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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:47pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
airmark:The reason is simple He's no longer anywhere near good enough to continue being backed the way you back him. 2014-16 he was very good and I would have taken him at Chelsea but after that it's just not been good enough. You have to accept that. Remember our discourses on Morata. Bikeman kept on mentioning me when I refused to admit that a 70m keeper would flop so badly. Eventually you have to let go. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 1:09pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Ibime: Of course Jorginho will never start at Barca 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 1:14pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Same line of thought I will break this down one last time Havertz arrived with no preseason, Lampard immediately started playing him in different positions, he wasn't accustomed to our league so he struggled Lampard eventually chose to play him as an 8 to accomodate mount This isn't the origin of many people's dislike for mount, mine began the previous season, I used to like mount alot but at a certain point I noticed that he wasn't providing anything, decided to check and I was correct, started disliking the guy, noticed that there were other Chelsea fans that felt that he wasn't good enough, so I congregated there When havertz was signed the gist then was that he was signed to replace mount, many people don't like mount so when people initially started trolling havertz, it divided supporters of the club, and we have remained divided till today Back to Lampard, he kept playing havertz out of position, most of us that liked him kept insisting that havertz plays 10 but Lampard wouldn't, kept forcing havert to adapt to 8 so he can accommodate mount it's at this point that I started coming here often, noticed that many people here attacked havertz and hyped mount, my goal was simple, present the data for all to see I had already given up on Lampard the previous season, was never fully sold on the guy, always felt that he wasn't good enough, particularly as he was bias, people like that aren't sensible and therefore aren't good enough I started campaigning for his removal, a new manager comes, plays havertz in a position that suits his skills and he starts to excel, began to have impact in games and singlehandly win games, I knew that he would excel at the euros, player that is good is good, he may lose form but when he hits form, forget I have no worries about havertz, i'm 100% confident that many people will swallow L on his matter, most of you don't know the kind of player that he is ![]() I hope I don't have to explain havertz's season again for anyone 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:19pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Fans of Bruno, KDB and Pogba don’t need epistle to tell the world how talented and good those players are. ![]() ![]() Mount can’t bench KDB, Bruno and Pogba, he benched a player of 75m+ under two managers. That’s enough to pass a message. He’s better than Fraudvertz. ![]() 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 1:24pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MercylessMercy: 1:53pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Havertz10: You made a brilliant point but laced it with that okoto that Havertz created that UCL goal for himself. The pass fell from heaven I know and you could read Mount mind to affirm He won't have passed in such situation. That last paragraph is meaningless in the scheme of discussion too. That is off football matter you read meaning to. Mount numbers are miserable and you can stick to that and hammer you point. You will be right in that frame of discussion but that UCL assist you can't downplay it importance, it is the same as the goal Peace love and Spaghetti 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 1:58pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 2:00pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
donstan18:at this point you are just clutching at straws, you no get argument again Euro is finished and mount didn't score a single goal, Germans are discussing building their team around havertz, British fans are saying that mount shouldn't start for England again, your agenda is dead but you will shamelessly push on ![]() There is a point that you would cross that people will read your post as comic relief instead of insightful, you have crossed that line weeks ago, notice how you are alone dragging havertz Cowards can only like and spur you on but they wouldn't risk putting their name behind such endeavour 11 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MercylessMercy: 2:01pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
On this thread a defender success is measured by showing his UCL trophy, walaha for him if he no complete the final o. For a DM however, it has to be a league trophy and PFA team of the season. UCL doesn't matter to these category of players. Well what did I kuku know ![]() ![]() ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:10pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
A player that cost 75m+ Trying to measure up with an academy player says a lot. ![]() ![]() ![]() 11 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jamie90(m): 2:11pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Maradona died and Messi won an international trophy Eusebio died and CR7 won an international trophy Neymar looking at Pele...��� 11 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
I have seen people blaming the decision to choose Saka as one of the shooters. Ideally I dont think Saka would have been chosen but in that type of high pressure final, At home with the pressure I wont be shocked if some senior players declined or were already jittery which forced the coach's hand I know this from experience Champions League final 2012 Ideally Bayern top 5 shooters would be Robben, Gomez, Alaba Ribery Schweinsteiger In the final, Robben already missed a penalty in full time and the coach didn't want to risk him shooting another vs Cech, Alaba was suspended for the final, Ribery left the game injured, Muller was already substituted Older and more experienced players like Tymoschuk and Van Buyten were hiding So the coach had to pick 5 and included Neuer a keeper and Kroos however Kroos declined to shoot because he was scared so Olic had to take the penalty which he missed That was one of the reasons for Bayern not matching Kroos salary demand a year later since he was deemed not a leader. Van Buyten and Tymoschuk contracts were not renewed too. I strongly suspect senior players in England were hiding from penalties and Saka had to step up 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jamie90(m): 2:33pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter: When Saka took the ball, I was 100% sure he will miss, even Donarumma knew. Maybe the fear of other senior player who refused to play rubbed off on him..... He was so jittery. Na Sancho use confidence play nonsense 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:38pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 2:40pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Jorginho made the most interceptions in European Championship history this tournament - 25, a new all time record. He also made the most interceptions in Chelsea’s Champions League winning campaign. What an incredible year he’s had. 13 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:46pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Xhaka over Jorginho? 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 2:55pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Jamie90: Saka and Bellotti I was certain they’ll miss for some reasons in myself do not know ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 2:59pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Firstly the way the whole game and penalty decision was handled proved England lacks the mental toughness during clutch moments. From the coaching staff to the players, there is an obvious lack of mental toughness. The mentality of the entire squad is WEAK and they nearly escaped with a trophy and no one would have remembered it. Your take is a big fact! Take a look at England during the huddle when Southgate with his paper and pen was speaking, I saw players raise their hands or point to their chest indicating interest to play PK or responding to their names being called. I did not see Saka around that area which is normal because he had never kicked a PK for Arsenal, so I imagine he would have been shocked to hear his name. At Arsenal he is a creator, not necessarily a scorer. The only way Saka would have volunteered to take that PK is after he has seen everyone else hide from the responsibility. That kid has got some mental strength, I can assure you of that. Or is he supposed to say No after Southgate mentions his name? I think Southgate was hoping England by luck win the shootout before the 5th. Sterling has a terrible penalty record for City, I think he is 1/4, Grealish is worse.. So I imagine those two did not want anything to do with taking penalties especially knowing it’s for a cup, playing for their national team and the jitters were evident. Should Kane have taken the first penalty or the last PK? That is another debate.. The only player who approached the PK with confidence was Magawaya a.k.a FRIDGE and you can see the way he dispatched his own kick. The others looked scared to death. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:00pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
donstan18: How much better can Ibime’s Monday get? 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PendragonVII: 3:01pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter: I said I wanted to take one!!!! The gaffer has made so many right decisions through this tournament and he did tonight! But I won’t have people say that I didn’t want to take a peno when I said I will… https:///3mBpKyMoUV — Jack Grealish (@JackGrealish) July 12, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:12pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
PendragonVII: Statistically Grealish has taken only 1 penalty his entire career back in January 2016 in division 2. So what reason will make a coach select a 25yr old player who has hardly taken one his entire career? while Saka at 19yrs has taken 2 though 1 in a NT friendly and 1 in a youth FA cup |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:14pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
donstan18:I'm tempted to say polling booth award but it will discredit the worthy inclusions. Xhaka had a good tournament his inclusion is debatable but not out of place, he was the driving force behind the Swiss midfield that dominated France and had them eliminated. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:18pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Those senior guys were hiding. Nobody wanted to be the next Batty, Psycho, or Southgate. The manager himself still has PTSD from the 1996 debacle so he might have subconsciously infused his players with fear. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:19pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
@raumdeuter and other please follow the link, watch the video and tell me what you see Southgate doing. It confirms my first post. http://payperwatch.net/news/soccershighlights/comments/oioadz/southgate_informing_the_penaltykick_takers_of_the/ |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:20pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:22pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
afrodoc2:They performed so well. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 3:23pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Amoto94:Jorginho and Hojberg were better. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:24pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Roland17: My focus is on players like Sterling Stones and Henderson see what Keane said here https://www.90min.com/in/posts/roy-keane-blasts-senior-england-players-for-letting-saka-take-decisive-penalty I assume when its time for penalties, Minus Kane, Sancho and Rashford the later 2 subbed specifically for penalties, Maguire and Saka probably wont be the top picks but if other senior players were hiding what can you do As a coach you see penalties your senior players are hiding their faces, pretending to be looking somewhere else, avoiding eye contact, they dont need to tell you that they are scared and unless you get to sudden death where everyone has to take then its better to avoid them. You know when a lecturer ask question in class and everyone is hiding their faces or forming minor activity so he wont call you Big ups to Saka for standing up to shoot when chickenshit elders were hiding, I hope he comes out of this stronger. I will rather you shoot and lose than hide at key moments See this clip below of Ronaldo having t do Dr Phil motivation on a senior player like Moutinho at 29yrs when a 19yr old Renato already stood up and shot his kick ![]() Assuming Moutinho missed now, we will be asking why a scared person was forced to shoot. Ronaldo is not guaranteed to score but he will never shy away neither will a Ramos 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:29pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Roland17: You see that players like Henderson and Sterling were not even in consideration despite being much senior. See Stones too in front of Southgate looking |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:31pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Yeah I remember Southgate, The only thing I remember about his career was his penalty miss vs Germany I am just pissed at those people who want to make Saka the scapegoat and fall guy for their senior guys hiding 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 3:36pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Jack Grealish with all his dribbling swagger was waiting for Southgate to come and call him. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:38pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
afrodoc2: Come dey lie give us say he put hand up ![]() |
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