mirinder:
what if he plays for boca juniors, river plate, flamengo, corinthians, sao paulo palmeiras, zamalek, al ahly

Jodera:
In football, you don't use just one season to grade a player world class. He shone at Monaco, but he didn't produce world class displays as normal world class players. He scored 15 goals in the league and 6 goals in UCL.
Now that's enviable for a teenager, but is that world class? No.
Even if he did score say 30goals each in both competition, will he still be world class? No. Reason is because he will need to produce similar performances in more seasons to come and at top competitions to be regarded as a world class player. Else he'll just be a one season wonder.

I believe elite player and world class players are two different things.
And yes, for you to become a world class player, you need to be playing in the biggest available competition (meaning you need to be at a top club) and also winning the biggest trophies available(tho not a must to win all, but if you win all it helps), while displaying top class performances consistently.

There's a reason nobody send immobile even as he won the golden boot above them messi and Ronaldo. And even if he does it again, nobody go still send am till he goes to a big club and replicate such achievement

izzou:
Donstan said Tuchel won't come good. He later proved him wrong

Donstan is saying Hakimi won't come good.

Typing....

izzou:




Haaland ticks all these boxes, except the fact that he doesn't play for a World class club.

So what category does he fall under, sir?

izzou:
Donstan said Tuchel won't come good. He later proved him wrong

Donstan is saying Hakimi won't come good.

Typing....

swiz123:


Gotze was a good player who was dented by that horrible injury. However, Lewandowski was the best player during that era at Dortmund. Gotze had the chance of becoming a world class player which he wasn't at that time.

I don't know why you are asking me this but have it in mind that there have been world class players who later lost their groove... A certain Shevchenko and Torres comes to mind.

donstan18:

Tuchel got sacked twice in 4 years, bottled up Ucl finals with Neymar and Mbappe, had no major trophy to his name not until he joined Ligue1 with PSG. When talking about elite managers here, hardly will anyone call his name. He was shiit before coming to Chelsea, he had a bad profile stat, so it was justified for me not to like it when he was appointed.

Mou won 3 Epl for Chelsea.
Conte never went a season without winning something in Chelsea.
Di Matteo won Chelsea’s most memorable trophy.
Sarri brought good possession football and trophy to Chelsea system.

I can go on and on and on. How did they end up in Chelsea??

Let’s enjoy TT’s moment while it last because we all know what will happen next when he starts fvckin up!!!

Jodera:
In football, you don't use just one season to grade a player world class. He shone at Monaco, but he didn't produce world class displays as normal world class players. He scored 15 goals in the league and 6 goals in UCL.
Now that's enviable for a teenager, but is that world class? No.
Even if he did score say 30goals each in both competition, will he still be world class? No. Reason is because he will need to produce similar performances in more seasons to come and at top competitions to be regarded as a world class player. Else he'll just be a one season wonder.

I believe elite player and world class players are two different things.
And yes, for you to become a world class player, you need to be playing in the biggest available competition (meaning you need to be at a top club) and also winning the biggest trophies available(tho not a must to win all, but if you win all it helps), while displaying top class performances consistently.

There's a reason nobody send immobile even as he won the golden boot above them messi and Ronaldo. And even if he does it again, nobody go still send am till he goes to a big club and replicate such achievement

BlueAngel444:
Age does not determine a world class player, club doesn't. What determines a world class player is performance and global recognition.

andrewbaba44:


Jamie vardy doesn’t play for a big club

Or is Leicester a big club ? Won’t you regard vardy as a world class striker ?

Who told you Kane is not having accolades outside England when it’s clear he is the best striker there

We don’t even have many world class strikers in epl top teams anymore

andrewbaba44:


Hakimi is far better than James ,both players should not be on the same sentence

donstan18:

Be shut!!!

Alves became world class under Pep, you people should stop embarrassing yourselves all in the name of sounding ancestral.

Jodera:
Top/Elite player.

Kilishihunter:

Buffon at Parma was already listed as one of the best goalkeepers in the world before he moved to Juve, Haaland at RB Salzburg not even Dortmund yet was being listed among the best players in the world (though mostly due to his UCL goals), mbappe had already burst on to the scene in France and was being talked about when he broke Henry's record the season before the ligue 1 title, Messi at 19 was also regarded as a world beater even though Ronaldinho was still the main man Bro top clubs are the ultimum for almost every player like you said but if you are good, a visible shining light among your teammates and your performances are glearing You'll be regarded as such bro Even if you are the 30th best player in the world, Kane hasn't won a goddamn spoon with totenham so you'll now tell me he isn't world class too?

BlueMann:


Oga chill Jare, which one is thereby shouldn't be in the same sentence?

Hakimi is better than James, leave am for there. He trumps James in offensive productivity but asides that, there isn't any other area where be completely best James. James even had the edge in a couple of areas.

Kilishihunter:

You've just said all I've been trying to explain in a few words, Thank you

Jodera:
Vardy world class striker or player ke?
Vardy is a very good player.
World class? No!

Kane is an EPL great, but until he starts doing it in top European competitions,(UCL), then he'll just remain that - An EPL great.
Either he performs consistently at a top club or he turns spurs to a top club.
Simple.

No world class player stays at mid table club

andrewbaba44:


Chill Wetin

James and hakimi should not be on the same sentence abeg ,when James begin play top football ,because Chelsea win champions league you wan Dey disrespect some players

Jodera:
One thing is, world class players will always be regarded as a world class player even if he loses his groove, cos class is permanent.
Even if messi and Ronaldo flopped at age 28, that doesn't stop them from becoming world class. Same as ronaldinho.
Shevchenko was a world class player... He flopping at Chelsea doesn't tarnish his image cos he's already a world class, same way dinho subpar display at Milan didn't tarnish his world class status

Kilishihunter:

Buffon at Parma was already listed as one of the best goalkeepers in the world before he moved to Juve, Haaland at RB Salzburg not even Dortmund yet was being listed among the best players in the world (though mostly due to his UCL goals), mbappe had already burst on to the scene in France and was being talked about when he broke Henry's record the season before the ligue 1 title, Messi at 19 was also regarded as a world beater even though Ronaldinho was still the main man Bro top clubs are the ultimum for almost every player like you said but if you are good, a visible shining light among your teammates and your performances are glearing You'll be regarded as such bro Even if you are the 30th best player in the world, Kane hasn't won a goddamn spoon with totenham so you'll now tell me he isn't world class too?

izzou:


The UCL is a stage for world class teams, so we should expect world class strikers to be there

If you don't mind, can we see the stats of the World class strikers to that of this Top/Elite player (Haaland)?

If you don't mind ..

DumaEmpire:
Retire and sit down at home doing what??

Life is full of risk. He's not the first player to have an issue. And if the doctor has cleared him to continue the game then why shouldn't he.
Abi na you wan train him Children and provide for his family?

Jodera:

Simple question...
Would halaand have made waves if he hadn't moved to Dortmund?
So you think his Salzburg exploits be enough to rank him as one of the best players in the world?
I laugh

Jodera:
Vardy world class striker or player ke?
Vardy is a very good player.
World class? No!

Kane is an EPL great, but until he starts doing it in top European competitions,(UCL), then he'll just remain that - An EPL great.
Either he performs consistently at a top club or he turns spurs to a top club.
Simple.

No world class player stays at mid table club

Jodera:
Actually, Aside Suarez of athletico and lewy, there's dearth of world class strikers. Big Benz might be arguable

So no, aside Suarez and lewy(off my head), no world class striker in this just concluded UCL.

Jodera:
Facts!
I don't know how this is hard for people to understand. You can't be in an average club and claim world class player. Never!!
You might be a good player, top player, but never a world class player.

For example, If grealish like let him display world class plays from now till 2040, if he doesn't move away from Aston villa, he'll just be another good English player. Simple.

Nobody becomes a world class player by being in average club.

There's a reason why Kane is not having much accolades outside England and why he's mostly not tagged along most world class strikers even with all his world class displays.

BlueMann:


So mentioning James and Hakimi in the same sentence is a disrespect to Hakimi?

Jesus I have heard it all

BlueMann:


So mentioning James and Hakimi in the same sentence is a disrespect to Hakimi?

Jesus I have heard it all

Jodera:
Top/Elite player.

BlueMann:


So mentioning James and Hakimi in the same sentence is a disrespect to Hakimi?

Jesus I have heard it all