OkCornel:
Dear Bassreeves, is the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Holy Spirit, how does your ice, liquid, steam analogy hold?

Aren’t you telling us one literal being (water) can choose to be ice sometimes, then liquid sometimes and then steam sometimes hmmm?

Are you trying to say that ice block, isnt distinct from vapour steam or even flowing liquid?
Stop using weak analogies to explain the relationship between God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, when will you learn not to be doing that

BassReeves:
OkCornel you are not one with anyone in terms of the subject matter of this thread. You get it now

But you mentioned earlier there’s nothing that compares with the Oneness of God. Are you disputing Jesus’ words in John 17 v 22?

Should we discard that and turn a blind eye to it?

BassReeves:
Are you trying to say that ice block, isnt distinct from vapour steam or even flowing liquid?
Stop using weak analogies to explain the relationship between God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, when will you learn not to be doing that

I didn’t bring up that analogy, you and Bishopkingsley did

OkCornel:
Before we get to that, are you also one with God as Jesus and your picture below beautifully described in John 14 v 22-26? Yes or No.

What disjointed point are you trying to use John 14 v 22-26 make?

Anyway, I dont see anything said about being one in John 14 v 22-26, but Yes, I am one with not only God, but walso with quite a lot of others in terms of different circumstances, situation, projects, interest, pleasures etc

OkCornel:
I didn’t bring up that analogy, you and Bishopkingsley did

Of course, but it didnt stop you trying to poke holes in something thats apparent you dont fully understand

BassReeves:
What disjointed point are you trying to use John 14 v 22-26 make?

Anyway, I dont see anything said about being one in John 14 v 22-26, but Yes, I am one with not only God, but walso with quite a lot of others in terms of different circumstances, situation, projects, interest, pleasures etc

You are one with God, and that’s what I’ve been pointing to Bishopkingsley all the while.

Unity, not literal numbers…Jeez!

BassReeves:
Of course, but it didnt stop you trying to poke holes in something thats apparent you dont fully understand

And how exactly did I poke holes?

OkCornel:
But you mentioned earlier there’s nothing that compares with the Oneness of God. Are you disputing Jesus’ words in John 17 v 22?

Should we discard that and turn a blind eye to it?

Smh. Go try get an Eureka moment with the breakdown above done on the three words 'Echad, Yachid and/or Yachad'

OkCornel:
And how exactly did I poke holes?

Pfft. KMFT

BassReeves:
What disjointed point are you trying to use John 14 v 22-26 make?

Anyway, I dont see anything said about being one in John 14 v 22-26, but Yes, I am one with not only God, but walso with quite a lot of others in terms of different circumstances, situation, projects, interest, pleasures etc

If the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are in you, you’re also one with them, just as they are within each other, but are not the same person.

That’s Oneness I’ve been crying out loud on since I got on this thread which a certain Bishop blatantly refuses to believe.

BassReeves:
Smh. Go try get an Eureka moment with the breakdown above done on the three words 'Echad, Yachid and/or Yachad'

The eureka moment will come when I see where Yachad (Solitary One) is used in the Hebrew Scriptures in reference to the Oneness of God.

OkCornel:
You are one with God, and that’s what I’ve been pointing to Bishopkingsley all the while.

Unity, not literal numbers…Jeez!

So meaning what. What point were you making with that?
Did anyone dispute with you the unity, harmony, togetherness or oneness in the Godhead or God ni, hmm?

BassReeves:
So meaning what. What point were you making with that?
Did anyone dispute with you the unity, harmony, togetherness or oneness in the Godhead or God ni, hmm?

Step forward Bishopkingsley!

He believes The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the same person, rather than different persons working in unity.

He subscribes more to modalism, the image on the right in the second picture.

OkCornel:
The eureka moment will come when I see where Yachad (Solitary One) is used in the Hebrew Scriptures in reference to the Oneness of God.

Scroll up I already gave you that. Smh. Look at you playing the doubting Thomas card.

OkCornel:
Step forward Bishopkingsley!

Explain yourself, leave Bishopkingsley for now out of it. Give your responses to the two questions asked you

PS: You edited your post. Who are you saying believes all that what you edited your post to there?
You added:
'He believes The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the same person, rather than different persons working in unity.

He subscribes more to modalism, the image on the right in the second picture.'

BassReeves:
Explain yourself, leave Bishopkingsley for now out of it. Give your responses to the two questions asked you

PS: You edited your post. Who are you saying believes all that what you edited your post to there?

Is there any issue you’ve got with what I added to my post?

BassReeves:
Scroll up I already gave you that. Smh. Look at you playing the doubting Thomas card.

You referred me to 1 Chronicles 5 v 24;

24 These were the heads of their families: Epher, Ishi, Eliel, Azriel, Jeremiah, Hodaviah and Jahdiel. They were brave warriors, famous men, and heads of their families.

Please explain what Jahdiel has to do with Yachad and the Oneness of God.

Patiently waiting.

Bassreeves, are you implying Jah and Yachad shares the same root word in Hebrew?

OkCornel:
Bassreeves, are you implying Jah and Yachad shares the same root word in Hebrew?

Smh, carefully and slowly go back to read the breakdown

OkCornel:
You referred me to 1 Chronicles 5 v 24;

24 These were the heads of their families: Epher, Ishi, Eliel, Azriel, Jeremiah, Hodaviah and Jahdiel. They were brave warriors, famous men, and heads of their families.

Please explain what Jahdiel has to do with Yachad and the Oneness of God.

Patiently waiting.

Patiently remain in ignorance then, if you having challenges reading content thoroughly before making knee jerk reaction comments

BassReeves:
Explain yourself, leave Bishopkingsley for now out of it. Give your responses to the two questions asked you

PS: You edited your post. Who are you saying believes all that what you edited your post to there?
You added:
'He believes The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the same person, rather than different persons working in unity.

He subscribes more to modalism, the image on the right in the second picture.'

Bishopkingsley believes in modalism. That’s the issue I’ve gone back and forth with him on.

OkCornel:
Is there any issue you’ve got with what I added to my post?

I find is weird you are unable to say who you are attributing who to in your post. You left the name of who believes in what hanging in the air

OkCornel:
On this thread, Bishopkingsley was caught red handed copying and pasting from other websites without including the references, passing himself off as someone knowledgeable, which clearly proves he’s still lightweight on what he claims to believe.


Bishopkingsley has no idea what trinity is about. He preaches modalism and confuses that for trinity.


Up till today, Bishopkingsley is too scared to get into the Hebrew Scriptures to show one reference where Yachad (Solitary One) was used in reference to the Oneness of God, but has claimed repeatedly it applies. (Personal beliefs with zero scriptural proof). Instead of being honest and humble enough to admit there is nothing as such in the Hebrew Scriptures, he claims the English Bible is sufficient and explains everything, as though the authors of the scriptures wrote it in English.


Now Bishopkingsley has gone on an emotional meltdown to claim I can’t prove three beings whatever, when the simple picture below (image on the left) can be understood by anyone with a sound mind.

The moment someone like Bishopkingsley cannot defend his position, he gets emotional.
I’ve seen this happen many times with others on this forum. I’m not your problem, your refusal to believe the naked truth placed before you is the problem. So deal with it.

Am not emotional
Your lies knows no bound
The time I copy from website I specifically told you I copy it
I told you or the person that his refusal to accept my own words that Jesus is God and man
Made me to copy from better explanation of the website

So I know what I preach
I have the holy spirit in me
He teaches me the correct path

Am happy you don't know what you preach apart from useless diagram you display

The reason I have not explain to you if Jesus is the father is because they are distinct in their work that does not mean both are not God it doesn't mean they are not together one being


Now if you use your lying mouth to say they are three

Why are you afraid to say how they are three different beings who came together to form God

Say it let hear your demonic doctrine
May be that thunder God reserves for lying tongue may descend

Say that nonsense teaching teach me let me hear am waiting

BassReeves:
Patiently remain in ignorance then, if you having challenges reading content thoroughly before making knee jerk reaction comments

Are you implying the Jah in Jahdiel means Yachad in Hebrew? Yes or No.

OkCornel:
Bishopkingsley believes in modalism. That’s the issue I’ve gone back and forth with him on.

You are being mischievous and crafty here, where in Bishopkingsley's post or comment, did he say anything about 'sometimes'.

Bishopkingsley:


Am not emotional
Your lies knows no bound
The time I copy from website I specifically told you I copy it
I told you or the person that his refusal to accept my own words that Jesus is God and man
Made me to copy from better explanation of the website

So I know what I preach
I have the holy spirit in me
He teaches me the correct path

Am happy you don't know what you preach apart from useless diagram you display

The reason I have not explain to you if Jesus is the father is because they are distinct in their work that does not mean both are not God it doesn't mean they are not together one being


Now if you use your lying mouth to say they are three

Why are you afraid to say how they are three different beings who came together to form God

Say it let hear your demonic doctrine
May be that thunder God reserves for lying tongue may descend

Say that nonsense teaching teach me let me hear am waiting

And there he goes again, another emotional outburst from someone who claims to speak in tongues and is expected to exercise self control as a fruit of the spirit

Is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit three persons or one person my modalistic friend

OkCornel:
Are you implying the Jah in Jahdiel means Yachad in Hebrew? Yes or No.

Read properly the earlier post that gave details

BassReeves:
You are being mischievous and crafty here, where in Bishopkingsley's post or comment, did he say anything about 'sometimes'.

Did you miss where he said he believes in the image on the right? Isn’t that too straightforward to see what he believes in?

I put the pictures there clearly for him to make a choice. Feel free and ask him yourself.

BassReeves:
Read properly the earlier post that gave details

I’ve read it, and I’m asking you again. In Hebrew, does Jah mean Yachad? Yes or no.

OkCornel:
Did you miss where he said he believes in the image on the right? Isn’t that too straightforward to see what he believes in?

I put the pictures there clearly for him to make a choice. Feel free and ask him yourself.

You obviously were badgering him and successfully badgered him into saying he believes in the image on the right

OkCornel:
I’ve read it, and I’m asking you again. In Hebrew, does Jah mean Yachad? Yes or no.

Smh. You have quite a lot to learn. I am not getting sucked into any of that, especially if you have challenges reading post with comprehension

BassReeves:
You obviously were badgering him and successfully badgered him into saying he believes in the image on the right

Badgered him? How?

Isn’t he a grown man who can clearly think for himself?

I simply asked a question and he could have chosen one of both or neither.