falseprophet:


The oath is real, they call it "dedication" which is a special vow you make to "Jehovah" to remain loyal to their governing body, you are expected to keep up with your vow forever, failure to do that will result to shunning which includes ostracizing you and even your family will not eat from same plate with you.

I have seen that happen many times.

That's why @op will go the extra mile in claiming "dedication" is mandatory to gain salvation, something not thought or mentioned anywhere in the bible!

achorladey:


Your yes equally requires you to follow directions that are not STRATEGIC or made sense from human standpoint should you value your SALVATION. Hence you see articles with CAPTION e.g PUT FAITH IN A VISIBLE ORGANIZATION. By now you should understand the visible part of the ORGANIZATION every member must rest their faith upon.

achorladey:


You will need to check the second baptismal question of that religious organization to see how the organization goes about its operation. In their study aid you have a chapter that states your dedication and baptism is not to an ORGANIZATION. But below is the second baptismal question


Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization.

Your yes to this question is key as anyone that states clearly that he does not want to be a member of that religious organization under the spotlight here but will readily study with them in the eyes of the ORGANIZATION is a waste of time by those conducting those studies.

Your yes equally requires you to follow directions that are not STRATEGIC or made sense from human standpoint should you value your SALVATION. Hence you see articles with CAPTION e.g PUT FAITH IN A VISIBLE ORGANIZATION. By now you should understand the visible part of the ORGANIZATION every member must rest their faith upon.

Splinz:


Incredible.

Splinz:

That is serious.
Whilst there's nothing wrong in submitting to those God has appointed as leaders, in fact, we are instructed to submit to them (Hebrews 13:17), we are not told that such submission is accompanied by an oath, neither is it a requirement from God.
Perhaps the oath thing explains why people like the Op will go into abyss defending and affirming lies and falsehood, not minding what the scripture or God is actually saying. If an oath is taken to obey the so-called governing body, then heeding instructions such as 1 Thessalonians 5:21 becomes impossible. I mean how can one PROVE conscientiously what the governing body is teaching when you're under oath to remain loyal? Even if one were to prove and find anything contrary to God, but for the blind oath, such a person is technically silenced and kept under chained.
Initially I thought MaxInDHouse's lies and falsehood were products of indoctrination, ignorance and pride. But now, I think there's a new perspective to it.
You may want to take a look at this encounter https://www.nairaland.com/6616284/gods-moral-law-10-commandments/3#103054853 I had with him, to prove my claims against Max.

falseprophet:


The oath is real, they call it "dedication" which is a special vow you make to "Jehovah" to remain loyal to their governing body, you are expected to keep up with your vow forever, failure to do that will result to shunning which includes ostracizing you and even your family will not eat from same plate with you.

I have seen that happen many times.

That's why @op will go the extra mile in claiming "dedication" is mandatory to gain salvation, something not thought or mentioned anywhere in the bible!

Splinz:


That is serious.

Whilst there's nothing wrong in submitting to those God has appointed as leaders, in fact, we are instructed to submit to them (Hebrews 13:17), we are not told that such submission is accompanied by an oath, neither is it a requirement from God.

Perhaps the oath thing explains why people like the Op will go into abyss defending and affirming lies and falsehood, not minding what the scripture or God is actually saying. If an oath is taken to obey the so-called governing body, then heeding instructions such as 1 Thessalonians 5:21 becomes impossible. I mean how can one PROVE conscientiously what the governing body is teaching when you're under oath to remain loyal? Even if one were to prove and find anything contrary to God, but for the blind oath, such a person is technically silenced and kept under chained.

Initially I thought MaxInDHouse's lies and falsehood were products of indoctrination, ignorance and pride. But now, I think there's a new perspective to it.

You may want to take a look at this encounter https://www.nairaland.com/6616284/gods-moral-law-10-commandments/3#103054853 I had with him, to prove my claims against Max.

DappaD:


Take note that my response to your comment is only because you just came across misleading information so to help you out of that mire of confusion

DappaD:

I’m responding to this otherwise I couldn’t care less what the other noisemakers have put up there. Also, I find it really absurd that people who aren’t Witnesses should be able to explain clearly what “dedication” is better than those who are the real Witnesses.

DappaD:

Yes, before a person becomes one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, he undergoes Bible study in order to take in and assimilate knowledge of Jehovah and his Son, Jesus(John 17:3), make the needed adjustments to his life style(Romans 12:2, Ephesians 4:22-24), repents of his sins(Acts 3:19), exercises faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus(John 3:16, Hebrews 9:14-15) and then he makes a vow to Jehovah God to do his will(Psalm 40:8.) before getting baptized(1Peter 3:21) Also there are a number of things that Jehovah requires of us when he dedicate ourselves to him(Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 6:5, 10:12) so he takes our vows to serve him forever very seriously. Ecclesiastes 5:4

But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King, Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. (Matthew 5:34-37)

DappaD:

So contrary to what some have said, we are constantly reminded that we dedicate ourselves, not to any human or organization, but to Jehovah God himself and no one else.

DappaD:

Jesus himself while he was on earth dedicated his entire life to service of his Father, why can we say this? Because at John 4:34, he made a statement that sort of mirrors Psalm 40:8 that I earlier quoted where Jesus said: “My food is to do the will of him(Jehovah) who sent me” so Jehovah’s Witnesses today are also following in Jesus’ footsteps(1Peter 2:21) by dedicating our lives to serve Jehovah and being Jesus’ disciples. Matthew 16:24

Janosky:



Splinz come & take notes ,Bros, shine your eyes.

Definition of church (Entry 1 of 4)
1: a building for public and especially Christian worship
2: the clergy or officialdom of a religious body
the word church … is put for the persons that are ordained for the ministry of the Gospel, that is to say, the clergy
— J. Ayliffe
3: often capitalized : a body or organization of religious believers: such as
a: the whole body of Christians
the one church is the whole body gathered together from all ages
— J. H. Newman.


Merriam Webster's Dictionary proven that
Acts 15:14, 2 Chronicles 7:14 & Hebrews 13:17 is super accurate.
The people chosen to bear JEHOVAH'S name Witnesses are members of JEHOVAH'S Organization- "Organization of believers" in Jesus Christ and his Father, John 14:1 & John 17:3..

Achorladey & falseprophet are dullards typing GIBBERISH.
Enemies of the truth.
Mumu plus plus.

DappaD:


Take note that my response to your comment is only because you just came across misleading information so to help you out of that mire of confusion, I’m responding to this otherwise I couldn’t care less what the other noisemakers have put up there. Also, I find it really absurd that people who aren’t Witnesses should be able to explain clearly what “dedication” is better than those who are the real Witnesses.

Yes, before a person becomes one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, he undergoes Bible study in order to take in and assimilate knowledge of Jehovah and his Son, Jesus(John 17:3), make the needed adjustments to his life style(Romans 12:2, Ephesians 4:22-24), repents of his sins(Acts 3:19), exercises faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus(John 3:16, Hebrews 9:14-15) and then he makes a vow to Jehovah God to do his will(Psalm 40:8.) before getting baptized(1Peter 3:21) Also there are a number of things that Jehovah requires of us when he dedicate ourselves to him(Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 6:5, 10:12) so he takes our vows to serve him forever very seriously. Ecclesiastes 5:4

So contrary to what some have said, we are constantly reminded that we dedicate ourselves, not to any human or organization, but to Jehovah God himself and no one else.
Jesus himself while he was on earth dedicated his entire life to service of his Father, why can we say this? Because at John 4:34, he made a statement that sort of mirrors Psalm 40:8 that I earlier quoted where Jesus said: “My food is to do the will of him(Jehovah) who sent me” so Jehovah’s Witnesses today are also following in Jesus’ footsteps(1Peter 2:21) by dedicating our lives to serve Jehovah and being Jesus’ disciples. Matthew 16:24

achorladey:


and the abundance of your heart, fingers and mouth dont have another option than to keep responding to dullards, gibberish, mumu and enemies of truth.

Be my guest

Janosky:

JEHOVAH'S Organization- "Organization of believers" in Jesus Christ and his God/ Father, JEHOVAH. John 14:1 & John 17:3..

Bros, you know say your claims are FALSE.
Jehovah's Organization is Scriptural ,as this truth dey cause you sifia pains,so be it.

achorladey:


achorladey:


You will need to check the second baptismal question of that religious organization to see how the organization goes about its operation. In their study aid you have a chapter that states your dedication and baptism is not to an ORGANIZATION. But below is the second baptismal question


Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization
.

achorladey:


After all the above the simple question needed to be asked is, is their provision to RESIGN from this ORGANIZATION you belong?

Do you see the terms to resign as a CLAUSE Provided by GOD to break your vow?

Anyone who resigns from the ORGANIZATION, do you agree they have left God?

GOD is WTBTS. Yes/No?

These are NOISEMAKERS questions.

People sef kpakpa dey resign from Church membership, Achorladey no know say Church na Organization ?
JWs are chosen to bear Jehovah's name as JEHOVAH'S Servants, unlike others who are servants of triune pagan deities with Achorladey.

That's the difference

Janosky:



Achorladey will go to extremes to DECEIVE himself and MISLEAD the public.
He DUBIOUSLY equates WTBTS with God.

Achorladey ,where you see WTBTS in your quote of that baptismal question?

WTBTS is just a legal entity set up to fulfill the requirements of the law of Ceasar.
JWs are law-abiding, so we must do the needful.
Achorladey is aware that our name is Jehovah's witnesses, According to his own Bible, @ Isaiah 43:10-12,21 ,2 Chro7:14 &
Acts 15:14. The servants of Jehovah chosen to bear His name.
Jehovah's Servants associates with JEHOVAH'S Organization of believers.
Pronto !


People sef kpakpa dey resign from Church membership, Achorladey no know say Church na Organization ?
JWs are chosen to bear Jehovah's name as JEHOVAH'S Servants, unlike others who are servants of triune pagan deities with Achorladey.

That's the difference

Splinz:


That is serious.

Whilst there's nothing wrong in submitting to those God has appointed as leaders, in fact, we are instructed to submit to them (Hebrews 13:17), we are not told that such submission is accompanied by an oath, neither is it a requirement from God.

Perhaps the oath thing explains why people like the Op will go into abyss defending and affirming lies and falsehood, not minding what the scripture or God is actually saying. If an oath is taken to obey the so-called governing body, then heeding instructions such as 1 Thessalonians 5:21 becomes impossible. I mean how can one PROVE conscientiously what the governing body is teaching when you're under oath to remain loyal? Even if one were to prove and find anything contrary to God, but for the blind oath, such a person is technically silenced and kept under chained.

Initially I thought MaxInDHouse's lies and falsehood were products of indoctrination, ignorance and pride. But now, I think there's a new perspective to it.

You may want to take a look at this encounter https://www.nairaland.com/6616284/gods-moral-law-10-commandments/3#103054853 I had with him, to prove my claims against Max.

Janosky:

Bros, JWs don't make oath to any mortal, our dedication is to Jehovah (in accord with the Israelites @ Exodus 24:7, Romans 15:4) & His Son Jesus Christ @ John 17:5-6,21-23.

achorladey:


Anyone that resign from the organization of Jehovahs witnesses has he or she left God? Yes/No.

That is the simple question you highlighted that you cannot answer.

The legal entity is for who? Satan or Jehovah? Which one? loool

We will know soon which organization WTBTS belongs.

MaxInDHouse:
Please when a person dedicates his life to his God does that has anything to do with his fellow believers or not?

This people don't know what Jesus meant by "workers of INIQUITY" {Matthew 7:21-23} when you dedicate your life to a deity, what will serve as a guide that you're still living up to your dedication if you're not associated to any group bound together by the same line of thought?

Please brother this people have seen the way they just detest it because it's narrow they prefer the broad road where they can switch from one lane to another! Matthew 7:13-14

MaxInDHouse:
Please when a person dedicates his life to his God does that has anything to do with his fellow believers or not?

This people don't know what Jesus meant by "workers of INIQUITY" {Matthew 7:21-23} when you dedicate your life to a deity, what will serve as a guide that you're still living up to your dedication if you're not associated to any group bound together by the same line of thought?

Please brother this people have seen the way they just detest it because it's narrow they prefer the broad road where they can switch from one lane to another! Matthew 7:13-14

Janosky:

Bros,your Bible answered your questions, so continue DECEIVING yourself.
John 17:6-7 "Father,they have come to know that all the things you gave me are yours"
Acts 15:14 "God chosen people to bear His name".
Achorladey, According to your Bible, Acts 15:14 & John 17:6-7, who owns Jehovah's Organization of believers?


Achorladey equates WTBTS to God, that's how DUBIOUS he has been..

Janosky:

The comments I put up here is not about him , but to give a precise and authentic response which anyone interested in the truth or true position of things, can verify.

achorladey:


Jehovah's organization aka WTBTS. i dont need to tell you it is TRUE CLAIMS.

See as you try manipulate yourself. It should be............... Jehovah's organization-"organization of Jehovahs witnesses" aka WTBTS.

No dey use believers be specific no colour am.

Janosky:

Achorladey proven his sifia painment.
Bros, are you the license /permit that Ceasar gave to you to practice as Psychologist?
WTBTS is a license approved by Ceasar for JWs to operate legally.

Is a Professional Driver the license he is given to operate his business?

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself.

Janosky:

The comments I put up here is not about him , but to give a precise and authentic response which anyone interested in the truth or true position of things, can verify.

MaxInDHouse:
Their claim is knowing where the truth is so let them use it to unite themselves like JWs! John 17:20-23

achorladey:


wtbts is a licence approved by ceasar. Devil dey issue/approve licence to Jehovah.

That one too dey? looool!

true2god:
@ Janosky I will be back probably later in the day, or tomorrow, to erase your ignorance and the doctrinal manipulation you have been subjected by the watchtower society. Very busy now.

Janosky:

Proverbs 24:21 (ASV) My son, fear thou Jehovah and the king, but keep your reasonable distance from those who are rebellious.

Give to Ceasar his due & give to God what belongs to God.

Achorladey proven his disrespect for God given instructions in his own Bible.

Janosky:

Proverbs 24:21 (ASV) My son, fear thou Jehovah and the king, but keep your reasonable distance from those who are rebellious.

Give to Ceasar his due & give to God what belongs to God.

Achorladey proven his disrespect for God given instructions in his own Bible.

Janosky:


Bros, JWs don't make oath to any mortal, our dedication is to Jehovah (in accord with the Israelites @ Exodus 24:7, Romans 15:4) & His Son Jesus Christ @ John 17:5-6,21-23.

falseprophet:


I understand where you are coming from, JWs don't like people who reason like me, they call us apostates for refusing to cover up for a brother who commits a crime or a child molester among other things

Janosky:

The Watchtower screenshot of 1986 proven your claim is FALSE.

Janosky:

The Watchtower screenshot of 1986 proven your claim is FALSE.