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My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jul 10, 2021
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:26pm On Jul 10, 2021
Jesusjnr2020 and Righteousness2 come and answer

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Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by livingchrist: 2:31pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?
The simple answer is Yes. Without Jesus every one is lost,

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



This is unapologetically the truth

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Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Heartbender: 2:33pm On Jul 10, 2021
That is why evangelism is the heartbeat of God. If all the appliances you made do not conform to the standards you have put in them and as such are unfit to be used for purpose, will you still ship them with the good ones? Won't you discard them?
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jul 10, 2021
livingchrist:

The simple answer is Yes. Without Jesus every one is lost,

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



This is unapologetically the truth
so what about others, what about those who haven't heard about jesus before, those humans of old who died without the salvation.... seriously christainity is messed up
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by TheSourcerer: 2:40pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?
how dare you bring logic into religion.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:42pm On Jul 10, 2021
Heartbender:
That is why evangelism is the heartbeat of God. If all the appliances you made do not conform to the standards you have put in them and as such are unfit to be used for purpose, will you still ship them with the good ones? Won't you discard them?
for instance, assuming you are a christain for many years and the moment you just mistakely sinned u die or the rapture took place, will u go to heaven
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:44pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?

From the look of things, yes, they will be put in the lake of Fire.

And they are going there not because of Christianity but because they Hate and Disregard God!

It is as simple as that!
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jul 10, 2021
TheSourcerer:
how dare you bring logic into religion.
in all things use wisdom, even jesus used wisdom in handling most cases..... so why won't i
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Heartbender: 2:46pm On Jul 10, 2021
No. God cannot behold iniquity. That is why there is no repentance in the grave
Model404:
for instance, assuming you are a christain for many years and the moment you just mistakely sinned u die or the rapture took place, will u go to heaven
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jul 10, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


From the look of things, yes, they will be put in the lake of Fire.

And they are going there not because of Christianity but because they Hate and Disregard God!

It is as simple as that!
hmmm, but why will he be so cruel and unfair to punish someone for a lifetime(everlasting)
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:49pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
so what about others, what about those who haven't heard about jesus before, those humans of old who died without the salvation.... seriously christainity is messed up

First, At a point in life, they knew about God's Laws because, Most of them are Natural Laws, so if and where they disobeyed those Laws, they already have a case to answer.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:49pm On Jul 10, 2021
Heartbender:
No. God cannot behold iniquity. That is why there is no repentance in the grave
so all those years of service just wasted. what a partiality
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 10, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


First, At a point in life, they knew about God's Laws because, Most of them are Natural Laws, so if and where they disobeyed those Laws, they already have a case to answer.
seriously, as humans we are bound to make mistake
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:58pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
hmmm, but why will he be so cruel and unfair to punish someone for a lifetime(everlasting)

Cruel and unfair? When your husband penetrated your sister, tell me, did you not wish them eternal death and suffering, AT THAT MOMENT?

Is that not what you call "Just is" (Justice)?

That is One Of the Facts that makes God Very Very Fearfull, because "Just Is" Will and Must be Done.

And this is just the Just is, that you require for ONE OFFENCES ONLY!

So how many "Just Is'es" do you think people have accommodated from their youth up, which they are going to pay, when ALL THEIR OFFENCES CALLED UP?

Eternity, may not have covered it, if not that it is eternity, so it will cover it.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Dtruthspeaker: 3:02pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
seriously, as humans we are bound to make mistake

That is why God, gave us the Gift of the Collection of His Words, the Bible, so that we can stop making 'mistakes'.

And we can if we really do not want to. It is accomplishable, the same way we accomplished every other purpose which we set for ourselves and we thought it necessary to accomplish.

No matter the price.

But we did it anyway!
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:05pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?

Good afternoon my name is Maximus and i'm one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Please what is your understanding about the word "Hell" ?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by livingchrist: 3:07pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
so what about others, what about those who haven't heard about jesus before, those humans of old who died without the salvation.... seriously christainity is messed up

They died without knowing Christ because they rejected God just as in this generation even though christ is preached to them yet many will die without christ.
God left a witness for every man namely, the creation itself, man's conscience, naturally laws all these things were met to point people to God,
Those who come to God the father, he would lead them to the son.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You see only the father determines who and who will come to Christ.

No body preached Christ to Abraham but God himself.

John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.


So, God has always being around from the beginning and close to every human but the problem is people always reject him.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by sonmvayina(m): 3:07pm On Jul 10, 2021
God created us with two inclinations..inclination to do good and inclination to do evil or sin. So any body talking about hell is just a slowpoke...
God also told us that he has given us the power to rule over sin.
Even if we do sin, sincere repentance is the only way back to God. Not worshipping or given your life to a god the romans created in the image of a man. That is classic idolatry.


Run from it..
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Ihedinobi3: 3:09pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
so what about others, what about those who haven't heard about jesus before, those humans of old who died without the salvation.... seriously christainity is messed up

Hi there.

I'm just being a bit opportunistic here, so feel free to ignore me if you prefer.

The question regarding those who never heard of Jesus has never, to my knowledge, ever taken into account what the Bible says about God's plan for the human beings that He created.

God made human beings with a special quality that only angels among all His many creations possess: free will. Why is this the case? In short, it is to give these two classes of creatures--humans and angels--an opportunity to decide what their relationship to God will be. No other creature has that choice. It is specifically the possession of this quality that makes us unique among everything that exists in the physical universe.

Now, because God wants everyone to choose, He provides us with opportunities to do so that do not deny us the chance to say no to Him. For example, we know that God gave Jesus Christ to die for the sins of every human being that has ever existed or will ever exist, but we also know that only those who care about such things bother to ask about them. Most people would rather not be confronted with the gospel. It annoys them to be told about it. Consider for an example the many atheists that show up on this platform to quarrel about Christians who start preaching to them out of nowhere and warning them about hellfire.

Is God supposed then to breach these people's free will choice to be left alone? Of course, He has no such responsibility. In spite of the fact that He doesn't, He has always given each person enough to awaken a hunger for the gospel in them.

Every human being wakes up to a universe filled with inexhaustible experiences that continue to declare the existence of a God to them to whom we must all answer. When we look up at the sky, there is a response in our own hearts that says that something made that vast stretch of endless blue or gray or black. When we run into trees or rivers or happen on the vast ocean, something tells us that there is something behind them. The question is are we interested in finding out why that thing behind them made them?

For the vast majority of people, the answer is no. They don't care what is behind creation. They only care about what they can get for themselves, so they make all sorts of excuses and buy into all kinds of lies that allow them to do whatever they prefer to do without answering to anyone but their own selves. One might argue that believing in another god other than Jesus does not mean that we are choosing to answer to ourselves only, but when anyone chooses to believe a demonstrable lie, then they are rejecting the authority of an objective power that they did not create. They choose to believe something that lines up with their own way of seeing life.

The world you see around you is our first introduction to God. If we accept it as such, we will be naturally led to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Those who don't come to the gospel are those who rejected that introduction in the first place. If they did, then they would not accept the gospel either. Therefore, they are not saved. Is this "messed up"? I, for one, don't see how it is. I believe that everyone should make their choice and take what comes with it.

On the other hand, before 2/1 BC, the man Jesus Christ did not exist. What then was the lot of the people who did not know Him? Well, before Jesus Christ of Nazareth was born, God Himself had prophesied to the parents of all humanity that He would be born to save the world from the tyranny of Satan and even showed them how He would do it with the bloody sacrifice of the first animal in the Garden of Eden. This was handed down from parent to child throughout the generations of humanity until God even created a whole nation to preserve that knowledge in humanity until this Savior was born.

Everyone who believed that Promise was marked by God as His Own until the Savior would come. When they died, they did not go to the same place that those who did not believe it went although they did not go to Heaven either. They were kept in a place called "Paradise" until Jesus came and took them to Heaven after His death on the Cross.

So, the same principle applied then. If anyone wanted to be saved, they would follow from the clear witness of creation that there is a God to come to the promise of the Savior that would make them acceptable to God again in order to be saved. This is why God called Abraham and created Israel. If people don't want to be saved, they will not listen to creation around them and they will not seek the Gospel, and when the Gospel is given to them, they will still reject it. That is not God's fault. It is people's own choice that they have been given the right to make by God Himself.

Again, I don't see how that is messed up. I think that it is extremely gracious of God to do that for us.

Cheers.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Splinz(m): 3:12pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
so what about others, what about those who haven't heard about jesus before, those humans of old who died without the salvation....

Understand that both the living and the dead will be given the opportunity to understand the mystery of the kingdom of heaven, and by that understanding receive eternal life if they retain that knowledge.

And for your information, the promise of God has always been ETERNAL LIFE OR DEATH (John 3:16). Life is life and death is death. How is one death when such person is still living, supposedly inside hell fire? Is life & death the same thing? It is common sense.

Paul feared that the saints will be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (II Corinthians 11:3) and that fear was not misguided. Indeed, wicked people not satisfied with the simplicity of just dying for all eternity came up with nonsense fairy tale, actually pagan belief, of sinners living, being roasted and tortured in hell fire.

Again, is death & life the same thing? Are they not opposites?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by livingchrist: 3:13pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
for instance, assuming you are a christain for many years and the moment you just mistakely sinned u die or the rapture took place, will u go to heaven
This is false, Jesus said he gives eternal life to his sheep and they will never perish.
As long as a Christian is in the truth of the gospel he would be washed by the blood of christ.

John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

You see as as long as a Christian continues in the light of the gospel the blood of Jesus will always cleanse him from all sins such person can never perish or miss the rapture.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Ihedinobi3: 3:39pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
for instance, assuming you are a christain for many years and the moment you just mistakely sinned u die or the rapture took place, will u go to heaven

We neither go to heaven nor go to hell because we sinned. If it were our sins that God judged like that, then nobody would be in Heaven with God at all. We all sin all the time in all kinds of ways (James 3:2).

It is only faith in Jesus Christ or the lack thereof that decides where we end up. If we continue to believe until we die or to believe until the Lord Jesus returns, we will be with God in eternity. Otherwise, we will not be. See John 3:16,18.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by kingxsamz(m): 4:42pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?

Yes, according to the Christian doctrine, not being a Christian automatically disqualifies you from 'their heaven'.
Now, if you want to check those who actually obey the Christian commandment strictly, that's probably like %10 of Christians.
Now if you want to check those who might be caught off guard when their rapture happens, that's like %5 because even a little lie can make you miss the heaven and you'd have to repent like every 30minutes. This strict rule also applies to children. Most of them will burn for eternity.
So in conclusion, if their heaven exists, only about 200k of the world's population would enter.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Nobody: 4:47pm On Jul 10, 2021
kingxsamz:


Yes, according to the Christian doctrine, not being a Christian automatically disqualifies you from 'their heaven'.
Now, if you want to check those who actually obey the Christian commandment strictly, that's probably like %10 of Christians.
Now if you want to check those who might be caught off guard when their rapture happens, that's like %5 because even a little lie can make you miss the heaven and you'd have to repent like every 30minutes.
So in conclusion, if their heaven exists, only about 200k of the world's population would enter.
thats the point am making here, why will a 'God' make a 'h*ll' just to punish people who didn't worship him everlasting. like seriously?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by bobestman(m): 4:58pm On Jul 10, 2021
The lies usually comes first and is allowed to expire before the truth comes to overtake it. What they preached in Churchianity and sold to African was the corrupted teachings of the true Messiah. Their lies will expire this endtime when the truth comes and the truth comes with correction and judgement that begins from them.

Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:01pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Jesusjnr2020 and Righteousness2 come and answer
Changed my mind.

Went through the Op's comments and saw someone not willing to learn but with an already fixed mindset.

So no point.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?

MaxInDHouse:


Good afternoon my name is Maximus and i'm one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Please what is your understanding about the word "Hell" ?
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by kingxsamz(m): 5:43pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
thats the point am making here, why will a 'God' make a 'h*ll' just to punish people who didn't worship him everlasting. like seriously?

Lol.
An all powerful being punishing little kids in an everlasting furnace forever just because of little disobedience or a little lie. In order to prove what exactly? To achieve what purpose? To teach what lesson to who?
The moment you realize all these things are man's made up ideas in order to keep people in fear, the better for you. Take away 'hell' from religion and it has nothing to hold on to.

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Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Image123(m): 6:20pm On Jul 10, 2021
kingxsamz:


Lol.
An all powerful being punishing little kids in an everlasting furnace forever just because of little disobedience or a little lie. In order to prove what exactly? To achieve what purpose? To teach what lesson to who?
The moment you realize all these things are man's made up ideas in order to keep people in fear, the better for you. Take away 'hell' from religion and it has nothing to hold on to.

yinmu. i watched all the hell fire movies and missing rapture films growing up and never gave my life to Christ. Point is, not everyone repents because of hell. Desist from hasty generalisation.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Image123(m): 6:25pm On Jul 10, 2021
Model404:
Does it mean that almost all the world's population will go to hell without being a christain?.........
if you look at it from this angle, the world's population of christains isn't up to 50% of the total population.
so does it mean they will all go to hell?

Are they too many to go? Don't overrate yourself.

Isa 40:15  Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing. 
Isa 40:17  All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity. 
Isa 40:18  To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? 

Isa_5:14  Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Pro_27:20  Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
Re: My Thoughts About Christainity by Image123(m): 6:28pm On Jul 10, 2021
kingxsamz:


Yes, according to the Christian doctrine, not being a Christian automatically disqualifies you from 'their heaven'.
Now, if you want to check those who actually obey the Christian commandment strictly, that's probably like %10 of Christians.
Now if you want to check those who might be caught off guard when their rapture happens, that's like %5 because even a little lie can make you miss the heaven and you'd have to repent like every 30minutes. This strict rule also applies to children. Most of them will burn for eternity.
So in conclusion, if their heaven exists, only about 200k of the world's population would enter.

Be wise to join the 200k. We're not up to 200k on the top.

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