airmark:




Not scoring up to 25 league goals in at least a season for 20 seasons is not a world class feat. Name one world class striker without such feat in 20yrs playing for top teams? It is like calling Valdes, world class just because of trophies won and making a starting lineup consistently for Barca for years.

If Benzema is world class, Varane, Carvajal, Kroos are all world class players.

If benzema is not world class because he have never scored 25 league goals in any season,, what will you say about Chelsea legend dider drogba who could not average 1 epl goal in every 2 games for chelsea but still regarded as a world class player

Should i remind you that lukaku got more epl goals than drogba with lesser games

airmark:


Have you accepted that Benzema is not world class? We don't need to lower the standards because of dearth in quality strikers.

You used FIFA11 as a reason to dispute what I said about Benzema and I’m asking if David Luiz, Pique, Pogba, Varane and Mbappe are world class players?

Why not answer, let’s start from there.

Then with time, you’ll realize how useless Drogba will be if we should compare him to Benzema.

donstan18:

Pique? Prime? How?

pique was world class and its simple .

I am saying he has slowed down now .

popizaino:



But Alaba is world class and Marcelo isn't abi ?

Where did I say Alaba is a world class player?

I said I’ll pick him over Marcelo.

Jodera:
No I'm not. You're even making my point for me. He talked about 2018 WC and I'm saying Stones wasn't among those for England to be reckoned with. So how exactly the pep help England?

Just only sterling and the sterling no even shine.
So how pep take help England for 2018 semi final run

Okay sorry, got you now about the 2018 world cup

andrewbaba44:


pique was world class and its simple .

I am saying he has slowed down now .

Was world class?

When and how?

Do players stop from being world class?

donstan18:

Where did I say Alaba is a world class player?

I said I’ll pick him over Marcelo.

Alaba and marcelo are world class players no cap

If their 2 are not world class i wonder which LB come be world class

donstan18:

Was world class?

When and how?

Do players stop from being world class?

I am trying to say him at 34 is not top of his game as before

On a good day pique is a world class player

Kilishihunter:

Nobody said pep is the main factors in those countries achieving? Afterall he didn't coach those countries and not all his club players played there, What I'm just saying is that the national teams of the countries pep coached in so far tend to perform well even if he contributed 0.1% to it, I saw you typing about coincidence, show me other managers who had the same coincidence na

if it's 0.1%, then we can as well call other managers na. Abi no be so?.

If it's the coincidence, then I'll say only Germany he factored in their win.

Spain was already a winner before pep
England haven't still won anything. So nothing pep there
So if England goes on to win this euros, we'll give it to tuchel, or ancellotti

andrewbaba44:


No use drogba do argument oooo because dem go win you hands down

Tell me the year Benzema made Fifa best XI or else vamoose. Has he even made Uefa team of the year before?

andrewbaba44:


I am trying to say him at 34 is not top of his game as before

On a good day pique is a world class player

When were these good days?

What was he doing then that he’s not doing now.

I’m confused.

donstan18:

You used FIFA11 as a reason to dispute what I said about Benzema and I’m asking if David Luiz, Pique, Pogba, Varane and Mbappe are world class players?

Why not answer, let’s start from there.

Then with time, you’ll realize how useless Drogba will be if we should compare him to Benzema.

No, you remove the one at the top before going down.

Let's settle Benzema, the world class striker that never scored 25 league goals in a season in like 20yrs first.

donstan18:

When were these good days?

What was he doing then that he’s not doing now.

I’m confused.

You no dey watch barca?

Dey there Dey ask wetin him dey do then and not now

Kilishihunter:

I knew gotze when he was already starring for Dortmund and was a little hurt when he left them for bayern immediately after the 2013 UCL loss, But gotze did well in his first season under pep posting double digit in goals, And Low didn't play any fast football, His style of play was more direct (not short) passing and high creativity, Heycknes had ribery and robben to do that for them, If they were playing 'fast football' as you said, Why was ozil able to put up a masterclass then :-\

cos ozil was a fast and direct football kinda player even though he looks languid. Reason why he shone at Madrid

So you agree gotze got his shine and fame in Dortmund and not Bayern. Nice.

Well, Me I think you're misunderstanding popi.zaino sha.

andrewbaba44:


Okay sorry, got you now about the 2018 world cup

Jodera:
if it's 0.1%, then we can as well call other managers na. Abi no be so?.

If it's the coincidence, then I'll say only Germany he factored in their win.

Spain was already a winner before pep
England haven't still won anything. So nothing pep there
So if England goes on to win this euros, we'll give it to tuchel, or ancellotti

Spain had already won the euros before 2008, but no world cup
Germany won the euros in 1996, since then nothing until 2014
As for England they last reached the semi finals in that same 1996, since then heartbreaks, the next time they reached was 2018, you can call tuchel, ancelotti, klopp even Sean dyche, All I'm saying is pep's clubs national teams tend to do well even if it's 0.01% impact he had, No be serious matter like that

airmark:


No you remove the one at the top before going down.

Let's settle Benzema world class striker that never scored 25 league goals in a season first.

Paul Onuachu Scored 27 goals last season, is he a world class player?

airmark:


Tell me the year Benzema made Fifa best XI or else vamoose. Has he even made Uefa team of the year before?

Since benzema is not world class

Then drogba is also not world class

You agree or not before we go into this trolling ?

donstan18:

Paul Onuachu Scored 27 goals last season, is he a world class player?

Don't be ridiculous. Show me the season Benzema scored 25+ league goals in a season and made Fifa best XI or even UEFA best XI.

andrewbaba44:


Since benzema is not world class

Then drogba is also not world class

You agree or not before we go into this trolling ?

Go and tell FIFA that.

airmark:


Don't be ridiculous. Show me the season Benzema scored 25+ league goals in a season and made Fifa best XI or even UEFA best XI.

Do you know that Benzema is by far better than Drogba??

Can you dispute that?

Kilishihunter:

Spain had already won the euros before 2008, but no world cup
Germany won the euros in 1996, since then nothing until 2014
As for England they last reached the semi finals in that same 1996, since then heartbreaks, the next time they reached was 2018, [b]you can call tuchel, ancelotti, klopp even Sean dyche, [/b]All I'm saying is pep's clubs national teams tend to do well even if it's 0.01% impact he had, No be serious matter like that

Fine, as long as most other top coaches have better or almost equal impact on national's team success, then we're on same page.

My argument with popi.zaino was him claiming pep have Large part of success to most NT success/win which I was vehemently against.
But with your standing, me and you no get ish be that

Jodera:
Pep didn't bring out Walker. Walker was already a big time England player before 2018 and also before his move to Man city. Pochetinno did.

Stones? Someone who is mostly on the bench after his overpriced 50m move is what you're crediting to pep? In fact how many 2018 games did he play? Aside this concluded season, when last did he had a run of game in the league?

Na only sterling I might gree with pep just cos he improved him. Else everyone even knew who sterling was during his Liverpool days.

Abeg, this pep agenda no go fly lai lai.
Pep personally have no imprint in this England success at all at all..

I'm less concern if any of them were big players or not with the National side before pep Guardiola,just compare and contrast their performances with the national side before and during pep Guardiola and see your answers .

andrewbaba44:


Only a beer parlour analyst will say marcelo is not world class

Tell donstan18

donstan18:

Where did I say Alaba is a world class player?

I said I’ll pick him over Marcelo.

Dayo that watched Alaba everyday will not choose Alaba over Marcelo but it's your choice though. Just suspend that talk of Marcelo is not world class cus if Marcelo is not world class then nobody is world class not even messi and Ronaldo.

popizaino:


I'm less concern if any of them were big players or not with the National side before pep Guardiola,just compare and contrast their performances with the national side before and during pep Guardiola and see your answers .

I think you need to be detailed let's get you well.

Let's take 2018 WC semi final run as example
Which of Pep's player(s) was very instrumental and pivotal in their run to semi finals?

List them one by one and their contributions let's see

donstan18:

Do you know that Benzema is by far better than Drogba??

Can you dispute that?

Yes as a Left or right wing striker or as a bricklayer.

Popizaino. France won the last World Cup. Did Pep Guardiola play any role in their victory?

popizaino:



Dayo that watched Alaba everyday will not choose Alaba over Marcelo but it's your choice though. Just suspend that talk of Marcelo is not world class cus if Marcelo is not world class then nobody is world class not even messi and Ronaldo.

Why are you quick to force what I didn’t say on me? Where did I say he isn’t world class?

Ferrari vs GoKart shows on the field

You were asked a simple question that requires a straightforward answer, you went about bringing another discussion so much about intellectual dishonesty.

donstan18:

Why are you quick to force what I didn’t say on me? Where did I say he isn’t world class?

I'm forcing anything on you .....this is you below

donstan18:

Marcelo isn’t a defensive reliable world class 3.

He’s attacking duties gave him name because he had Ramos that could cover for him.