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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 6:56pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:
Gives not actual information about the general standard of living.

It's no secret that igbos before the war occupied top positions in government just like the fulani's of today but that is not in anyway representative of the general living standards of igbos or fulani's..........the north has more billionaires but dangote's wealth isn't representative of the general standard of living in the north. The author of this book obviously wanted to paint the igbos in a very positive light......but since we're all wankking off to the "white man's" report below is a colonial report on the ethic make up prisons.... showing that igbos were predominantly jail birds, note that crime rates are usually higher amongst poor individuals, e.g black americans.

It could also mean that Igbos were less tolerant to crime and were more likely to report a crime than other ethnicities hence had more criminal elements incarcerated.

Little wonder the EASTERN region was the most peaceful region in Nigeria post independence leading up to Biafra war and remained the most peaceful region post 1999 until the Python dance and now UGM.

Number of people in prison doesn't necessarily represent crime rate. It could represent a better effective community policing capable of riding the society of criminal elements very quick and maintaining a relatively more peaceful region than others whose community policing is defective or culture is more tolerant of letting criminal elements stay free

Chew on this.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 6:59pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


It could also mean that Igbos were less tolerant to crime and were more likely to report a crime than other ethnicities and have the criminal elements incarcerated.

Little wonder the EASTERN region was the most peaceful region in Nigeria post independence leading up to Biafra war and remained the most peaceful region post 1999 until the Python dance and now UGM.

Number of people in prison doesn't necessarily represent crime rate. It could represent a better effective community policing capable of riding the society of criminal elements very quick and maintaining a relatively more peaceful region than others whose community policing is defective or culture is more tolerant of letting criminal elements flow.

Chew on this.

grin grin

I don't chew on bullshit......for a tribe that celebrates and gives chieftaincy titles to drug barons I find your excuse utterly fanciful and hilarious.

grin grin akata men are in american prisons because they were less tolerant to crime and were more likely to report a crime than other ethnicities and have the criminal elements incarcerated grin grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:01pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


grin grin

I don't chew on bullshit......for a tribe that celebrates and gives chieftaincy titles to drug barons I find your article utterly fanciful and hilarious.

Chew on that.

Lol!
You provided raw stat and gave it your own jaundiced interpretation.
I gave it a better interpretation using factors currently visible as a guide, and you are as expected already in pains.
Cry more.
https://www.nairaland.com/3664225/south-east-most-secure-geo-political-zone

You have a known drug Baron as your political Jagaban. You all bow down to him despite his dirty past, yet you have temerity to talk about Igbos who stone criminal elements like Ekweremmadu for feeding fat on public funds while people suffer in penury. grin

If we have Biafra, Ekweremmadu would be in Prison, if you have Odua, Tinubu would be a God.
And you wonder why our prisons had more people in them than yours? cheesy

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:04pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


Lol!
You provided raw stat and gave it your own jaundiced interpretation.
I gave it a better interpretation using factors currently visible as a guide, and you are as expected already in pains.
Cry more.
https://www.nairaland.com/3664225/south-east-most-secure-geo-political-zone


The facts currently visible shows that unlike the bullshit you wrote, igbos are drug peddling crime apologists with the highest drug pushers and criminals in Nigeria......we see how you guys celebrate crime. Stop bullshittin yourself. grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:07pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:



The facts currently visible shows that unlike the bullshit you wrote, igbos are drug peddling crime apologists with the highest drug pushers and criminals in Nigeria......we see how you guys celebrate crime. Stop bullshittin yourself. grin

Well, so far as you are not doing the drug peddling in our land, we can't stop you.
It's the duty of the countries they are domiciled in that has that obligation.

But in Yoruba land, a drug lord is a political point one well honoured by all and sundry, so bad that they think the whole country should accept a drug Baron as a president. grin

All available Stats show that SE has the lowest crime rate in Nigeria. cool

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Unik3030: 7:10pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


It could also mean that Igbos were less tolerant to crime and were more likely to report a crime than other ethnicities and have the criminal elements incarcerated.

Little wonder the EASTERN region was the most peaceful region in Nigeria post independence leading up to Biafra war and remained the most peaceful region post 1999 until the Python dance and now UGM.

Number of people in prison doesn't necessarily represent crime rate. It could represent a better effective community policing capable of riding the society of criminal elements very quick and maintaining a relatively more peaceful region than others whose community policing is defective or culture is more tolerant of letting criminal elements flow.

Chew on this.
I applauded u yesterday when u gave a detailed analysis of how to fight a war n your presented your analysis like a reasonable man should but here u are showing us how selectively reasonable u could be.

U brought the white man analysis of how u are the best to massage your ego n that of your tribesmen something we can relate to inferiority complex or unnecessary validation from people who don't care about u but when u were countered n presented with another white man analysis who paint u black,u are here trying to change the narrative n give excuses for yourself.

If your presentation is anything to go by that also justifies the fact that u are criminals too,since u so much love the white man validation.

U Igbos have something in common n I notice it's everyone of u,when a narrative favours u,u defend it to high heaven but when d table turns u lament.

An Igbo guy said Nnamdi Kanu is d only man in the world who has never lied n everything he said is truth n must b swallowed hook line n sinker.I told the guy Nnamdi Kanu also said 99.9% of Igbo women are prostitutes which include his mom n every Igbo lady we know n the guy started insulting me.

That's d hypocrisy of all Igbos,say yes when it favous u but scatter everything when tables turn

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:10pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


If we have Biafra, Ekweremmadu would be in Prison, if you have Odua, Tinubu would be a God.
And you wonder why our prisons had more people in them than yours? cheesy


You're not guilty of a crime until you're proven guilty by a court and appropriately sentenced for it, until tinubu is convicted and sentenced then he's still better than kuje alumni's like ozur kalu and the likes......not my business if a few Ipob thugs are harassing their leaders in germany.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:11pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


Well, so far as you are not doing the drug peddling in our land, we can't stop you.
It's the duty of the countries they are domiciled in that has that obligation.

But in Yoruba land, a drug lord is a political point one well honoured by all and sundry, so bad that they think the whole country should accept a drug Baron as a president. grin

All available Stats show that SE has the lowest crime rate in Nigeria. cool

All available stats show that 99% of Nigerians on death row for pushing coke in Asia are flatin0 Jews. grin grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by meolaniyi(m): 7:22pm On Jun 03, 2021
It's a fact that Nigeria is poor because of the way they killed merit for tribalism
Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:23pm On Jun 03, 2021
Unik3030:
I applauded u yesterday when u gave a detailed analysis of how to fight a war n your presented your analysis like a reasonable man should but here u are showing us how selectively reasonable u could be.

U brought the white man analysis of how u are the best to massage your ego n that of your tribesmen something we can relate to inferiority complex or unnecessary validation from people who don't care about u but when u were countered n presented with another white man analysis who paint u black,u are here trying to change the narrative n give excuses for yourself.

If your presentation is anything to go by that also justifies the fact that u are criminals too,since u so much love the white man validation.

U Igbos have something in common n I notice it's everyone of u,when a narrative favours u,u defend it to high heaven but when d table turns u lament.

An Igbo guy said Nnamdi Kanu is d only man in the world who has never lied n everything he said is truth n must b swallowed hook line n sinker.I told the guy Nnamdi Kanu also said 99.9% of Igbo women are prostitutes which include his mom n every Igbo lady we know n the guy started insulting me.

That's d hypocrisy of all Igbos,say yes when it favous u but scatter everything when tables turn

How exactly does number of prisoners of Igbo origin paint Igbo bad?

Are you okay at all?

The number of Igbo prisoners only represent the number of criminal caught. It can mean the East had a better policing than other regions whose system were poor and so couldn't rid their society of criminal elements.

Stats is one thing, interpretation is another thing.
You want to give the stat a negative interpretation while I gave it a rational positive interpretation. What is wrong with that?

Anenih the famous criminal was not Igbo, Oyenusi was not Igbo, Shina Rambo wasn't Igbo.
These were the three most notorious criminals in Nigerian history that received most media coverage.

You are the one with the hypocrisy.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:23pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


All available stats show that 99% of Nigerians on death row for pushing coke in Asia are flatin0 Jews. grin grin

Lol!
Yet we don't have a drug lord as our political leader. grin

You even have a drug lord as former senator, and thanks to Ambode, we know that his successor is a drug addict/lord too. grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:26pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


You're not guilty of a crime until you're proven guilty by a court and appropriately sentenced for it, until tinubu is convicted and sentenced then he's still better than kuje alumni's like ozur kalu and the likes......not my business if a few Ipob thugs are harassing their leaders in germany.

There are enough evidence of Tinubu drug history past. grin
http://saharareporters.com/2009/02/18/bola-tinubus-heroin-tainted-assets-forfeiture-judgement#.VLxWZQpyxfQ.facebook

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by omonnakoda: 7:30pm On Jun 03, 2021
horsepower102:


Notice how this statistics was collected by the British themselves because if it was igbos, they will accuse us of chest-beating.

The British Themselves?

Really?

What is the name of the British statistic collector?
What was the Methodology?


What date did he or she collect these statistics

Do you folk think you are dealing with illiterates?

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by owobokiri(m): 7:33pm On Jun 03, 2021
IGBOSON1:


Ironsi reminds me a bit of Zik and GEJ!
Lol
Ironsi was worse than those two..
The whole mess we find ourselves in today was his fault.
This guy was warned by senior igbo officers of an impending coup! Many times! But he will refer the officers to Gowon, who will later hide the issue. Appointed northern officers as his guards in the name of one Nigeria! Very very naive character! People blame Nzeogwu and Ojukwu a lot but the main culprit is Ironsi.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by omonnakoda: 7:33pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:
Paul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt:


" '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education.

Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965

Who is or was Paul Anber and why should we take his opinions seriously?

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:33pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:



The facts currently visible shows that unlike the bullshit you wrote, igbos are drug peddling crime apologists with the highest drug pushers and criminals in Nigeria......we see how you guys celebrate crime. Stop bullshittin yourself. grin

Here is a thread on crime rate in Nigeria by geopolitical zones.https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria
SW leads as expected. grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:34pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


There are enough evidence of Tinubu drug history past. grin
http://saharareporters.com/2009/02/18/bola-tinubus-heroin-tainted-assets-forfeiture-judgement#.VLxWZQpyxfQ.facebook

Evidence that can't get a conviction. You're as daft as a brick.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:35pm On Jun 03, 2021
omonnakoda:


Who is or was Paul Anber and why should we take his opinions seriously?

Who are you and why should you opinions matter? grin
Paul Abner have the sources of his stats.

I Know your pain is severe. Maybe you can log into your other(Johnsin97) moniker and wail properly.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:35pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


Here is a thread on crime rate in Nigeria by geopolitical zones.https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria
SW leads as expected. grin

Largely because we have more criminals migrating from their desolate eastern hellholes.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:37pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


Evidence that can't get a conviction. You're as daft as a brick.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

You can't run away from your shadow.

A drug Baron led race has no moral ground to speak on crime. grin

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:37pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


Who are you and why should you opinions matter? grin
Paul Abner have the sources of his stats.

I Know your pain is severe. Maybe you can log into your other(Johnsin97) moniker and wail properly.

The stats then show that you guys were jail birds. Jail is the natural habitat of the flatin0 male.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:39pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

You can't run away from your shadow.

A drug Baron led race has no moral ground to speak on crime. grin

Now you're just trolling, being ignorant and stupid.....like the organisms that birthed you. grin passed down stupidity.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by omonnakoda: 7:39pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


Who are you and why should you opinions matter? grin
Paul Abner have the sources of his stats.

I Know your pain is severe. Maybe you can log into your other(Johnsin97) moniker and wail properly.

I have not expressed any opinion just interrogating those that are put in the market before I buy
Give us the sources?

This is all a mixture of made up nonsense mixed with your opinions all reflecting a deep and profound sense of inferiority that needs expiation

It is pitiable that you have this unfortunate need.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 7:42pm On Jun 03, 2021
grin grin flatin0s are actually suffering from deep rooted inferiority complex....masked with agression and false ideas of grandeur.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by fozapi(m): 7:44pm On Jun 03, 2021
owobokiri:

Lol
Ironsi was worse than those two..
The whole mess we find ourselves in today was his fault.
This guy was warned by senior igbo officers of an impending coup! Many times! But he will refer the officers to Gowon, who will later hide the issue. Appointed northern officers as his guards in the name of one Nigeria! Very very naive character! People blame Nzeogwu and Ojukwu a lot but the main culprit is Ironsi.

same thing the one nigerian igbo are doing today,buhari can never make an igbo man his guard never

https://www.nairaland.com/6584026/20-pounds-igbos-know-yourself

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 7:46pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


The stats then show that you guys were jail birds. Jail is the natural habitat of the flatin0 male.

FBI most wanted list- Yorubas leads
EFCC most wanted list- Yorubas lead
International terrorist of Nigerian Origin who tried to hijack an airplanehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab Yoruba-Muslim grin
Highest crime rate region-SW
Region with drug Lords as leaders-SW
Region with jail birds as legend and premier- Awolowo a jail bird ( sentenced for financial misappropriation), still a Yoruba legend.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Yet a Yoruba can talk about crime? grin

In Igboland we catch criminals and put them in Prison.
We don't make them Jagaban or governors ( AMBODE told us a Yoruba governor is a drug addict/lord) grin

Nsogbu dikwa.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by fregeneh(m): 7:57pm On Jun 03, 2021
BKayy:
Till date people that share toilets with Neighbours in Lagos don't know that such thing is strange to 80% of Ndigbo that live in Igboland.
What we have in Igboland is class

So in Igbo each and have their own toilet?

Even in multinationals people share toilets

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by JohnSin97: 8:00pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


FBI most wanted list- Yorubas leads
EFCC most wanted list- Yorubas lead
International terrorist of Nigerian Origin who tried to hijack an airplanehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab Yoruba-Muslim grin
Highest crime rate region-SW
Region with drug Lords as leaders-SW
Region with jail birds as legend and premier- Awolowo a jail bird ( sentenced for financial misappropriation), still a Yoruba legend.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Yet a Yoruba can talk about crime? grin

In Igboland we catch criminals and put them in Prison.
We don't make them Jagaban or governors ( AMBODE told us a Yoruba governor is a drug addict/lord) grin

Nsogbu dikwa.

The guy who tried to hijack a plane is from northern nigeria and his father owns jaiz bank....I can see you're enjoying yourself in your ignorance and stupidity I'd leave you to it.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by fregeneh(m): 8:04pm On Jun 03, 2021
Ngorbungor:
The east is doing well, forget all this things your here from the West, North and the "our oyel people" Easterners at present have the largest human capital resources in Nigeria, Our people are allover the country in different field like education, aviation, banking, technology, entertainment, commerce etc. Which make others very uncomfortable "hate" because they can complete

It is good for one to console his/her self dear

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by Igboid: 8:07pm On Jun 03, 2021
JohnSin97:


The guy who tried to hijack a plane is from northern nigeria and his father owns jaiz bank....I can see you're enjoying yourself in your ignorance and stupidity I'd leave you to it.

Taa!
The guy is a Yoruba Muslim. grin
Don't deny one of your own.
I'm sure you are a Yoruba Muslim too.

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by fregeneh(m): 8:10pm On Jun 03, 2021
Igboid:


FBI most wanted list- Yorubas leads
EFCC most wanted list- Yorubas lead
International terrorist of Nigerian Origin who tried to hijack an airplanehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab Yoruba-Muslim grin
Highest crime rate region-SW
Region with drug Lords as leaders-SW
Region with jail birds as legend and premier- Awolowo a jail bird ( sentenced for financial misappropriation), still a Yoruba legend.

https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Yet a Yoruba can talk about crime? grin

In Igboland we catch criminals and put them in Prison.
We don't make them Jagaban or governors ( AMBODE told us a Yoruba governor is a drug addict/lord) grin

Nsogbu dikwa.

Igbo can only lead Nigeria in criminology make I no talk criminally

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Re: High Standard Of Living Of Igbos Before The Civil War by okigbojihad: 8:13pm On Jun 03, 2021
omonnakoda:


Who is or was Paul Anber and why should we take his opinions seriously?

go and die in pain.

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