BlueAngel444:
that your half ass evidence

holberg is a better player individually than jorginho, he does all the things jorginho does and even more

You can Investigate the player and see for yourself, he is better than jorginho

"Dortmund's position is very clear on Erling Halland, it reminds me of their stance on Jadon Sancho last summer. Roman has do something crazy, means a bid of around €170 million to make something happen".

"Chelsea has to do something quick if they have to sign Erling Halland because Dortmund will not sell the player in the last week of the window. The timing is very important for this deal".

� Fabrizo Romano - Sky Italia

Havertz10 :Ppost=103771103:
holberg is a better player individually than jorginho, he does all the things jorginho does and even more

You can Investigate the player and see for yourself, he is better than jorginho

The argument is that Jorginho can't spin away from his marker. I'm not crazy to argue who is better between Jorginho and Hojbjerg because the latter overall is the better player because he's not system dependent.

On this day 5 years ago Chelsea signed the incredible N'Golo Kante.

2017: Premier League
2018: F.A Cup
2018: World Cup
2019: Europa League
2021: Champions League

Able to climb tall mountains, swim the oceans, run across deserts, fly in the air with blues wings... N'Golo the legend.

donjazet:

I won last season, no reward

MorataFC:

"Dortmund's position is very clear on Erling Halland, it reminds me of their stance on Jadon Sancho last summer. Roman has do something crazy, means a bid of around €170 million to make something happen".

"Chelsea has to do something quick if they have to sign Erling Halland because Dortmund will not sell the player in the last week of the window. The timing is very important for this deal".

� Fabrizo Romano - Sky Italia

I have thought about this haaland issue too much, I had a dream about it

Mehn i'm tired, comfirmed reports, unconfirmed reports, technical director, sporting director, agent

Worst is sky sports, get one bald indian British guy that discusses these gossips, he will be dragging the words as if it's authentic

We can't win the league without a top 9 and we shouldn't go from winning the champions league to fighting for top 4, we have to evolve we still need another right back, 2 midfielders, a defender and a striker

i'm tired honestly, I wouldn't like any other striker that isnt haaland

Havertz10:
holberg is a better player individually than jorginho, he does all the things jorginho does and even more

You can Investigate the player and see for yourself, he is better than jorginho

Ogbeni may somebody beside you do me a favor and lend you a slap.

What is my business with Holberger?

MorataFC:
On this day 5 years ago Chelsea signed the incredible N'Golo Kante.

2017: Premier League
2018: F.A Cup
2018: World Cup
2019: Europa League
2021: Champions League

Able to climb tall mountains, swim the oceans, run across deserts, fly in the air with blues wings... N'Golo the legend.

This your post just me remind of this life, 4 seasons ago, players like Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann way dey beg go back ATM now, were holding their clubs on ransom to join Barca–claiming they want to win trophies. But in the past 4 seasons na only one league trophy Barca don win, UCL nko, na dream.

This life no rush, look at Kante, look at Mendy. When your time come, your luck go shine.

BlueAngel444:


This your post just me remind of this life, 4 seasons ago, players like Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann way dey beg go back ATM now, were holding their clubs on ransom to join Barca–claiming they want to win trophies. But in the past 4 seasons na only one league trophy Barca don win, UCL nko, na dream.

This life no rush, look at Kante, look at Mendy. When your time come, your luck go shine.

wetin you dey talk?

The percentage of players that have left teams beneath their talents and went on to excel is exponentially greater than those than got themselves involved in bad situations

It's advisable to move when the chance presents itself, most players only get 10 years of top level football

MorataFC:
On this day 5 years ago Chelsea signed the incredible N'Golo Kante.

2017: Premier League
2018: F.A Cup
2018: World Cup
2019: Europa League
2021: Champions League

Able to climb tall mountains, swim the oceans, run across deserts, fly in the air with blues wings... N'Golo the legend.

Omo kante has reached four F.A finals. What a shame we won just one.

pamcode:
Omo kante has reached four F.A finals. What a shame we won just one.

Na Anthony Joshua Taylor do us badt thing for the 2 we lost against Arsenal

MorataFC:

"Dortmund's position is very clear on Erling Halland, it reminds me of their stance on Jadon Sancho last summer. Roman has do something crazy, means a bid of around €170 million to make something happen".

"Chelsea has to do something quick if they have to sign Erling Halland because Dortmund will not sell the player in the last week of the window. The timing is very important for this deal".

� Fabrizo Romano - Sky Italia

I dey see Havertz play that 9 role come September, and that Havertz just need bulk up and adjust to being an EPL centre forward

Havertz10:
I have thought about this haaland issue too much, I had a dream about it

Mehn i'm tired, comfirmed reports, unconfirmed reports, technical director, sporting director, agent

Worst is sky sports, get one bald indian British guy that discusses these gossips, he will be dragging the words as if it's authentic

We can't win the league without a top 9 and we shouldn't go from winning the champions league to fighting for top 4, we have to evolve we still need another right back, 2 midfielders, a defender and a striker

i'm tired honestly, I wouldn't like any other striker that isnt haaland

If we can't get Haaland let's get another striker, na only Haaland dey for market? Dortmund should just go with their wàhálà. Who is Haaland sef 2 years ago?
There are raw talent in these small small leagues only if our scouts use their eagle's eyes but no, na only final product we go dey chase up and down.

Havertz10:
holberg is a better player individually than jorginho, he does all the things jorginho does and even more

You can Investigate the player and see for yourself, he is better than jorginho

You have not observed both keenly ... Horjberg is only faster than Jorginho. He isn't better than him in anything else..

Watch Horjberg keenly from now on

MorataFC:
If we can't get Haaland let's get another striker, na only Haaland dey for market? Dortmund should just go with their wàhálà. Who is Haaland sef 2 years ago?
There are raw talent in these small small leagues only if our scouts use their eagle's eyes but na only final product we go dey chase up and down.

it's not easy to spot talents, the ones that shine too much get the attention of big teams easily and become very choosy

When we manage to nail a promising talent, it's usually rubbish

Traore and kakuta

The problem signing those guys caused, what did we get for the effort?

We need a sister club, that's why redbull are always getting talented players, they own other small clubs in major sporting hubs, even city have a similar system in place now, you can easily loan your players there, they will get first team football, grow around the philosophy of the club and when they are good enough, transfer them to the team, redbull owns 4 teams they all have similar names

afrodoc2:



You guys got a good player. She is uber talented.

Yup. Young player of the season for a reason.

Thank you Olivier The best striker for me personally the year we won that Europa League.

swiz123:


You have not observed both keenly ... Horjberg is only faster than Jorginho. He isn't better than him in anything else..

Watch Horjberg keenly from now on

Pace, strength, height, dribbling, press resistance, adventurous. For everything else, he is close enough. The pace alone is CRUCIAL. Pace is the only difference between many good defenders and bad defenders.

What more does he need to be better? These are the exact same things that make Essien better than Jorginho.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4vV6veLP4

Between Jorginho and Hojbjerg, I personally feel Hojbjerg is the better player, simply because he's more 'all-round' and 'has more tools in the kit'.

Jorginho is the better controller - dictating the tempo of the game. But Hojbjerg has more in his artillery.

Still on still, the slander on Jorginho is a bit harsh at times. I feel he has proven himself to be a top player, especially in the second half of this season.

Ibime:


Pace, strength, height, dribbling, press resistance, adventurous. For everything else, he is close enough. The pace alone is CRUCIAL. Pace is the only difference between many good defenders and bad defenders.

What more does he need to be better? These are the exact same things that make Essien better than Jorginho.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4vV6veLP4

This guy na real thug

Thug with sense

BlueMann:


This guy na real thug

Thug with sense

See many of those tackles he's making high up the pitch on the halfway line, chasing down players ahead of him, Jorginho is incapable of that. In those situations, Jorginho wil be like, over to the defenders cos I can't catch this guy. You can see Hojberg chasing down and catching players like Saint Maximan. If it's Jorginho in those situations, it's insha'Allah, what will be will be.

In addition, many of those where he just steps across the player and uses his body to shade them off do not count as tackle. Everything Jorginho does must be tackle because he doesn't have the pace nor body strength to get there and shield the player with his body

I now understand all those sex remedies adverts on Instagram

This fruit is called fadogia agrestis, it increases testosterone in your body


it's very common in Nigeria

fredoooooo:
Thank you Olivier The best striker for me personally the year we won that Europa League.

too bad the one cup he didn't win was EPL, Saka should learn from his predecessors and join Chelsea

Ibime:


Pace, strength, height, dribbling, press resistance, adventurous. For everything else, he is close enough. The pace alone is CRUCIAL. Pace is the only difference between many good defenders and bad defenders.

What more does he need to be better? These are the exact same things that make Essien better than Jorginho

Nonsense!... If someone is much taller than you, they are likely to be heavier all things being equal. If someone is heavier, they are likely to hold off opposing players more. As for dribbling and being adventurous, we could litter this place with arguements on how you came this conclusion....

If you are good, your abilities will reflect in the overall performance of the team you play for. Horjberg has been parking bus for most of his matches in England.... What has his team achieved? Southampton were battling relegation for most of his time there.... Tottenham suddenly started struggling to make Europa when he came.

Most would think it's just a coincidence; some might just say he has bad luck, but I know better.

The first picture is Horjberg EPL passing stats
The second is Jorginho's

Note that Horjberg has played significantly more games than Jorginho in the EPL..

Now this baba should explain what he means by adventurous

swiz123:


Nonsense!... If someone is much taller than you, they are likely to be heavier all things being equal.

And? Is strength not part of football? No wonder Jorginho jumps into tackle anyhow cos he can't step across and hold a man off. A tackle that can land anywhere even to opposition feet and is less desirable than using strength to control the situation.

I was even surprised to find Jorginho is 5ft 11 inches tall, yet nigga behaves like a 5 ft 4 inch ninny. No single muscle on him. At that height, one should be strong and useful in set pieces but not Jorginho who stands on the goalline when Chelsea is defending corners cos he does not have strength to jump for the ball with opponent who will easily shade him out the way and win the header. Same reason he has no confidence in riding a man on his back and spinning out, which Hojberg does repeatedly every game. Funny how a midget like Kante marks men from corners but Jorginho being a 5ft 11 weakling cannot be trusted to mark.

swiz123:

The first picture is Horjberg EPL passing stats
The second is Jorginho's

Note that Horjberg has played significantly more games than Jorginho in the EPL..

Now this baba should explain what he means by adventurous

Clap for yourself comparing Southampton player passing stats with Chelsea player. Maybe we should go and bring Jorginhos Verona stats

Go and bring last season passing stats let's see.

For adventure, just check how Hojberg dribbles players and advances with the ball here, skills Jorginho can never dream of.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4vV6veLP4

Ibime:


[s]And? Is strength not part of football? No wonder Jorginho jumps into tackle anyhow cos he can't step across and hold a man off. A tackle that can land anywhere even to opposition feet and is less desirable than using strength to control the situation.

I was even surprised to find Jorginho is 5ft 11 inches tall, yet nigga behaves like a 5 ft 4 inch ninny. No single muscle on him. At that height, one should be strong and useful in set pieces but not Jorginho who stands on the goalline when Chelsea is defending corners cos he does not have strength to jump for the ball with opponent who will easily shade him out the way and win the header. Same reason he has no confidence in riding a man on his back and spinning out, which Hojberg does repeatedly every game. Funny how a midget like Kante marks men from corners but Jorginho being a 5ft 11 weakling cannot be trusted to mark.

[/s]


This doesn't explain how Horjberg is more adventurous.... 22 through ball in more than 8k passes... Tell me how a team will improve with such redundant mildfield controller

swiz123:
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This doesn't explain how Horjberg is more adventurous.... 22 through ball in more than 8k passes... Tell me how a team will improve with such redundant mildfield controller

See jokes. Even in the stats you posted, you could not borrow sense and look at the assist table?

Jorginho 3 assists in 3 seasons. Throughball ke.

Did you check the accurate long balls?

Hojberg 2 goals, 4 assist last season. Tell me Jorginho own apart from penalties

Ibime:


Clap for yourself comparing Southampton player passing stats with Chelsea player. Maybe we should go and bring Jorginhos Verona stats

Go and bring last season passing stats let's see.

For adventure, just check how Hojberg dribbles players and advances with the ball here, skills Jorginho can never dream of.

Why do you think I will click on this video? Someone posted a video of Jorginho doing exactly what you told us that he is incapable of doing .. When you saw it, you immediately changed the narrative to those scenarios being isolated cases as what you meant was him doing it repeatedly.... ...

I didn't see Horjberg dribbling and advancing forward in this Euro.... So those clips are obviously Isolated scenes

swiz123:


Why do you think I will click on this video? Someone posted a video of Jorginho doing exactly what you told us that he is incapable of doing .. When you saw it, you immediately changed the narrative to those scenarios being isolated cases as what you meant was him doing it repeatedly.... ...

I didn't see Horjberg dribbling and advancing forward in this Euro.... So those clips are obviously Isolated scenes

No wonder Hojbjerg had 3 assists driving forward in Euros while Jorginho was passing to his defenders.

Jorginho video was only 3 dribbles I saw there - a 7 minute video from 3 years at Chelsea.

Hojberg video is 9 minutes and from 1 year and shows everything Jorginho lacks - pace, strength, dribbling, spinning out from men, driving forward, assists and goals.

All of the below had to say the truth. Anyone with eyes can see it.

BlueMann:
Between Jorginho and Hojbjerg, I personally feel Hojbjerg is the better player, simply because he's more 'all-round' and 'has more tools in the kit'.

Jorginho is the better controller - dictating the tempo of the game. But Hojbjerg has more in his artillery.

Amoto94:
I'm not crazy to argue who is better between Jorginho and Hojbjerg because the latter overall is the better player because he's not system dependent.

Havertz10:
holberg is a better player individually than jorginho, he does all the things jorginho does and even more

You can Investigate the player and see for yourself, he is better than jorginho

Ibime:


See jokes. Even in the stats you posted, you could not borrow sense and look at the assist table?

Jorginho 3 assists in 3 seasons. Throughball ke.

Did you check the accurate long balls?

Hojberg 2 goals, 4 assist last season. Tell me Jorginho own apart from penalties

You could hav borrowed more sense to check big chances created... His relative lack of assist is down to our attackers from Morata to Werner.

Which mumu accurate long ball.... I guess you don't want to know that Horjberg has played 50 EPL games more than Jorginho

Ibime:


No wonder Jorginho had 3 assists driving forward in Euros while Jorginho was passing to his defenders.

Jorginho video was only 3 dribbles I saw there - a 7 minute video from 3 years at Chelsea.

Hojberg video is 9 minutes and from 1 year and shows everything Jorginho lacks - pace, strength, dribbling, spinning out from men, driving forward, assists and goals.

All of the below had to say the truth. Anyone with eyes can see it.

... So it has gotten to finding closure with the opinions of passive football fans.

Give me facts on why Horjberg is better and how his abilities reflect in his teams overall performance.