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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:12am On May 23, 2021
Abeg how old is zaha,I dont mind him at Chelsea next season, can't be worse than ziyech and pulisic or you guys should suggest wingers that can drive the ball better.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:24am On May 23, 2021
donjazet:


Mount has obvious potential and I believe that with time it will materialize. However, it hasn't. which is why it is illogical to have picked him as our player of the season. It makes the club appear mediocre, quite frankly.

It would have been better given to a defender or an attacker. Our defense have been the foundation for our "success" this season, not the attack. Which lends credence to the narrative that maybe mason mount is being overhyped. He's good but certainly not good enough to be considered Chelsea's best player throughout the season. That's a fallacy.

What spectacular thing did Matteo Kovacic do to deserve last season player of the year?
You hype what you have and clamour for him to improve on his overall performances.
This is the first time in a long while that Chelsea have players from the Academy impressing their coaches, and they deserve all the encomiums they can get .
We have been very wasteful in the past, on one season wonders like Bakayoko and Drinkwater, who cost fortunes in transfer fees and were very abject to watch. Did Havertz10 criticize these two like he does with Mason Mount?
He keeps ranting about his assists chart as if, this same lad is not amongst the top 10 chances creator in the EPL this season.
Why can't he pull the stick on Timo Werner, who missed 17 clear sitters in the EPL alone, out of which, half were from good goalscoring chances Mason Mount laid for him?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DammyOlu123(m): 10:56am On May 23, 2021
donjazet:


Mount has obvious potential and I believe that with time it will materialize. However, it hasn't. which is why it is illogical to have picked him as our player of the season. It makes the club appear mediocre, quite frankly.

It would have been better given to a defender or an attacker. Our defense have been the foundation for our "success" this season, not the attack. Which lends credence to the narrative that maybe mason mount is being overhyped. He's good but certainly not good enough to be considered Chelsea's best player throughout the season. That's a fallacy.

Who do you consider to be Chelsea's best player this season, and why, if you don't mind?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:57am On May 23, 2021
OJURONGBE1:


What spectacular thing did Matteo Kovacic do to deserve last season player of the year?
You hype what you have and clamour for him to improve on his overall performances.
This is the first time in a long while that Chelsea have players from the Academy impressing their coaches, and they deserve all the encomiums they can get .
We have been very wasteful in the past, on one season wonders like Bakayoko and Drinkwater, who cost fortunes in transfer fees and were very abject to watch. Did Havertz10 criticize these two like he does with Mason Mount?
He keeps ranting about his assists chart as if, this same lad is not amongst the top 10 chances creator in the EPL this season.
Why can't he pull the stick on Timo Werner, who missed 17 clear sitters in the EPL alone, out of which, half were from good goalscoring chances Mason Mount laid for him?
because I said I wouldn't talk again, all of una crawl out spreading una agenda, sentimental people

Mount provided half of timo big chance's missed cheesy

This lie too strong, chart below shows chances created vs quality of chance,

Mason mount creates the most chances but they aren't good chances, mostly corners and freekicks, you can't compare it to one on one or tap ins


That's why he isn't in the top 5 for quality of chance made, mount is not completely useless, his abilities will be useful in a mid table team but Chelsea shouldn't have that nonsense as a first team player, talkless of the star of the club, una no dey shame? Our highest goal scorer is a penalty kicker, isn't that one a big sign that the creative output of the team is poor?

Use ur head na, instead of una to face the issue, una go dey blame players for minor mistakes

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 11:26am On May 23, 2021
DammyOlu123:


Who do you consider to be Chelsea's best player this season, and why, if you don't mind?

Silva has been very good all season but had some minor injuries..

Ruediger turned a beast when Lampard left.

Azpi has been good too.

But the most consistent of them all is Mendy. He deserves it more than Mount could possibly dream of. Mount's stats is not by miles good enough for an attacker.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 11:29am On May 23, 2021
Havertz10:
because I said I wouldn't talk again, all of una crawl out spreading una agenda, sentimental people

Mount provided half of timo big chance's missed cheesy

This lie too strong, chart below shows chances created vs quality of chance,

Mason mount creates the most chances but they aren't good chances, mostly corners and freekicks, you can't compare it to one on one or tap ins


That's why he isn't in the top 5 for quality of chance made, mount is not completely useless, his abilities will be useful in a mid table team but Chelsea shouldn't have that nonsense as a first team player, talkless of the star of the club, una no dey shame? Our highest goal scorer is a penalty kicker, isn't that one a big sign that the creative output of the team is poor?

Use ur head na, instead of una to face the issue, una go dey blame players for minor mistakes
most of our players currently are Medicare from mount, pulisic( once in a blue moon player, ziyech and harvertz particularly. What is saving mount is that he did not cost d luck any dime
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:55am On May 23, 2021
Underrated Youngster smiley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NewDelhi(m): 12:19pm On May 23, 2021
popizaino:
Abeg how old is zaha,I dont mind him at Chelsea next season, can't be worse than ziyech and pulisic or you guys should suggest wingers that can drive the ball better.
You have data to type but you don't have data to do a simple check on zaha's age on Google.

Zaha is just a boisterous version of odoi. We don't need him.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 12:23pm On May 23, 2021
hensben:
Iniesta goals and assist were not great but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make his team better, same with Mount or you want to tell me you know football more than tuchel, Lampard and South Gate. Mata that have being chopping bench since his move to Man U. He only had one good season with us and in his career, in that season we finished 6th, if not that we won ucl it would’ve being a bad season. Mata is average in his primary duty.
What was/is Mata's primary duty?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:36pm On May 23, 2021
NewDelhi:

You have data to type but you don't have data to do a simple check on zaha's age on Google.

Zaha is just a boisterous version of odoi. We don't need him.

Thank you. Done already

He is 28years according to wiki, and I cant possibly think of any other winger that can wriggle his way out of difficult situations like zaha,so I want him even if it for 3years alone.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:37pm On May 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
What was/is Mata's primary duty?


grin grin grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 12:42pm On May 23, 2021
popizaino:



grin grin grin cheesy
I saw it at first and thought it was a one off but he repeated it again in another post...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Taguchi: 12:45pm On May 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
What was/is Mata's primary duty?

aswear the guy go just dey talk primary duty up and down, and never cares to tell us what the primary duty of a no 10 is .hesben matter dey tire pesin

primary duty ko
nursery duty ni undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:45pm On May 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
What was/is Mata's primary duty?
Work rate and orchestrating play from midfield to attack. With mata it’s like you are playing with 1 man down, mostly against a good side.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:47pm On May 23, 2021
Taguchi:


aswear the guy go just dey talk primary duty up and down, and never cares to tell us what the primary duty of a no 10 is .hesben matter dey tire pesin

primary duty ko
nursery duty ni undecided
Why is he always in the bench, even before leaving chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 12:49pm On May 23, 2021
hensben:
Work rate and orchestrating play from midfield to attack. With mata it’s like you are playing with 1 man down, mostly against a good side.
Mata's job is to link midfield and attack and create chances...He did that superbly...

As for work rate, talk to your DM and CM...Mata was exceptional.. Ozil wasn't exactly known for his work but his creativity and link up play, with such qualities, it's left for the coach to get others do the hard work.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:55pm On May 23, 2021
swiz123:


Silva has been very good all season but had some minor injuries..

Ruediger turned a beast when Lampard left.

Azpi has been good too.

But the most consistent of them all is Mendy. He deserves it more than Mount could possibly dream of. Mount's stats is not by miles good enough for an attacker.
Its not just stat alone. Statistically, which of our player is doing well offensively. Mount duty is split between midfield and attack. Defensively, he assist Kante and Jorginho/Kovacic same in offense and he has being mostly consistent in performance. Consistently, He has been the most outstanding player for us followed by mendy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 12:57pm On May 23, 2021
Havertz10:
because I said I wouldn't talk again, all of una crawl out spreading una agenda, sentimental people

Mount provided half of timo big chance's missed cheesy

This lie too strong, chart below shows chances created vs quality of chance,

Mason mount creates the most chances but they aren't good chances, mostly corners and freekicks, you can't compare it to one on one or tap ins


That's why he isn't in the top 5 for quality of chance made, mount is not completely useless, his abilities will be useful in a mid table team but Chelsea shouldn't have that nonsense as a first team player, talkless of the star of the club, una no dey shame? Our highest goal scorer is a penalty kicker, isn't that one a big sign that the creative output of the team is poor?

Use ur head na, instead of una to face the issue, una go dey blame players for minor mistakes


That's a lie. I don't know where you crop those biased stats from. I have watched games where this lad put a ball on a platter for Timo werner, only for him to squander it. Few of those games were against Liverpool (A) ,Fulham (H) and Westham(A).

And again, you said i blame players for minor mistakes? Timo Werner missing 17 clear cut chances is a minor mistake?

See, i have enjoyed and learn from few of your arguments here and i respected you for that, but on this Mason Mount issue, you're just deep seated with hate and act like an unruly dog whenever an argument about him springs up. Same with User09 & Swiz123.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 12:59pm On May 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
Mata's job is to link midfield and attack and create chances...He did that superbly...

As for work rate, talk to your DM and CM...Mata was exceptional.. Ozil wasn't exactly known for his work but his creativity and link up play, with such qualities, it's left for the coach to get others do the hard work.
Unfortunately, coaches don’t think like this. Mata is weak and easily dispossessed. Check every top team their AMF got work rate with or without the ball.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mecka: 12:59pm On May 23, 2021
francisgodstime:
most of our players currently are Medicare from mount, pulisic( once in a blue moon player, ziyech and harvertz particularly. What is saving mount is that he did not cost d luck any dime
This mount you people keep crucifying, according to some PL commentators he has been chelsea's best player so far this season pound for pound, and these are experts in the game that i believe know better.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:02pm On May 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
I saw it at first and thought it was a one off but he repeated it again in another post...


He is very consistent in saying rubbish.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 1:38pm On May 23, 2021
Mecka:
This mount you people keep crucifying, according to some PL commentators he has been chelsea's best player so far this season pound for pound, and these are experts in the game that i believe know better.

Biased EPL commentators.

Compare our previous best player Hazard with our current best player and see the kind of downgrade we are forced to swallow.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 1:49pm On May 23, 2021
Party fit shele today o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:59pm On May 23, 2021
Omo I really don't care who starts today, all I need is three points.

And I hope it won't have a nervy ending.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:05pm On May 23, 2021
swiz123:


Biased EPL commentators.

Compare our previous best player Hazard with our current best player and see the kind of downgrade we are forced to swallow.

Flawed reasoning.

Which player currently in Chelsea should we choose as best player that is not a downgrade to Hazard? Or you want us to suspend Player of The Year award till we get an upgrade to Hazard so as not to appear mediocre?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NewDelhi(m): 2:05pm On May 23, 2021
popizaino:


Thank you. Done already

He is 28years according to wiki, and I cant possibly think of any other winger that can wriggle his way out of difficult situations like zaha,so I want him even if it for 3years alone.
Zaha no be am at all. Zaha is just the energetic version of odoi. Odoi is even better in terms of passing , crossing etc
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:08pm On May 23, 2021
BlueMann:
Omo I really don't care who starts today, all I need is three points.

And I hope it won't have a nervy ending.

I'm more concerned about injury.

This kind match is dangerous. Villa fit frustrate us till 2nd half midway and TT will be forced to throw everything on them to secure the points thereby exposing key men to injuries.

I sincerely hope it doesn't get to that.

I don't think Villa is playing for anything. Europe maybe?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 2:09pm On May 23, 2021
NewDelhi:

Zaha no be am at all. Zaha is just the energetic version of odoi. Odoi is even better in terms of passing , crossing etc
Baba Odoi is not better than Zaha in anything. Where is the comparism even coming from?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:32pm On May 23, 2021
popizaino:



He is very consistent in saying rubbish.
Because you don't know football.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:33pm On May 23, 2021
timbros:


Flawed reasoning.

Which player currently in Chelsea should we choose as best player that is not a downgrade to Hazard? Or you want us to suspend Player of The Year award till we get an upgrade to Hazard so as not to appear mediocre?
And later they claim to know football.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 2:37pm On May 23, 2021
swiz123:


Biased EPL commentators.

Compare our previous best player Hazard with our current best player and see the kind of downgrade we are forced to swallow.
you didn't say this when kovacic won best player last season oo. It was even rival fans that was trolling you guys cos of that sef. Mount effect this season was better than Kovacic effect last season, but mount is antagonized but Kovacic wasn't. Wahala!!

Anyways, This season, to me, the best player ought to be Mendy, but top 2 for the Chelsea best is Mount and Mendy. Aside those 2, the rest players were either inconsistent, lost form or had injuries. No player was more consistent in Chelsea's team like those two

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:42pm On May 23, 2021
NewDelhi:

Zaha no be am at all. Zaha is just the energetic version of odoi. Odoi is even better in terms of passing , crossing etc

Ok ....but suggest any better player you know can dribble his way out to difficult situations and still retain his ball,cus we need them going forward. Although I dont rule out the need for a proper CF but if we dont get a good dribbler,that attack will be blunt for a proper CF to thrive in it.

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