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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:31pm On Jun 30, 2021
TheLequte:
Popizaino. France won the last World Cup. Did Pep Guardiola play any role in their victory?


Russia 2018 was an anomaly, France shouldnt have won that world cup,evidence is their early exit from this euros.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:32pm On Jun 30, 2021
DumaEmpire:
That guy gives me Havertz vibe. They both look similar. What we need is a built up striker
Schick dey try nd i'm a huge fan in this Euros but i don't think he's the package we need. IMO.
He may look frail but he's strong with his back to goal, adding to the fact that he's got a quick feet.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:37pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:

'They would have', 'They would have' Why didn't they win before 2014? Leave speculation and let's focus on reality, Heckynes came in 2011, lost to Chelsea in 2012, Germany went to euro 2012 and lost to Italy in the semi finals, Pep took over from heycknes in 2013/14 Won all but the UCL and a player that featured under him not Heckynes came off the bench to deliver a major title since 1996, Why won't pep's name popup since an almost similar occurrence happened in Barca and Spain?


Same gotze that declined when he left Dortmund for Bayern, he was even a bench warmer at the 2014 World Cup.

Give credit to pep for what?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:46pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:



I'm forcing anything on you .....this is you below


Defensively, is he reliable?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Spain had already won the euros before 2008, but no world cup
Germany won the euros in 1996, since then nothing until 2014
As for England they last reached the semi finals in that same 1996, since then heartbreaks, the next time they reached was 2018, you can call tuchel, ancelotti, klopp even Sean dyche, [s]All I'm saying is pep's clubs national teams tend to do well even if it's 0.01% impact he had, No be serious matter like that[/s]

In the past 3-4 years who has pep coached in France or Portugal’s national team so you can attribute their success to him Mr. CAPtain?

Same you that was laughing at Portugal’s euro failure would have given pep all the praise if they manage to win the competition all because of Dias in their team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:54pm On Jun 30, 2021
devvy44:



Same gotze that declined when he left Dortmund for Bayern, he was even a bench warmer at the 2014 World Cup.

Give credit to pep for what?
Why didn't you quote this too abi you decided to skip it and spare me that bullcrap gotze declined after the 2014 world cup not before

Kilishihunter:

Even in the 2014 final, 5-6 bayern players started against Argentina with gotze another bayern player at the time subbed in to score the winner Pep was the manager

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 6:59pm On Jun 30, 2021
donstan18:

Why are you quick to force what I didn’t say on me? Where did I say he isn’t world class?

Stop hanging on the fence bro.... Ironical that you talk about hypocritical fencist

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:04pm On Jun 30, 2021
swiz123:


Stop hanging on the fence bro.... Ironical that you talk about hypocritical fencist
Hurt? cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Why didn't you quote this too abi you decided to skip it and spare me that bullcrap gotze declined after the 2014 world cup not before


Why didn’t pep go on to win the Ucl for Bayern after 2014 since 5-6 of his players just won the World Cup?

Loew they work, Pep Dey chop
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:11pm On Jun 30, 2021
devvy44:


In the past 3-4 years who has pep coached in France or Portugal’s national team so you can attribute their success to him Mr. CAPtain?

Same you that was laughing at Portugal’s euro failure would have given pep all the praise if they manage to win the competition all because of Dias in their team
SMH Has pep coached in France or Portugal? When Spain won the world cup in 2010, were pep's barca players not mostly part of that team, Was the match winner not his player? When Germany won the world cup in 2014, were pep's bayern players not a big part of that team, was the match winner not his player? England hasn't been as broad as the former two but his players (Stones, Sterling and Walker) helped England to reach the semi-finals that they didn't see in any comp. since 1996 even though they were not the star men as Kane, trippier and co, Euros 2020 Sterling has scored 75% of all England goals this term, Oga the national teams of pep's club tend to do well when he's there no matter the level of impact, Your move okoto

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:18pm On Jun 30, 2021
Raumdeuter, was listening to gab and julian podcast just now, they talked about the possibility of upamecano playing for Germany, can that happen?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:19pm On Jun 30, 2021
donstan18:

Defensively, is he reliable?


What is defensively reliable ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:20pm On Jun 30, 2021
The transfer news just dry up so, and tomorrow na beginning of new season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:22pm On Jun 30, 2021
Thank God England did not win the world cup in 2018, these pep minions would have been numerous here with their nonsense propaganda

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:23pm On Jun 30, 2021
Havertz10:
Raumdeuter, was listening to gab and julian podcast just now, they talked about the possibility of upamecano playing for Germany, can that happen?


The day dayo clashes with your favourite player is the day will learn not to do follow follow again cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:



Russia 2018 was an anomaly, France shouldnt have won that world cup,evidence is their early exit from this euros.
Same way Spain own was an anomaly in 2012 since they crashed out early in 2014 WC right?

Popi.zaino wetin sup na grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:26pm On Jun 30, 2021
Here we go cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:27pm On Jun 30, 2021
Liposure:
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Mobutu seseko

Mao Zedong

Kim il song

George bush
I forgot Mao Zedong, was George bush that bad? Haven't really looked at his presidency before asides the propaganda phantom Iraqi WMD, will read up on him, Nixon was the one that stoked my interest that guy had a hand in everything.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:

SMH Has pep coached in France or Portugal? When Spain won the world cup in 2010, were pep's barca players not mostly part of that team, Was the match winner not his player? When Germany won the world cup in 2014, were pep's bayern players not a big part of that team, was the match winner not his player? England hasn't been as broad as the former two but his players (Stones, Sterling and Walker) helped England to reach the semi-finals even though they were not the star men as Kane, trippier and co, Euros 2020 Sterling has scored 75% of all England goals this term, Oga the national teams of pep's club tend to do well when he's there no matter the level of impact, Your move okoto


Oga you Cap alot

Barcelona and Bayern are top teams and they always have the tradition of using/grooming indigenous players on their team always, so no surprise about their numerous players in the national team.

You and your fellow cules have always been vocal of how “useless” sterling is, all of the sudden, pep has made him because he has 3 goals for England

Why didnt England win the 2018 WC since pep was in charge of man city then

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:30pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:



The dayo clashes with your favourite player is the day will learn not to do follow follow again cheesy
his opinions are rational, I can always understand where he is coming from

Besides we both have vested interest in Germany, mine is purely for the advancement of havertz and Chelsea brand.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 7:30pm On Jun 30, 2021
Hehehe what a story?

Someone helped others to build them house but his own roof is leaking .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:31pm On Jun 30, 2021
Havertz10:
Ramdeuter, was listening to gab and julian podcast just now, they talked about the possibility of upamecano playing for Germany, can that happen?

I am not listening to the podcast but I dont think Upamecano is a great defender, he is young can improve but so many defensive actions have left him in six and sevens

I am hoping he improves though but at this time, I dont know if he is the solution to Germany defence. He might just end up to be another Hummels good going forward, a liability in defence
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:32pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:
The dayo clashes with your favourite player is the day will learn not to do follow follow again cheesy

Is he doing follow follow? I actually enjoy some of his points even if I don't agree with him, he takes the effort to put some logic behind his reasoning

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:32pm On Jun 30, 2021
MorataFC:
Hehehe what a story?

Someone helped others to build their house but his own house is linking.

Is it MTN to Mtn or Airtel linking cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:33pm On Jun 30, 2021
Jodera:
Same way Spain own was an anomaly in 2012 since they crashed out early in 2014 WC right?

Popi.zaino wetin sup na grin
France won the world cup in 1998 and went on to win the euros in 2000

Spain won the world cup in 2010 and went on to win the Euros in 2012.

Germany also won the world cup in 2014 and reached the semifinals of euro 2016 marginally losing out to the host nation with some questionable officiating.

France won the world cup in 2018 only to get knocked out by European minor in their first real test . grin


If you dont see similar trend in world cup winners doing well in subsequent competition then I cant help again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:35pm On Jun 30, 2021
Havertz10:
his opinions are rational, I can always understand where he is coming from

Besides we both have vested interest in Germany, mine is purely for the advancement of havertz and Chelsea brand.

Before most people here, I knew Harvetz and I knew he is talented, I wanted him at Bayern and still hope we can get him when he is older, physically stronger and more matured. I see him partnering Nmecha for Germany or even become the striker with Wirtz, Musiala Gnabry, Moukoko behind him

Jogi Low messed Germany up for the past 5yrs he should have left after 2018, after Spain destroyed us 6-0, after the Macedonia embarrasment but he waited too long for England to finally beat us in a major tournament knockout for the first time since 1966

Shame to Low and Hummels

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:35pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:



What is defensively reliable ?
He’s not defensively good, Ramos and Varane suffered a lot because of his terrible defensive abilities. Marcelo isn’t a balanced LB.

Just like Trent, he’s more offensive, while AWB is more Defensive.


Alves and Alaba are complete/balanced Rb/Lb.

And I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:35pm On Jun 30, 2021
devvy44:



Oga you Cap alot

Barcelona and Bayern are top teams and they always have the tradition of using/grooming indigenous players on their team always, so no surprise about their numerous players in the national team.

You and your fellow cules have always been vocal of how “useless” sterling is, all of the sudden, pep has made him because he has 3 goals for England
The question is with the high number of players included, Can you specifically point out where Spain won the world cup before 2010, or Germany before 2014? And did Sterling not play under Mancini and Pellegrini? 2018, 2021 who's he playing for? You? And if you dare tell me it's coincidence, you'll have to mention that manager who has the same coincidence too Stop thinking like a Yabaleft undergraduate abeg
You hate pep for rubbishing your club FINE, not that you'll come and be telling me story, Every nation he manages in tend to reach heights whether his input is little or massive, EOD

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:38pm On Jun 30, 2021
Kilishihunter:

'They would have', 'They would have' Why didn't they win before 2014? Leave speculation and let's focus on reality, Heckynes came in 2011, lost to Chelsea in 2012, Germany went to euro 2012 and lost to Italy in the semi finals, Pep took over from heycknes in 2013/14 Won all but the UCL and a player that featured under him not Heckynes came off the bench to deliver a major title since 1996, Why won't pep's name popup since an almost similar occurrence happened in Barca and Spain?


You guys are funny.

Gotze that could not get game time under Pep is the reason Pep won Germany the World Cup

If Argentina had won that WC, you would claim it's Peps influence on Mascherano and Messi

Correlation is not causation

Continue

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:39pm On Jun 30, 2021
Here we go cheesy cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:42pm On Jun 30, 2021
donstan18:

He’s not defensively good, Ramos and Varane suffered a lot because of his terrible defensive abilities. Marcelo isn’t a balanced LB.

Just like Trent, he’s more offensive, while AWB is more Defensive.


Alves and Alaba are complete/balanced Rb/Lb.

And I’ll choose Alaba over Marcelo.

Fine you will choose Alaba over Marcelo......but pls throw all those other reasons put of the window.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:43pm On Jun 30, 2021
popizaino:

France won the world cup in 1998 and went on to win the euros in 2000

Spain won the world cup in 2010 and went on to win the Euros in 2012.

Germany also won the world cup in 2014 and reached the semifinals of euro 2016 marginally losing out to the host nation with some questionable officiating.

France won the world cup in 2018 only to get knocked out by European minor in their first real test . grin


If you dont see similar trend in world cup winners doing well in subsequent competition then I cant help again

So does Italy deserve to win 2006 WC?

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