful people won't do but the truth is faithful people see the benefits of being a friend of God. We are not Deeperlife or RCCG or MFM or Chosen Churchgoers who think they must suffer in this world to enjoy in heaven rather we are enjoying the best of our life now despite all the troubles Satan is giving Mankind. That's what is paining Satan, he knew JWs are having good times despite all the troubles in the world.
So i chose happiness because i can perceive it and i'm 100% sure that if you're also able to grasp it you will do the same! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18



They are not wrong in anyway!
When John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth walked this earth the world was better than this regarding the tension in people's hearts. Anxiety is not these rooted in the minds of the majority. It's unwise people that are not viewing matters from the right sense. To illustrate when the plantain sprouts on it's stem we can all see it but if left unattended to gradually it will routine on it's stem!
That's what we're saying here. Each second the world is fast approaching it's end so while Satan is blurring the senses of many with Scientific discoveries wise people can see that instead of things getting better it's getting worse by the day!
So they got nothing wrong my friend it's unwise people that are thinking they got things wrong.
As for those leaving the organization of JWs that's the beauty of truth because even when Jesus was here performing the greatest miracles mankind ever seen many of his followers left him because they thought he was wrong! John 6:61-66
So if a perfect teacher like Jesus can't keep unwise people don't think his imperfect followers can keep them!

Those people will not understand any of those things you're rightly telling them because in 2Cor. 4:4... Satan has blinded their minds.
One was talking of free will. And as you rightly said free will comes to play when you use your God given perceptive powers and reasoning to known right from wrong. This was what Adam failed to use properly.
But you have made your choice to become a servant of Jehovah. Well done.

Someone talked about JW making wrong predictions about the end of the world.
Well JW's at no time categorically said so. Even the apostles of Jesus thought so too in Acts 1:6, when they asked the question below.
6. "So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

Remember,some of the persons quoting you are apostates.

ospido:




Those people will not understand any of those things you're rightly telling them because in 2Cor. 4:4... Satan has blinded their minds.
One was talking of free will. And as you rightly said free will comes to play when you use your God given perceptive powers and reasoning to known right from wrong. This was what Adam failed to use properly.
But you have made your choice to become a servant of Jehovah. Well done.

Someone talked about JW making wrong predictions about the end of the world.
Well JW's at no time categorically said so. Even the apostles of Jesus thought so too in Acts 1:6, when they asked the question below.
6. "So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

Remember,some of the persons quoting you are apostates.

I've never had anything to do with JW. I am only stating FACTS everyone can see for themselves.

See my post above. Argue it with logic. Here again:

I don't know why you can't see that your thoughts and therefore your decisions and choices are based ENTIRELY on how your brain works, your genes, where you were born, the environment you were raised in, etc. NONE of which you chose. If any of those things were changed your choices would change. So your choices were pre-determined by things you never chose. So where's the free will?
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As for the rest, the apostles never gave end of world prediction based on a specific year. JW's did - many times. See below

ospido:



This illustration does not apply.
The slaves in the parable are God's prophets murdered by humanity.
While that son is Jesus Christ who was also murdered.
The owner of the vineyard is Jehovah God.

Meanwhile,Jesus himself called Satan the ruler of the world.....
John 14:30
"Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me."

John 12:31....
"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out".
Apostle Paul said he is the god of this world in 2Corinthians 4:4.....
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

Satan was chased from heaven to the earth in Revelation 12:9,12......

9. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
12. "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Tank u for taking time to read my referred scripture. I wanted u to see that, 1. The Vineyard is the kingdom of the earth. 2 The owner is God himself who planted it 3. After which HE LEASED it out to MEN not satan. 4 HE went to a FAR COUNTRY. Heaven. So the kingdom of earth is in leasehold of men. Next, i want us to harmonize our understanding of biblical terminologies. When the new testament say WORLD, It means SOCIAL/POLITICAL SYSTEM prevailing on the earth, not the earth itself. In the leasehold of earth in dat parable, there was the murderous culture, fueled by greed prevalent among the tenants. Which is not the culture of God. The earth is full of strange cultures emanating from satan. Thats why he is the prince of the world, thats why he is the ruler of the WORLD. NO sooner God gives a man an ability, a talent etc, he diverts it towards impure ends to the glorification of satan. thats how human give their authority to the Devil. By getting into his system and doing the will of the devil

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

. LUKE 4:1-13.

AND Jesus being full
of The Holy Ghost
returned from Jordan,
and was led by The Spirit
into the wilderness,
2. Being forty days tempted
of the Devil.
And in those days
he did eat nothing:
and when they were ended,
he afterward hungered.
3. And the Devil said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
Command this stone
that it be made bread."

4. And Jesus Answered him,
Saying,

"It is written,

'THAT MAN
SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY
WORD OF GOD.' "

5. And the Devil,
taking him up
into an high mountain,
shewed unto him all
The Kingdoms of the World
in a moment of time.
6. And the Devil said unto him,

"All this Power will I give thee,
and the Glory of them:
for that is delivered unto me;
and to whomsoever I will
I give it."

7. "If thou therefore
wilt worship me,
all shall be thine."

8. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
for it is written,

'THOU SHALT WORSHIP
THE LORD THY GOD,'

and

'HIM ONLY
SHALT THOU SERVE.' "

9. And he brought him
to Jerusalem,
and set him on a pinnacle
of the Temple,the
and said unto him,

"If thou be The Son of God,
cast thyself down from hence:
10. "For it is written,

'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS
CHARGE OVER THEE,
TO KEEP THEE:
11. 'AND IN THEIR HANDS
THEY SHALL BEAR THEE UP,
LEST AT ANY TIME
THOU DASH THY FOOT
AGAINST A STONE.' "

12. And Jesus answering
Said unto him,

"It is Said,

'THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT
THE LORD THY GOD.' "

13. And when the Devil
had ended all the Temptation,
he departed from him
for a season.



THIS IS A STUPID LIE.

What "SCIENCE?"

Who were the Scientists who made such a momentous discovery, and who ratified it?

Not everything claimed to be s Scientific Discovery is true. Not every theory is regarded as responsible.

How would anyone prove such a thing?

OYINBOS STUDY AND EXPERIMENT ON ANIMALS AND BIRDS- SUCH AS IVAN PAVLOV and B.F. SKINNER- AND THEN SAY THAT THEIR FINDINGS APPLY TO HUMAN BEINGS.

Do you accept their findings?

A Psychiatrist has to accept the teachings of people like WIlHELM WUNDT- the first Psychologist- who said that Man is just an ANIMAL- with no such thing as a "SOUL." SIGMUND FREUD- the first Psychoanalyst- who said that everything is about SEX..

None of them addressing the ONE REAL PROBLEM- SOME AGENCY ATTACKS OUR CONSCIOUS AWARENESS, AND REDUCES IT TO 10% OR LESS. Which can be reversed by simple Mental Exercises which are kept from public Knowledge.



THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BEING UNABLE TO CONTROL ONE'S THOUGHTS- OUTSIDE OF LITERAL MENTAL DISEASE.

When you think things that you do not want to think, COMMONSENSE SHOULD TELL YOU THAT THOSE THOUGHTS DO NOT COME FROM YOUR MIND- BUT FROM SOME OTHER AGENCY.

.   MATTHEW 12:43-45.

43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

WHEN WE ARE BORN, WE ARE IMPRINTED WITH THE LIVING COMMANDS OF GOD TO OUR SPECIES- JUST LIKE ALL OTHER CREATURES.

. JOHN 1:1-5,9.

IN The Beginning was The Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The same was
in The Beginning with God.
3. All things were made by Him,
and without Him
was not anything made
that was made.
4. In Him was Life,
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And The Light shineth in Darkness,
and The Darkness comprehended It not.
9. That was The True Light,
which lighteth every man
that cometh into the World.

THIS IS ESSENTIAL FOR ANY CREATURE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS OF ITS SPECIES.

In the case of Humans, THE DEVILS quickly find opportunity to remove the DIVINE IMPRINT, and replace It with one of their own. In NAGUALISM, this is called "THE FOREIGN INSTALLATION."

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-9.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," Saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.' "

. MATTHEW 13:19.

19. "When any one
heareth The Word of The Kingdom,
and Understandeth (It) not,
then cometh The Wicked (One),
and catcheth away That
Which was sown in his heart.
This is he which received seed
By The Way Side."

OBVIOUSLY, THEY CAN ONLY DO THAT TO US IF WE COMMIT SIN- SIN IS DEFINED AS THE FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND- WHICH IS MANIFESTED BY THE BREAKING OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

The FOREIGN INSTALLATION is a LIVING BEING in Its own Right. It generates COUNTERFEIT THOUGHTS we mistake for our own- until we set out to DISCIPLINE our Minds.

Then we notice the discrepancies.

THE COMMANDMENTS AND PRECEPTS OF GOD TELL US WHAT TO THINK, AND HOW TO THINK: WHEN WE PERCEIVE THOUGHTS CONTRARY TO THE TEACHINGS OF GOD WE (BIBLE-BELIEVER) KNOW THAT THOSE THOUGHTS DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH US.

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

THEN came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,

2. "Why do thy Disciples
transgress the Tradition
of the Elders?
For they wash not
their hands when
they eat bread."

3. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God
by your Tradition?
4. "For God Commanded,
Saying,

'HONOUR THY FATHER
AND MOTHER:
AND, HE THAT CURSETH
FATHER OR MOTHER
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'

5. "But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

6. 'AND HONOUR NOT
HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'

Thus have ye made
The Commandment of God
of none effect
by your Tradition.
7. "Ye Hypocrites,
well did Esaias
Prophesy of you,
saying,

8. 'THIS PEOPLE
DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN
THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS
OF MEN.' "

10. And he Called the multitude,
and Said unto them,

"Hear, and understand:
11. "Not that which goeth
into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh
out of the mouth,
this defileth a man."

12. Then came his Disciples,
and Said unto him,

"Knowest thou that
the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he Answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

15. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Declare unto us this Parable."

16. And Jesus Said,

"Are ye also yet
without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out
into the draught?
18. "But those things
which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Murders, Adulteries,
Fornications, Thefts,
False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with
unwashen hands
defileth not a man."

ACTING ON THE THOUGHTS OF THE EVIL IMPLANT GIVES IT POWER- ENABLING IT TO GROW AN UGLY ROOT SYSTEM THROUGH OUR SOUL-BODY.

Resisting those thoughts- ignoring them, and going against them- weakens the implant, and breaks off the roots, until none are left.

In fear for its life, the Implant FLEES from your Soul Body, if you do that to It.

That leaves your Mind very quiet and empty. It is disastrous if you do not properly fill the space, and prevent Its return "with Nuclear Weapons!"

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

BIBLICAL MEDITATION IS THEREFORE HIGHLY DAMAGING TO THE SATANIC IMPLANT.





THE PHYSICAL DOES NOT CONTROL THE PHYSICAL MORE THAN THE SPIRITUAL.

There are FOUR means of Controlling the Physical Universe:

(4) AS-IS-NESS; Creation/Annihilation.

(3) ALTER-IS-NESS; Transformation.

(2) IS-NESS; Harmonization.

(1) NOT-IS-NESS; Brute Force.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

PHYSICAL FORCE is the lowest way of handling the Physical Universe, and It always causes more problems, every time It is used.

Including the loss of Spiritual Power, the loss of Memory, dependence upon MEST and Mechanical Vias.



YOU DON'T KNOW ANY SUCH DIFFERENCE, AND ARE JUST WRITING TO SOW DISCORD.

The term "DEVIL" is used in the KING JAMES PROTESTANT Bible.

The term "DEMON" is used in ROMAN CATHOLIC Bibles.

quote author=BluntTheApostle post=101531172]
The fact that King James favored Devil in demonic possessions does not mean that it should be taken that the Devil ever possessed anyone.


YOU HAVE ALREADY PROCLAIMED YOURSELF TO BE A DEVIL-WORSHIPPING LIAR- WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING USEFUL TO SAY.

HELL is your Final Destination: so, what is your point?

@
Like I wrote earlier, Satan never committed any evil all by himself.


SATAN COMPLETELY ABUSED HIS POSITION.

. JOB 1:1-22.

THERE was a man
in the land of Uz,
whose name was Job;
and that man was perfect
and upright,
and one that feared God,
and eschewed Evil.
2. And there were born
unto him seven sons
and three daughters.
3. His substance also
was seven thousand sheep,
and three thousand camels,
and five hundred yoke of oxen,
and five hundred she asses,
and a very great household;
so that this man
was the greatest
of all the men of the East.
4. And his sons went
and feasted in their houses,
every one his day;
and sent and called for
their three sisters
to eat and to drink
with them.
5. And it was so,
when the days
of their feasting
were gone about,
that Job sent
and sanctified them,
and rose up early
in the morning,
and offered burnt offerings
according to the number
of them all:
for Job said,

"It may be that
my sons have sinned,
and cursed God
in their hearts."

Thus did Job continually.
6. Now there was a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.
7. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Whence comest thou?"

Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the Earth,
and from walking
up and down in It."

8. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Hast thou considered
My Servant Job,
that there is none
like him in the Earth,
a perfect and an upright man,
one that feareth God,
and escheweth Evil?"

9. Then Satan
answered The LORD,
and said,

"Doth Job
fear God for nought?
10. "Hast not Thou
made an hedge
about him,
and about his house,
and about all that he hath
on every side?
Thou hast Blessed
the Work of his hands,
and his substance
is increased in the land.
11. "But put forth Thine Hand now,
and touch all that he hath,
and he will curse thee to Thy Face."

12. And The LORD
Said unto Satan,

"Behold, all that he hath
is in thy Power;
only upon himself
put not forth thine hand."

So Satan went forth
from The Presence
of The LORD.

13. And there was a day
when his sons
and his daughters
were eating and drinking wine
in their eldest brother's house:
14. And there came
a messenger unto Job,
and said,

"The oxen were plowing,
and the asses feeding
beside them:
15. "And the Sabeans
fell upon them,
and took them away;
yea, they have slain the servants
with the edge of the sword;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

16. While he was
yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"The Fire of God
is fallen from Heaven,
and hath burned up
the sheep,
and the servants,
and consumed them;
and I only
am escaped alone
to tell thee."

17. While he was
yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"The Chaldeans
made out three bands,
and fell upon the camels,
and have carried them away,
yea, and slain the servants
with the edge of the sword;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

18. While he was yet speaking,
there came also another,
and said,

"Thy sons and thy daughters
were eating and drinking wine
in their eldest brother's house:
19. "And, behold,
there came a great wind
from the wilderness,
and smote
the four corners of the house,
and it fell upon the young men,
and they are dead;
and I only am escaped alone
to tell thee."

20. Then Job arose,
and rent his mantle,
and shaved his head,
and fell down upon the ground,
and worshipped,
21. And said,

"Naked came I
out of my mother's womb,
and naked shall I return thither:
The LORD Gave,
and The LORD
hath Taken Away;
Blessed be The Name
of The LORD.

22. In all this Job Sinned not,
nor charged God foolishly.

ALL CREATURES BORN ARE CONNECTED WITH A FEED OF LIVING ENERGY PACKETS THAT ENTER THEIR SOUL BODY AT A POINT CHARACTERISTIC OF THEIR SPECIES (HUMANS' IS BENEATH THE NAVEL,) WHICH MAKES THEM LIVE SO LONG AS THEY USE IT TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE CREATOR IMPRINTED ON THEM.

If they do not do this efficiently, their Soul-Body deteriorates- loses its flexibility and resilience- and becomes rigid and brittle. Eventually the impact of these Energy-of-Life packets cracks the Soul-Body open at the point of impact, causing the contents to gush out, which is immediate Death.

The DEVILS are in an advanced state of deterioration, and as such dare not receive their own Force-of-Life allocation.

By closing the port of entry, they are able to lessen Its impact, prolonging their lives by many centuries.

However, this has forced them to need alternative Life Energy supply sources.

They are able to siphon Life Energy from Living Sinners, and to scavenge It from the Dead. Hence their motive in Tempting and Compelling Humans to Sin and to Die.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

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God always allowed him, otherwise no evil would have come through him.

And as for tempting Eve (and by extension, Adam), the Devil did not lie. He told the truth.



GOD GAVE PEOPLE INTO SATAN'S CARE- AND HE CHOSE TO KILL THEM.

He did not have to do that.

The Jehovah’s witness is a group of misguided Christian cult slapped together by a legally affirmed charlatan by the name Pastor Taze Russell. The group since inception has been known to predict the end of the world 5times starting from 1945 with outstanding failure. They have a bible translation copied from the work of two damned non-believing professors who saw the Bible as another antique literature. A bible long rejected by scholars for its huge margins of error. In real life, I have only met one good member! The rest have all been hypocrites and secret cultist


CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL'S DOCTRINE WAS BASED ON PYRAMIDOLOGY- THEREFORE JUDGE RUTHERFORD PHASED OUT HIS BOOKS AND ACTUAL TEACHINGS, SUCH THAT FEW, IF ANY JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES^® TODAY HAVE EVER SEEN THEM.

[Note: They are available as ANDROID Apps, now!]

John 13:27 Satan entered into Judas iscariot. Satan enters into people. That Satan told half-truths does not mean he was telling d truth. Half-truth is worse than outright lie

THIS GUY GETS IT!

The devil knew exactly who Jesus was,lying to him was pointless. And again if Satan was lying Jesus would have corrected him. there is a good reason why the devil is called the prince of this world. Another evidence is the Nebuchadnezzar dream of a statue ,y did the rock destroy the statue? Its because those kingdoms were not the kingdom of God but of the devil.

b]THIS GUY ALSO GETS IT![/b]



If someone asks thus question, how do I answer:
How is it Adam and Eve's fault that they were the type of people they were?

THEY WERE TOLD THE CONSEQUENCES: [THEY CHOSE THE CONSEQUENCES.

Adam is d only man i’ve Seen, who received a divine expo that a tree in his backyard was poisonous, yet refrained from cutting it down. Its sheer dereliction of responsibility

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. GENESIS 2:15.

15. And The LORD God
took the Man,
and put him into
The Garden of Eden to dress It
and to keep It.

Matthew 3:10. AN NOW IS THE AX LAID AT THE ROOT OF TREES, ANY TREE THAT DOES NOT BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT IS CUT DOWN AND THROWN INSIDE FIRE. This is the summary of Biblical position towards bad trees. Its why Jesus cursed the fig tree. God told Adam to TEND the GARDEN not a TREE. To tend a garden, u must have to get rid of weeds. and the evil tree was a weed. it had no reason to remain encumbering the ground.

PrincessGlow:

I don't know why you can't see that your thoughts and therefore your decisions and choices are based ENTIRELY on how your brain works, your genes, where you were born, the environment you were raised in, etc. NONE of which you chose. If any of those things were changed your choices would change. So your choices were pre-determined by things you never chose. So where's the free will?

It's like i should tell you a brief story about myself. A Muslim and soldier whose thought was to fight and defend his country as the most reasonable thing ever but all of a sudden began listening to JWs and now vowed never to raise up weapons against anyone no matter what happens. Guy you missed this one big time. There is nothing like predestination, people choose what they want to do with their lives.

I told you to read what ex-JW are saying, never said anything about their leaving.
As for the rest, Christ never gave a world ending based and a specific year. See below

I've met with real exjws as in a former missionary who was aspiring to become a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. My guy after a lengthy chat with this old man on Facebook messenger he burst into tears saying:

Stop! Stop!! Stop!!! You're making me cry!

Why?

I made him see what he's loosing if he will not return back to worship with God's people!

The highlighted!

Peter has finished all apostates with just one question:

If you leave the person or group claiming the only way, to whom will you go?

Please ask any apostate which group have they found performing like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization? John 6:68

So let them present a better performing group than God's organization!

ospido:

Those people will not understand any of those things you're rightly telling them because in 2Cor. 4:4... Satan has blinded their minds.
One was talking of free will. And as you rightly said free will comes to play when you use your God given perceptive powers and reasoning to known right from wrong. This was what Adam failed to use properly.
But you have made your choice to become a servant of Jehovah. Well done.
Someone talked about JW making wrong predictions about the end of the world.
Well JW's at no time categorically said so. Even the apostles of Jesus thought so too in Acts 1:6, when they asked the question below.
6. "So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

Remember,some of the persons quoting you are apostates

Krismas:
The world in Jhn 3;16, is the people within the system. FOR GOD SO LOVE D world THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT whosever BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT PERISH... The WORLD here, is d WHOSOEVER

The world here as you can see reprensent the world of mankind which some have chosen to believe in Jesus while the 'whole world' in 1John 5:19 represent the general world we live in

MaxInDHouse:


It's like i should tell you a brief story about myself. A Muslim and soldier whose thought was to fight and defend his country as the most reasonable thing ever but all of a sudden began listening to JWs and now vowed never to raise up weapons against anyone no matter what happens. Guy you missed this one big time. There is nothing like predestination, people choose what they want to do with their lives.



I've met with real exjws as in a former missionary who was aspiring to become a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. My guy after a lengthy chat with this old man on Facebook messenger he burst into tears saying:

Stop! Stop!! Stop!!! You're making me cry!

Why?

I made him see what he's loosing if he will not return back to worship with God's people!

I'm sure u can see the sense in what I'm saying. You are just arguing. The TYPE OF PERSON you are, which you never chose, determined everything. If u were a different type of person u would have rejected JW and stayed with Islam. If u think deeply enough you'd realise man is basically an advanced robot.
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I watched a video of a 73 year old woman saying she no longer believed in JW teachings but had to stay because it was all her life. From what I hear, it is when you try to leave JW that you'd realise you joined a cult

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Krismas:
John 13:27 Satan entered into Judas iscariot. Satan enters into people. That Satan told half-truths does not mean he was telling d truth. Half-truth is worse than outright lie

First of all, The Gospel of Mark which is the earliest gospel did not mention the Devil entering Judas. The devil entering Judas is most certainly a dubious or figurative inclusion. It doesn't mean that the Devil literally entered him. There are demonic possessions which God Himself authorized. For example, the possession of Saul by an evil spirit from God.

It is very possible that (if indeed Judas was possessed by a demon or a devil), the evil spirit came from God since Christ Himself admitted that Judas was serving a purpose by betraying Him.

Now, to half-truths. What is an half-truth? Was God not also guilty of half-truths?

Why didn't He tell Adam and Eve the full repercussions of eating from the forbidden tree?

BluntTheApostle:


First of all, The Gospel of Mark which is the earliest gospel did not mention the Devil entering Judas. The devil entering Judas is most certainly a dubious or figurative inclusion. It doesn't mean that the Devil literally entered him. There are demonic possessions which God Himself authorized. For example, the possession of Saul by an evil spirit from God.

It is very possible that (if indeed Judas was possessed by a demon or a devil), the evil spirit came from God since Christ Himself admitted that Judas was serving a purpose by betraying Him.

Now, to half-truths. What is an half-truth? Was God not also guilty of half-truths?

Why didn't He tell Adam and Eve the full repercussions of eating from the forbidden tree?

Do u go to all dis length just to win an argument? I presented John 13:27. Which says SATAN ENTERED INTO JUDAS! U say its either dubious script or figurative. U are entitled to your opinion, believe whatever u like. In Adams case God warned him enough. Matthew 7:18-20 Jesus even repeated what shud be done to evil trees. Cut it down and throw it into fire. After being told the tree was evil, he can only have himself to blame for not disposing of it

Janosky:


Bros, please calm down and learn/study your Bible very well.
Bros,is your salvation from "other Christian groups or from Jehovah's son & Servant (Matthew 12:15-18, Acts 3:12-15)?

*There is hell (the grave) Psalms 9:17 & 16:10.

*Daniel 10:13 , Geneva Bible ©1599, Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.
Your Trinity mentors knew this truth since 1599 before the first King James Bible came off the press in 1611 (KJV DECEIVING you). .
Luke 11:20, Matt 12:28, holy spirit is the finger of God.
Psalms 11:4 & Proverbs 15:3,Do you agree that the eyes of God is a person? .

John 3:16 & John 20:17, did Jesus Christ reject your claim on Trinity? .

Genesis 2:7 a living man is a soul.
Your claim not true.
Revelation 1:1,5-6 & 14:1-3, the Revelation given to Jesus is true. .

NWT is not based on the Vaticanus script. Bros, do your research & jakpa from FALSE claims .

U cudn't be more mistaken. I never make false claims. It is well known fact that the reclusive translators of NWT had lamentable understanding of d dead languages, were clowns in levels of Greek/Hebrew expertise. So wot they generally did was copy-copy the CONTROVERSIAL textual criticism work of Prof. Brooke Westcott and Prof. Fenton Hort. (WH-1881) and added Jehovah everywhere EL and YAH appeared so they cud boast about re-introducing the name of the most high back to the bible. Yet no single proof to show jehovah is the name of God and your beloved WH bible relied too heavily on the CODEX VATICANUS. Thats all i was saying in a nutshell. I have already laugh tire to all ur other doctrinal gymnastics it look like PONZI and i don know if i shud debunk dem. U guys are well packaged scam. Maybe i just reply copy and paste to match ur style.