donstan18:

Do you know I can argue Benzema being better than Drogba and still win you?

First bring just one Benzema's Fifa best XI appearance in 20yrs before i can entertain any further discussion.

England tried in their encounter with Germany kudos to Southgate and his players for a convincing win.
As for Germany they need to do away with the old guards and use the young players if they're to succeed come Qatar 2022. They have been a shadow of their former selves and this isn't help by the fact that Low wasn't ready to take the hard decision in critical moments.
England will go a long way if they don't drop their heads in the subsequent games because it was team spirit and technical brilliance that pushed them through.

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Kilishihunter:

Even in the 2014 final, 5-6 bayern players started against Argentina with gotze another bayern player at the time subbed in to score the winner Pep was the manager

Which wan be this one na?
How is Jupp heynckes work now Pep's own?

Trevor012:

Is there someone else that is indirectly responsible for almost 40million deaths (world war 2/holocaust)?

world war 2 didn't begin on it's own, the lit from world war 1 was still burning and the treaty of versailles was it's fuel

Hitler isn't the baddest guy in history, I don't know your tribe but if you knew the reparations that Germany faced after world war 1 and you had some jews living among your people, you would automatically blame them for your predicaments

Economy instability caused world war 2 and the rise of hitler to power

airmark:


First bring just one Benzema's Fifa best XI appearance in 20yrs before i can entertain any further discussion.

David Luiz, Pique, Pogba, Varane and Mbappe.

Are they all world class players?

popizaino:


Sterling
Stone
Walker

Pep didn't bring out Walker. Walker was already a big time England player before 2018 and also before his move to Man city. Pochetinno did.

Stones? Someone who is mostly on the bench after his overpriced 50m move is what you're crediting to pep? In fact how many 2018 games did he play? Aside this concluded season, when last did he had a run of game in the league?

Na only sterling I might gree with pep just cos he improved him. Else everyone even knew who sterling was during his Liverpool days.

Abeg, this pep agenda no go fly lai lai.
Pep personally have no imprint in this England success at all at all..

Havertz10:
world war 2 didn't begin on it's own, the lit from world war 1 was still burning and the treaty of versailles was it's fuel

Hitler isn't the baddest guy in history, I don't know your tribe but if you knew the reparations that Germany faced after world war 1 and you had some jews living among your people, you would automatically blame them for your predicaments

Economy instability caused world war 2 and the rise of hitler to power

Hitler is the sole reason. holocaust was a direct result of Hitler uniting Germans under an aryan flag in post depression Germany, turning everyone against the communists, blacks, and most of all the jews.

Jodera:
Which wan be this one na?
How is Jupp heynckes work now Pep's own?

Heycknes was coach in 2013/2014 right? Gotze played under heycknes abi? Heckynes coached bayern in 2012, could Germany go past Italy in euro 2012?

Havertz10:
world war 2 didn't begin on it's own, the lit from world war 1 was still burning and the treaty of versailles was it's fuel

Hitler isn't the baddest guy in history, I don't know your tribe but if you knew the reparations that Germany faced after world war 1 and you had some jews living among your people, you would automatically blame them for your predicaments

Economy instability caused world war 2 and the rise of hitler to power

The Treaty of Versailles and other punitive measures imposed on Germany after their defeat in WWI were the pretext for WWII, anything other than this is just a spice to the the main ingredients

Trevor012:

Hitler is the sole reason. holocaust was a direct result of Hitler uniting Germans under an aryan flag in post depression Germany, turning everyone against the communists, blacks, and most of all the jews.

hitler took advantage of an economic situation and growing resentment towards jews, jews even fought along side germans during world war 1, world war 1 laid the foundation for world war 2
Google it na

Baddest guys in history

Genghis Khan 40m deaths but he is labeled a warrior hero because no religious agenda

Leopold II 10m

Hitler 6m

Pol Pot 2.5m



Those are the ones I can remember, i'm sure that I will find more people with higher death counts than Hitler but religion no go allow una see pass propaganda and agenda

I don't know your tribe but i'm sure that you hate some tribe or religion because they are different, are you any different?

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Havertz10:
hitler took advantage of an economic situation and growing resentment towards jews, jews even fought along side germans during world war 1, world war 1 laid the foundation for world war 2
Google it na

Baddest guys in history

Genghis Khan 40m deaths but he is labeled a warrior hero because no religious agenda

Leopold II 10m

Hitler 6m

Pol Pot 2.5m



Those are the ones I can remember, i'm sure that I will find more people with higher death counts than Hitler but religion no go allow una see pass propaganda and agenda

I don't know your tribe but i'm sure that you hate another tribe because they are different, are you any different?

Hitler killed 40million plus plus. F.uck that nigga and all those other niggas you listed there

Can we finally agree how good Rice is and why Lampard wanted him

Kilishihunter:

Pep not winning UCL after barca isn't my business, I just agree with pop ziano's line of thought that national teams tend to perform well when he coaches in their country, Germany's last major triumph was the euros in 1996, the rest near misses even in their country, But it was one of his players who came in to deliver the 2014 world cup to them, The Dutch too have had near misses too especially the world cup yet nothing, Italy has been mostly shambles after 2006 except in 2012 and just recently when Mancini was appointed

This is purely coincidental and nothing else. It's just like wen Ramsey scores then and a celebrity dies. Does it mean it's his goal that resulted in their unfortunate demise?

If we want to check his impact we'll look at his players, and whether most are pivotal in the team. The 2018 WC consist of sterling who didn't too shine and a walker that played Cb throughout the tourney and a stones that I didn't even know weda he played or not. Is that the impact or improvement you're talking about?

Or is it this euros that we have only sterling I admit that's shining, but what about shaw, grealish and Philips? Are they man city too?

Or you want to talk about stones that Mings can easily replace sharp sharp? Abi na foden?

Abeg, na Pep fanboyism una wan do for here

Kilishihunter:

Heycknes was coach in 2013/2014 right? Gotze played under heycknes abi? Heckynes coached bayern in 2012, could Germany go past Italy in euro 2012?

Heynckes team were made in 2012. That they're made in 2012 doesn't mean that they'll carry everything in 2012. The team was more rounded in 2013 which was just a year before the world cup. Pep or no pep, they would have won it. Same with France who were good in 2016 and won it in 2018. Thank God pep didn't coach PSG else una for say na pep make France carry world cup in 2018 after losing euros in 2016

Kilishihunter:

Heycknes was coach in 2013/2014 right? Gotze played under heycknes abi? Heckynes coached bayern in 2012, could Germany go past Italy in euro 2012?

Even the gotze was already a star boy in Germany sef.
Gotze hype as at then, havertz no even reach am. That's to tell you who gotze was and how star studded German team were.

You think present German players of havertz and gnabry will get into that team? You think it's Pep that made those players who they were? lol

The Germany team of 2014 world cup played more like heynckes fast and ruthless football than of Pep possession based football he wanted to turn Bayern to

airmark:


First bring just one Benzema's Fifa best XI appearance in 20yrs before i can entertain any further discussion.

No use drogba do argument oooo because dem go win you hands down

Havertz10:
hitler took advantage of an economic situation and growing resentment towards jews, jews even fought along side germans during world war 1, world war 1 laid the foundation for world war 2
Google it na

Baddest guys in history

Genghis Khan 40m deaths but he is labeled a warrior hero because no religious agenda

Leopold II 10m

Hitler 6m

Pol Pot 2.5m



Those are the ones I can remember, i'm sure that I will find more people with higher death counts than Hitler but religion no go allow una see pass propaganda and agenda

I don't know your tribe but i'm sure that you hate some tribe or religion because they are different, are you any different?

Papa doc

Joseph stalin

Mobutu seseko

Mao Zedong

Kim il song

George bush

Amoto94:
England tried in their encounter with Germany kudos to Southgate and his players for a convincing win.
As for Germany they need to do away with the old guards and use the young players if they're to succeed come Qatar 2022. They have been a shadow of their former selves and this isn't help by the fact that Low wasn't ready to take the hard decision in critical moments.
England will go a long way if they don't drop their heads in the subsequent games because it was team spirit and technical brilliance that pushed them through.

England where the better team

How many old guard dey germany abeg?

Hummels 32 muller 31 kroos 31?

The germans got a very young team also abeg

Jodera:
Heynckes team were made in 2012. That they're made in 2012 doesn't mean that they'll carry everything in 2012. The team was more rounded in 2013 which was just a year before the world cup. Pep or no pep, they would have won it. Same with France who were good in 2016 and won it in 2018. Thank God pep didn't coach PSG else una for say na pep make France carry world cup in 2018 after losing euros in 2016

'They would have', 'They would have' Why didn't they win before 2014? Leave speculation and let's focus on reality, Heckynes came in 2011, lost to Chelsea in 2012, Germany went to euro 2012 and lost to Italy in the semi finals, Pep took over from heycknes in 2013/14 Won all but the UCL and a player that featured under him not Heckynes came off the bench to deliver a major title since 1996, Why won't pep's name popup since an almost similar occurrence happened in Barca and Spain?

donstan18:

David Luiz, Pique, Pogba, Varane and Mbappe.

Are they all world class players?

Pique was world class on his prime, he is now old and has slowed down

Mbappe and pogba are currently world class

Varane and david luiz where never world class but top players

My opinion.

Jodera:
Pep didn't bring out Walker. Walker was already a big time England player before 2018 and also before his move to Man city. Pochetinno did.

Stones? Someone who is mostly on the bench after his overpriced 50m move is what you're crediting to pep? In fact how many 2018 games did he play? Aside this concluded season, when last did he had a run of game in the league?

Na only sterling I might gree with pep just cos he improved him. Else everyone even knew who sterling was during his Liverpool days.

Abeg, this pep agenda no go fly lai lai.
Pep personally have no imprint in this England success at all at all..

I think you are contradicting your self

We need to give credit to pep for stones, stones was mostly on the bench because he is not good enough to even bench otamendi and others CB at city, should i remind you that stones didnt start 6 consecutive epl games for 3 good seasons till this season that just ended?

If not for pep england wont even take stones to this euros , look at sones playing so good, same cant be said of the previous seasons

Kilishihunter:

'They would have', 'They would have' Why didn't they win before 2014? Leave speculation and let's focus on reality, Heckynes came in 2011, lost to Chelsea in 2012, Germany went to euro 2012 and lost to Italy in the semi finals, Pep took over from heycknes in 2013/14 Won all but the UCL and a player that featured under him not Heckynes came off the bench to deliver a major title since 1996, Why won't pep's name popup since an almost similar occurrence happened in Barca and Spain?

Na you dey do "they would have"

So because gotze scored when it matters most, after warming bench almost throughout the tourney minutes, na Pep credit .

You're not answering my question..
Why did Germany play more of heynckes football than Pep possession based football? Cos that's the main factor that we'll agree.
All these because he came to so so country won't fly one bit.

Spain won euros before pep, but na Spain WC win naim pep affect
England have few of pep players starting, but na pep cause England reach semi finals

Now if England win euros, you no go dash tuchel or ancellotti wey come, but na pep wey don dey since 2017 (almost same time with klopp) you go wan dash.

Omo, make una die dat matter abeg

Ibime:


Shut up man. Last world cup when England made semis, how many did he score.

Someone that Pep has been dropping from Man City team and even wants to offer to Spurs in exchange for Kane.

You are right about the bolded

I still wonder why pep started him at the champions league finals

popizaino:



Is Marcelo a world class or not ?

Only a beer parlour analyst will say marcelo is not world class

Jodera:
Even the gotze was already a star boy in Germany sef.
Gotze hype as at then, havertz no even reach am. That's to tell you who gotze was and how star studded German team were.

You think present German players of havertz and gnabry will get into that team? You think it's Pep that made those players who they were? lol

The Germany team of 2014 world cup played more like heynckes fast and ruthless football than of Pep possession based football he wanted to turn Bayern to

I knew gotze when he was already starring for Dortmund and was a little hurt when he left them for bayern immediately after the 2013 UCL loss, But gotze did well in his first season under pep posting double digit in goals, And Low didn't play any fast football, His style of play was more direct (not short) passing and high creativity, Heycknes had ribery and robben to do that for them, If they were playing 'fast football' as you said, Why was ozil able to put up a masterclass then

donstan18:

David Luiz, Pique, Pogba, Varane and Mbappe.

Are they all world class players?

Have you accepted that Benzema is not world class? We don't need to lower the standards because of dearth in quality strikers.

donstan18:

I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo.

I like serious players.

But Alaba is world class and Marcelo isn't abi ?

Jodera:
Na you dey do "they would have"

So because gotze scored when it matters most, after warming bench almost throughout the tourney minutes, na Pep credit .

You're not answering my question..
Why did Germany play more of heynckes football than Pep possession based football? Cos that's the main factor that we'll agree.
All these because he came to so so country won't fly one bit.

Spain won euros before pep, but na Spain WC win naim pep affect
England have few of pep players starting, but na pep cause England reach semi finals

Now if England win euros, you no go dash tuchel or ancellotti wey come, but na pep wey don dey since 2017 (almost same time with klopp) you go wan dash.

Omo, make una die dat matter abeg

Nobody said pep is the main factors in those countries achieving? Afterall he didn't coach those countries and not all his club players played there, What I'm just saying is that the national teams of the countries pep coached in so far tend to perform well even if he contributed 0.1% to it, I saw you typing about coincidence, show me other managers who had the same coincidence na

andrewbaba44:


I think you are contradicting your self

We need to give credit to pep for stones, stones was mostly on the bench because he is not good enough to even bench otamendi and others CB at city, should i remind you that stones didnt start 6 consecutive epl games for 3 good seasons till this season that just ended?

If not for pep england wont even take stones to this euros , look at sones playing so good, same cant be said of the previous seasons

No I'm not. You're even making my point for me. He talked about 2018 WC and I'm saying Stones wasn't among those for England to be reckoned with. So how exactly the pep help England?

Just only sterling and the sterling no even shine.
So how pep take help England for 2018 semi final run

andrewbaba44:


Pique was world class on his prime, he is now old and has slowed down

Mbappe and pogba are currently world class

Varane and david luiz where never world class but top players

My opinion.

Pique? Prime? How?