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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Neimar: 10:03am On Jun 04, 2021
Penuelseun:
Yes you can, for let's say a 100ah battery and inverter excluding a solar panel

Solar panel would cost how much?
I need an estimate
To power bulb, TV and maybe laptop
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Penuelseun(m): 11:07am On Jun 04, 2021
Neimar:


Solar panel would cost how much?
I need an estimate
To power bulb, TV and maybe laptop
Budget like 170k for everything
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by sethtsadopp: 11:17am On Jun 04, 2021
olopan:
The 20 panels is just a start, minimum to charge your batteries alone, considering your loads you will need. More panels. -300W + will be better

If you haven't roof your house yet kindly consider a flat roof this will be better for a solar install.

And plan ahead of time to get your plans scalable and flexible (since your loads, are not properly define yet)

Well the roofing is not in my hands as it's a mini estate where we just buy. Attached is plan and 3D. The second one is mine. They are still at DPC and project should be ready to deliver by March/April next year so I'm trying to plan ahead. Is it possible to deduce how much Panels each tenant's roof can take from the attached plan/3D? Im interested in knowing. It's a flat hidden roof so i think that's good right?

For Load my rough Guess will be
2-3 Interver AC(1.5hp)
2-3 TV
3 standing FANs
1 Water Heater
All lightings
1 Fridge
1 Freezer.

My plan is to use appliances that are as low energy consuming as possible and this will be factored in as we do any purchase.

So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way? And how much should I budget for? I'd personally like to buy most of the things myself to save cost. I am already in talks with Felicity and BSLBATT. The former is cheaper but I'm concerned about quality as I'm getting divergent views.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 12:58pm On Jun 04, 2021
This I can tell you the plan looks good, I am interested to work with you on things

I will give you a better break down at a later time studying the information provided.

Stay tuned

sethtsadopp:

Well the roofing is not in my hands as it's a mini estate where we just buy. Attached is plan and 3D. The second one is mine. They are still at DPC and project should be ready to deliver by March/April next year so I'm trying to plan ahead. Is it possible to deduce how much Panels each tenant's roof can take from the attached plan/3D? Im interested in knowing. It's a flat hidden roof so i think that's good right?

For Load my rough Guess will be
2-3 Interver AC(1.5hp)
2-3 TV
3 standing FANs
1 Water Heater
All lightings
1 Fridge
1 Freezer.

My plan is to use appliances that are as low energy consuming as possible and this will be factored in as we do any purchase.

So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way? And how much should I budget for? I'd personally like to buy most of the things myself to save cost. I am already in talks with Felicity and BSLBATT. The former is cheaper but I'm concerned about quality as I'm getting divergent views.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tetralogyfallot(m): 1:30pm On Jun 04, 2021
soladavies:
Fairly used 1kva pure sine wave inverter needed
I have 1.5kva 24vdc pure sine wave. Location is kano
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 5:01pm On Jun 04, 2021
Replies are in Red below
kindly share your email or contact us via number on signature below, I will like to share with you a more detailed information, documents to fill as to arrive at a precise energy usage and see how we can help bring your ideas to actualization


sethtsadopp:

Well the roofing is not in my hands as it's a mini estate where we just buy. Attached is plan and 3D. The second one is mine. They are still at DPC and project should be ready to deliver by March/April next year so I'm trying to plan ahead. Is it possible to deduce how much Panels each tenant's roof can take from the attached plan/3D?
From a rough estimate each tenants roof apart from the far right apartment excluded should do ~ 11.88KWp /36 JA solar panels each but 40 Panels if others slack smiley

Im interested in knowing. It's a flat hidden roof so i think that's good right?

The flat roof is perfect as the panels layout will allow for the sun to pass over them daily and seasonally

For Load my rough Guess will be
2-3 Interver AC(1.5hp)
2-3 TV
3 standing FANs
1 Water Heater
All lightings
1 Fridge
1 Freezer.

Your loads based on assumptions is roughly 8KW at peak

My plan is to use appliances that are as low energy consuming as possible and this will be factored in as we do any purchase.
So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way?

20KWh ESS is preferred

And how much should I budget for?

5.5m without BOS or workmanship etc. ( completely offgrid)

I'd personally like to buy most of the things myself to save cost.

Your items can be bought locally by yourself as you local warranty

I am already in talks with Felicity and BSLBATT. The former is cheaper but I'm concerned about quality as I'm getting divergent views.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by EPOMA(m): 5:08pm On Jun 04, 2021
You can make this simple , with a 15KWH if you use 1Kiliwatts per hour , that means you will get 15 hours of electricity out of it .

For inverter aircon, they consume on average 500 watts per hour, If you run the 3 aircon , that will be 3 times 500 watts = 1500 watts per hour, soon a 15 kwh battery , you will get 10 hours of electricity.

If your fridge and freezer are inverter as well then you will use very minimal wattage about 130 watts for the 2.

I would advice to get a solar water heater

sethtsadopp:

Well the roofing is not in my hands as it's a mini estate where we just buy. Attached is plan and 3D. The second one is mine. They are still at DPC and project should be ready to deliver by March/April next year so I'm trying to plan ahead. Is it possible to deduce how much Panels each tenant's roof can take from the attached plan/3D? Im interested in knowing. It's a flat hidden roof so i think that's good right?

For Load my rough Guess will be
2-3 Interver AC(1.5hp)
2-3 TV
3 standing FANs
1 Water Heater
All lightings
1 Fridge
1 Freezer.

My plan is to use appliances that are as low energy consuming as possible and this will be factored in as we do any purchase.

So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way? And how much should I budget for? I'd personally like to buy most of the things myself to save cost. I am already in talks with Felicity and BSLBATT. The former is cheaper but I'm concerned about quality as I'm getting divergent views.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by RipVanWink: 7:19pm On Jun 04, 2021
earthrealm:


SINCE YOU PLAN TO BUY most items yourself, why not consider buying the lifepo4 cells from china and have someone build the pack for you for a small fee................or you buy the ready built packs by the guy in jos, his 48v 300ah pack was 1.5m last time i asked.

but buying the cells from china, you would spend about 90 to 130 usd per cell, ie 3.2v 280ah eve ,catl or rept cell, freight inclusive, so a 560ah 48v cell, made up of 32 pieces would gulp about 4k usd or less, which is real value for money. 29kwh!.

we wrapped up a group buy of almost 150 cells in april, and they are already enroute nigeria..hopefully july will make landfall in naija, you and likeminded souls could organize a similar group buy to save more cost..................forget about buying panels from china, its not worth it
good

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 7:21pm On Jun 04, 2021
sethtsadopp:

Well the roofing is not in my hands as it's a mini estate where we just buy. Attached is plan and 3D. The second one is mine. They are still at DPC and project should be ready to deliver by March/April next year so I'm trying to plan ahead. Is it possible to deduce how much Panels

So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way? And how much should I budget for? I'd personally like to buy most of the things myself to save cost. I am already in talks with Felicity and BSLBATT. The former is cheaper but I'm concerned about quality as I'm getting divergent views.

SINCE YOU PLAN TO BUY most items yourself, why not consider buying the lifepo4 cells from china and have someone build the pack for you for a small fee................or you buy the ready built packs by the guy in jos, his 48v 300ah pack was 1.5m last time i asked.

but buying the cells from china, you would spend about 90 to 130 usd per cell, ie 3.2v 280ah eve ,catl or rept cell, freight inclusive, so a 560ah 48v cell, made up of 32 pieces would gulp about 4k usd or less, which is real value for money. 29kwh!.

we wrapped up a group buy of almost 150 cells in april, and they are already enroute nigeria..hopefully july will make landfall in naija, you and likeminded souls could organize a similar group buy to save more cost..................forget about buying panels from china, its not worth it

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toluxa1(m): 11:27pm On Jun 04, 2021
NiyiOmoIyunade:

Already mounted a 300L solar water heater on the roof so hot water needs are covered.

Hi there. This Solar Water Heaters, how efficient/effective are they? How does it work, Is it direct sunlight that heats the water or there is some kind of electronic heating? What is the average temperature of hot water you get? Near boiling possible? Can you get hot water even at night?
Lastly what is the cost of the one you use?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eddyline(m): 2:20pm On Jun 05, 2021
earthrealm:


SINCE YOU PLAN TO BUY most items yourself, why not consider buying the lifepo4 cells from china and have someone build the pack for you for a small fee................or you buy the ready built packs by the guy in jos, his 48v 300ah pack was 1.5m last time i asked.

but buying the cells from china, you would spend about 90 to 130 usd per cell, ie 3.2v 280ah eve ,catl or rept cell, freight inclusive, so a 560ah 48v cell, made up of 32 pieces would gulp about 4k usd or less, which is real value for money. 29kwh!.

we wrapped up a group buy of almost 150 cells in april, and they are already enroute nigeria..hopefully july will make landfall in naija, you and likeminded souls could organize a similar group buy to save more cost..................forget about buying panels from china, its not worth it
Contact of the guy in Jos please
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by xfay(m): 9:39pm On Jun 05, 2021
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by abbeymighty(m): 11:29pm On Jun 05, 2021
This guy is tested ad trusted, I have given him an instslation in April , well executed. Patronised him
olopan:
This I can tell you the plan looks good, I am interested to work with you on things

I will give you a better break down at a later time studying the information provided.

Stay tuned

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 10:52am On Jun 06, 2021
Thanks brother, appreciate the review

Glad we could deliver the best for you.
abbeymighty:
This guy is tested ad trusted, I have given him an instslation in April , well executed. Patronised him
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by abbeymighty(m): 12:12pm On Jun 06, 2021
The client is appreciating it everyday good job :
olopan:
Thanks brother, appreciate the review

Glad we could deliver the best for you.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by All4good: 12:52pm On Jun 06, 2021
earthrealm:


but buying the cells from china, you would spend about 90 to 130 usd per cell, ie 3.2v 280ah eve ,catl or rept cell, freight inclusive, so a 560ah 48v cell, made up of 32 pieces would gulp about 4k usd or less, which is real value for money. 29kwh!.


Will the 560ah 48v cell, be suitable for a 24v mppt inverter.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by All4good: 1:48pm On Jun 06, 2021
sethtsadopp:
It's a flat hidden roof so i think that's good right?

The flatter the roof the better. A slight 10-20% inclination is desirable depending on your area.
However the "hidden" is a disadvantage, as the parapet will cast a shadow most hours of the day except at midday when the sun is directly above.
Also your building is skewed facing SW. But you want your Panels facing South for optimal results meaning your panel orientation will be skewed to your building when installed.
Lastly if your flat roof slopes to the back of your house, it means the direction of slope of your roof is counter to the desired inclination of your panels. So to install on that roof you need to design a platform for your panels with the desired inclination.




My plan is to use appliances that are as low energy consuming as possible and this will be factored in as we do any purchase.

On this you already got some decent advice/calculations from previous contributors. But let me add that you stick to 3-5w bulbs and for TV 25w or less. Also identify the actual wattage of the so called "inverter AC or heater". A heater is usually 1000w or higher, so what is the rating of the solar type. I would generally not use any appliance exceeding 80w on my inverter except when the sun is at its peak and my inverter on bypass .

So with all these, do you think a 15KWh - 20KWh LiFePO4 would go a long way? .

A battery assembly giving 500ah or higher is suitable for a monocrystalline 150w x4 panels installation

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toluxa1(m): 3:30pm On Jun 06, 2021
toluxa1:


Hi there. This Solar Water Heaters, how efficient/effective are they? How does it work, Is it direct sunlight that heats the water or there is some kind of electronic heating? What is the average temperature of hot water you get? Near boiling possible? Can you get hot water even at night?
Lastly what is the cost of the one you use?

Still awaiting reply to this.
cc GeorgeD1 NiyiOmoIyunade
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 3:34pm On Jun 06, 2021
All4good:
A battery assembly giving 500ah or higher is suitable for a monocrystalline 150w x4 panels installation
I agree on using low power appliances.

However the quoted portion is inaccurate. 150W x4 panels cannot replenish a 500AH battery even for a 12V setup.
Panels: 150W * 4 is 600W
Battery: 500AH * 12 is 6000Whr
It will take 10hrs of 100% solar conversion to refill it. For higher voltage setup, it will take even longer.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by sethtsadopp: 3:51pm On Jun 06, 2021
olopan:
Replies are in Red below
kindly share your email or contact us via number on signature below, I will like to share with you a more detailed information, documents to fill as to arrive at a precise energy usage and see how we can help bring your ideas to actualization



Thanks very much for your reply. I will reach out to you for further discussion (I am in Abuja though). By the way BSLBATT said they can give me the 20KWh (10KWh x 2 - in parallel) for about $3800. Fair price I think...? I don't think importing panels is worth it though, i have not done my calculations on that well. You mentioned JA.. they good? What do you think about the suggestion someone made on buying cells to assemble. I am particular about the high quality of the entire setup that's why I am skeptical about that.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 3:53pm On Jun 06, 2021
toluxa1:


Hi there. This Solar Water Heaters, how efficient/effective are they? How does it work, Is it direct sunlight that heats the water or there is some kind of electronic heating? What is the average temperature of hot water you get? Near boiling possible? Can you get hot water even at night?
Lastly what is the cost of the one you use?

solar water heaters are majorly of two types: the evacuated tube types and flat plate types.
evacuated tubes are more efficient compared to the flat plate types because they are in direct
contact with the water.
yes, direct sunlight heats the water and no form of electronic heating whatsoever is involved.
(although in a few cases like mine, there is provision for an electric heating coil which you can use
to assist in maintaining water temperature on cold days when the sun output is not that strong)
average temperature can range from anywhere around 50 degrees celcius up to 80 degrees c
depending on your setting and also the weather condition.
you can get hot water all through the day, even at night as the hot water tank serves as a reservoir,
keeping the water hot when the sun goes down.
as for cost, it varies with brand and capacity. but anything between 150k to 650k will do the trick.
it all depends on your pocket.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by sethtsadopp: 4:01pm On Jun 06, 2021
All4good:

On this you already got some decent advice/calculations from previous contributors. But let me add that you stick to 3-5w bulbs and for TV 25w or less. Also identify the actual wattage of the so called "inverter AC or heater". A heater is usually 1000w or higher, so what is the rating of the solar type. I would generally not use any appliance exceeding 80w on my inverter except when the sun is at its peak and my inverter on bypass .
Thanks very much for taking time to reply. @bolded.. really? But even inverter AC I believe is more than that. I am looking at a system on 15 - 20 KWh and the plan is to have at least 2 - 3 1.5HP AC on it.


The flatter the roof the better. A slight 10-20% inclination is desirable depending on your area.
However the "hidden" is a disadvantage, as the parapet will cast a shadow most hours of the day except at midday when the sun is directly above.
Also your building is skewed facing SW. But you want your Panels facing South for optimal results meaning your panel orientation will be skewed to your building when installed.
Lastly if your flat roof slopes to the back of your house, it means the direction of slope of your roof is counter to the desired inclination of your panels. So to install on that roof you need to design a platform for your panels with the desired inclination.

Hmm, quite true about the hidden roof. Though my own place is right at the middle of the structure (3rd House) so I am thinking it should have the least shadow impact. I may be wrong though, we will see how that goes.


A heater is usually 1000w or higher, so what is the rating of the solar type.
I do not think the Solar Water Heater uses any Power at all. This is why I have decided to go for Solar Water Heater. I believe the water is directly heated from the heat of the Sun and consumes zero electricity. That is my current understanding of it's operation sha.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 4:01pm On Jun 06, 2021
sethtsadopp:


Thanks very much for your reply. I will reach out to you for further discussion By the way BSLBATT said they can give me the 20KWh (10KWh x 2 - in parallel) for about $3800 What do you think about the suggestion someone made on buying cells to assemble. I am particular about the high quality of the entire setup that's why I am skeptical about that.
$2000 can get u 32pcs rept 230ah lifepo4 cells from China(24kwh) excluding sea shipping of around $200 with about 4 to 5 months wait.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 5:26pm On Jun 06, 2021
The price is fair, for some telecom battery in cabinet this was their quote, but yours I guess is wall mount/power wall

Getting panels locally is quite better, with warranty and any other unseen failure if any

JA panels are Good, new to the market but giving the good names a run, so I'd bet on it.

I believe the advise of DIY build is a good one, many users here run their system on them

1. The battery is direct from suppliers
2. You can add on it the BMS you like for your max. Power demand
3. You get to shave off extra cash and add to other items

Lastly! since you are skeptic, do your research properly, as there are many contributions already ... The time of install is still months away. Take your time and plan carefully.
sethtsadopp:


Thanks very much for your reply. I will reach out to you for further discussion (I am in Abuja though). By the way BSLBATT said they can give me the 20KWh (10KWh x 2 - in parallel) for about $3800. Fair price I think...? I don't think importing panels is worth it though, i have not done my calculations on that well. You mentioned JA.. they good? What do you think about the suggestion someone made on buying cells to assemble. I am particular about the high quality of the entire setup that's why I am skeptical about that.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:29pm On Jun 06, 2021
All4good:


Will the 560ah 48v cell, be suitable for a 24v mppt inverter.

That your psychic girlfriend was the best thing to come your way. Better go find her.

LOLZ @ gf
the cells usually come in 3.2v 40ah to 500ah, with 280ah being the favourite, for a 24v system, its just a simple matter of rearranging the cells into 4 sets of 8 cells, [8s4p] total of 32 pieces to give you same 29kwh. you can also do a single string of 8cells in series for a 7kwh bank
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:52pm On Jun 06, 2021
eddyline:

Contact of the guy in Jos please

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:20pm On Jun 06, 2021
eddyline:

Contact of the guy in Jos please

His contact details here:
https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/994#102090342
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