Bishopkingsley:


Wait you are funny so now according to you say that Jesus said the father knows the time


Oya Show me where in the Bible the time the father put

Which is still the point I’m making. Only the Father knows the appointed time and hour. It’s not revealed to anyone. Not even the glorified Jesus!

I come quickly and I come soon does not sound like the appointed time and hour, or does it sound like one to you?

OkCornel:


Which is still the point I’m making. Only the Father knows the appointed time and hour. It’s not revealed to anyone. Not even the glorified Jesus!

I come quickly and I come soon does not sound like the appointed time and hour, or does it sound like one to you?

No you are making a mistake even if Jesus knows the time now that he has been glorified

Do you think he will say it just say the truth

If he says it now that means no one will repent until that time

You have to reason when asking what is not possible

Just because he refused to say it now doesn't mean that he doesn't know now now that he is back on the throne you see why I said you don't know Trinity

Bishopkingsley:
Just because he refused to say it now doesn't mean that he doesn't know now now that he is back on the throne you see why I said you don't know Trinity

So if he refused to say it, then why are you using “coming soon” and “come quickly” to claim the glorified Jesus knew the time and hour of his coming?

At this point, I can assume you can’t find anywhere in the scriptures that proves Jesus knows the time and hour of his coming, and you’re postulating your assumptions here as the truth.

Bishopkingsley:


No you are making a mistake even if Jesus knows the time now that he has been glorified

Do you think he will say it just say the truth

If he says it now that means no one will repent until that time

You have to reason when asking what is not possible

So why did you use “I come quickly “ and “I will come soon” as your response to my initial query as to whether the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

Are you not already adding to the scriptures by assuming the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

OkCornel:


So if he refused to say it, then why are you using “coming soon” and “come quickly” to claim the glorified Jesus knew the time and hour of his coming?

At this point, I can assume you can’t find anywhere in the scriptures that proves Jesus knows the time and hour of his coming, and you’re postulating your assumptions here as the truth.

Why do you find it hard to understand

Even if Jesus knows now he will not tell you

Look at where your mind is in

You so you did not think that knowing the time will make people to be doing evil until that time comes then they will repent

You don't know that knowing the hour will make people die in sin


This is just common sense that why I said show me the time God put since God the father knows

Bishopkingsley:


First off, you told us God entered Mary, died and later became the Holy Spirit.

What I mean from above is when Jesus died the third person to appear to continue the work of God on earth was the holy spirit

Am sorry If I sounded like Jesus turned to holy spirit

Now this makes more sense

OkCornel:


So why did you use “I come quickly “ and “I will come soon” as your response to my initial query as to whether the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

Are you not already adding to the scriptures by assuming the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

I come quickly means I know that the time is short and I know the time

OkCornel:


Now this makes more sense

He does not need to turn because he is already the holy spirit in the third dimension

Bishopkingsley:


Why do you find it hard to understand

Even if Jesus knows now he will not tell you

Look at where your mind is in

You so you did not think that knowing the time will make people to be doing evil until that time comes then they will repent

You don't know that knowing the hour will make people die in sin


This is just common sense that why I said show me the time God put since God the father knows

There’s nothing hard here, I’m just here thinking you know something so serious the Apostles don’t know, or didn’t bother to write down given how important it is.

That’s why I’m asking from the point Jesus ascended and was glorified, where did the Apostles get divine revelation and wrote in the scriptures from Acts to Revelation that the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return but will not reveal it. I’d just like to know where.

Bishopkingsley:


He does not need to turn because he is already the holy spirit in the third dimension

Oh my God! Facepalm.

Bishopkingsley:


I come quickly means I know that the time is short and I know the time

Like seriously? I come quickly means Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

OkCornel:


There’s nothing hard here, I’m just here thinking you know something so serious the Apostles don’t know, or didn’t bother to write down given how important it is.

That’s why I’m asking from the point Jesus ascended and was glorified, where did the Apostles get divine revelation and wrote in the scriptures from Acts to Revelation that the glorified Jesus knows the time and hour of his return but will not reveal it. I’d just like to know where.

God placed everything under Jesus does that not tell you something

Is time not included in everything

It is Jesus who will do the fighting by himself

Everything is under his control his name is higher than all names

OkCornel:


Like seriously? I come quickly means Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

If your dad tells you that he is coming quickly does that mean he doesn't know when to come

Bishopkingsley:


God placed everything under Jesus does that not tell you something

Is time not included in everything

It is Jesus who will do the fighting by himself

Everything is under his control his name is higher than all names

Please pull out the scriptures you’re inferring this from to be sure you’re not quoting verses out of context.

Bishopkingsley:


If your dad tells you that he is coming quickly does that mean he doesn't know when to come

As long as quickly doesn’t mean 2,000 years.

Quickly does not connote a specific date and time. Just a timeframe he has in mind.

Again, use the scriptures from Acts to Revelation to prove to us that the glorified Jesus knows the appointed date and time like the Father.

Did Paul or Peter or James or Jude or John write something in their epistles I missed?

OkCornel:


Please pull out the scriptures you’re inferring this from to be sure you’re not quoting verses out of context.

Revelation 19:11-21.
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice, he judges and wages war."
This verse refers to Jesus bringing judgment against evil in the world after he returns to Earth. The white horse that Jesus rides symbolically depicts the holy and pure power that Jesus has to overcome evil with good.

Ephesians 1:22

God has put all things under the authority of Christ and has made him head over all things for the benefit of the church.

Philippians 2:9
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,

In the Bible book of Revelation there are many expressions but first we need to study the whole Bible before we can fully understand each expression and who exactly is speaking.

The statement "i am coming quickly" is Jesus' voice but Jesus is coming as an executioner SENT by the Almighty God.

When the angel representing God told Abraham "i am journeying to Sodom and Gomorrah" of course everyone will think God Almighty was actually the one going there but that statement means God's angels will go there to execute God's judgment.

Likewise when God's angel was leading the Israelites through the wilderness Moses made us realize that God is the one leading them through His representative who is the angel.

That's exactly what will happen when Jesus is coming to execute judgment on this wicked world, he is coming as a representative of the Almighty not the Almighty Himself!

OkCornel:

Like seriously? I come quickly means Jesus knows the time and hour of his return?

OkCornel:


As long as quickly doesn’t mean 2,000 years.

Quickly does not connote a specific date and time. Just a timeframe he has in mind.

Again, use the scriptures from Acts to Revelation to prove to us that the glorified Jesus knows the appointed date and time like the Father.

Did Paul or Peter or James or Jude or John write something in their epistles I missed?

Oh my God even as you said the father knows then show me where the father specified the time

Bishopkingsley:


Revelation 19:11-21.
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice, he judges and wages war."
This verse refers to Jesus bringing judgment against evil in the world after he returns to Earth. The white horse that Jesus rides symbolically depicts the holy and pure power that Jesus has to overcome evil with good.

Ephesians 1:22

God has put all things under the authority of Christ and has made him head over all things for the benefit of the church.

Philippians 2:9
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,

So in all these verses you quoted, where did you infer Jesus got dominion over time for the purpose of knowing the appointed time and hour of his return?

Is that what the scriptures state in context? Or is this your own understanding you’re inserting into the scriptures?

MaxInDHouse:
In the Bible book of Revelation there are many expressions but first we need to study the whole Bible before we can fully understand each expression and who exactly is speaking.

The statement "i am coming quickly" is Jesus' voice but Jesus is coming as an executioner SENT by the Almighty God.

When the angel representing God told Abraham "i am journeying to Sodom and Gomorrah" of course everyone will think God Almighty was actually the one going there but that statement means God's angels will go there to execute God's judgment.

Likewise when God's angel was leading the Israelites through the wilderness Moses made us realize that God is the one leading them through His representative who is the angel.

That's exactly what will happen when Jesus is coming to execute judgment on this wicked world, he is coming as a representative of the Almighty not the Almighty Himself!

MaxInDHouse
my brother I really hope you won't abuse here remember to be civil I plead with you

OkCornel:


So in all these verses you quoted, where did you infer Jesus got dominion over time for the purpose of knowing the appointed time and hour of his return?

Is that what the scriptures state in context? Or is this your own understanding you’re inserting into the scriptures?

I asked you before is time not among everything

Time is a name

Time and Jesus which is higher

Bishopkingsley:


Oh my God even as you said the father knows then show me where the father specified the time

SMH, the Father knows the time, but revealed it to nobody. No priest, prophet, Apostle or his Son Jesus.

I’m still waiting for you to show us where Jesus knows the appointed time and hour of his return just as the Father knows. And up till now, no scriptural reference.

OkCornel:


SMH, the Father knows the time, but revealed it to nobody. No priest, prophet, Apostle or his Son Jesus.

I’m still waiting for you to show us where Jesus knows the appointed time and hour of his return just as the Father knows. And up till now, no scriptural reference.

That means you don't know who Jesus is after he rose from the dead

If you set the rules please lead by your own rules, i don't need to tell you much about myself, OkCornel can say few things about me.
I always thread cautiously but then whoever wants to intimidate me simply because i come as a preacher i'll show him or her that i'm not a robot!

Bishopkingsley:

MaxInDHouse
my brother I really hope you won't abuse here remember to be civil I plead with you

MaxInDHouse:
If you set the rules please lead by your own rules, i don't need to tell you much about myself, OkCornel can say few things about me.
I always thread cautiously but then whoever wants to intimidate me simply because i come as a preacher i'll show him or her that i'm not a robot!

If I tell you that you lie that the idea is not in Bible that is not an abuse I have told you it not so it up to you to know what abuse is

Please keep to English definition of abuse

Bishopkingsley:


I asked you before is time not among everything

Time is a name

Time and Jesus which is higher

Let me make it very easy for you, because what you are explaining here is your understanding, not the scriptures.

Here are two scriptural references pointing to the Father knowing the appointed time and hour;

Matthew 24 v 36;
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1 v 6-7;
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.


Only the Father knows the appointed time and hour which is revealed to nobody as evidenced in the scriptures.

Now please give us scriptural references that proves the glorified Jesus knows the appointed date and time like the Father does. No plenty explanation, scriptural references that shows us Jesus also knows.

Thank you.

Bishopkingsley:


That means you don't know who Jesus is after he rose from the dead

Are you implying after Jesus rose from the dead, he knew the appointed time and hour of his return ?

OkCornel:


Let me make it very easy for you, because what you are explaining here is your understanding, not the scriptures.

Here are two scriptural references pointing to the Father knowing the appointed time and hour;

Matthew 24 v 36;
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1 v 6-7;
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.


Only the Father knows the appointed time and hour which is revealed to nobody as evidenced in the scriptures.

Now please give us scriptural references that proves the glorified Jesus knows the appointed date and time like the Father does. No plenty explanation, scriptural references that shows us Jesus also knows.

Thank you.

Acts 1 v 6-7;
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

I Believe that should be after he rose

Did he say he does not know the father is inside Jesus now so what are you saying or trying to manipulate

Bishopkingsley:


I asked you before is time not among everything

Time is a name

Time and Jesus which is higher

Is Yahweh not also a name? Is Jesus now greater than Yahweh? I thought the head of Christ is God as 1 Corinthians 11 v 3 clearly explains

Facepalm.

OkCornel:


Are you implying after Jesus rose from the dead, he knew the appointed time and hour of his return ?

Yes now he has become the express image of God he is God he is God the son

Bishopkingsley:


Acts 1 v 6-7;
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

I Believe that should be after he rose

Did he say he does not know the father is inside Jesus now so what are you saying or trying to manipulate

I’m not manipulating anything, I’m merely allowing the scriptures speak for itself without me inserting my doctrines or bias into it.

Now let’s allow God’s word speak for itself. Where in the scriptures does it state the glorified now Jesus knows the appointed date and time as the Father knows?