Hyerin:


And you know this how? Women aren't a monolith

I think you lot fail to take into account female socialization and social conditioning while espousing these views. I'm not here to argue but it's quite interesting you all have such a simplified way of looking at things which ultimately boils down to sex and gender relations and never something productive.

TheUndercover:

With human in general, nothing is carved on stone. People change and feelings also change. But it's better for a man to be the cause of that 'awakening' in his woman than any external factors.

MJBOLT:

TheUndercover:

With human in general, nothing is carved on stone. People change and feelings also change. But it's better for a man to be the cause of that 'awakening' in his woman than any external factors.

So would you rather go for an 'experienced' woman then, or a girl in her pristine state, since she might one day experience a 'rude awakening' as you've said?

Belafonte:


A growing? Lol. You're, at least, 6 years too late .

Btw, where you see incel, men of value see awakened men. Is all a matter of perspective

Illumined939:
The pristine girl, but with an understanding that it could go south. My point is, people mustn't think the redpill is ultimately perfection.

TheUndercover:


Of course, nothing is certain in life. Anything can go south at anytime. The goal of the redpill is to make you become aware of this, so when such thing happens, it won't catch you unaware.

MJBOLT:

Belafonte:


There's a massive world of difference between providing a woman's needs and being a slave to her materialistic appetite.

No human being can have all their needs met. Even the women who work cannot meet all of their own needs, hence the need to augment with provider males'.

In fact, to follow the logical path of your question, why should we stop working women with husbands from dating other married men as far as those other men also contribute in meeting their needs.

Contentment and a strong sense of self is a trait every man looking to marry must vet for in a woman. You will never have every single need met, but the basics can be met. A worthy women understands her man's limits and is satisfied within what he can provide without resentment towards forfeiting opportunity costs.

TheUndercover:

First of all, we should understand that the primary job of a woman is her matrimonial home, anything else is secondary. Also, every man wants peace of mind either in a relationship/marriage and their heart will always gravitate towards what provides this. This is why some men love spending more time with friends in beer parlours than at home with family simply because they are avoiding their wife's troubles.

A woman's value is not necessarily money, if she is lazy, experienced, materialistic, not appreciative, always nagging, not family oriented, not submissive, can't cook, etcetera, then she's a liability and doesn't have anything to offer. If a man can have peace of mind in a particular relationship, he might not worry about the woman offering financial assistance. Men don't want to be with a woman that will make him pass through another phase of stress after getting home from work.

If at all a job was provided for her by the husband, the job shouldn't affect how she runs her matrimonial home. Her main job is her home, the husband, and the kids, anything else is secondary. If a woman can provide this, then she's of value. Men who doesn't want their women working knows that they have to provide the basic amenities she needs and that of the house.

I stand to be corrected though.

Carsons:

There should be another term for this; this is an embarrassment to simping.
Perhaps, he's on another level of simping

Belafonte:


So, pray tell, and I mean this honestly. What do you look for in a man? What qualities would your ideal man have that are different from what I wrote earlier?

Azurevermillion:
Maybe he's impotent .

Ikillbrokehoes:
Who's this nigga? if you can't follow the rules here, you can use the exit door

TheDarkGamer:
From an Objective point of view:
If we do not want our women to work or have jobs, why do we still complain about them asking for money? I mean, it is only fair if as a man, you do not want your partner/wife to bear any financial responsibility, then you should be able to provide her needs and wants since she would have been able to do so if she had a steady stream of income.
However, some men say they don't want their women working, but they don't want to provide the woman wants. Isn't that having double standards?
I may be wrong in my assertions but I was just thinking about this, and I need clarification.

Carsons:

Even if he is, where's the dignity?

Nezzjnr:
Wetin be this

Zabiboy:

I also have this thought too man...
Personally, i think it's Relative.. everyone has something they want in their own woman/wife
Funny enough for me( not interested in marriage or relationship shit), "submissiveness" doesn't seem to move me the way it moves many other men..
I dunno but i just have this thought that most women's submission is undercover gold-digging... But lets not go there tho..
Just like undercover said, anyone who doesn't want his wife to work should definitely not have a problem bearing the financial burden. But such a man has some work to do when picking a wife. if not, he'll end up with an "undercover gold-digger"

Hyerin:


I believe no man of actual substance is spending their time circle jerking with others on how they're so falsely persecuted in a fallacious "gynocentric society".

There's nothing like awakened either bc the patriarchy is still the default. This is just a coping mechanism to some of you bc women have rights & agency of thought in the modern age.

Hyerin:


Believe it or not, I don't want my "man" to teach me interesting things, I don't want to be naive towards him. I don't want a man who is a chauvinist or condescending. I know men get off by being dominant and love the thrill and false sense of power but personally, I favour a more egalitarian style relationship where I'm treated as a partner and not a subordinate. My ideal man is someone who shares the same values and belief systems such as me; empathetic; clever but not arrogant. I know toxic masculinity has some of you in a chokehold and will call such a person a "simp". I hope I've answered your question though

Zabiboy:

I also have this thought too man...
Personally, i think it's Relative.. everyone has something they want in their own woman/wife
Funny enough for me( not interested in marriage or relationship shit), "submissiveness" doesn't seem to move me the way it moves many other men..
I dunno but i just have this thought that most women's submission is undercover gold-digging... But lets not go there tho..
Just like undercover said, anyone who doesn't want his wife to work should definitely not have a problem bearing the financial burden. But such a man has some work to do when picking a wife. if not, he'll end up with an "undercover gold-digger"

TheDarkGamer:

Superb response. I understand now.

MJBOLT:

Belafonte:



I totally believe you

Illumined939:
That young girl you are happy for about her naivete, just so you can mould her into what you desire her to be for you, would one day experience an awakening that could shock you, and make you dispute and question the validity of those games / training you ran on her.

With women, nothing is carved in stone. Once you know this, you don't spend too much time writing about women.
Although, the knowledge of the redpill reduces the risk of a man getting burnt in his affairs with women.

fattprince:

I can read sarcasm in your reply. You know femails don't even know what they want. I've experienced this twice in the little relationships I've been in. Immediately you behave like you guys are equal bam!! They feel they are better than you and can get a better guy. But I've learnt sha.

fattprince:

I can read sarcasm in your reply. You know femails don't even know what they want. I've experienced this twice in the little relationships I've been in. Immediately you behave like you guys are equal bam!! They feel they are better than you and can get a better guy. But I've learnt sha.

SOZINN:


But these women will invest more in a relationship. Unlike the other type most men desire who can offer only sex.

Junnior:

What does it mean to have abundance mindset?

Weather he has multiple wives or he has one wife but decides to be fvcking multiple hoes, it is still abundance mindset.

He wouldn't be fvcking around if he didn't have that.

It is, however, possible to have this abundance mindset and still be faithful in marriage to one woman ( i.e, decide not to act on the mindset).

I don't know why we always forget that the redpill is amoral.