orunto27:
And for been the first woman to speak with the devil., she was also for gross deceit., espionage and sabotage.

You do get the spirit!

Yes there must be espionage and sabotage for she did not just eat the fruit alone, she ensured that her husby must be there to eat.

So let us raise her charges

Count 21
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, did, Pass Along Private and Confidential Information to the Enemy of the Most High thereby Committing An Offence Contrary to the Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 22
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Extensively, Massively and Absolutely Sabotage the Good Works of The Most High thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

orunto27:
Apart from Adultery with the Serpent, She raped Adam bad.

We covered connection with the Serpent "Frolicking With The Enemy" but I do not think there was rape committed on her husband, but let me take a second opinion, Truespeak, any lawyer out there, do you think there could be a charge of rape upon her husband?

Dtruthspeaker:


We covered connection with the Serpent "Frolicking With The Enemy" but I do not think there was rape committed on her husband, but let me take a second opinion, Truespeak, any lawyer out there, do you think there could be a charge of rape upon her husband?

In my humble opinion, I do not see rape, thus, do not think so, but maybe orunto27 can offer up more facts with which to come to a judgement.

However, courtesy of his contribution, I can further see more offences expressed hereunder!

Count 23
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Consult with the Enemy of The Most High thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 24
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Betray and Breach the Trust of Adam thy husband in giving the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to him (Adam) to eat thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 25
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Give the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to thy husband, Adam to eat thereby bringing about his Death, thus Committing an Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

truespeak:


In my humble opinion, I do not see rape, thus, do not think so, but maybe orunto27 can offer up more facts with which to come to a judgement.

However, courtesy of his contribution, I can further see more offences expressed hereunder!

Count 23
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Consult with the Enemy of The Most High thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 24
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Betray and Breach the Trust of Adam thy husband in giving the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to him (Adam) to eat thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 25
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Give the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to thy husband, Adam to eat thereby bringing about his Death, thus Committing an Offence Contrary To The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Hmm! Her charges and their charges eh, it is overwhelming!

And if I did not appreciate it before, I just read A Statement of Law this evening which states

"The Greater the guilt, the more severe the Punishment"!

And,

"To be relieved of Guilt, is Great Solace!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcyBn_7Hcqs

Dtruthspeaker:


Hmm! Her charges and their charges eh, it is overwhelming!

And if I did not appreciate it before, I just read A Statement of Law this evening which states

"The Greater the guilt, the more severe the Punishment"!

And,

"To be relieved of Guilt, is Great Solace!"

Indeed, their Offences and Guilt is so Very Very Severe and Crushing!

Taking All this into Consideration and having read your Thread on the World Records they Accrued and Held, I now see and can say that "Nothingness", that is the Judgement, God Passed on them, is Mercy, Kindness and Greatly Good when Compared with the Great and Severe Weight of All Of their Offences.

truespeak:


Indeed, their Offences and Guilt is so Very Very Severe and Crushing!

Taking All this into Consideration and having read your Thread on the World Records they Accrued and Held, I now see and can say that "Nothingness", that is the Judgement, God Passed on them, is Mercy, Kindness and Greatly Good when Compared with the Great and Severe Weight of All Of their Offences.

True oh,: very True!

truespeak:


Indeed, their Offences and Guilt is so Very Very Severe and Crushing!

Taking All this into Consideration and having read your Thread on the World Records they Accrued and Held, I now see and can say that "Nothingness", that is the Judgement, God Passed on them, is Mercy, Kindness and Greatly Good when Compared with the Great and Severe Weight of All Of their Offences.

It's So True such that I felt that God's Judgement was kind of insufficient and Inadequate when compared to their Charges, the Number of Charges, the great gravity and impact of their Charges, the Severity of Each and Independent Charge, meen, dem still dey owe oh!

Demi never pay finish but anyway, No be me dem owe.

truespeak:


Indeed, their Offences and Guilt is so Very Very Severe and Crushing!

Taking All this into Consideration and having read your Thread on the World Records they Accrued and Held, I now see and can say that "Nothingness", that is the Judgement, God Passed on them, is Mercy, Kindness and Greatly Good when Compared with the Great and Severe Weight of All Of their Offences.

Na lie, when I rethink about it, they do owe me. They deprived me of my Right to Life and Eternal Sweet Life.

Anyway God took up the debt and returned it save that, where it was Automatic at birth before, Now One has to Make An Application to Obtain it while Fulfilling the Requirements for Due Consideration!

So I have no action against them neither can I maintain any against them!

Dtruthspeaker:


Na lie, when I rethink about it, they do owe me. They deprived me of my Right to Life and Eternal Sweet Life.

Anyway God took up the debt and returned it save that, where it was Automatic at birth before, Now One has to Make An Application to Obtain it while Fulfilling the Requirements for Due Consideration!

So I have no action against them neither can I maintain any against them!

True!

But they have Written their own Exams and have Received their Results (Judgement).

We are still Writing ours!

Let me look to my Papers!

I however, Thank God for the Privilege to have seen the Past Question Papers and Results of others before me!

truespeak:


True!

But they have Written their own Exams and have Received their Results (Judgement).

We are still Writing ours!

Let me look to my Papers!

I however, Thank God for the Privilege to have seen the Past Question Papers and Results of others before me!

Do not forget "not a jot or title"!

Dtruth, have you and I moved forward enough for this I wonder? Let me tell you a lie to see if you will confirm it.

You are not an Adam who just believes what you are told. If you are placed in the Garden of Eden and told not to eat a fruit of a tree of the knowledge of good and evil you will ask why because you seek the truth. You will be like Eve and pluck the fruit and eat it to test with your own senses for yourself if it is true that you will surely die on the day that you eat. If you eat it and you do not die on that day, you will not be like some who then redefine "die" and "that day" to mean something else especially if you find that on eating your eyes opened, you found you were naked and the fruit was good for gaining wisdom,and lived another 800 or so years and filled the earth with your descendants and eventually died at age 900+.

Tell me I have told a lie about you Dtruthspeaker. Tell me that the truth is you are Adam who walks past the tree of the fruit if the knowledge of good and evil without plucking its fruit to eat and therefore remain ignorant and enslaved and naked and dead.

I will of course argue otherwise because I think you are like Eve. Especially indicated in how you have defined "The Law", one of which states that "[url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+36%3A12%2CProverbs+5%3A23%2CProverbs+10%3A21%2CHosea+4%3A6&version=KJV]ignorance kills[/url]".

budaatum:

You are not an Adam who just believes what you are told. If you are placed in the Garden of Eden and told not to eat a fruit of a tree of the knowledge of good and evil you will ask why because you seek the truth.

The why was already told me, being Adam at the first, which is "you eat this wata-piapia, you die". Till today I have not eaten watapiapia.

It's as simple as that.

And of course, I did believe what I was told especially adverse tellings, so when I wanted to lick watapiapia and my mother screamed, I did not check whether what she said was true, I just obeyed and went in to my play and viola, I am still playing today.

So do I know if watapiapa kills? I still don't know!

Do I want to know if it kills as mummy said? I do not care, as long as mummy used the magic word "die", I was very happy to comply.

Same thing happened for electric iron and ah, my own disobedience, electricity! (Don't fall for this electricity disobedience, it's a snare against you)

It's as simple as that!

budaatum:

You will be like Eve and pluck the fruit and eat it to test with your own senses for yourself if it is true that you will surely die on the day that you eat.

Like I told you, even when I was young and void of intelligence, the word and warning of "Dyiing" did the magic of preventing me from finding out what watapiapia's "it would kill you oh" means.

You lie! It is not simple as that. It is so not simple as that that the light so shines but our blindness makes us see it not!

I put it to you that every day you eat fruits of knowledge of good and evil or you would be ignorant as fuq which you obviously are not.

I put it to you also that In the beginning was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was with God, and Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is not exactly God, but The same was in the beginning with God.

I insist dtruth, Ignorance kills. And you are capable of seeing beyond the letter and the words to see the Spirit, so long as you stop worshipping the idol!

See here.

Dtruthspeaker:


The why was already told me, being Adam at the first, which is "you eat this wata-piapia, you die". Till today I have not eaten watapiapia.

It's as simple as that.

And of course, I did believe what I was told especially adverse tellings, so when I wanted to lick watapiapia and my mother screamed, I did not check whether what she said was true, I just obeyed and went in to my play and viola, I am still playing today.

So do I know if watapiapa kills? I still don't know!

Do I want to know if it kills as mummy said? I do not care, as long as mummy used the magic word "die", I was very happy to comply.

Same thing happened for electric iron and ah, my own disobedience, electricity! (Don't fall for this electricity disobedience, it's a snare against you)

It's as simple as that!



Like I told you, even when I was young and void of intelligence, the word and warning of "Dyiing" did the magic of preventing me from finding out what watapiapia's "it would kill you oh" means.

budaatum:

I put it to you that every day you eat fruits of knowledge of good and evil or you would be ignorant as fuq which you obviously are not.

oh man

The issue is not whether I eat the fruit of knowledge of good and evil every day BUT as you put it, "You are not an Adam who just believes what you are told."

And I have shown that I am Adam safely living on what I was told, without checking what I was told

budaatum:

I put it to you also that In the beginning was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was with God, and Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is not exactly God, but The same was in the beginning with God.

Now you are writing your own book! Well, you are exercising your permission (Rights) to write your own book and put it to me has no effect.

budaatum:

I insist dtruth, Ignorance kills. And you are capable of seeing beyond the letter and the words to see the Spirit, so long as you stop worshipping the idol!

Now your departure continues to the destination of idol worship happy travels round the world as you run away from the Issue.

Dtruthspeaker:


oh man

The issue is not whether I eat the fruit of knowledge of good and evil every day BUT as you put it, "You are not an Adam who just believes what you are told."

And I have shown that I am Adam safely living on what I was told, without checking what I was told

Now you are writing your own book! Well, you are exercising your permission (Rights) to write your own book and put it to me has no effect.

Now your departure continues to the destination of idol worship happy travels round the world as you run away from the Issue.

May the Peace of the Lord minister to us so we evolve some more and can approach this topic with the insight it deserves.

Do note however that you do not know the truth until you ask and knock and seek with all your own heart and your own soul and your own mind and your own being, and that, dtruth, is The Law.

budaatum:


May the Peace of the Lord minister to us so we evolve some more and can approach this topic with the insight it deserves.

Do note however that you do not know the truth until you ask and knock and seek with all your own heart and your own soul and your own mind and your own being, and that, dtruth, is The Law.

That is the teaching for babes and toddlers and those who know not.

But when they are grown and filled with knowledge, then the teaching is

"My Son, Give Attention to My Words,
Incline your ears to my sayings!

Do not (Do not) let them from your eyes
Keep them in the midst of your heart.

For they are LIFE To Those who find them, and health to all their flesh
They are Life To Those who find them and health to all their flesh!"

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the teaching for babes and toddlers and those who know not.

But when they are grown and filled with knowledge, then the teaching is

"My Son, Give Attention to My Words,
Incline your ears to my sayings!

Do not (Do not) let them from your eyes
Keep them in the midst of your heart.

For they are LIFE To Those who find them, and health to all their flesh
They are Life To Those who find them and health to all their flesh!"

My Son. You will one day become a Father, note, and the Words will come from your mouth.

budaatum:
<sub>You lie! It is not simple as that. It is so not simple as that that the light so shines but our blindness makes us see it not!

I put it to you that every day you eat fruits of knowledge of good and evil or you would be ignorant as fuq which you obviously are not.

I put it to you also that In the beginning was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was with God, and Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is not exactly God, but The same was in the beginning with God.</sub>

I insist dtruth, Ignorance kills. And you are capable of seeing beyond the letter and the words to see the Spirit, so long as you stop worshipping the idol!

See here.

You are flattering him joor. How can he see when he "believes"before he" thinks"?

kkins25:
You are flattering him joor. How can he see when he "believes"before he" thinks"?

Naughty, lol!

He will think. My words are being written on his mind going buda buda as they slowly grow and will one day produce fruits.

budaatum:


My Son. You will one day become a Father, note, and the Words will come from your mouth.

I have received the blessings of being like the True and Real Father Most High and surely, All that I say here and more, come out of my mouth to enter the ears of the children given me.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have received the blessings of being like the True and Real Father Most High and surely, All that I say here and more, come out of my mouth to enter the ears of the children given me.

The ones you tell to obey you?

I see why you'd have conflict with free minded buda and use her own senses Eve.

budaatum:

The ones you tell to obey you?

I see why you'd have conflict with free minded buda and use her own senses Eve.

Nope!

I show them The Law, ask them to think about it, if it is reasonable and I go to the end to await and present Judgements based on The Law which I have shown them and that they Agreed was in perfect Order.

Exactly as God did to A & E.

Dtruthspeaker:
Nope!

I show them The Law, ask them to think about it, if it is reasonable and I go to the end to await and present Judgements based on The Law which I have shown them and that they Agreed was in perfect Order.

Exactly as God did to A & E.

You ask them to think about it dtruth? Would I be wrong to say, 'but you don't think about it', according to the following?

Dtruthspeaker:
And I have shown that I am Adam safely living on what I was told, without checking what I was told

Funny that you think "Exactly as God did to A & E". A thinking person would admit the truth is "according to how it is written in a book that God did to A & E", but you obviously dare not think to question what you read in a book, because you just be Adam "living on what [you] was told, without checking what [you] was told", unlike Eve who would rather use the God given senses that Jesus Christ undimmed to check for herself, as in ask and seek and knock with all my heart and soul and mind and being.

A thinking person would wonder for whom would the door be opened and who would receive and who would find, and would require of others what one requires of oneself, for [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207%3A7-12%2CLuke%2011%3A9-13&version=NIV]this sums up the Law and the Prophets[/url] for those who use their God given minds.

Or is it not so that which is written is to be understood by those who can think?

budaatum:

You ask them to think about it dtruth? Would I be wrong to say, 'but you don't think about it', according to the following?

Every one thinks, even a madman, but do they think properly and do they think well and is there thinking gainful?

Their fruits proof their thinkings!

So buda, I have shown you my thinkings and you could not validly counter them. So my thinkings are very much in other, but as a madman is entitled to his thinkings, good or bad, so do I, after the end of contention respect the right of my opponent to maintain his wrong thinkings.

Every soul thinks, but do they think well?
Examination Always shows the Answer and your examination, you could not impeach my thinking validly unless you ran away from the issue of changed your post.

Since you could not stick to the issue and give me an Answer without departing from the issue, there Is NO WAY YOU ARE RIGHT and that I should bow to your counsel.

Because All Rights Are Established by Valid Reasons and you have offered none which is capable of defeating mine!

So you waste your time trying to convince me, I can never be moved without a Valid Opposition!

budaatum:

A thinking person would wonder for whom would the door be opened and who would receive and who would find, and would require of others what one...

A Fool and a madman both think but as I said up there, THEIR ENDS prove which thinking is good!

You have a right to think foolishly and be married to Eve.

She did think and she did think she was right and she died foolishly with curses, both she and her husband with her.

Another man died with Blessings and A Covenant with a Promise of Life, I Choose to Follow that man.

You can choose to keep foolish arguments and Curses whilst I choose to Pursue Blessings, Covenant and Eternal Life!

Just so you know you've been noted.

The fruits shall be given time to ripen.

Dtruthspeaker:
Every one thinks, even a madman, but do they think properly and do they think well and is there thinking gainful?

Their fruits proof their thinkings!

So buda, I have shown you my thinkings and you could not validly counter them. So my thinkings are very much in other, but as a madman is entitled to his thinkings, good or bad, so do I, after the end of contention respect the right of my opponent to maintain his wrong thinkings.

Every soul thinks, but do they think well?
Examination Always shows the Answer and your examination, you could not impeach my thinking validly unless you ran away from the issue of changed your post.

Since you could not stick to the issue and give me an Answer without departing from the issue, there Is NO WAY YOU ARE RIGHT and that I should bow to your counsel.

Because All Rights Are Established by Valid Reasons and you have offered none which is capable of defeating mine!

So you waste your time trying to convince me, I can never be moved without a Valid Opposition!



A Fool and a madman both think but as I said up there, THEIR ENDS prove which thinking is good!

You have a right to think foolishly and be married to Eve.

She did think and she did think she was right and she died foolishly with curses, both she and her husband with her.

Another man died with Blessings and A Covenant with a Promise of Life, I Choose to Follow that man.

You can choose to keep foolish arguments and Curses whilst I choose to Pursue Blessings, Covenant and Eternal Life!

budaatum:
Just so you know you've been noted.

The fruits shall be given time to ripen.

Thank you, I always stand to be Validly Corrected!

budaatum:
Just so you know you've been noted.

The fruits shall be given time to ripen.

No Road! But do know I always stand to be Validly Corrected!

Dtruthspeaker:


No Road! But do know I always stand to be Validly Corrected!

Dtruth, please allow me.

You do not stand to be corrected at all. Any attempt to correct or even discuss with you is seen by you as invalid and lies because only you speak the truth, and according to you, the rest of us, or at least buda, can only speak lies.

You do not only not check your understanding of what you read in the book because you have such perfect belief in your own understanding, but you would not even bother considering the opinion of others, unless, I suppose, they are regurgitating that which you yourself have ordered that they obey.

I bet you would not consider a word I have written here because the mere fact that it is said by buda makes it all lies.

Confirm please.

budaatum:


Dtruth, please allow me.

You do not stand to be corrected at all. Any attempt to correct or even discuss with you is seen by you as invalid and lies because only you speak the truth, and according to you, the rest of us, or at least buda, can only speak lies.

You do not only not check your understanding of what you read in the book because you have such perfect belief in your own understanding, but you would not even bother considering the opinion of others, unless, I suppose, they are regurgitating that which you yourself have ordered that they obey.

I bet you would not consider a word I have written here because the mere fact that it is said by buda makes it all lies.

Confirm please.

Buda do not be unfair for this argument has proceeded this far because I read every word you said and I supplied my own responses to them.

Further, I gave you your due hearing and you made your case.

Then I pointed out the weakness and the unreasonablility of your case and you could not properly defend it, which is proven by the fact that rather than defend the issue on hand and supply a reasonable rebuttal, if you had any, as you usually do to others, you Abandoned it by Raising A Fresh Issue not in Focus thereby Changing your Post, which is why you throw away your case and your argument.

TRUTH IS ALWAYS ESTABLISHED BY FAIR, REASONABLE AND VALID ARGUMENTS!

And you have not given me The Truth for I Only Accept Properly Proven and Established Truths.

But I see you want another go at making your case so raise a thread for that purpose so that we could put aside the loss here and contend afresh on a clean slate!

Dtruthspeaker:


Buda do not be unfair for this argument has proceeded this far because I read every word you said and I supplied my own responses to them.

Further, I gave you your due hearing and you made your case.

Then I pointed out the weakness and the unreasonablility of your case and you could not properly defend it, which is proven by the fact that rather than defend the issue on hand and supply a reasonable rebuttal, if you had any, as you usually do to others, you Abandoned it by Raising A Fresh Issue not in Focus thereby Changing your Post, which is why you throw away your case and your argument.

TRUTH IS ALWAYS ESTABLISHED BY FAIR, REASONABLE AND VALID ARGUMENTS!

And you have not given me The Truth for I Only Accept Properly Proven and Established Truths.

But I see you want another go at making your case so raise a thread for that purpose so that we could put aside the loss here and contend afresh on a clean slate!

Oh, trust me that the case is as you yourself have filed in court against "use the senses" Eve in this very thread whom you have charged herein, so another thread is not needed as the jury too is here.

You the accuser after all, nor I in defense, can be the jury who gives "hearings" in our case before the judge. Or do you agree not that it is the jury and not you nor I who would give hearing and determine if our arguments are FAIR, REASONABLE AND VALID, and ESTABLISH the TRUTH?

Do know that as long as buda breathes, the defense of ask and knock and see with all her heart and soul and being and mind Eve is not in any way abandoned nor rested as you will in due time see.

The Lord God Almighty will grant you long life and patience till I rest. In the Name of Jesus Christ the Opener of the human senses and the Teacher of their use by the Word and the assistance of the Holy Spirit, I buda pray, Amen.