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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 2:55pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by arukwe123(m): 3:00pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21:who is this one feeling important?? ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 3:04pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Who created last season's NL Chelsea Fam FPL? Aren't we doing it again this season? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:04pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Ozil announced he had quit the team because of how he was treated in Germany Could Hoeness not have simply said, I'm glad he was gone as he was shiit? Why did he feel the need to accuse Ozil of 'hiding' behind racism? This is the real question here This exactly the same thing this fool said: Havertz10: 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:13pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter:sterling's issues started after he left liverpool, he was young and loved by all, they weren't happy with the way he left, they have been attacking him ever since and he hasn't lived up to expectations, they will continually take advantage of that to hate on him and call him names, that will never stop, unless he becomes a big enough star to shut down the hate I don't like courtois because he left Chelsea but I wouldn't go to his Instagram page and call him names, some people have that time and energy, you can't defeat them by complaining, you have to prove to them that you are bigger than their words with your actions How many players were constantly booed because of their actions and eventually won over the crowd I don't look at life as black and white, I look at all the shades between both sides That's what blacks can't understand, racism is victim mentality, dave chappelle said it best: sometimes you have to be a lion, to be the lamb you really are 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:22pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Ibime: This one is a different issue. In the wake of that PK shootout, there were several racist videos and floating around, infact I just sent you one on whatsapp. Below is one of the ones that reached me via whatsapp. They may be unverified, but coupled with the fact that these 3 boys actually received torrential racist abuse, many black people would be wound up. You're right that this is a small minority doing it, but during such a tense and emotional national event, nobody really cares for that. The crazy thing about it is that racial abuse on social media such as what happened to Ian Wright for example, is not even worthy of a conviction. So of course, Black people would be understandly wound up at this point, especially if you're active on social media 6 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:28pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Havertz10: You are still trying to make racism a trivial issue and it is annoying. If not for the strong stance football governing bodies made against racism, football would have been an unpopular sports. Would you rather we go back to the time white fans don't celebrate goals scored by black or boo black players... Do you know Emmanuel Eboue has been violently attacked by a fan while trying to take a throw? Do you know how it started?? They were making monkey chants and he borrowed your advice to turn a deaf ear toward it.. A fan got bold enough to attack him with punches. The fight is to squash the idea that you are superior to another due to your skin color cos such belief breeds such ugly violent situation. You, a full born and bred African man is trying to undermine the fight by trivializing racism while attacking Rashford's intentions which should be your secondary concern. We love football because it is a uniting factor which breeds love and respect, not hostility. For when we watch it, we don't care if our fellow fan is black, white, muslim, christian, buddhist etc 17 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 3:34pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:35pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Havertz10: How else can Sterling live up to expectation? Or let me ask what were the expectations for Sterling and how many attacking players have posted better stats than Sterling both for club and country According to transfermarkt post Liverpool Sterling played for City 292times, he has 114 goals and 88 assists Despite not being the key penalty shooter, main dead ball shooter 292 games(including sub appearance) over 200 g+a I will like to know 5 players globally not named Messi and Ronaldo who have posted the same stats or similar in the last 5 seasons. So what exactly is this expectation he has not met? For National team at this Euro 3 goals 2 assists (How many players have better stats) If they insult everyone, Sterling and Saka are the least deserving of insults based on this Euros but you know some fans don't think 16 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by arukwe123(m): 3:38pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21:oya kill yourself I just quoted you 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 3:41pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter:it's probably has to do with the absurd thinking that black people need to do more than the White's to deserve respect for their achievements ![]() raumdeuter:it's probably has to do with the absurd thinking that black people need to do more than the White's to deserve respect for their achievements |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 3:43pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
arukwe123:Nothing to see here..move along |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:46pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Griffon: That should be donjazet |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:46pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
CAPdan21: Even at that, how many white, Asian, Latino are even doing what Sterling is doing? Maybe the right statement should be that Sterling is expected to do what <<0.05% of all pro footballers are doing to get respect |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:51pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Emmynator: Kane scored... It's left for Horjberg to protect their goals and he failed. TOT can not move forward with redundant players like that 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:53pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
swiz123:i'm not denying racism, i'm only saying that every instance isn't purely motivated by racist sentiments There is you are beneath me racism, and there is doing this or saying this can hurt this person and I will use it to annoy this person racism The world has evolved, we are supposed to be tackling institutional racism and subliminal racism today not acting like words are knives and touches, ever head of Tulsa race massacre? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/31/black-wall-street-was-shattered-100-years-ago-how-tulsa-race-massacre-was-covered-up.html That's what real racism looks like Rashford in particular is always converting any criticism he receives online to a racist agenda What's their plan? Let's discuss it They will kick Rashford out of united? Or england? I don't even understand why people are overreacting over insignificant things that don't matter They just want to say hurtful things to him, cause they know that it will hurt him, as for Eboue, did some quick reading and its said that he was a diver and it was mostly opposition fans that attacked him But I will read more about it, my issh is while you might feel good, complaining about Rashford or these minor racist events, you aren't changing anything, companies will always support the cause but that doesn't change anything An undereducated society can never thrive, china was mocked and called names in the past, they were called peasants and all sorts, nobody is laughing about them today You can't fight segregation by fighting insignificant battles, if you really want to look at racism today, let's talk about how world bank and IMF loans are structured to destroy Africa 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 3:59pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
But on the issue of Racism Is it now clear to understand why people like Zaha have boldly refused to take a knee before matches. Can we now say taking a knee is just plain stupid and clearly useless cos obviously Racism is going nowhere. And there's no real consequences for those Racists apart from a stadium ban which means what you get to do as a racist is instead of making racist chants in stadiums you can just do one while having a sip of chilled beer on your couch at home. Don't you think the idea of taking a knee is just a way of calling for pity and sympathy and has a negative psychological impact... (Just like a Vegetarian pushing an agenda for Animals to be preserved kindof feeling) Racism will always exist just like Tribal bigotry will always exist in various parts of this country. To me that Taking a knee thing should be scrapped cos e no get use nd whenever i see it it makes me feel like i'm begging for someone's pity cos am Black. Just thinking aloud tho 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 4:12pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
larride: Ask blueangel44 who thinks league position determines player quality. Did you read the post I quoted? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 4:18pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter:sterling isn't the global superstar that people thought he would be, his stats might he impressive but nobody talks about him with reverend I don't watch city games unless they are playing chelsea or another big team and I can tell you that sterling isn't a player that I panic when he is on the team sheet, there are players that when they aren't playing, you get excited that your chances of winning are higher, sterling isn't one, for city, only aguero and KDB had that effect He hasn't become the world conquering global superstar that we all expected him to become As for saka, I don't know but I will check, arsenal have had so many black players, so many, most of their legends are blacks, if any club in England can be rated as the least racist club, I will give it to arsenal, I doubt he was targeted prior to that final but I will check 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 4:23pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Ibime: True. Man has been on stealth mode for some while. Donjazzy are you there? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 4:24pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Ibime: This is very on point, we really need to start looking at this from statistical point of view, I think some people are under the delusion that racism will someday disappear, and if we are honest, we know it never will. Progress will be determined by reduction in number of people expressing these views, the general thinking seems to be that since it still happens, progress haven't been made and that is not true. like you said 1% population are minority, but if we just say "oh, i have seen people insulting Rashford on twitter today, Britians are racists". We are not looking at the issue objectively. Like Raumdeuter said online anonymity gives some kind of cover to the perpetrators, it's possible for one racist to open multiple accounts and bombard Rashford with these comment, 100 racists doing that will seem like a large population on social media. I hope we can learn to be more objective when this issue comes up, if we keep looking at this from emotional perspective, the issues will merely be aggravated. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 4:33pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
swiz123: Horjberg was easily TOT top 3 performers last season, look at his overall season stats, if you think he failed, then you are merely suffering from intellectual dishonesty. There are many redundant players in TOT, and Horjberg is not one of them. No objective person will take Jorginho over Hojberg, that guy is a complete package, not one trick pony like J5. J5 is good but dont disrespect a better player. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 4:37pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Havertz10: Dambrisa Moyo's book "Dead Aid" covers this point extensively. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 4:42pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
DumaEmpire: I dont understand the logic behind taking the knee till date. The truth is racist people will always exist, what's important is taking away the power to act on this racism by tackling systemic problems that kneeling wont solve. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:45pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 4:47pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
raumdeuter: My bad, this is clearer cos your initial post gave off some kinda vibe like you were endorsing that moronic post that was dropped here earlier. On your question, yeah it is possible. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:49pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
All I see are just different people with different points Havertz10 said that for black players to avoid racial abuses, they need to step up their game. That to me, is extremely stupid. Raumdeuter just showed him the stats of Sterling. Only his response would show you how absurd his thinking is 17 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:51pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Emmynator: How do you tackle racist abuse on social media? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:51pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
iamoyindamola: ![]() ![]() ![]() That was an error, a slip of the fingers ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:52pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:56pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
Havertz10: Who made Sterling be a global star at any point in his career? Which AM/WInger will not be worshipped for having >200 g+a in less than 300 games Who are the other hyped global superstars and how are they faring. Are they also getting the Sterling treatment? 4 Likes |
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