donstan18:

You made a good point, just like Harvertz, Dembele and Bakayoko were world class in the making before taking wrong moves.

My point will always remain that Dani became worldclass under Pep.

You are kinda right. But alvez was already good, he just move to a better club/team with good tactics that suit the players.

donstan18:

Be specific please.

Was KDB a world class player in Wolfsburg before joining ManCity?

I gave you reasons to counter your point on Alves being a nobody before he came to Barca you are telling me be specific and yes Kevin de bruyne was world class in Wolfsburg go and check how he tormented bayern under guardiola and his assist counts If he wasn't world class city wouldn't have paid over 50m euros for him, Was mbappe not also thought to be world class when he was in Monaco abi is it until you play for the bigger clubs you'll be regarded as such?

donstan18:

You made a good point, just like Harvertz, Dembele and Bakayoko were world class in the making before taking wrong moves.

My point will always remain that Dani became worldclass under Pep.

Why not like Lampard, Azpilicueta, Drogba who became world class after making the right moves.

Sounding so pessimistic just to accommodate mediocrity.

Kilishihunter:

I gave you reasons to counter your point on Alves being a nobody before he came to Barca you are telling me be Specific and yes Kevin de bruyne was world class in Wolfsburg Go and check how he tormented bayern under guardiola If he wasn't world class city wouldn't have paid over 50m euros for him

Maguire, Pepe, Kepa, Dembele, Morata and Harvertz were all world class before they became one of the costliest players in the world.

Una go dey, dey talk out of point.

donstan18:

Maguire, Pepe, Kepa, Dembele, Morata and Harvertz were all world class before they became one of the costliest players in the world.

Una go dey, dey talk out of point.

Alvez was very good, it seem you didn’t watch his last season with Sevilla. Sevilla won super cup, Europa cup and cola de Roy that season, they almost won la liga too.

swiz123:


Why not like Lampard, Azpilicueta, Drogba who became world class after making the right moves.

Sounding so pessimistic just to accommodate mediocrity.

I dey agree with you, but guilty conscience no gree you read with open mind.

Big club and good manager plays a vital role in making a player world class. You can’t be a world class player simply because you bossed a particular set of squad in a smaller team. Is this too difficult to understand??

James is mediocre until your Audio world class comes in and end up as “Harvertz”. Na when una eyes go clear

donstan18:

Maguire, Pepe, Kepa, Dembele, Morata and Harvertz were all world class before they became one of the costliest players in the world.

Una go dey, dey talk out of point.

Who would pay that much for any of those players in 2015. You dey talk out of point

donstan18:

Maguire, Pepe, Kepa, Dembele, Morata and Harvertz were all world class before they became one of the costliest players in the world.

Una go dey, dey talk out of point.

How many players were they buying over 50m in 2015? Nigga was the main man even ahead of attackers, Broke the German assists record and was the German player of the year ahead of both bayern and Dortmund players

hensben:
Alvez was very good, it seem you didn’t watch his last season with Sevilla. Sevilla won super cup, Europa cup and cola de Roy that season, they almost won la liga too.

From what position in the table?

World class - always causing problems since 1863.

swiz123:


Who would pay that much for any of those players in 2015. You dey talk out of point

How much was Mangala signed?

hensben:
Hakimi is better than James with what I have seen so far. If he will come good in epl and for chelsea that I can really be 100 percent sure.

Hakimi is far better than James ,both players should not be on the same sentence

Kilishihunter:

How many players were they buying over 50m in 2015? Nigga was the main man even ahead of attackers, Broke the German assists record and was the German player of the year ahead of both bayern and Dortmund players

Mangala was a world class player before City signed him, yea??

hensben:
Alvez was very good, it seem you didn’t watch his last season with Sevilla. Sevilla won super cup, Europa cup and cola de Roy that season, they almost won la liga too.

You know weda e don Dey watch ball by then ?

airmark:
World class - always causing problems since 1863.

Is hummels a world Class player ?

donstan18:

I dey agree with you, but guilty conscience no gree you read with open mind.

Big club and good manager plays a vital role in making a player world class. You can’t be a world class player simply because you bossed a particular set of squad in a smaller team. Is this too difficult to understand??

James is mediocre until your Audio world class comes in and end up as “Harvertz”. Na when una eyes go clear

Players command high transfer fees for a number of reasons amongst which are the players performance and length of contract. Havertz last season for Leverkusen was miles better than Mounts season under Lampard. Fact is, Havertz has always been in the news for the right reasons long before your favorite player. You don't expect Real Madrid or Barca to have interest in someone like Mount when he was at Derby County.

Whatever you choose to make of a kid's first season in a foreign land is entirely your business. When we were clamouring for that dunce Lampard to be sacked, some sentimental fans here started making excuses for him; you even went as far as hating on TT for making your British Lord jobless.

History is trying to repeat itself and you want us to miss out on an obvious improvement in that RWB position just for us to keep the position secure for your British clown

donstan18:

Mangala was a world class player before City signed him, yea??

What's my own with mangala, I thought you were talking about Alves and de bruyne not being elite, Why all these amalability now? Oga no dey shift posts abeg

swiz123:


Players command high transfer fees for a number of reasons amongst which are the players performance and length of contract. Havertz last season for Leverkusen was miles better than Mounts season under Lampard. Fact is, Havertz has always been in the news for the right reasons long before your favorite player. You don't expect Real Madrid or Barca to have interest in someone like Mount when he was at Derby County.

Whatever you choose to make of a kid's first season in a foreign land is entirely your business. When we were clamouring for that dunce Lampard to be sacked, some sentimental fans here started making excuses for him; you even went as far as hating on TT for making your British Lord jobless.

History is trying to repeat itself and you want us to miss out on an obvious improvement in that RWB position just for us to keep the position secure for your British clown

Why did Chelsea not give Kepa, Bakayoko, Morata and Pato good years to prove themselves since they were new to a “Foreign land”...?

donstan18:

How much was Mangala signed?

How much was he signed?

Kepa cost more than twice of his fee

Kilishihunter:

What's my own with mangala, I thought you were talking about Alves and de bruyne not being world class Why all these amalability now? Oga no dey shift posts abeg

This you below using price tag as a reason to call KDB world class player in Wolfsburg.

Kilishihunter:

How many players were they buying over 50m in 2015? Nigga was the main man even ahead of attackers, Broke the German assists record and was the German player of the year ahead of both bayern and Dortmund players

Using your logic, below are my questions...

Mangala broke the costliest defender record in 2014!

Maguire broke the same.

Were they world class players before breaking that record?

swiz123:


How much was he signed?

Kepa cost more than twice of his fee

This you using price tag to call KDB world class in Wolfsburg.

swiz123:


Who would pay that much for any of those players in 2015. You dey talk out of point

Was Mangala a world class player when he broke this record?

swiz123:


Players command high transfer fees for a number of reasons amongst which are the players performance and length of contract. Havertz last season for Leverkusen was miles better than Mounts season under Lampard. Fact is, Havertz has always been in the news for the right reasons long before your favorite player. You don't expect Real Madrid or Barca to have interest in someone like Mount when he was at Derby County.

Whatever you choose to make of a kid's first season in a foreign land is entirely your business. When we were clamouring for that dunce Lampard to be sacked, some sentimental fans here started making excuses for him; you even went as far as hating on TT for making your British Lord jobless.

History is trying to repeat itself and you want us to miss out on an obvious improvement in that RWB position just for us to keep the position secure for your British clown

if not for transfer ban and lampard bias

Mount would still be on loan

Havertz earned his way

He wasn't gifted anything, he was already going to be a star, guy was staring and captaining his club side at 20

Top clubs were lining up to get him, you want to compare him to mount that was gifted his place, the world knew havertz at 19, he was called a prodigy

Nobody knew mount till lampard forced him on the team


Mount and havertz aren't mates talent wise on any level

donstan18:

This you below using price tag as a reason to call KDB world class player in Wolfsburg.



Using your logic, below are my questions...

Mangala broke the costliest defender record in 2014!

Maguire broke the same.

Were they world class players before breaking that record?

So why didn't you highlight the rest of the other stuff I typed in your second quote alongside his price Abi you didn't see it , You used your logic not mine abeg

donstan18:

Why did Chelsea not give Kepa, Bakayoko, Morata and Pato good years to prove themselves since they were new to a “Foreign land”...?

Forgive me for not remembering much about Morata prior to his Chelsea move especially considering the fact that he spent his last season at Madrid cheerleading the squad.

Is it even permissible to compare a goalie and an attacking player considering how vital their loss of form could be to the team.

I don't know for you, but I always knew that Bakayoko was a callous slowpoke especially after I did an eye test on him vs Man City..

Are you drunk? Why will you compare an out of form 27 year old loanie to a 21 year old boy?

Bro rest and come back with a stronger arguement.

If we adopt your gloomy approach to transfers, we wouldn't have had Hazard

Kilishihunter:

So why didn't you highlight the rest of the other stuff I typed in your second quote alongside his price Abi you didn't see it

I said Alves became world class player under Pep.

Some argued against it that he was World class in Sevilla which made me use a world class KDB as an example to ask if he was world class player when he was in Wolfsburg, you replied using his price tag as your backup point.

I then used Mangala and Maguire to counter your price tag point, na em you dey talk say I leave other things dey highlight price.

Abi the Mangala and Maguire question choke you??

Kilishihunter:

I gave you reasons to counter your point on Alves being a nobody before he came to Barca you are telling me be specific and yes Kevin de bruyne was world class in Wolfsburg go and check how he tormented bayern under guardiola and his assist counts If he wasn't world class city wouldn't have paid over 50m euros for him, Was mbappe not also thought to be world class when he was in Monaco abi is it until you play for the bigger clubs you'll be regarded as such?

Bros calm down.
Because mbappe is shining presently and he lived up to the billing doesn't mean he was world class while at Monaco. I'm sure if dembele shine consistently at barca, you would have told us how he was world class at Dortmund too
Even kdb wasn't world class at Wolfsburg.

Make we caution dey call players world class biko

swiz123:


Forgive me for not remembering much about Morata prior to his Chelsea move especially considering the fact that he spent his last season at Madrid cheerleading the squad.

Is it even permissible to compare a goalie and an attacking player considering how vital their loss of form could be to the team.

I don't know for you, but I always knew that Bakayoko was a callous slowpoke especially after I did an eye test on him vs Man City..

Are you drunk? Why will you compare an out of form 27 year old loanie to a 21 year old boy?

Bro rest and come back with a stronger arguement.

If we adopt your gloomy approach to transfers, we wouldn't have had Hazard

Just like you’ve tried to avoid taking blames, do you know that someone is somewhere waiting just like you to say that he knew Hakimi was bad when he did an eye test on him against Atlanta?

If as a Chelsea fan, you don’t know the importance of keeping calm over new signings, then I’m sorry you’ll always be a subject of mockery because the Chelsea I know can make anyone look useless.

Jodera:
Bros calm down.
Because mbappe is shining presently and he lived up to the billing doesn't mean he was world class while at Monaco. I'm sure if dembele shine consistently at barca, you would have told us how he was world class at Dortmund too
Even kdb wasn't world class at Wolfsburg.

Make we caution dey call players world class biko

Na so them go dey talk rubbish!

God bless you for the bolded!!

donstan18:

I said Alves became world class player under Pep.

Some argued against it that he was World class in Sevilla which made me use a world class KDB as an example to ask if he was world class player when he was in Wolfsburg, you replied using his price tag as your backup point.

I then used Mangala and Maguire to counter your price tag point, na em you dey talk say I leave other things dey highlight price.

Abi the Mangala and Maguire question choke you??

No post shifting on this one

Kilishihunter:

How many players were they buying over 50m in 2015? Nigga was the main man even ahead of attackers, Broke the German assists record and was the German player of the year ahead of both bayern and Dortmund players

donstan18:

This you using price tag to call KDB world class in Wolfsburg.

Was Mangala a world class player when he broke this record?

Are you mistaking me for someone else? Who called KDB world class because of his transfer fee?

No Chelsea Midfielder had a better season than KDB prior to his move to City... He was just like Mbappe at Monaco and just like the latter, his class was there for all to see. So my guy, there is no universally defined criteria used to arrive at who is world class and who isn't. Is it sometimes a subjective opinion

Kilishihunter:

No post shifting on this one

Mangala and Maguire were world class players before breaking the transfer records they broke.

swiz123:


Are you mistaking me for someone else? Who called KDB world class because of his transfer fee?

No Chelsea Midfielder had a better season than KDB prior to his move to City... He was just like Mbappe at Monaco and just like the latter, his class was there for all to see. So my guy, there is no universally defined criteria used to arrive at who is world class and who isn't. Is it sometimes a subjective opinion

So you knew this yet came to counter my stance on Alves of Sevilla and Hakimi not being worldclass they tried placing them?