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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:08pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
hupernikao: The angel that spoke with her was sent from heaven just as Jesus was sent {John 3:16-18} in this Bible quote it's clear that any spirit person sent from heaven is one of the angels and such a person can represent God just as the angel told Hagar "i will multiply thy seed exceedingly" Only God can do that so the angel was speaking in behalf of God just as Jesus (another spirit son of God) said so many things in behalf of his father! But this is not a debate session rather it's for those who want to study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Note that i purposely mentioned the group name so it's not about coming here for a debate, A study is between two persons, the one teaching and one learning. As the learner already know the worth of his teacher and the teacher also know the level of the student. But a debate is between two rival parties, both will have to properly introduce themselves so that the spectators will know where the idea is coming from and the group adhering to what each debator is supporting. So if you want to debate with JWs you can open a thread, tell everyone the name of your church and what you believe as a bonafide member then one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will volunteer to debate with you. Don't come and start arguing blindly when everyone knows that the churches claiming CHRISTIANS aren't teaching the same thing. Please if you truly want a debate any of JWs will do that with you provided you name the church whose teachings you're standing for! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 9:14pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
Janosky: Let's start the Bible study... Which topic are going to start with? I will suggest "armageddon".... What is armageddon? Where is armageddon? and Why armageddon? ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 9:27pm On Jun 21, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: "[/b]....A study is between two persons, the one teaching and one learning. As the learner already know the worth of his teacher and the teacher also know the level of the student...."[b] At least the students/learners questions and curiosity should not be called argument. A teacher should be competent and amicable to attend to the students. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44am On Jun 22, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: True! Just as i curiously questioned Jehovah's Witnesses for over two decades before my conversion. But there's one motive powering my curiosity: i believe in one God and one form of worship {John 4:24} where all those worshiping will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10} and globally people will known them as a group speaking the same language of truth worshiping shoulder to shoulder! Zephaniah 3:9 So i want to be sure my teacher belongs to this group that's the reason why i'm questioning him! Do you believe this? If you do, do you have any religious group in mind? Because initially i thought it was Islam but there is no group anyone can present in Islam, therefore i turned to search for this group in Christianity. Micah 4:1-3 So if you don't have any group in mind then you shouldn't be the one picking topics since you don't even know which group is practicing pure worship! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:00am On Jun 22, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:To study the Bible as a book where both parties are in search of truth we will first have to question the Author since it was brought and the importers claim it's the word of God. So the first topic on this thread with you should be: Who is the Author of this book and what is His motive for inspiring the writers? ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 10:15am On Jun 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: [/b]"...So i want to be sure my teacher belongs to this group that's the reason why i'm questioning him!"[b] Who confirm the group (or your this your description) as godly? This is what brings false convictions to humanity. It's called idol in the heart. King Ahab chose such when he was searching. He would not accept prophet Micaiah for the sake of the 450 prophets who had the same line of thoughts, (1 Kings 22:8-15) God of the Bible says whoever sets idol in his heart and then come to make inquiry, that He will answer the individual according to the idol in his heart. *. Ezekiel 14:3 "KJV:Son of man, THESE MEN HAVE SET UP THEIR IDOLS IN THEIR HEART, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them? 4 KJV:Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; EVERY MAN of the house of Israel THAT SETTETH UP HIS IDOLS IN HIS HEART, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I THE LORD WILL ANSWER HIM THAT COMETH ACCORDING TO THE MULTITUDE OF HIS IDOLS;" *. Ezekiel 20:16 "KJV: BECAUSE THEY DESPISED MY JUDGMENTS, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for THEIR HEART WENT AFTER THEIR IDOLS." Note: THESE MEN HAVE SET UP THEIR IDOLS IN THEIR HEART, EVERY MAN THAT SETTETH UP HIS IDOLS IN HIS HEART, I THE LORD WILL ANSWER HIM THAT COMETH ACCORDING TO THE MULTITUDE OF HIS IDOLS;" So dear max, empty your heart of your idols and He will reveal Himself to you. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 10:21am On Jun 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: [/b] "...So if you don't have any group in mind then you shouldn't be the one...."[b] I'm warned by my Maker to avoid idol in the heart - Ezekiel 14:3 |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:26am On Jun 22, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: That's why you can't call what you're here for a "STUDY" but a "DEBATE" ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28am On Jun 22, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: So there's no need worrying yourself if you think this is about an idol Sir! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 11:04am On Jun 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: What do you mean? Word of God calls it idols in the heart not me. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:57pm On Jun 22, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: Well if my ideas means idolatry to you there's no need coming to me for a study nah? ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 2:18pm On Jun 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You are yet to answer the question. Dont drop scriptures you cant defend. Where did you read Jesus in the text. Or its imagination. ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Jun 22, 2021 |
hupernikao: You don't need any answer, you're here for a debate but we are talking about a Bible study. So keep your questions or take it to your fellow believers in your own God! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by KNOWMORE56: 9:43am On Jun 23, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Ok |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:37am On Jun 23, 2021 |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 9:19pm On Jun 23, 2021 |
hupernikao: The holy Scriptures is from Genesis to Revelation. John 8:38, Jesus Christ says he pre-exists with his Father. Therefore, Job 2:1 & Job 38:1-7, Jesus is there. Simple, direct & straight forward. Is Jesus not your God in the old testament? According to your claim, Jesus is your God of old testament. Your God in the flesh is "Jesus." It's DUBIOUS for you to claim your Triune God, Jesus did not pre-exists. Bros,STOP DECEIVING yourself. ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 9:45pm On Jun 23, 2021 |
hupernikao: hupernikao: Oga Hupernikao, Bros you well? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 9:57pm On Jun 23, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: Bros, go & teach your Trinity Crew members that Jesus is the angel of the Lord, his second highest office. When you have successfully done this, come for your tutorials on Armageddon. JWs are ready to help you. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:59pm On Jun 23, 2021 |
Janosky:People like him just want to argue they don't have any purpose so allow him to go and sought out whatever he want with his brethren in TRINITY. This thread is strictly for only those who have found something unique in JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization and feel like studying the Bible with us to know how we are able to maintain the oneness, love, peace and joy of a global family of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of the word of our God! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 10:03pm On Jun 23, 2021 |
hupernikao:Hupernikao, when you forget & type GIBBERISH, the internet never forgets you messed up big time. ![]() ![]() "Truthfully also, when study wholesomely, all scriptures pointed to Christ as the GOD of OT writings" |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 9:06am On Jun 24, 2021 |
Janosky: The issue here is you cant even try to read well. What you quoted above is very consistent in all my writings, infact that is the central theme of my writing. But the issue is, till now you never even understand what it means. You cant read it properly because of the state of your heart, hence you are seeing contradictions. When you have the habit of picking words or statement in between and not consider the line of thought and surrounding discussion you will always come to such conclusion as "Jesus is angel" or always accusing others of what you never even understood. When you reach a good level of knowing how to read properly in years to come, open this thread again and read all i have posted, you will full appreciate it and dismay your slackness in past years. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 9:07am On Jun 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Strawman exit strategy is what you throw above. Bros, lets face the scriptures. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 9:12am On Jun 24, 2021 |
Janosky: When you cant differentiate between the word "Father" and "God" even in all your years of misreading literatures, how will you not ask or speak in manner you wrote above. Go and get your English primer to help you with word meaning. You are confusing yourself big time. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 9:15am On Jun 24, 2021 |
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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Jun 24, 2021 |
hupernikao: Go and face it with your brethren in TRINITY then after you are through with them everyone will SEE the positive results of your endeavors. This thread is open only for those who have noticed the uniqueness of God's people within a renown Organization, they are the ones invited to come and study with "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" in order to know how we have used the wisdom found in God's word to maintain and sustain LOVE, JOY and PEACE in our global family! Isaiah 2:2-4 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:52am On Jun 24, 2021 |
hupernikao: Is this not the same thing you're expecting from all your brethren in TRINITY? You wish all of them could see the scriptures from your point of view, just as each one of you wished for one another and the result is no agreement in your midst for the past 1800 years that Constantine initiated this fallacy. Is that not the reason why you can't present any group of persons practicing your TRINITY doctrine in the right sense? So you're now expecting members of a well organized and orderly group whose teachings and practices are well recognize globally to come and start arguing fruitlessly with you who can't even present any notable group practicing what you are saying! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9 At times it baffles me why you're so blind and deaf to the impotency of this your TRINITY god {Psalms 115:5-8} because a real god will make sure he keep a people for Himself {Isaiah 43:10-12; Act 15:14} so that onlookers from everywhere could look at them and say "this are the worshipers of this god" Matthew 5:13-16 compare to John 17:20-23 But in the case of TRINITY each worshiper just face his/her own different direction so that globally nobody can say "this are the true worshipers of TRINITY" because contradictions are everywhere! Luke 11:23 Sorry it's not about arguing to win but studying for a purpose which is IDENTIFYING the group of people getting timely spiritual food {Isaiah 65:13-15} and those feeding them {Matthew 24:15} in this endtime when there is an ongoing global spiritual famine! Amos 8:11 ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 10:54am On Jun 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Bro, you are just going out of point. I am sure you Bible has not being stolen. Open it and discuss it. You are the one who called for Bible study. Why the complain now. The moment you cant defend your wrong text and teaching, it become an argument. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 10:56am On Jun 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: ![]() ![]() ![]() But you are my brother of Non Trinity abi? ![]() ![]() ![]() Is that not unique enough. |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:14am On Jun 24, 2021 |
hupernikao: I called for Bible study with respect to a group in mind "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" do you notice the uniqueness of this global family? If yes then members are here and ready to study God's word with you, with the prospect of knowing how this people have used the Bible to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in their gathering. But if not then your presence here should be to enlighten JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES with the prospect of directing members to a better performing group, so everyone can now learn the best form of Christianity and the positive results from members of such a group! That's just the two options you have Sir, otherwise you'll only mess up the thread the same way you and your trinitarian brethren does in all the threads without having anything tangible to PRESENT as true Christianity! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18am On Jun 24, 2021 |
hupernikao: People here don't believe in your Trinity so if you want to establish TRINITY then PRESENT a group of people practicing what TRINITY taught you as true Christianity. Apart from that there's no room for fruitless arguments Sir! ![]() |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by true2god: 1:37pm On Jun 24, 2021 |
haddeylium:Your point 2, which the JWs use as the only prove of Jesus being an angel, is false and never supported by any other verse of the scripture. If you quote the verse completely, without omitting the 2nd statement in the same verse, you will end up exposing your fallacy. New King James Version For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 1) For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout. 2) with the voice of an archangel (the verse says 'an archangel' which means there are more than one archangels) 3) with the trumpet of God (if Jesus is the voice of an archangel, as you claim, he is equally the trumpet of God. You cannot pick and choose what you want from the verse). My conclusion: Jesus will descend from heaven in company of an archangel, which the bible never specified his name, whose shout (voice) will herald his coming in company of other angels who will blow the trumpet of God. This is a simple English that JWs, and the governing body, had twisted in order to establish a strange and heretical theology. Side bar: 1) New King James Version (Heb 1:5) For to which of the angels did He EVER say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”? The answer is NONE (angel Michael inclusive). JWs should stop talking nonsense abeg and read the Bible themselves without following the watchtower script : what the bibe really teaches. 1 Like |
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 8:04pm On Jun 24, 2021 |
true2god: You could have added since calling the dead with an archangel's voice means Jesus is an Archangel. Therefore, Jesus calling the dead with God's trumpet should equally allow them to see Jesus as ALMIGHTY GOD. |
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