You people should stop brainwasing us, we know say we get our own, but make politician enforce true and uncompromised anticorruption act.

Another fact that you will understand clearly if you thoroughly study Nigeria's history and read between the lines: Nigeria is a victim of Fulani agenda versus Igbo agenda right from day one.

Don't rush to agree or disagree based on any sentiment. Just study and observe.

Was it the people who ended slavery or was it politicians?

Was it the people who ended segregation or was. The politicians?

Was it the people who ended colonialism or was it the politicians?

Was it the people who discovered oil or was it the politicians?

Fashola introduced LAWMA and cleaned up Lagos , Ambode came to fix what wasn’t broken by removing LAWMA and introducing VISIONSCAPE Lagos turned to a dustbin state

LAWMA is back but the dirts are still everywhere

Everywhere in the world Government shapes behavior ... Nigerians are only doing what government has allowed them do

27Pushing30:
Was it the people who ended slavery or was it politicians?

Was it the people who ended segregation or was. The politicians?

Was it the people who ended colonialism or was it the politicians?

Was it the people who discovered oil or was it the politicians?

Fashola introduced LAWMA and cleaned up Lagos , Ambode came to fix what wasn’t broken by removing LAWMA and introducing VISIONSCAPE Lagos turned to a dustbin state

LAWMA is back but the dirts are still everywhere

Everywhere in the world Government shapes behavior ... Nigerians are only doing what government has allowed them do

Was Ambode born as a politician? Is Fashola's family name Government? The government is the people. The government is a reflection of the aggregate of the people. You see a problem with the government, look at the people as a whole. Nigerians are reaping the collective fruits of individual efforts as a people.

Arrewa:
Nigeria problem has a historical background!!

Which tribe started tribalism?? Which tribe tried to conquer Nigeria?? Which tribe Annexed Nigeria by introducing unitary system inorder to take full control??

The only reasons Azikiwe orchestrated a coup against the then govt of Tafa Belewa was because the COR region was set to be carved out from the then defunct eastern region. And with the lure of oil money at stake, Azikiwe ordered his thugs in he army to overthrow the govt and from there roll out an Igbo dictatorship under a powerful central govt.

Igbos will deny this but Decree 34 was the deadly blow that killed regionalism, put an end to COR region and gave birth to the exploitative centrist govt.

Have you asked why Ojukwu supported the abolition of regional governance and forced unification under Ironsi's Igbo dictatorship but later began clamouring for a return to regionalism 5mths later in Aburi?

Tell an Igbo man as a Niger Deltan that you agree with Nigeria's dissolution but will rather have a separate nation for the Niger Delta and watch him insult you and say "is Niger Delta a tribe"?

After the successful Igbo coup, Adaka Boro led a revolt to leave Nigeria entirely . Who clamped down on that secessionist movement? The Igbos under Ironsi with Ojukwu commanding the military offensive.
You are not in any way victims of Nigeria but the main arch villains.

70% of igbos allow emotions be cloud them rather than actual facts. Even when the know the truth emotion get the best of them!!

Only the jallos have the intellectual capacity to counter the igbos in Africa...

They also want to be us... They want to dominate too. They want the power too.

They love superiority.... But only the Fulanis are stoping them!!

I used to tell my Dad....That one Nigeria is a logical fallacy, a myth and a folktale.

The only solution is to come together and end Nigeria!!!

If we fail to divide this country now... The HausaFulanis you hate and despise are getting stronger than ever before!!!

The New Generation of Hausa/Fulanis are going to be brutal on the south when we finally find ourselves in the corridor of power!!

Because we are more intelligent, more sophisticated and more smarter than our parents... And not too religious!!

We have no shortage of rugged intelligent souls!!

So it's better for all the igbos to start supporting Nnamdi kanu now...

Cos with the level of this hatred you've displayed...if Nigeria fail to divide!!!

Hmmmm, Da magana.....

Kaifa daqiqi ne, angaya ma intelligence ne ke bama mutane mulki?
Wawa, Allah ke bada mulki ga wanda yaso
A rage cika baki a rike addini kada Allah ya daura kafirai a kanmu...
mtse

Stupidquestions:
This is not true. Exactly what the politicians want us to think so that we won't all march on the street and chase them away.
.
There is always potential for corruption and backwardness in all society. But it's the 100% duty of a government to ensure the country has a national culture and value that lead to progress and order. And there's a strategic way every successful country does that
.
At independence, it was the leaders who effected the whole process, They are 100% responsible in the direction our country took, because they are on the driving seat driving it where they wish.
.
To drive a society to a sane, prosperous end, governance comes first before followership. Governance and leadership shows the way the followers should follow...through:

1. Visionary and exemplary leadership

2. Strong justice system that will punish crimes and corruption at all times.

3. Purpose oriented education designed to mould citizens from young to adult about patriotism, dignity of labor, hardwork, accountability and all manners of values and interests of life.
.
4. Solid policy with guaranteed enforcement process.
.
5. Social and economic equity that put the welfare of citizens in front burner.

6. Value for talents, excellence and integrity, while promoting and protecting the dignity of labour
.
7. Strong security system that respect due process and rule of law that the citizen can trust at any given time...
.
Now tell me, is it the common man that will ensure all this parameters are functioning in a society or the institutions of governance? Our politicians failed woefully in that regard. So don't expect the followers to not fail.
.
The death of a society is from top to bottom, it is never bottom to top. Until u overhaul the present diseased leaders, the whole society will never be sane because There's incentive for Corruption and I will get away with it.
.
When the foundation is rotten, when the head is diseased, what happens to other part of the body? The problem of a madman is the head not his mouth or leg.
The head of a society determines the path, culture, institutions, and future of that society.
.
Stop blaming the common man. Corruption was enshrined from the top, diffused to everyone, and was never checked or prevented. The common man's reaction to it is a fall out, not the main cause of the problem
Remember the masses is like a sheep that can be lead anywhere.
Remember China changed in less than 20 years of a visionary leadership.

I agree with you 100%. The problem of Nigeria started when we got independence. If we had started with leaders who really wanted the best for the country, leaders who introduced and enforced a very strong justice system, leaders who didn't become leaders just to amass wealth for themselves but rather used the wealth to develop the country, we won't be where we are today. But they did the opposite of everything and taught corruption to the young ones coming up. Now the then young ones saw it as a normal thing and passed the corruption down to the newer generation and that is how it spread everywhere. Corruption is a normal thing within the walls of public service and politics. The only way things can change it from the top because by the time the leaders start showing examples in dealing ruthlessly with corrupt officials and make sure others follow suit, the orientation of Nigerians will change and they will know it no longer business as usual.

Kccheechy:
I agree with you 100%. The problem of Nigeria started when we got independence. If we had started with leaders who really wanted the best for the country, leaders who introduced and enforced a very strong justice system, leaders who didn't become leaders just to amass wealth for themselves but rather used the wealth to develop the country, we won't be where we are today. But they did the opposite of everything and taught corruption to the young ones coming up. Now the then young ones saw it as a normal thing and passed the corruption down to the newer generation and that is how it spread everywhere. Corruption is a normal thing within the walls of public service and politics. The only way things can change it from the top because by the time the leaders start showing examples in dealing ruthlessly with corrupt officials and make sure others follow suit, the orientation of Nigerians will change and they will know it no longer business as usual.

I always wonder how people write Epistles blaming the common man...most people are trying to survive cos the whole economic is based on corruption If u must survive...Only leadership can change that...
One of the mantra I hate to hear in Nigeria is saying change start from me..lol...for real? Which me...change starts from the leaders, and it must trickle down

Stupidquestions:
This is not true. Exactly what the politicians want us to think so that we won't all march on the street and chase them away.
.
There is always potential for corruption and backwardness in all society. But it's the 100% duty of a government to ensure the country has a national culture and value that lead to progress and order. And there's a strategic way every successful country does that
.
At independence, it was the leaders who effected the whole process, They are 100% responsible in the direction our country took, because they are on the driving seat driving it where they wish.
.
To drive a society to a sane, prosperous end, governance comes first before followership. Governance and leadership shows the way the followers should follow...through:

1. Visionary and exemplary leadership

2. Strong justice system that will punish crimes and corruption at all times.

3. Purpose oriented education designed to mould citizens from young to adult about patriotism, dignity of labor, hardwork, accountability and all manners of values and interests of life.
.
4. Solid policy with guaranteed enforcement process.
.
5. Social and economic equity that put the welfare of citizens in front burner.

6. Value for talents, excellence and integrity, while promoting and protecting the dignity of labour
.
7. Strong security system that respect due process and rule of law that the citizen can trust at any given time...
.
Now tell me, is it the common man that will ensure all this parameters are functioning in a society or the institutions of governance? Our politicians failed woefully in that regard. So don't expect the followers to not fail.
.
The death of a society is from top to bottom, it is never bottom to top. Until u overhaul the present diseased leaders, the whole society will never be sane because There's incentive for Corruption and I will get away with it.
.
When the foundation is rotten, when the head is diseased, what happens to other part of the body? The problem of a madman is the head not his mouth or leg.
The head of a society determines the path, culture, institutions, and future of that society.
.
Stop blaming the common man. Corruption was enshrined from the top, diffused to everyone, and was never checked or prevented. The common man's reaction to it is a fall out, not the main cause of the problem
Remember the masses is like a sheep that can be lead anywhere.
Remember China changed in less than 20 years of a visionary leadership.

You're too good.
You understand the functions of a government.

lalasticlala:
Sara N. Omalicha has highlighted other problems of Nigeria apart from politicians.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1414165713640640513.html

Tales by moonlight the politician/leader is number 1 problem in Nigeria because they lead we follows
The followers are just copying what they saw from their leader no country is holy all have their societal ills too but with great leader led with good examples
I believe you are still sucking your mother breast assseee

Semaj77:



She is saying the fact

the only thing I don't agree with is she thinking the only solution is to divide..... why can't everybody stop with the hate already and come together and build our beautiful country!!! this is also a solution!!!

you are right but not fully right. my question is, was it as bad as this, were the majority not abiding to the laws of the land, these all started the moment majority of Nigerians got to know the government has no plan not to even talk of good ones for them. I say and will keep saying, if an average man can meet up with his basic amenities the rate of yahoo boys will reduce by 15% cut not everyone of them wish to be arrested by EFCC and jailed. My answer to such post has always and will always be "THERE IS NO WAY YOU WILL PROGRAM A VIRUS INTO A PC/COMPUTER AND EXPECT A PERFECT WORK". It's not easy, our major problem right now is lack of trust.

NwaEzefuNaMba:
God bless her immensely!

The number one problem of Nigeria today is truth and dishonesty and we all contribute to this.

This is you being honest with yourself and it's the first step in the right direction. Funny woman, what was the she thinking? That we the citizen will admit our part in this mess, when our parent, sons, and daughters are mention. Its always politicians fault, please this politicians don't they belong to a village, have families and relatives clapping for him stealing money meant for poor masses? Its easier for Adam to blame Eve than admit his part in the mess. its human nature. Knowing our criminally kind nature,When corruption is in your favour, you begin to hear divine favour and grace. Live Nigerians abeg, we are in the business of jokes and show men. But as my people would say; When the fire touches the pot the pot will certainly touch what's inside it.

vanvino:
This is you being honest with yourself and it's the first step in the right direction. Funny woman, what was the she thinking? That we the citizen will admit our part in this mess, when our parent, sons, and daughters are mention. Its always politicians fault, please this politicians don't they belong to a village, have families and relatives clapping for him stealing money meant for poor masses? Its easier for Adam to blame Eve than admit his part in the mess. its human nature. Knowing our criminally kind nature,When corruption is in your favour, you begin to hear divine favour and grace. Live Nigerians abeg, we are in the business of jokes and show men. But as my people would say; When the fire touches the pot the pot will certainly touch what's inside it.

Thank you

Amalekki:

Was Ambode born as a politician? Is Fashola's family name Government? The government is the people. The government is a reflection of the aggregate of the people. You see a problem with the government, look at the people as a whole. Nigerians are reaping the collective fruits of individual efforts as a people.

Thank you

The problem of nigeria is a foundational one... A group of white men sat in a room somewhere in Berlin and drew up country maps of nation states without taking into consideration demographic, religious, tribal and ethnic differences.

this one doesnt understand policy and policy guidelines and formulation.

this one doesnt understand strategy.

when a problem becomes wild spray, these problems are not and cant be solved individualy,the leader formulate policy to nip it

Stupidquestions:
This is not true. Exactly what the politicians want us to think so that we won't all march on the street and chase them away.
.
There is always potential for corruption and backwardness in all society. But it's the 100% duty of a government to ensure the country has a national culture and value that lead to progress and order. And there's a strategic way every successful country does that
.
At independence, it was the leaders who effected the whole process, They are 100% responsible in the direction our country took, because they are on the driving seat driving it where they wish.
.
To drive a society to a sane, prosperous end, governance comes first before followership. Governance and leadership shows the way the followers should follow...through:

1. Visionary and exemplary leadership

2. Strong justice system that will punish crimes and corruption at all times.

3. Purpose oriented education designed to mould citizens from young to adult about patriotism, dignity of labor, hardwork, accountability and all manners of values and interests of life.
.
4. Solid policy with guaranteed enforcement process.
.
5. Social and economic equity that put the welfare of citizens in front burner.

6. Value for talents, excellence and integrity, while promoting and protecting the dignity of labour
.
7. Strong security system that respect due process and rule of law that the citizen can trust at any given time...
.
Now tell me, is it the common man that will ensure all this parameters are functioning in a society or the institutions of governance? Our politicians failed woefully in that regard. So don't expect the followers to not fail.
.
The death of a society is from top to bottom, it is never bottom to top. Until u overhaul the present diseased leaders, the whole society will never be sane because there's incentive for Corruption and people get away with it.
.
When the foundation is rotten, when the head is diseased, what happens to other part of the body? The problem of a madman is the head not his mouth or leg...cure his brain and see.

The head of a society determines the path, culture, institutions, and future of that society.
.
Stop blaming the common man. Corruption was enshrined from the top, diffused to everyone, and was never checked or prevented. The common man's reaction to it is a fall out, not the main cause of the problem
The masses is like a flock of sheep that can be led anywhere.
China changed in less than 20 years of a visionary leadership. They had same citizens but a changed leadership. Today they are superpower.

Kai!!! You have spoken my mind, I have always believed that when we have a leader or set of leaders who are committed to changing the unfortunate situation we found ourselves in Nigeria today they will definitely map out the way to true change in the minds and hearts of Nigerians. It will not be magic, but as it has started gradually with the common Nigerian tired of the things that are bedeviling us, soon a group of committed Nigerians mostly purposeful youths will start drafting plausible manifesto, creating new political ideologies that are believable and can sell. And when given the chance they will chart a new course that will lead us out of this wilderness.

Of course it's not going to be easy, it will have to do with easing out the present crop of politicians who are mostly corrupt and will ensure nothing disrupt their corrupt flow of income which mostly come from milking the nation's resources dry.

We will need a crop of politicians in the North that will discourage extreme religious sentiments in the north through conscious orientation in the mosques of how tolerance of other religions is most needed to make the country grow and afterwards benefit the common man.

We'll need a crop of politicians from the South that will discourage the get rich quick syndrome in the minds of their youths, to champion a brother's keeper's mindset amongst the people in the South where the common good of all comes first.

I strongly believe that all the points Omalicha have highlighted can be resolved with a government committed to changing the narrative. We have examples of similar government drives that were yielding results, like the WAI Campaign of the Buhari/Idiagbon military rule which made lots of success reformatting the minds and behaviours of Nigerians. In Cross River State, their keep Calabar and Cross River clean created a mindset of general cleanliness there which got Calabar the tag of the "Cleanest City in Nigeria" for years.

These are programs of leaders that have worked at least for the period those leaders were in position. With democracy gaining deeper roots here with the assurance of non disruption of governance due to coups and the likes, if we got blessed with leaders that can change the narrative it will triple down from top to bottom and everything will fall into place.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I disagree....


All she listed here can be classified as societal ills which is not alien to Nigeria.... go to USA there are gangsterism , we saw violent Trump supporters that invaded the Whitehouse, traffic offenders, go to Spain you can find Catalan people agitating for referendum....

All what she said is correct. Every country has the ability or tendency to be a Nigeria but they have a strong system stopping it. There are check and balances!! This shows majority (or lets say a very high percentage) knows the ills of such display. Those in government are a product of our society. You do not expect a lawless and corrupt society to produce a corrupt free government. Most Nigerians do not hate corruption, they just hate the fact they aren't benefiting from it. Once a Nigerian benefits from the corrupt system, he calls it "been smart", "grace", "luck".

Why do most Nigerians travel out of the country and still engage in all sort of crimes?

Moradeyo95:
the only thing I don't agree with is she thinking the only solution is to divide..... why can't everybody stop with the hate already and come together and build our beautiful country!!! this is also a solution!!!

How do you stop the hate when the president that is supposed to be a rallying point for unity is now the embodiment of disunity and anything antithetical to peaceful coexistencse.

Thank you Lala. Today you have trapped the biggest snake disturbing Nigerians. Some people think that they can build a prosperous nation by blaming every other person buth themselves. Nay It will never happen that way. Nations are built by majority consistently doing right things or a few doing right things forcing themselves over the unguided using whatever means. That's how it's done, from US, Sudi Arabia to China and Singapore.
More ink to your pen.

Meanwhile what happen to my thread, it never see front page?
https://www.nairaland.com/6641931/please-spare-me-northern-domination#103522995

lalasticlala:
Sara N. Omalicha has highlighted other problems of Nigeria apart from politicians.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1414165713640640513.html

Many if not all of those problems where either caused or encouraged by the corrupt politicians and political system.

So if u want to correct them it must start from the top down, leading by example not by mouth.

Arrewa:
Nigeria problem has a historical background!!

Which tribe started tribalism?? Which tribe tried to conquer Nigeria?? Which tribe Annexed Nigeria by introducing unitary system inorder to take full control??

The only reasons Azikiwe orchestrated a coup against the then govt of Tafa Belewa was because the COR region was set to be carved out from the then defunct eastern region. And with the lure of oil money at stake, Azikiwe ordered his thugs in he army to overthrow the govt and from there roll out an Igbo dictatorship under a powerful central govt.

Igbos will deny this but Decree 34 was the deadly blow that killed regionalism, put an end to COR region and gave birth to the exploitative centrist govt.

Have you asked why Ojukwu supported the abolition of regional governance and forced unification under Ironsi's Igbo dictatorship but later began clamouring for a return to regionalism 5mths later in Aburi?

Tell an Igbo man as a Niger Deltan that you agree with Nigeria's dissolution but will rather have a separate nation for the Niger Delta and watch him insult you and say "is Niger Delta a tribe"?

After the successful Igbo coup, Adaka Boro led a revolt to leave Nigeria entirely . Who clamped down on that secessionist movement? The Igbos under Ironsi with Ojukwu commanding the military offensive.
You are not in any way victims of Nigeria but the main arch villains.

70% of igbos allow emotions be cloud them rather than actual facts. Even when the know the truth emotion get the best of them!!

Only the jallos have the intellectual capacity to counter the igbos in Africa...

They also want to be us... They want to dominate too. They want the power too.

They love superiority.... But only the Fulanis are stoping them!!

I used to tell my Dad....That one Nigeria is a logical fallacy, a myth and a folktale.

The only solution is to come together and end Nigeria!!!

If we fail to divide this country now... The HausaFulanis you hate and despise are getting stronger than ever before!!!

The New Generation of Hausa/Fulanis are going to be brutal on the south when we finally find ourselves in the corridor of power!!

Because we are more intelligent, more sophisticated and more smarter than our parents... And not too religious!!

We have no shortage of rugged intelligent souls!!

So it's better for all the igbos to start supporting Nnamdi kanu now...

Cos with the level of this hatred you've displayed...if Nigeria fail to divide!!!

Hmmmm, Da magana.....

You are only ranting and making noise. I have never expected you to be objective on topical issues. It's only Igbo this and Igbo that. The whole of Nigeria is watching the tribal card you are playing thinking you will hold on to power forever. You have to think when spewing this your junk

0dav2:
You people should stop brainwasing us, we know say we get our own, but make politician enforce true and uncompromised anticorruption act.

bros, they say charity begins from home, if your child stole biro from school and you as a father do nothing or say nothing what lesson do you think your child is getting? How about in the next 30, 40, 50years of that child? Is not the day a rat eat the bag of a native doctor that will be its dead. Our politicians reflect us. Look at our elders, village and cancelors. Remind me, who did Akpabio went to bribe in the greek with money in Ghana must go? did he say no? We sow cassava and when that cassava had fully grown we now want yam. Do you think it will easy to pull off that cassava with words? Also do you have yam ready to plant when that cassava is uprooted? Yet you want yam not cassava. Nature abhor vaccum

My views may sound like am supporting our politicians but i'm someone who look at the root of a problem not the fruits, treat the disease not the syntom, you celebrate mediocrity, mediocrity sale... You celebrate BBN, by watching, talking, praising the participant... school Debate, mathematic or cowbell competition do you show same passion and same financial support? In US, Texas Democrat legislators has fled to washington as a protest against bill that will go against black voters. Paying for hotel with their own money, Do you think this character started that day? Rashford brought back school feeding in UK, i mean,You can only give the world what's in you.

People can truly solve their own issues the way they want, but if you come to say that you can help them do it, then fucking do it or else Bleep off.

Hmmm, very deep.you nailed it.thats it.those who have an ear let them hear.